Easy way to get to lvl 100

[OLD_SCHOOL_PLAYER]

For All Of You That Didnt No....... If You Have Ruby/saphire Idk If Its In Emerald, First You Go And Put Whatever Pokemon In The Day Care, Then You Head Up To The Sandstorm Place, There Is A Small Waterfall That You Cant Go Up With The Acro Bike So U Just Go There And Hold Up (tape The Up Button So It Is Held There) And Keep Your Gameboy On All Night. (i Use The Gamecube Cuz Its Easier)

Well I Thought I Would Let You Guys No.

Daniel

[TrunksBaggins]

one thing though, they may not keep the moves you want them to.

[blazkien2222]

another way to do it is do the record corner with another copy of your games. Teach gardevoir Memento and no other attacks as the low level pokemon gain tons EXP and the gardevoirs should be 100 and it will be all 6 of them. First make one game with a team with gardevoir with memento and no other attack. Then do record corner and battle that persons secret base and WALAH you just gain a ton of EXP right there.

[Cecil64]

It doesn't work well in Emerald due to the match call halting your progress.

[Hawkeye]

Cecil64-Get a Spin Mat, put it somewhere in your Secret base, then use the same idea with Ruby/Saphire except with the spin mat and your match call will not work.

TrunksBaggins-Put the moves you want to keep on the bottom and check every few hours to keep moving them down when your Pokemon learns a new attack.

[Near]

You can always use Heart Scales.

[-Demosthenes-]

The easiest way is to Clone x number of rare candies in emerald and give them to your pokemon you want to raise.

[Hawkeye]

But they would be weaker, or did they fix that down side from Reb/Blue versions?

[-Airknight-]

But they would be weaker, or did they fix that down side from Reb/Blue versions?

EV train them as soon as u hatch/catch them, then rare candy away, i like that raise them in the day car thing with the waterfall lol....

[Shadowphoenix225]

Clone rare candies, ev train
or
Clone rare candies + ev train + secret bases(lv100)
or
Clone rare candies, ev train at secret bases(very, very slow and hard unless you have every secret base with a certain ev givin pokemon-like 6 blisseys with tail whip in one base, 6 Latios with safeguard only in another, etc)

[-Demosthenes-]

But they would be weaker, or did they fix that down side from Reb/Blue versions?

They fixed it. Pokemon now grow the same either way, rare candies or straight up battling.

[Shadowphoenix225]

They fixed it. Pokemon now grow the same either way, rare candies or straight up battling.
Indeed. EVs and IVs are now the sole determinates of stats in terms of growth(along with base stats and level and nature, but whatever)

[-Demosthenes-]

Indeed. EVs and IVs are now the sole determinates of stats in terms of growth(along with base stats and level, but whatever)

Ahem...natures also contribute with a 10% increase or decrease.

[Shadowphoenix225]

Edited, thanks
I was primarily focused on growth of stats, which is affected most by EVs usually, not on final/actual stats.

[-Demosthenes-]

Edited, thanks
I was primarily focused on growth of stats, which is affected most by EVs usually, not on final/actual stats.

Natures contribute almost just as much as Evs do to a growing pokemon. I would also differ with your statement that EVs affect growth the most. If IVs are truly set, like you claim them to be, then wouldn't they be the real contributing factor to pokemon stat growth?

[Shadowphoenix225]

The IVs are set, they simply contribute indirectly via averages. Growth is taking a pokemon and raising it. Everything but EVs are already set for a preexisting pokemon.

[-Demosthenes-]

The IVs are set, they simply contribute indirectly via averages. Growth is taking a pokemon and raising it. Everything but EVs are already set for a preexisting pokemon.

So because they are set, shouldn't they be the main contributors, with EVs altering them slightly?

[Shadowphoenix225]

So because they are set, shouldn't they be the main contributors, with EVs altering them slightly?
252/4 yield the max amount possible through evs for a stat.
252/4 > 31
Therefore, EVs have a greater impact.

Sorry I didn't bring this up earlier.

[-Demosthenes-]

252/4 yield the max amount possible through evs for a stat.
252/4 > 31
Therefore, EVs have a greater impact.

Sorry I didn't bring this up earlier.

Your division doesn't really apply towards IVs or natures, as they raise stats (or lower them) through a different formula than "252/4"

[Shadowphoenix225]

Every four EV points give one stat point boost at the end once EVs have been maxed out. As 255 points are possible in one stat, and because 252 is the largest number less than 255 divisible by four, 252 is the highest amount of evs one gets to raise a stat. 252/4 = 63 stat points.

[-Demosthenes-]

Every four EV points give one stat point boost at the end once EVs have been maxed out. As 255 points are possible in one stat, and because 252 is the largest number less than 255 divisible by four, 252 is the highest amount of evs one gets to raise a stat. 252/4 = 63 stat points.

I understand that. I wasn't talking about EVs. I was saying that IVs and Natures rely on different stat calculators and cannot be compared to EVs with the same formula.

[Shadowphoenix225]

IVs, EVs, natures, etc are all factored into the final stats of a pokemon. This you clearly know. When one looks at the end result of a pokemon's stats, one sees stated ingame numbers. My earlier statement on growth influence was based strictly on the effect of something on a pokemon's final stats. The factors which can alter stats the most are base stats, set in stone, and evs. The base result is the final stat, and because the individual influences of the aggregate aspects are know, thuis knowledge enable stat calculators to exist, which take into account all things.

[-Demosthenes-]

IVs, EVs, natures, etc are all factored into the final stats of a pokemon. This you clearly know. When one looks at the end result of a pokemon's stats, one sees stated ingame numbers. My earlier statement on growth influence was based strictly on the effect of something on a pokemon's final stats. The factors which can alter stats the most are base stats, set in stone, and evs. The base result is the final stat, and because the individual influences of the aggregate aspects are know, thuis knowledge enable stat calculators to exist, which take into account all things.

But what you originally stated was that EVs affect the growth of stats the most, which I would say that IVs do.

IVs are like schools. You get a good school (good IV) you're going to do well regardless of the classes you take (EVs).

IVs are the backbone of growth, and if they are truly "set in stone" then they should be the ultimate determiner of stat growth.

[-Airknight-]

[quote=Hawkeye]Cecil64-Get a Spin Mat, put it somewhere in your Secret base, then use the same idea with Ruby/Saphire except with the spin mat and your match call will not work.
[quote]

how does it not work. i, stupidly, put the waterfall thing to test with emerald, and yes match call ruins everything [ya i havnt played emerald long]. how will using a spin mat halt the match call system? worth a try i suppose.

[Near]

[quote=Hawkeye]Cecil64-Get a Spin Mat, put it somewhere in your Secret base, then use the same idea with Ruby/Saphire except with the spin mat and your match call will not work.
[quote]

how does it not work. i, stupidly, put the waterfall thing to test with emerald, and yes match call ruins everything [ya i havnt played emerald long]. how will using a spin mat halt the match call system? worth a try i suppose.
Maybe they can't call you in your secret base or something.

[-Airknight-]

sounds sweet, will put it to the test tonite. its funny, i learn more about these games from you and demontheses petty arguments than i do from serebii or smogan, haha keep it up. thanks

[Kuiper]

Then you hit level 100, and can't change your IVs. T_T

Seriously though, nature has a huge influence on stats, in the case of something like Zapdos, you get around 33 extra stat points from that special attack raising nature, which is more than the difference that perfect IVs in that stat would make. Blissey is one of the few cases where the nature makes very little difference numerically.


Oh, and by the by, steps taken in your secret base don't count for day care experience. If you've got Emerald, it's probably just more efficient to dupe Rare Candies, anyway.

[-Airknight-]

i dont understand...how do the not count for daycare experiance? they are steps, and any step made should count.

[Hawkeye]

I have yet to receive a call when I used this idea before reseting my Emerald to try to raise a team with out have to resort to the Day Care Glitch.

Additional Comment:
Forgot to read second page, sorry. In my Emerald version it took longer then the Waterfall/Mud Slope would in Ruby/Saphire. Which is why I gave up on after one night and only gaining about 6-7 levels (I don't really remember the exact number)

[-Demosthenes-]

i dont understand...how do the not count for daycare experiance? they are steps, and any step made should count.

I suppose it would fall under the premise that you can't keep theifed items from secret bases.

I guess that besides experience points, what happens in the secret base stays in the secret base.

[zar11]

If i would do this during the day about how many hours would it take?

[-Airknight-]

bout how long it would take as you sleep...7-10 hours...

[Hawkeye]

As said by Airknight000, 7-10 hours. Does any one know where I can go to get a picture or banner in my signature?

[-Airknight-]

tried the spin mat thing for emerald..it works..bit terribly slow...in 8 hours my skarmory went from 16 to 24...so ya....maybe if u went omn a weeks vacation lol.....

[E-hero cyberblaster]

tried the spin mat thing for emerald..it works..bit terribly slow...in 8 hours my skarmory went from 16 to 24...so ya....maybe if u went omn a weeks vacation lol.....

cant you also use the stairs in lilycove department store?

[Hawkeye]

You would just keep moving forward intill you hit the wall, Youd need something that will push you backwards then us the up button to do it again, again, which is the Day Care Glitch.
(That is what I call it, if it has a correct name, please inform me, thank you)

[E-hero cyberblaster]

You would just keep moving forward intill you hit the wall, Youd need something that will push you backwards then us the up button to do it again, again, which is the Day Care Glitch.
(That is what I call it, if it has a correct name, please inform me, thank you)

dont you take steps when you go on a stair?, i mean when you go up on the stair then the same is going down again(first up then down the same place, like the sand weil)

[-Airknight-]

good idea cyberblaster, but the match call would interrupt you, at least in emerald. and theres no point in doing it in ruby/sapphire with the bike watefall thing, whcih is like a step per second.

[E-hero cyberblaster]

good idea cyberblaster, but the match call would interrupt you, at least in emerald. and theres no point in doing it in ruby/sapphire with the bike watefall thing, whcih is like a step per second.

oh, didnt know that they call you when your inside a building(my bad)

[-Demosthenes-]

The daycare method of leveling is really a pain. Spending 8-10 hours to raise your pokemon 15-20 levels is rediculous.

Go through the elite four with pokemon you want to raise equipped with experience share. Estimate 15 minutes per full elite 4 session...on average 4-5 levels per run...is 300 minutes. Translate to hours...five hours to fully level up pokemon. A lot better and more efficient, IMO.

The easiest way, however, is to just clone rarecandies. Say two minutes to clone one candy, 95 levels to gain...190 minutes. Only 3.16 hours. Simple and efficient.

[-Airknight-]

The daycare method of leveling is really a pain. Spending 8-10 hours to raise your pokemon 15-20 levels is rediculous.

Go through the elite four with pokemon you want to raise equipped with experience share. Estimate 15 minutes per full elite 4 session...on average 4-5 levels per run...is 300 minutes. Translate to hours...five hours to fully level up pokemon. A lot better and more efficient, IMO.

The easiest way, however, is to just clone rarecandies. Say two minutes to clone one candy, 95 levels to gain...190 minutes. Only 3.16 hours. Simple and efficient.

great point made, and if u have 2 games/2 gameboys, trade one pokemon into another game and raise it via elite four, cuts the training time in half..in theory

[GamesTesterJan]

I suppose these methods should only be used once the EVs of the pokemon have already been maxed?

I have done the elite four method and also tried the day care + acro bike bug and the day care method is easier. Jan

[-Airknight-]

chyea.

we all know the day care + bike waterfall thing does not work in emerald due to the match call thingamajig.

well, thanks to the genius that is me, i have just discovered a method of daycare training for emerald that is 10 times as fast as the spin mat thing, and almost as fast as the acro bike thing.

wat is it?

sootopolis gym baby. drop on down to the bottom floor and walk up into the ice slide thing. u slikde back down really fast, which makes this effective. i have had this experiment going for the past 4 hours and not one match call interuption.

im pretty sure this is legit. thank me later

=)

[-Demosthenes-]

chyea.

we all know the day care + bike waterfall thing does not work in emerald due to the match call thingamajig.

well, thanks to the genius that is me, i have just discovered a method of daycare training for emerald that is 10 times as fast as the spin mat thing, and almost as fast as the acro bike thing.

wat is it?

sootopolis gym baby. drop on down to the bottom floor and walk up into the ice slide thing. u slikde back down really fast, which makes this effective. i have had this experiment going for the past 4 hours and not one match call interuption.

im pretty sure this is legit. thank me later

=)

Cool idea...I hope it works; but I've had playing sessions where I'll play 7 hrs straight and not have the match call activate, but then turn it off and come back to it later only to have a stupid trainer call me right away.

Maybe the match call doesn't work in gyms? I don't know. I never use the stupid device anyway.

[-Airknight-]

damn lol...for some reason non of my pokemon leveled up. my bad guys, dont try it >>.<<

[E-hero cyberblaster]

damn lol...for some reason non of my pokemon leveled up. my bad guys, dont try it >>.<<

i really think my ''trick'' will work for when your in a building and is trying to call someone inside a building it says ''a call cant be made from here'' so that must mean that they cant call you either right?

[Hawkeye]

E-hero cyberblaster: two things; one, could you explain in more detail how you would do the your trick with out having to do it manually, like the Day Care glitch in Ruby/Saphire? Two when it says "a call cant be made from here" then it also means you can not receive a call either.

[shineyaltaria]

Well I've tried several things too, but still haven't found any way around the darn phone interruptions. Like Sir Fallen Ronin, I never use match call either. When the game first came out I was thinkng that we might use the slippery slope in the safari zone but that didn't work either (bell rings).

Anyway, if you get an idea, try it. Maybe someone will come up with something, against all the odds. Look at how long we were all playing Emerald before the clone glitch was discovered. In the meantime,

Got link cables?

[E-hero cyberblaster]

E-hero cyberblaster: two things; one, could you explain in more detail how you would do the your trick with out having to do it manually, like the Day Care glitch in Ruby/Saphire? Two when it says "a call cant be made from here" then it also means you can not receive a call either.

ok i try. first put a pokemon in the daycare, then go to a building with a stair, then go to the stairs and put something to hold down the up button.
so when you go up the stair then the same place will go down again

[Hawkeye]

So how would you would you do the up:down pattern with out having to do it manually because when I did it the guy kept walking into the wall after going up the stairs.

[E-hero cyberblaster]

So how would you would you do the up:down pattern with out having to do it manually because when I did it the guy kept walking into the wall after going up the stairs.

i forgot 1 thing the building have to be a place with several floors like the lilycove city's big mart.

[shineyaltaria]

So how would you would you do the up:down pattern with out having to do it manually because when I did it the guy kept walking into the wall after going up the stairs.

Good Sir Houndoom Revenge's original trainer tip on how to level up using the bike while your pokemon are in daycare is on page one of the Help Thread. If you're interested, it is at the very end of post#3.

[E-hero cyberblaster]

Good Sir Houndoom Revenge's original trainer tip on how to level up using the bike while your pokemon are in daycare is on page one of the Help Thread. If you're interested, it is at the very end of post#3.

that only works in ruby/sapphire(as you probably already know) mine might be another for emerald

[-Airknight-]

well then test it out, i know wat yur talking about and it might work. i didnt get credit for any steps, idk y, when did the ice thing in the sootopolis gym, but yur thing may be work. i doubt it would be any faster than using the spin mat though

[E-hero cyberblaster]

well then test it out, i know wat yur talking about and it might work. i didnt get credit for any steps, idk y, when did the ice thing in the sootopolis gym, but yur thing may be work. i doubt it would be any faster than using the spin mat though

ok i put a lv25 vileplume in daycare at 10:20(i live in denmark and here it is 10:20 in the morning), and now im waiting. for a couple of hours.
(on pojo i would have started at 2:25)

[Near]

ok i put a lv25 vileplume in daycare at 10:20(i live in denmark and here it is 10:20 in the morning), and now im waiting. for a couple of hours

Additional Comment:
bump
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BORING (on pojo i would have started at 2:25)
Don't BUMP outside the trade forums, it only brings down other threads to bring this one up,
quite selfish.

[E-hero cyberblaster]

Don't BUMP outside the trade forums, it only brings down other threads to bring this one up,
quite selfish.

sorry about that, its been 3 hours and 10 minutes and it only got about 200 exp, so it does work but only for the one on very low level

[Hawkeye]

Would it work if you, or anyone, set up the spin mat in front of the Stand (the thing with the two stairs and a walk way in the middle) and walk down the stairs towards the spin mat, spin off the spin mat and back unto the stairs and repeat? I would try this my self but the Lilycove Dept. Store won't open the shop were you buy the Stand. Also do stairs count as one step or two?

[Bleakdragon55]

wouldn't also work to put two spin mats toghter? then again you wouldn't ever be able to get out, right?

[Hawkeye]

I don't think you'll be able to even enter the second mat by using the first mat because the first mat will spin you back, not unto the second mat.

[E-hero cyberblaster]

Would it work if you, or anyone, set up the spin mat in front of the Stand (the thing with the two stairs and a walk way in the middle) and walk down the stairs towards the spin mat, spin off the spin mat and back unto the stairs and repeat? I would try this my self but the Lilycove Dept. Store won't open the shop were you buy the Stand. Also do stairs count as one step or two?

if i have understood it right you want to put a spin mat inside the big mart, wich you cant. (if thats not what you ment the nplz explain)

[ares9090]

The IVs are set, they simply contribute indirectly via averages. Growth is taking a pokemon and raising it. Everything but EVs are already set for a preexisting pokemon.

That´s not totally true, Pokémon have 3 different numbers

1 is pre-set for every Pokémon and for every status (Base Status is that one).

What is really set for every Pokémon is it´s base status.

While Mew, Celebi and Jirachi have 100 Points fo base status for every status they have (HP, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense and Speed) That means those Pokémons have an Overall Base Status of 600

The Second one is set when you catch a Pokémon and when you receive an egg of a Pokémon, those are called IV´s (Individual Values) there is NO WAY to change this values, and they range from 0 to 31.

This value is what makes Pokémon of the same specie and same level, caught/hatched in the same place, have different status.
You can try to catch several Pokémon of the same specie and level to check their status and keep the one you like more.

The Third and last value can be modified, and it are called EV´s (Effort Values)
Every Status of every Pokémon can reach a Maximum of 255 EV´s, but The Overall EV´s that a Legal Pokémon can have is 510

The EV´s can be raised by giving Vitamins to your Pokés, like Carbos, Calcium etc.

A recently caught/hatched Pokémon can be fed with 10 Vitamins for Status as long they don´t surpasses the 510 EV´s
Each Vitamins gives a total of 10 EV´s.

A trained Pokémon can only be fed Vitamins for their status if they have not 100 EV´s in that status.

In example, if you want to rise Special Attack of Mewtwo, but it already have 40 EV´s in that status, you can only feed 6 Vitamins to rise it´s Special Attack.

In Emerald Version, EV´s can be substracted too, that´s great to undo a bad training, but you need to feed the Pokémon with some berries, I don´t remeber which one for what status.

I hope you get this clear.

[shineyaltaria]

In Emerald Version, EV´s can be substracted too, that´s great to undo a bad training, but you need to feed the Pokémon with some berries, I don´t remeber which one for what status.


There is a list of EV-lowering berries on Page one of the Help Thread in the Emerald section. Meh. I've never used them yet, but it's nice to have just in case.

Got Undo?

[Hawkeye]

if i have understood it right you want to put a spin mat inside the big mart, wich you cant. (if thats not what you ment the nplz explain)
No I mean in side your secret base, their is an item called stand that you can place in your secret base that has two stairs and in between going left and right is a walk way, you place the mat in front of one of the stairs and walk unto the spin mat from the stair and the spin mat will spin you back unto the stairs, which is why I am asking if stairs count as two steps or one and if it you work faster then just the spin mat or stairway ideas.
The shop on top of the Lilycove Dept. Store is still not opening, other wise I would test it. (I just realized that this post is my 100th post:))

[E-hero cyberblaster]

No I mean in side your secret base, their is an item called stand that you can place in your secret base that has two stairs and in between going left and right is a walk way, you place the mat in front of one of the stairs and walk unto the spin mat from the stair and the spin mat will spin you back unto the stairs, which is why I am asking if stairs count as two steps or one and if it you work faster then just the spin mat or stairway ideas.
The shop on top of the Lilycove Dept. Store is still not opening, other wise I would test it. (I just realized that this post is my 100th post:))


oh that way, the stair only counts as 1 step.

Additional Comment:
just commed up with an idea, you know the cleans tag(whatever) that works like a repel if the holder is in the front of your party, if you put that on a pokemon on level 13 or above, and go into the dark cave on dewford,then go to the muddyslide and have the acro bike just like in the ruby/sapphire games

[-Airknight-]

r u sure that would work? the cleanse tag doent block everything i thought?

[Miller]

r u sure that would work? the cleanse tag doent block everything i thought?

It does'nt work.
I tried it out and I kept running into makuhitas

[Vaati]

The daycare method of leveling is really a pain. Spending 8-10 hours to raise your pokemon 15-20 levels is rediculous.

Go through the elite four with pokemon you want to raise equipped with experience share. Estimate 15 minutes per full elite 4 session...on average 4-5 levels per run...is 300 minutes. Translate to hours...five hours to fully level up pokemon. A lot better and more efficient, IMO.

The easiest way, however, is to just clone rarecandies. Say two minutes to clone one candy, 95 levels to gain...190 minutes. Only 3.16 hours. Simple and efficient.

Wouldn't it take less than three hours? The hardest part would be getting 30 Rare Candies, but when you do it like this:

Clone 1, becomes 2.
Clone 2, becomes 4.
Clone 4, becomes 8.
Clone 8, becomes 16.
Clone 16, becomes 32.

You already have more than 30 Rare Candies, and it doesn't take very long at all. Then, just clone the 30 Rare Candies over and over to get 60, 90, 120, 150.

Takes less time than you stated.

[E-hero cyberblaster]

Wouldn't it take less than three hours? The hardest part would be getting 30 Rare Candies, but when you do it like this:

Clone 1, becomes 2.
Clone 2, becomes 4.
Clone 4, becomes 8.
Clone 8, becomes 16.
Clone 16, becomes 32.

You already have more than 30 Rare Candies, and it doesn't take very long at all. Then, just clone the 30 Rare Candies over and over to get 60, 90, 120, 150.

Takes less time than you stated.

you can only clone 5 items at time, but you still get 10 rarecandyes at time so still pretty fast.

[Vaati]

you can only clone 5 items at time, but you still get 10 rarecandyes at time so still pretty fast.

You can clone 420 items at a time. (14 * 30). You only clone 5 if you're cloning Pokemon. ._.

1.Attach as many items as you want to Pokemon in the PC. (TMs, Vitamins, Master Balls, etc)
2.Save.
3.Take the items from the Pokemon and talk to the lady at the fourth desk.
4.When the window with 'PokeDex', 'Badges', etc comes up. Select 'No' and stop talking to her.
5.Turn the game off and then on.
6.You will have the same items in your Bag and in your PC.
7.To repeat, all you have to do is save in front of the box, take the items out, and repeat the process.

[-Airknight-]

u can clone more than one pokemon at a time? ive never heard of this o.O

[Vaati]

You can clone up to five Pokemon at a time. You can clone items without cloning Pokemon though, as I stated in my previous posts.

[infinitejusticex19a]

You can clone 420 items at a time. (14 * 30). You only clone 5 if you're cloning Pokemon. ._.

1.Attach as many items as you want to Pokemon in the PC. (TMs, Vitamins, Master Balls, etc)
2.Save.
3.Take the items from the Pokemon and talk to the lady at the fourth desk.
4.When the window with 'PokeDex', 'Badges', etc comes up. Select 'No' and stop talking to her.
5.Turn the game off and then on.
6.You will have the same items in your Bag and in your PC.
7.To repeat, all you have to do is save in front of the box, take the items out, and repeat the process.

Where do you do this process? And what lady at the fourth desk? I just hope this is not the wrong place to ask this.

[Vaati]

In the Battle Frontier, Battle Tower. You talk to the same person as if you were cloning Pokemon.

[neo daudulas man]

i tired the water gym thing, but it didn't work for me..... maybe i was doing it wrong.

[infinitejusticex19a]

If the cloning works, you can just clone rare candies like Vaati said and get all you pokemon to 100. You can always raise the EVs later with those low level wild pokemon in the grass/cave/water.

[Vaati]

If the cloning works, you can just clone rare candies like Vaati said and get all you pokemon to 100. You can always raise the EVs later with those low level wild pokemon in the grass/cave/water.

Cloning does work. Lots of people do it. There are even videos on youtube.

[infinitejusticex19a]

Yeah, I have just tried it half an hour ago and it works. Thanks!