hm....i wonder

[josephson89]

i wonder what happened to Rin after chapter 239-244 ( i think) ...
does anybody know what happened to her? or not has been shown after that...?

[LostSeraph]

Honestly, I have no idea. They don't show anything of Rin after Kakashi Gaiden. Although, based on what Kakashi says in chapter 1 (can't remember the exact words), she's probably dead.

[Green Koolaid]

Rin is 99% dead, 1% you never know what can happen.

[josephson89]

then again i wonder how she died....

[torchamp]

then again i wonder how she died....

some people say she's the blue haired person in the akatsuki photo, despite the fact that she doesn't have blue hair nd that we've never seen her have any motivation to become a criminal

[orange peel]

A lot of theories revolve around Akatsuki members being people we've seen previously in Naruto. Usually, they were good in Naruto and people don't believe them to have turned "evil" when they joined Akatsuki. But in my opinion, I don't think Akatsuki evil but just people who want the Bijus. They are onlylooked upon as evil as they have done many ruthless things and look evil for that part. But that's just because people were in their way and the Biju. And the first real introduction we got was when Itachi killed off the Uchiha clan but due to the Suzaku theory, that might have been cause he thought the clan evil, which it was if the theory is correct. And another major factor is that their hair color, accesories, or something else might contradict or hurt their theory.

[`Phenom]

A lot of theories revolve around Akatsuki members being people we've seen previously in Naruto. Usually, they were good in Naruto and people don't believe them to have turned "evil" when they joined Akatsuki. But in my opinion, I don't think Akatsuki evil but just people who want the Bijus. They are onlylooked upon as evil as they have done many ruthless things and look evil for that part. But that's just because people were in their way and the Biju. And the first real introduction we got was when Itachi killed off the Uchiha clan but due to the Suzaku theory, that might have been cause he thought the clan evil, which it was if the theory is correct. And another major factor is that their hair color, accesories, or something else might contradict or hurt their theory.
Every Akatsuki member is a S-Class criminal. Regardless of what their end goal is, they are villains and murderers. Of course they killed people in their way, for their own selfish goals.

[josephson89]

hm...this thread isnt about Akatsuki ----- brb


i guess these questions r really unknown like kakashi's face etc

[orange peel]

hm...this thread isnt about Akatsuki ----- brb


i guess these questions r really unknown like kakashi's face etc

Why do you put BRB each time we go off topic? Doesn't it mean Be Right Back?

And Akatsuki is less of a mystery than Kakashi's face mainly because Kakashi's face is a two-way road. We haven't seen it. Or We've seen it and it isn't a mystery now. A face is different from a whole organization...in a way. We really haven't seen the leader's face.

But yeah, both really are a mystery.

[josephson89]

i use brb for no reason i think.....eh idk y uses it too just my habbit i guess

ahhh i really want to know

[orange peel]

Want to know what? What's behind Kakashi's mask? Another mask.

Or everything about Akatsuki? that's a lot ofmysteries. So many it'll shock you if half of the theories out there are correct.

[josephson89]

i want to know about Rin of course ( if thats what u mean)

[orange peel]

Well, we don't really know. She Died. She Joined Akatsuki. Or She Somehow Survived and is a Hermit.

Additional Comment:
Wait. When did Rin die? She lived, I think.

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/vol27.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=13542

[ZanarkandAce]

But don't forget, Rin was one of Kakashi's best friends. And when Kakashi was looking at the memorial, he said that it contained the names of his best friends... And that when he was talking to emo... I mean, Sasuke, he said that all of the people dear to him are dead. So I think it's safe to assume that Rin is dead. But then again, you never know...

[orange peel]

He said "Some of my best friends are on that memorial" and "No need, everyone close to me is already dead." I think Rin died on a mission later on, I guess. Just not in Gaiden.

[Green Koolaid]

I think there is a bigger reason behind the whole kakashi gaiden arc.

Obito is tobi T(1) O(2) B(3) I(4)
23412(OBITO) Kakashi will fight him, is it only obvious to me?
And rin will return, whether in person or in spirit(memory).

[orange peel]

I never thought of it that way...

I just thought Gaiden was just an interesting Flashback that we'd enjoy, but perhaps it is a way to relate to future Akatsuki members or something?

[torchamp]

He said "Some of my best friends are on that memorial" and "No need, everyone close to me is already dead." I think Rin died on a mission later on, I guess. Just not in Gaiden.

when he told sasuke to stop going after itachi sasuke replied that he doesn't know how he feelsa ad that kakashi would do the same thing if he killed someone important to him. Kakashi replies to go ahead and do that because "all those important to me are already dead". this is the chapter either right before or the chapter where sasuke is confronted by the sound 4, can't remember exactly

[orange peel]

Its right before. Kakashi strings up Sasuke and forces him to talk while Sound 4 watch from far away. Then, Sasuke disregards Kakashi, is confronted by Sakura, disregards Sakura, and meets up with Sound Four because he has Suzaku in him and is planning on overriding Orochimaru's Immortality Jutsu.

[ZanarkandAce]

...because he has Suzauku in him and is planning on overriding Orochimaru's Immortality Jutsu.

Remember, duder. That's just a Theroy. Nothing has been proven yet on that.

[ULra]

There are 2-4 possiblilities. Because Kakashi said that everyone he cared about has died, this is possible:

1. She's dead
2. He lost touch with her, and she is still alive
3. he didn't care about her, and she's alive.
4. Some unexplained reason

I might be off, I don't read the manga.

[orange peel]

There are 2-4 possiblilities. Because Kakashi said that everyone he cared about has died, this is possible:

1. She's dead
2. He lost touch with her, and she is still alive
3. he didn't care about her, and she's alive.
4. Some unexplained reason

I might be off, I don't read the manga.

No, that's just about it. But I don't think he lost feelings for Rin. Perhaps she died...and is back in Akatsuki with Obito? There really has to be more to Gaiden than just showing us a bit about Kakashi's team.

Remember, duder. That's just a Theroy. Nothing has been proven yet on that.

I'm tending to announce theories as statements just to see if anyone catches them.

[torchamp]

No, that's just about it. But I don't think he lost feelings for Rin. Perhaps she died...and is back in Akatsuki with Obito? There really has to be more to Gaiden than just showing us a bit about Kakashi's team.



I'm tending to announce theories as statements just to see if anyone catches them.

the obito=tobi thing is also just theory

[ZanarkandAce]

No, that's just about it. But I don't think he lost feelings for Rin. Perhaps she died...and is back in Akatsuki with Obito? There really has to be more to Gaiden than just showing us a bit about Kakashi's team.


I think that, if it wasn't to show about Kakashi's team, that it was meant to show how Kakashi got his Sharingan.

[gtw1983]

It would be an interesting twist if obito or Rin were in Akatsuki,but I realley don't think that it will ever happen.

First of all if they were both S-rank criminals they would more than likely both be stronger than Kakashi or at least on the same level

It was never stated but I got the impression in Kakashi Gaiden that Kakashi was the strongest member of the team so Unless they both improved Tremendously I don't see how it could be them.

I'll post more if I can come up with anything else.

[orange peel]

the obito=tobi thing is also just theory

I said this right afterwards...
I'm tending to announce theories as statements just to see if anyone catches them.


It would be an interesting twist if obito or Rin were in Akatsuki,but I realley don't think that it will ever happen.

First of all if they were both S-rank criminals they would more than likely both be stronger than Kakashi or at least on the same level

It was never stated but I got the impression in Kakashi Gaiden that Kakashi was the strongest member of the team so Unless they both improved Tremendously I don't see how it could be them.

I'll post more if I can come up with anything else.

They wouldn't be able to join Akatsuki fi they weren't that strong in the first place. Or, assuming Rin died a sad death too, survive their deaths and come back, for that matter.

BTW, when Kakashi said all his best friends were dead, that was BEFORE Gaiden so Kishimoto might not have thought of that.

[Darth Payne]

I'm pretty sure that good authors don't come up with things major as that as they go.

[MagnabladerX4]

Rin probably died in a very peaceful fashion..u know, the kind that isn't "retcon-mobile".

[orange peel]

I'm pretty sure that good authors don't come up with things major as that as they go.

That's why I put this...

BTW, when Kakashi said all his best friends were dead, that was BEFORE Gaiden, so Kishimoto might not have thought of that.


MagnaBlader: Can't be sure.

[MagnabladerX4]

Yeah, i found the flaw in my statement right after i posted it, I was just too lazy to edit, lol.

True, kakashi stated that all of his friends were dead in what ? vol.2 ? So his statement is indeed retcon-mobile. My apologies.

[Exiled]

I'm willing to bet a chip that Rin is alive for 2 reasons

1. Rin was alive at the end of Kakashi Gaiden
2. He normally visits Obito's Grave

That's my assumption. There are prolly empty holes here and there

[Snapper]

2. He normally visits Obito's Grave
It's not a grave; it's a memorial for ninja that have died in battle.

[Akatsuki]

Maybe Kakashi killed Rin to get the Mengekyou? Since, Obito has died, maybe Kakashi killed Rin to get it? But it's just me, I'm going to far with Kakashi's Mengekyou.

[torchamp]

Maybe Kakashi killed Rin to get the Mengekyou? Since, Obito has died, maybe Kakashi killed Rin to get it? But it's just me, I'm going to far with Kakashi's Mengekyou.

No way would kakashi do that.

[gtw1983]

in one of the above statements a very good point was made about dead ninja being remembered by visiting the memorial.

But my question is .... what do they do with a ninja's body when he dies?

It was said during the Haku,Zabuza arc that some ninja corpses are disposed of effieciently by a squad of special ninja by means of dismemberment and feeding the remains to animals.

But I got this impression that this method was only used on dead members of a clan whom possess a bloodline limit.

Apparently Both Haku and Zabuza were buried by kakashi since we see a scene at thier gravesite at the end of the arc.

So why do Konaha shinobi's visit the memorial instead of a grave?

It's also plausible that some shinobi's bodies are never recovered which could be a good reason for the memorial.

One such example would be Obito whose body was buried under tons of rock when he died.

It's never said whether his body was later brought back to konaha.

But I would especially love to know where all of the hokages have been buried!!!

[Hemostrat]

... *sigh*

Rin is dead. Kakashi said in start of the Rescue Sasuke arc "Everyone close to me is dead". Kishi did not make that up on the top of his head, then decide to make Kakashi Gaiden. Kishi is not stupid. Kakashi mentions Obito on a couple of occations before KG therefore Kishi had already thought of him.

The KG was ment to show one thing, and one thing only *that we know right now*: To show how Kakashi had recieved his Sharingan. Simple as that. I do believe in the theory of Obito = Tobi, but that is yet to be solved.

The only way we'll ever see Rin in a present day battle is if she is the last Akatsuki member besides the Leader, and I highly doubt that. If Rin IS that person, then there would be no point for Obito to be Tobi. Also, Rin didn't get nearly as much, actually I don't think she really got any, characterization as Obito did during the Kakashi Gaiden. It is much more likely that Obito will be coming back as Tobi, than Rin being thrown into the present day story as the second to last member of Akatasuki.

I don't know if anyone stated it, but many people do when this kind of topic comes up: The girl that was at the memorial grave site during Sandaime's funeral is not Rin. She was no there to see Obito or Kakashi, she was there for Hayate who died earlier from the Sand ninja.

[orange peel]

OK. I've read all your posts and I have something to say.

I just won't bother quoting everyone. If I mention some topic you were talking about, chances are I'm talking to you at that point.

First of all, Kakashi would never kill Rin. I don't want to go into detail but does he seem like the guy to do that? Only someone as sick as Itachi would do that. And if you go by the Suzaku theory, he did it because his best friend wanted it to be done.

And ALL ninja are disposed of and burned out ON THE SPOT. Or at least in the Mist village area. Any powerful or adeuquate ninja, if left to rot on the ground, can "be used as a powerful tool for an enemy country" which is true. Powerful Jutsus that were only mastered by a ninja can be mastered by enemies by just observing the dead body among other things. The Hokages all seemed to have survived for some reason. Which brings me to the point that I think a reason why the third coffin never opened was because the Third desperately stopped it because he could never face the Fourth "Yellow Flash", strongest of the Hokages, and survive.

And we NEVER see Obito die. Kakashi and Rin hightail it way before Obito is supposedly crushed under rocks with a rock Jutsu.

[Hemostrat]

"A ninja's body has within it secrets of the village's nin-jutsu, information on different Chakra types, herbs, and other things that will reveeal things about the village. For example, if I died, the secrets of the sharingan could be reavealed. If you don't be careful there's the danger that the enemy will steal your jutsu. A ninja's body can reveal important information. So, by killing and dispoing of the Missing-nins who have abandoned their village, the Hunter-nins protect the information from getting out. They are the specialist who guard their village" Chapter 16 page 10-11

I think they only dispose of missing ninja's bodies, or people with kekkai genkais. Which doesn't make sense... because how did Orochimaru get Shodai's genes for Yamato then? o.o

[Akatsuki]

"A ninja's body has within it secrets of the village's nin-jutsu, information on different Chakra types, herbs, and other things that will reveeal things about the village. For example, if I died, the secrets of the sharingan could be reavealed. If you don't be careful there's the danger that the enemy will steal your jutsu. A ninja's body can reveal important information. So, by killing and dispoing of the Missing-nins who have abandoned their village, the Hunter-nins protect the information from getting out. They are the specialist who guard their village" Chapter 16 page 10-11

I think they only dispose of missing ninja's bodies, or people with kekkai genkais. Which doesn't make sense... because how did Orochimaru get Shodai's genes for Yamato then? o.o He musta have had the bodies, because he had them when he did the Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei (Summoning Technique: Impure Resurrection), so he probably took a chunk out of the first before he did the revival.

[orange peel]

Exactly. I still'd like to see more of Yellow Flash. The only time we've seen a good deal of him is in Kakashi Gaiden. Which still wasn't much. Which perhaps forshadows....him being the Akatsuki Leader!

[ULra]

No way would kakashi do that.Cause he's a greedy swine!<-(joking right there) I doubt he'd do something like that, just to get one more jutsu under his belt.

[Darth Payne]

"A ninja's body has within it secrets of the village's nin-jutsu, information on different Chakra types, herbs, and other things that will reveeal things about the village. For example, if I died, the secrets of the sharingan could be reavealed. If you don't be careful there's the danger that the enemy will steal your jutsu. A ninja's body can reveal important information. So, by killing and dispoing of the Missing-nins who have abandoned their village, the Hunter-nins protect the information from getting out. They are the specialist who guard their village" Chapter 16 page 10-11

I think they only dispose of missing ninja's bodies, or people with kekkai genkais. Which doesn't make sense... because how did Orochimaru get Shodai's genes for Yamato then? o.o
Shodai's traits are not Kekkei Genkai.

[Snapper]

Shodai's traits are not Kekkei Genkai.
Yes they are. See chapter 316.