R/F my team for R/F [Archive]

DES.BLACK.DOOM.BUG

10-05-2006, 12:39 PM

TRAINER: Eski

1: KIPMUD/SWAMPERT
TYPE: WATER/GROUND
QUIRKY
LV: 81
GENDER: MALE
OBTAINED: BEGGINER
ABILITY: TORRENT
ITEM: LEFTOVERS
ATTACKS:
EARTHQUAKE
SECRET POWER
ICE BEAM
SURF
2: HERACROSS/HERACROSS
TYPE: BUG/FIGHTING
NAIVE
LV:73
GENDER: MALE
OBTAINED: HATCHED FROM EGG AT BATTLE FRONTIER
ABILITY: SWARM
ITEM: MACHO BRACE
ATTACKS:
MEGAHORN
BRICK BREAK
HORN ATTACK
ROCK SMASH(NEEDS GET RID OF SOME MOVES FOR EXAMPLE ROCK SMASH)
3: SLIMER!/MUK
TYPE: POISON
NAUGHTY
LV: 83
GENDER: FEMALE
OBTAINED: FIERY PATH,STRONG POKEMON FROM LAST SAVE GOT TRADED
ABILITY:STENCH
ITEM:SCOPE LENS
ATTACKS:
SLUDGEBOMB
FIRE BLAST (SWITCHING FOR FLAMETHROWER IT HAS MORE PP)
THUNDERBOLT
DIG
4: EXTINCTGUY/ARMALDO
TYPE: ROCK/BUG
QUIET
LV: 84
GENDER: MALE
OBTAINED: CLAW FOSSIL,ARMALDO FROM LAST SAVE LIKE MUK
ABILITY: BATTLE ARMOUR
ITEM: HARD STONE
ATTACKS:
ROCK BLAST
ANCHIENTPOWER
IRON TAIL
EARTHQUAKE
5: LATIAS/LATIAS
TYPE: DRAGON/PSYCHIC
QUIRKY
LV: 40(JUST CAUGHT NEEDS TRAINING ALOT)
GENDER: FEMALE
OBTAINED: MASTERBALL ON ROUTE 118
ABILITY: LEVITATE
ITEM: NONE YET
ATTACKS:
MIST BALL
PSYCHIC
WATER SPORT
REFRESH
6: DONT KNOW MAYBE A SHUCKLE HEARD THERE GD DEFENCE WISE OR A SALAMENCE.

YES I KNOW I HAVE AN ODD TEAM BUT THERE NOT TYPICAL TEAMS WITH GROUDON,KYOGRE,BLAZIKEN,ECT.
about time i stopped typing in capitals anyway any help apreciated or any rare/shiny pokemon u have storys about i like learning about them so say anything about them as long as its not offencive
so help wanted...

E-hero cyberblaster

10-06-2006, 12:30 AM

cant you put some space betwen your pokes, i hardly can see what there stand,
but i try
swampert is okay.

heracross
-rock smash
-horn attack
+sword dance
+rockslide

muk
-thunderbolt
-dig
+substitute
+focus punch
dont have anymore time so this will do it for now.

Near

10-06-2006, 05:22 AM

Swampert Male@Leftovers
Quirky

Earthquake
Secret Power
Surf
Ice Beam

Heracross Male@ Macho Brace
Naive

Megahorn
Brick Break
Horn Attack
Rock Smash

Muk Female@Scope Lens
Naughty

Sludgebomb
Fire Blast
Thunderbolt
Dig

Armaldo Male@Hard Stone
Quiet

Rock Blast
Ancient Power
Iron Tail
Earthquake

Latias@Nothing

Mist Ball
Psychic
Water Sport
Refresh

I just saved your team by typing it normally, cutting all the useless parts [nobody cares about where you found it..]
Remove your first post and put this instead.
Anyways, this needs some help, but I'll help only with Latias this time.

Latias@Leftovers/whatever
Dragon Claw
Psychic
Clam Mind/ThunderBolt/Ice Beam
Recover

E-hero cyberblaster

10-06-2006, 08:32 AM

im back.

EXTINCTGUY/ARMALDO (HARD STONE)
QUIET LV: 84 (M)
think its look okay (never used it myself)

LATIAS
QUIRKY LV: 40 (F)
you already got good help with it

salamence
dragon dance (breed)
dragon claw (clone it)
icebeam/thunderbolt/brick break/rockslide
earthquake/flamethrower/rock slide

remember (M) = male (F) = female, and put some space betwen your pokes. or just do as breakers did.

Near

10-06-2006, 09:34 AM

Since Salamence's attack is quite superior to his Sp [both are very good, though] I would go with
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Hidden Power Flying [Almost Impossible. Just replace with a Physical Attack if you can't]

Even though Dragon Claw is special, it still got a STAB bonus making it 120 power and with a superb accuracy.

I recommend Aerial Ace instead of Rock Slide/Brick Break, due to stab making it 90 power, stronger than the other two
and with that special Accuracy.

DES.BLACK.DOOM.BUG

10-06-2006, 10:06 AM

Near

10-06-2006, 11:13 AM

kk ty il remember to leave all pointless stuff out next time ty althought y teach latias such pointless moves like calm mind when i could teach it thunder bolt and i am not goin to teach muk focus punch it all depends on luck or a substitute other than that ty i will probaly make my sixth pokemon salamence.
Useless? Only noobs think stats raising moves are useless.
I'm sorry but you must be a total newb/noob for considering a great move like Calm Mind "Useless".

E-hero cyberblaster

10-06-2006, 11:19 AM

kk ty il remember to leave all pointless stuff out next time ty althought y teach latias such pointless moves like calm mind when i could teach it thunder bolt and i am not goin to teach muk focus punch it all depends on luck or a substitute other than that ty i will probaly make my sixth pokemon salamence.

like breakes said ''useless'' calm mind is one of the best non attacking move in the game, lets say you use it 2-4 times then use a special attack, almost everytime you will kill the oppent in 1 hit.

and muk is a good foucs puncher(not the best but still) he have a lot hp(according to smogon) then use sub/focus, that will kill most foes.

DES.BLACK.DOOM.BUG

10-07-2006, 04:35 AM

i just dont see the point when i can teach it dragon claw and my muk cant learn sub besides sludge bomb almost kills anything

E-hero cyberblaster

10-07-2006, 04:43 AM

i just dont see the point when i can teach it dragon claw and my muk cant learn sub besides sludge bomb almost kills anything

then serebii and smogon is lying (they dont)
check these
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/089.shtml

http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/muk

Additional Comment:
Since Salamence's attack is quite superior to his Sp [both are very good, though] I would go with
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Hidden Power Flying [Almost Impossible. Just replace with a Physical Attack if you can't]

Even though Dragon Claw is special, it still got a STAB bonus making it 120 power and with a superb accuracy.

I recommend Aerial Ace instead of Rock Slide/Brick Break, due to stab making it 90 power, stronger than the other two
and with that special Accuracy.

breaker youre right with the aa thing, but i didnt think he would use it, since after what i can see he goes for power, but aa is better here(youre right)

DES.BLACK.DOOM.BUG

10-07-2006, 04:51 AM

is AA arieal ace?

E-hero cyberblaster

10-07-2006, 04:53 AM

is AA arieal ace?

yes it is :D

DES.BLACK.DOOM.BUG

10-07-2006, 04:54 AM

u people know wot ur on about so who should i teach areial ace to? i still got the tm

E-hero cyberblaster

10-07-2006, 04:55 AM

u people know wot ur on about so who should i teach areial ace to? i still got the tm

salamence or latias, (teach it to salamence)

by the way did you look at the links i typed

DES.BLACK.DOOM.BUG

10-07-2006, 04:57 AM

y do epople keep sayin salamence i dont use it that 1 is very weak
i ill prob teach it to latias

E-hero cyberblaster

10-07-2006, 04:58 AM

y do epople keep sayin salamence i dont use it that 1 is very weak
i ill prob teach it to latias

cause you said in your post that you would raise one and he have good special def and atk

DES.BLACK.DOOM.BUG

10-07-2006, 05:02 AM

E-hero cyberblaster

10-07-2006, 05:05 AM

oh yeah
my salamences def fell by about 30 when it evolved from a shelgon
and im tryin to make a team that not all people use which mean no groundon kyogre blazekin could u tell me wots so gd about blaziken.

his atk and special atk is pretty good
http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/blaziken <<< look

DES.BLACK.DOOM.BUG

10-07-2006, 05:11 AM

kk but lots of people say it looks cool its a bif retarded chicken with jeans just like the flaming monkey from daimond and pearl
no i dont hate fire pokemon there just overetaed and udnerpowerd

E-hero cyberblaster

10-07-2006, 05:17 AM

kk but lots of people say it looks cool its a bif retarded chicken with jeans just like the flaming monkey from daimond and pearl
no i dont hate fire pokemon there just overetaed and udnerpowerd

then you just shouldnt use them.
(im working on a fun team if you want to see it then say so)

DES.BLACK.DOOM.BUG

10-07-2006, 05:19 AM

yeah i would like to see and when i finish my fun team il send u a link on this page

E-hero cyberblaster

10-07-2006, 05:20 AM

yeah i would like to see and when i finish my fun team il send u a link on this page

i send you a pm
(since i dont think youre allowed to post your team on another ones thread)

infinitejusticex19a

10-07-2006, 05:32 AM

kk but lots of people say it looks cool its a bif retarded chicken with jeans just like the flaming monkey from daimond and pearl
no i dont hate fire pokemon there just overetaed and udnerpowerd
Fire Pokemon are great. With high attack power and high or average speed, they make the ultimate sweepers!

E-hero cyberblaster

10-07-2006, 05:45 AM

yeah i would like to see and when i finish my fun team il send u a link on this page

already sended you a pm so, what do you think about my team?

Near

10-07-2006, 07:49 AM

Latias:
HP: 364
Attack: 259
Defense: 279
S.Attack: 319
S.Defense: 359
Speed: 319

Salamence:
HP: 394
Attack: 369
Defense: 259
Speed: 299
Special Attack: 319
Special Defense: 259

In HP Salamence beats her, in attack too, in Speed he loses, in defenses he also lose, and in Sp.Attack they are the same.

Calling someone with 135 base attack 'weak' is plaing stupid.

Don't teach Latias Aerial Ace because she doesn't get a STAB from it, it's a waste of space, and she has a low Attack.

Salamence, however, has a superb attack, gets a STAB, and doesn't have many moves to put in instead.

-Demosthenes-

10-07-2006, 11:22 AM

Latias:
HP: 364
Attack: 259
Defense: 279
S.Attack: 319
S.Defense: 359
Speed: 319

Salamence:
HP: 394
Attack: 369
Defense: 259
Speed: 299
Special Attack: 319
Special Defense: 259

Calling someone with 135 base attack 'weak' is plaing stupid.

Look at Salamence's def and Sp. def. They aren't great. Plus, if you have a nature that doesn't help def or even lowers it, Salamence is pretty weak. (Defensive-wise, which is what I think DesBlackDoomBug is saying)

However, Breakers is absolutely right. Only noobs would teach a physical move to a pokemon that is so obviously a special oriented attacker.
AA belongs to the physical sweepers.
Calm Mind belongs to the special sweepers.

DES.BLACK.DOOM.BUG

10-07-2006, 06:38 PM

yes that is wot i mean when my latias was still in its late 40s it killed drakes salamence in 1 ice beam

infinitejusticex19a

10-16-2006, 09:43 PM

I think that a real sweeper should have extremely low Defense and Special Defense but high Attack/Special Attack and really high Speed. That way, even though it's defenses are bad, your opponent can't even lay any damage on you while you are busy OHKOing his Pokemon. Of course, the only flaw in this Pokemon would be Focus Band or Quick Attack/Extremespeed.

Near

10-16-2006, 10:23 PM