My Theory On Akatsuki

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!!

After hearing from my friends who told me the 4th Hokage chould be Naruto's father AND the leader of akatsuki........

So i started thinking................

My theory of the akatsuki members goes like this:

The 4th is the leader:

Reason One: when Orochimaru fought the thrid, he calls out three coffins containing the 1st, 2nd and the 4th Hokage. the 1st and 2nd was opened, but the 4th was stopped by the thrid, why? maybe because the coffin doesnt have anything inside? maybe if Orochimaru opened it and found out the 4th was not dead, the writer can't continue the story?

Reason two: The hair of the leader matches the 4th's hair except the colour is a little bit darker. (this isnt much of a reason)

Reason three: on this picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/Akatsukispread.jpg the leader's face was not showen. maybe its because its a guy that ppl know from the story or else there isnt really anything to hide when all of the others guys are shown.(except one but that i will cover later)

Reason four: if the 4th is really a dead guy and we'll never see him again in the anime/manga, why is his identity a mystery. Why wont the writer just tell us about him? his dead already so nothing is there to hide. Why wasnt his name even mentioned? why was that even a mystery? Maybe because he will come back to the anime/manga? maybe hes still alive? maybe his name holds a great secret?

so that made me think the 4th is actually the leader of akatusuki......

Now to the female character on the picture. My guess is that she is Rin. why was shes face not shown? the same reason as the the 4th, we've seen her before. or else there wouldnt be a point on hiding her face.

Last but not least, Tobi, the orange masked guy. I think he is Uchiha Obito because of the name............Tobi....Obito. not only that, but theres only one eye hole in tobi's mask, like Obito who offered his eye to kakashi. I know ppl will say, "but Obito is dead" well its a anime, anything could happen. maybe he was saved by Zetsu becuase tobi was formerly Zetsu's subordinate until he became a actual member.

This is only my theory, so i dont have any reliable proof to back me up. Plz do not flame this.

[meb9000]

I'd have to cast severe doubt on this theory. It comes from basic speculation from scattered evidence, it is all just a conjecture with no solid proof. Firstly, the 4th Hokage DIED when he used the Demonic Sealing jutsu on the Kyubi. It was even shown directly that whoever uses that jutsu dies automatically. Therefore, it is not plausible to say that he is Akatsuki's leader. As for the Third not allowing the (presumeably) 4th's coffin be resurrected, the main explanation for that probably comes down to two factors. One, the 4th was considered to be one of Konoha's genius ninjas as well as an extremely powerful Hokage (Rasengan anyone?). In addition, Sarutobi probably did not want to go through the emotional trauma that would occur in having to fight the hero that saved the village only ~12 years ago. That's my two cents on the matter.

[Lavigne]

wow interesting theory, but maybe akatsuki leader is brother the 4th Hokage in addition why the 4th Hokage betray konoha?

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

I'd have to cast severe doubt on this theory. It comes from basic speculation from scattered evidence, it is all just a conjecture with no solid proof. Firstly, the 4th Hokage DIED when he used the Demonic Sealing jutsu on the Kyubi. It was even shown directly that whoever uses that jutsu dies automatically. Therefore, it is not plausible to say that he is Akatsuki's leader. As for the Third not allowing the (presumeably) 4th's coffin be resurrected, the main explanation for that probably comes down to two factors. One, the 4th was considered to be one of Konoha's genius ninjas as well as an extremely powerful Hokage (Rasengan anyone?). In addition, Sarutobi probably did not want to go through the emotional trauma that would occur in having to fight the hero that saved the village only ~12 years ago. That's my two cents on the matter.

well, since the 4th is such a powerful guy, he could easily fake his own death. I know i dont have any solid evidence, i'm just saying its possible that the 4th is the leader.

Additional Comment:
wow interesting theory, but maybe akatsuki leader is brother the 4th Hokage in addition why the 4th Hokage betray konoha?

to gain the power of all the Bijus....... rule the world, i dont know. I would say hes never royal anyways, but thats just my guess..

[Tasuku]

Nevermind. Incorrect assumption.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

Umm, if you're referring to the blonde person on the pic Deidara is a guy. and His left eye is a scope, like on a rifle.

nono, i'm talking about the person behind Hidan, the one with blue hair and a flower on her head.

[GGGRRRRRR]

i have to agree with your theory. mainly because it seems all the main charcters has a rival to defeat in group
gai-kisame
sasuke-itachi
gaara-deidara
so it makes sense that they would make new exciting rivals for
naruto-the 4th a.k.a his faja
kakashi-the person who gave up his EYE for him
and the thing about the fight with orochimaru and the 3rd again makes sense what would have happened if the box opened and there was nothing there and also you dont have to kill your self using the demonic soul sealing you can use a shadow clone because its an exact double of you the 3rd sealed 3 people with that move because of the shadow clones so when the kyubii was sealed it could have been a clone and it make sense that the 4th would put it in his son. its so he would be determinded and get stronger so he would beat the fox and then face his ultimate test and face his father the greatest, strongest ninja ever

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

i have to agree with your theory. mainly because it seems all the main charcters has a rival to defeat in group
gai-kisame
sasuke-itachi
gaara-deidara
so it makes sense that they would make new exciting rivals for
naruto-the 4th a.k.a his faja
kakashi-the person who gave up his EYE for him
and the thing about the fight with orochimaru and the 3rd again makes sense what would have happened if the box opened and there was nothing there and also you dont have to kill your self using the demonic soul sealing you can use a shadow clone because its an exact double of you the 3rd sealed 3 people with that move because of the shadow clones so when the kyubii was sealed it could have been a clone and it make sense that the 4th would put it in his son. its so he would be determinded and get stronger so he would beat the fox and then face his ultimate test and face his father the greatest, strongest ninja ever

finally, someone who agrees with me:D

Additional Comment:
and dont forget sakura-Sasori. but sakura already took the win on that.

[Tasuku]

Aack. Now I feel embarassed. I couldn't tell that was a girl.

I apologize for insulting your intelligence.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

Aack. Now I feel embarassed. I couldn't tell that was a girl.

I apologize for insulting your intelligence.

no problem, its okay:D

[Akatsuki]

Yeah, I think so, also, if you look at the Fun with Akatsuki, the Leader has something with Naruto.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

I totally think the 4th is the leader, even if he doesnt look evil. It could be the irony this story has

[Lavigne]

After hearing from my friends who told me the 4th Hokage chould be Naruto's father AND the leader of akatsuki........

So i started thinking................

My theory of the akatsuki members goes like this:

The 4th is the leader;


Reason One: when Orochimaru fought the thrid, he calls out three coffins containing the 1st, 2nd and the 4th Hokage. the 1st and 2nd was opened, but the 4th was stopped by the thrid, why? maybe because the coffin doesnt have anything inside? maybe if Orochimaru opened it and found out the 4th was not dead, the writer can't continue the story?


NO NO NO The 3rd stopped that coffin cause he wouldnt be able to battle 3 kage's and a Sannin in Orochimaru.
Also the 4th was said to be the strongest of those 3.


Reason two: The hair of the leader matches the 4th's hair except the colour is a little bit darker. (this isnt much of a reason)


Means nothing and you never get a clear shot enough to say that. Most of the pics are fan art where they do there own adaptions.


Now to the female character on the picture. My guess is that she is Rin. why was shes face not shown? the same reason as the the 4th, we've seen her before. or else there wouldnt be a point on hiding her face.


Most of the "Why havent they shown there face" stuff is cause the creator is trying to flush the story out. They are slowly showing us the Akatsuki members and what there powers and missions really are. He dosent want to show you every member then there would be no suspense.


Last but not least, Tobi, the orange masked guy. I think he is Uchiha Obito because of the name............Tobi....Obito. not only that, but theres only one eye hole in tobi's mask, like Obito who offered his eye to kakashi. I know ppl will say, "but Obito is dead" well its a anime, anything could happen. maybe he was saved by Zetsu becuase tobi was formerly Zetsu's subordinate until he became a actual member.


This is something that I also believe and there are more facts to back this up then anythign else.


This is only my theory, so i dont have any reliable proof to back me up.

good theory it is possible but only time can tell.


Umm, if you're referring to the blonde person on the pic Deidara is a guy. and His left eye is a scope, like on a rifle..

deidara is a guy?

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

NO NO NO The 3rd stopped that coffin cause he wouldnt be able to battle 3 kage's and a Sannin in Orochimaru.
Also the 4th was said to be the strongest of those 3

well, thats wut the writer wants you to think. its possible that that scene is a foreshadowing of the stories ahead.


Means nothing and you never get a clear shot enough to say that. Most of the pics are fan art where they do there own adaptions

I'm mainly talking about the picture that i posted.

Most of the "Why havent they shown there face" stuff is cause the creator is trying to flush the story out. They are slowly showing us the Akatsuki members and what there powers and missions really are. He dosent want to show you every member then there would be no suspense.

They have shown everyone. if the leader is not someone ppl know, then theres no point on hiding his face. if hes just a new random powerful man, then his face will be shown. Theres pretty much no point on keeping the suspense that way.


good theory it is possible but only time can tell.

Thank you:D


deidara is a guy?

yea

[Lavigne]

1-well, thats wut the writer wants you to think. its possible that that scene is a foreshadowing of the stories ahead.




2-I'm mainly talking about the picture that i posted.



3-They have shown everyone. if the leader is not someone ppl know, then theres no point on hiding his face. if hes just a new random powerful man, then his face will be shown. Theres pretty much no point on keeping the suspense that way.




4-Thank you:D




5-yea

1-good point
2-ok
3-ok
4-don't mention it
5-that deception:( I think that he is pretty is identical to ino

[Shy Guy]

I see one more thing wrong with your theory. Isnt Akatsuki made up of one rouge ninja from each village? Your theory lists 4 leafs (Obito, Rin, Itachi and the 4th).

[`Phenom]

Yeah, I think so, also, if you look at the Fun with Akatsuki, the Leader has something with Naruto.
Fun with Akatsuki is just that, fun. Its a movie made by Naruto fans. It is not at all to be taken seriously. :mad:
Also this theory was just disproven, so I won't bother to do so. Just because they wont show the leader doesnt mean anything. They didnt show all the members before. They just uncovered them little by little. We will find out who it is when the time comes. But saying that it is the 4th is ridiculous. It is more plausible that Naruto is the 4th, than the Leader.

[orange peel]

After hearing from my friends who told me the 4th Hokage chould be Naruto's father AND the leader of akatsuki........

So i started thinking................

My theory of the akatsuki members goes like this:

The 4th is the leader:

Reason One: when Orochimaru fought the thrid, he calls out three coffins containing the 1st, 2nd and the 4th Hokage. the 1st and 2nd was opened, but the 4th was stopped by the thrid, why? maybe because the coffin doesnt have anything inside? maybe if Orochimaru opened it and found out the 4th was not dead, the writer can't continue the story?

Reason two: The hair of the leader matches the 4th's hair except the colour is a little bit darker. (this isnt much of a reason)

Reason three: on this picture: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/Akatsukispread.jpg the leader's face was not showen. maybe its because its a guy that ppl know from the story or else there isnt really anything to hide when all of the others guys are shown.(except one but that i will cover later)

Reason four: if the 4th is really a dead guy and we'll never see him again in the anime/manga, why is his identity a mystery. Why wont the writer just tell us about him? his dead already so nothing is there to hide. Why wasnt his name even mentioned? why was that even a mystery? Maybe because he will come back to the anime/manga? maybe hes still alive? maybe his name holds a great secret?

so that made me think the 4th is actually the leader of akatusuki......

Now to the female character on the picture. My guess is that she is Rin. why was shes face not shown? the same reason as the the 4th, we've seen her before. or else there wouldnt be a point on hiding her face.

Last but not least, Tobi, the orange masked guy. I think he is Uchiha Obito because of the name............Tobi....Obito. not only that, but theres only one eye hole in tobi's mask, like Obito who offered his eye to kakashi. I know ppl will say, "but Obito is dead" well its a anime, anything could happen. maybe he was saved by Zetsu becuase tobi was formerly Zetsu's subordinate until he became a actual member.

This is only my theory, so i dont have any reliable proof to back me up. Plz do not flame this.

Mind wrapping SPOILERs around it or putting a SPOILER warning? Thanks.


Interesting Assumption. You have some good and bad points. But I think I know for a fact that the Leader's hair is orange. It really does have the same style. Perhaps he dyed it?

The Obito point was really something to think about.

However, if we were to reveal more about the 4th's life, secrets would be revealed and we might find out other things that were suppose to be kept secret. Like him possibly being Naruto's father.

But what makes me doubt this also, is that Obito and 4th were considered heroes and were always on the good side until the end (of their lives).

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

But what makes me doubt this also, is that Obito and 4th were considered heroes and were always on the good side until the end (of their lives).

and thats why it could be shocking to see them as bad guys.

FallenAngelSeph: u do have a point, but i still think its possible.

[orange peel]

It'd be shocking but it'd be pretty hard to see that turn. From the pictures I've seen of the 4th, he's always smiling and happy like Naruto. If he were to have a similar personality like Naruto, it'd be hard to see him evil.


...

However, if you view Akatsuki as not an evil clan, but as a clan trying to rid the world of the Bijus or Harness their energies for better uses, then it's a very large chance 4th is the Akatsuki leader. The members might seem evil, but the most powerful ninjas do seem to be a tad evil or stragne due to their talent. I don't know what happened to his hair. (Perhaps it got bloodstained or he got a Biju infused in him?) But I think he was trying to rid the Biju's or capture them to save Naruto and the others. Afterall, The 4th is considered of Legendary power. Remember, Itachi and the others never actually did anything evil, Kakashi and Asuma were in their way so they got them out of their way. Their only goal was to get the Biju.

Itachi seems kinda weird when he sticks his hand out of his cloak... Why does he do that?

BTW, nice avatar, chaoslegend.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

It'd be shocking but it'd be pretty hard to see that turn. From the pictures I've seen of the 4th, he's always smiling and happy like Naruto. If he were to have a similar personality like Naruto, it'd be hard to see him evil.


...

However, if you view Akatsuki as not an evil clan, but as a clan trying to rid the world of the Bijus or Harness their energies for better uses, then it's a very large chance 4th is the Akatsuki leader. The members might seem evil, but the most powerful ninjas do seem to be a tad evil or stragne due to their talent. I don't know what happened to his hair. (Perhaps it got bloodstained or he got a Biju infused in him?) But I think he was trying to rid the Biju's or capture them to save Naruto and the others. Afterall, The 4th is considered of Legendary power. Remember, Itachi and the others never actually did anything evil, Kakashi and Asuma were in their way so they got them out of their way. Their only goal was to get the Biju.

Itachi seems kinda weird when he sticks his hand out of his cloak... Why does he do that?

BTW, nice avatar, chaoslegend.

thx, speaking of which, i've always believed that itachi didnt kill all of his family members. when sasuke saw him, hes simply standing infront of the dead bodies. maybe someone else killed them, and itachi says he killed them so that sasuke would hate him and become stronger. If Itachi killed everyone, why didnt he kill sasuke? (unless i missed something and theres a reason itachi didnt kill sasuke which i forgot)

[Lavigne]

One: when Orochimaru fought the thrid, he calls out three coffins containing the 1st, 2nd and the 4th Hokage. the 1st and 2nd was opened, but the 4th was stopped by the thrid, why? maybe because the coffin doesnt have anything inside? maybe if Orochimaru opened it and found out the 4th was not dead, the writer can't continue the story?

i agree but i think thats what orochimaru wanted the hokage to think. i think that the 4th's coffin was a fake (nothing in it) because think about it. orochimaru was a part of akatsuki and he probably knows the 4th is their leader so he faked the 4th's coffin so that the hokage wouold eliminate it and would have to fight the remaining 2. if orochimaru only brought out the 2 hokages that are actually dead then the hokage would have stopped one of those 2 and orochimaru might have been at a disadvantage. also, orochimaru uses zaku and kin as tributes for the 2 hokages but who was the sacrifice for the 4th's coffin? no one cause there was nothing in the coffin to begin with. if i'm right then orochimaru knew the 4th is alive and the only way he knew that was probably because the knows the 4th is the leader of akatsuki. therefore is my theory is correct .... 4th=Akatsuki Leader.

thats what i think. dont start yelling that i'm wrong. its only another theory

is a fact that tobi is obito
4th hokage is the dad of naruto is a fact
the 4th hokage is the akatsuki leader, well maybe
see ya

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

i agree but i think thats what orochimaru wanted the hokage to think. i think that the 4th's coffin was a fake (nothing in it) because think about it. orochimaru was a part of akatsuki and he probably knows the 4th is their leader so he faked the 4th's coffin so that the hokage wouold eliminate it and would have to fight the remaining 2. if orochimaru only brought out the 2 hokages that are actually dead then the hokage would have stopped one of those 2 and orochimaru might have been at a disadvantage. also, orochimaru uses zaku and kin as tributes for the 2 hokages but who was the sacrifice for the 4th's coffin? no one cause there was nothing in the coffin to begin with. if i'm right then orochimaru knew the 4th is alive and the only way he knew that was probably because the knows the 4th is the leader of akatsuki. therefore is my theory is correct .... 4th=Akatsuki Leader.

thats what i think. dont start yelling that i'm wrong. its only another theory

is a fact that toby is obito
the 4th hokage is a dad of naruto is a fact
the 4th hokage is the akatsuki leader, well maybe
see ya

i agree with you 100%. but i wouldnt say "tobi is obito" and "4th hokage is the dad of naruto" a fact. its just a possible theory which i agree with, not much of a fact.

[Lavigne]

Thx sorry, good theory maybe is real, tobi is obito, in a image of the manga, tobi takes its medicine for the eyes, in addition the color of his mask is orange like the protection for the eyes of obito

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

Thx sorry, good theory maybe is real, tobi is obito, in a image of the manga, tobi takes its medicine for the eyes, in addition the color of his mask is orange like obito

Okay i'm a little confused. tobi's mask is orange like obitos, obito wears a mask before?

[Lavigne]

not the protection for the eyes

[99TourGuides]

I doubt that Tobi is Obito since the anime would be screwed then.

[Shy Guy]

I doubt that Tobi is Obito since the anime would be screwed then.

How would the anime be screwed?

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

How would the anime be screwed?

thats wut i want to know too

[meb9000]

This discussion is sure getting deep here lol. In essence, this whole thing boils down to trying to define an event that didn't get to occur (the 4th's coffin never being resurrected) by using scattered evidence and speculation. It could go in a thousand directions for all we know.

Somehow, I just don't think that the 4th would use a Shadow Clone for the Kyubi seal and then just vanish. He was the noble leader of the village. Would he just up and leave after a devastating Biju attack AND leave his son to grow up as an orphan in one fell swoop? He would be almost as cold as Itachi, who killed the Uchiha clan just to test Sasuke's power in the end.The 4th using a clone is just a convenient excuse that makes ALL of the other stories even possible. If I recall correctly, I believe Anko says at one point, "I wish the 4th was here", during the Chunnin exam arc. That seems that they are pretty sure he ain't coming back, AS HE IS ALREADY DEAD!

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

This discussion is sure getting deep here lol. In essence, this whole thing boils down to trying to define an event that didn't get to occur (the 4th's coffin never being resurrected) by using scattered evidence and speculation. It could go in a thousand directions for all we know.

Somehow, I just don't think that the 4th would use a Shadow Clone for the Kyubi seal and then just vanish. He was the noble leader of the village. Would he just up and leave after a devastating Biju attack AND leave his son to grow up as an orphan in one fell swoop? He would be almost as cold as Itachi, who killed the Uchiha clan just to test Sasuke's power in the end.The 4th using a clone is just a convenient excuse that makes ALL of the other stories even possible. If I recall correctly, I believe Anko says at one point, "I wish the 4th was here", during the Chunnin exam arc. That seems that they are pretty sure he ain't coming back, AS HE IS ALREADY DEAD!

well no one knows that for sure, wut i'm trying to say is that 4th was never good in the first place(plz note that this is only wut i think). If he's the leader, then he was evil from the beginning. the act of noble and brave might be his cover. maybe he wants ppl to think hes a noble hero while secretly, he tries to gain all the powers of the bijus. this is only my theory.

[orange peel]

After hearing from my friends who told me the 4th Hokage chould be Naruto's father AND the leader of akatsuki........

So i started thinking................

I suggest you putting this AFTER the SPOILER warning

thx, speaking of which, i've always believed that itachi didnt kill all of his family members. when sasuke saw him, hes simply standing infront of the dead bodies. maybe someone else killed them, and itachi says he killed them so that sasuke would hate him and become stronger. If Itachi killed everyone, why didnt he kill sasuke? (unless i missed something and theres a reason itachi didnt kill sasuke which i forgot)

He definitely killed the Konoha clan. It was possibly an entry exam to the Akatuski.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

I suggest you putting this AFTER the SPOILER warning

He definitely killed the Konoha clan. It was possibly an entry exam to the Akatuski.

Done, then i guess i thought wrong about itachi...:(

[orange peel]

Its a good theory and all, but I think 4th will have to reveal he is his dad AND he's still alive before revealing him to be an evil-doer. But how can he reveal he's alive and nowhere to be found?

But that is counteracted with the fact the Akatsuki isn't really a bad organization. We have NO IDEA what they will do with the Bijus once they get all of them. Does the Akatuski know at all or does only the leader? I think the Akatuski know too since they wouldn't join otherwise...unless they heard there's a lot of S-Rank Criminals in there, but I don't think they'd join for just that.

So basically. Fair Theory.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

Its a good theory and all, but I think 4th will have to reveal he is his dad AND he's still alive before revealing him to be an evil-doer. But how can he reveal he's alive and nowhere to be found?

But that is counteracted with the fact the Akatsuki isn't really a bad organization. We have NO IDEA what they will do with the Bijus once they get all of them. Does the Akatuski know at all or does only the leader? I think the Akatuski know too since they wouldn't join otherwise...unless they heard there's a lot of S-Rank Criminals in there, but I don't think they'd join for just that.

So basically. Fair Theory.

thx:D . who knows, only time will tell.

[orange peel]

Watch the Leader be some weird guy who's not the 4th. LMAO.:D

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

Watch the Leader be some weird guy who's not the 4th. LMAO.:D

lol, that'd be more shocking than the 4th being the leader.:)

[Sasuke Uchiha]

I'm more then likely gonna be repeating what other's might have said. I only bothered to read the first post.

The Akatsuki Leader might not be the Fourth, but he's definately someone we know from the story. After all, if it wasn't anyone we knew prior to the introduction of the leader, then we shrowd him in a constant shadow? Unless Kishimoto is going for a "Kill Bill" sorta hidden identity thing.

Akat. leader might not be the Fourth. But he surely is someone that we know about already. Or he could possible Jin Musashi.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

I'm more then likely gonna be repeating what other's might have said. I only bothered to read the first post.

The Akatsuki Leader might not be the Fourth, but he's definately someone we know from the story. After all, if it wasn't anyone we knew prior to the introduction of the leader, then we shrowd him in a constant shadow? Unless Kishimoto is going for a "Kill Bill" sorta hidden identity thing.

Akat. leader might not be the Fourth. But he surely is someone that we know about already. Or he could possible Jin Musashi.

thats exactly what i'm trying to say. but the only possible person is the 4th or some random guy we saw on the anime getting beat up and thought hes just a weak dude but instead hes the leader??????(WTH am i talking about 0.o?)

[Sasuke Uchiha]

Well, all we do know is that it has to be some kickass person for people like Kitsune and Itachi and Orochimaru and Hidan to bow down to.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

Well, all we do know is that it has to be some kickass person for people like Kitsune and Itachi and Orochimaru and Hidan to bow down to.

totally, and the most kickass person we know of is the 4th.

[Jmanunknown]

Its a good theory and all, but I think 4th will have to reveal he is his dad AND he's still alive before revealing him to be an evil-doer. But how can he reveal he's alive and nowhere to be found?

But that is counteracted with the fact the Akatsuki isn't really a bad organization. We have NO IDEA what they will do with the Bijus once they get all of them. Does the Akatuski know at all or does only the leader? I think the Akatuski know too since they wouldn't join otherwise...unless they heard there's a lot of S-Rank Criminals in there, but I don't think they'd join for just that.

So basically. Fair Theory.


I sorta have a problem with what you just said about Akatsuki not being a really bad organization. You contradicted yourself in your own statements by saying that Akatsuki isn't a really bad organization but, then later mentioning that the entire organization is made up of S-Rank Criminals that doesn't make sense at all. Thats like saying the Legion of Doom isn't really a bad organization the group is just full of some of the most powerful,evil, super villians ever.

[ULra]

Obito wears googles kinda like naruto did in the first few episodes, not a mask.

[99TourGuides]

IMO, the Fourth is Naruto's dad, but not the Leader. Their hair color just sets me off. And the Leader is probably some new guy.

[Near]

Those theorys are so weird and they have been brought up countless times..
The 4th died, no? He had a funeral? Then his body was buried.

Obito's body was half-crushed. And he lacks 2 eyes, the crushed one and the one he gave up.
Beside, how can a loser like him become an Akatsuki member?

Naruto's dad? Wouldn't they know it if he was a dad?
Also, I don't think someone that would sacrifice his life for Konoha would become an Akatsuki leader.

[Hemostrat]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/Hemostrat/n317-02-03.jpg

The leader is in the back. Orange hair. Yondaime has yellow hair. Not Akatsuki leader.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/Hemostrat/n317-02-03.jpg

The leader is in the back. Orange hair. Yondaime has yellow hair. Not Akatsuki leader.

that picture was on the first page....... and i know that. its possible that the 4th's hair colour changed. its simply becuase if they show his hair colour to be yellow, then everybody would know the leader is the 4th. (still, this is only my theroy)

[Hemostrat]

So Kishi would change the color of Yondaime's hair, the thing that links him to Naruto? I doubt it, very much. If Yondaime WAS the leader, Kishi would've put his hair as yellow just to torment the readers and speculate. Lord knows he's done that enough times already in the series.

[Lavigne]

maybe in the picture, the autor change the color of leader so that nobody suspected

[orange peel]

I sorta have a problem with what you just said about Akatsuki not being a really bad organization. You contradicted yourself in your own statements by saying that Akatsuki isn't a really bad organization but, then later mentioning that the entire organization is made up of S-Rank Criminals that doesn't make sense at all. Thats like saying the Legion of Doom isn't really a bad organization the group is just full of some of the most powerful,evil, super villians ever.

I meant that Akatsuki is a bad oragnaization BUT you can view it as an oragnaization just trying to gather the Bijus. Its all a matter of opinion. They only kill or do bad things if someone's in their way to the Bijus.

Addding on to the list of possibilities, I'd say Orochimaru could be the Leader. Its held back by the fact that he said Itachi was stronger than him but that could be a lie. He could have used the Immortality Jutsu to take over a body and look like someone else. And he was once a member so he knew all about it.

Or it could be a funny guy with a mustache.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

maybe in the picture, the autor change the color of leader so that nobody suspected

exactly:D if Kishimoto made the hair of the leader yellow, then the whole story is ruined. ppl will know the leader is the 4th, cause its that obvious! by making the hair a different colour, ppl would except less of that theroy. since this theroy has been going on for quite some time, Kishimoto might have heard about this and wants to settle it by either:

-change the leader who once was suppose to be the 4th to someone else.

-show a picture of the leader with a hair colour differ from the 4th, so ppl will suspect less. and when they finally show the leader to be the 4th, they can simply make up a story about how the 4th got his hair colour changed because of his evilness.

(another one of my theory)

[Hemostrat]

That is a really, really lame theory, don't mean to be mean or anything but that really is. "I think I'll dye my hair because I want to be evil! Yes!"

If anything, Kishi would've put the hair as yellow and then NOT made the leader the fourth. People really have no back up to this theory at all, the Suzaku Sasuke theory had so much more. Hell, the Asuma is Tobi theory even had more.

Face it, when it comes to big things, Kishi normally throughs a curve ball that no one saw coming. If I remember right, the only theory/guess that anyone has really guessed right recently was that Kabuto was the spy.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

That is a really, really lame theory, don't mean to be mean or anything but that really is. "I think I'll dye my hair because I want to be evil! Yes!"

If anything, Kishi would've put the hair as yellow and then NOT made the leader the fourth. People really have no back up to this theory at all, the Suzaku Sasuke theory had so much more. Hell, the Asuma is Tobi theory even had more.

Face it, when it comes to big things, Kishi normally throughs a curve ball that no one saw coming. If I remember right, the only theory/guess that anyone has really guessed right recently was that Kabuto was the spy.

i said he can simply Make UP a story such as "dye hair" and stuff. i dont know wut he will write, but there could be alot of story he can write to this hair thing. and so wut if he comes up with ideas that are unexpected, i'm simply stating my theory. i could be wrong but i'm just saying wut i believe in.

EDIT: and wuts with the Suzaku Sasuke??????? and Asuma is Tobi????????????<-(wut? where did this come from???)

[Hemostrat]

On another message board I go to they have a crap load of theories and guesses and what not. I'll post the Suzaku Sasuke one in a bit, its really long. The Asuma = Tobi theory proved false when Tobi and Asuma were shown in the same chapter but it was about that Asuma's character could really go anywhere since much characterization wasn't done on him. Some people believed that his speach to Sandaime's grave was a goodbye note to Konoha, and then the same about him being a scrafice piece and there was more but I can't remember it.

[L'Arc-en-Ciel]

On another message board I go to they have a crap load of theories and guesses and what not. I'll post the Suzaku Sasuke one in a bit, its really long. The Asuma = Tobi theory proved false when Tobi and Asuma were shown in the same chapter but it was about that Asuma's character could really go anywhere since much characterization wasn't done on him. Some people believed that his speach to Sandaime's grave was a goodbye note to Konoha, and then the same about him being a scrafice piece and there was more but I can't remember it.

wow, never heard about that. pretty interesting.

[drizzztdourden]

The fourth being the Akatsuki leader wouldn't be a very good plot twist... to predictable

[Hemostrat]

But the whole Yondaime being Naruto's father is too predictable as well but there is a relief factor if he is.

[Akatsuki]

Let us just with the 4th is not the head of the Akatsuki. They are just too powerful, if that is true. It would be cool, if the Akatsukis suddenly became good guys to kill Orichimaru and Sasuke.

[`Phenom]

Let us just with the 4th is not the head of the Akatsuki. They are just too powerful, if that is true. It would be cool, if the Akatsukis suddenly became good guys to kill Orichimaru and Sasuke.
Well, Akatsuki is already hunting down Orochimaru. They're still bad, though.

Additional Comment:
That is a really, really lame theory, don't mean to be mean or anything but that really is. "I think I'll dye my hair because I want to be evil! Yes!"

If anything, Kishi would've put the hair as yellow and then NOT made the leader the fourth. People really have no back up to this theory at all, the Suzaku Sasuke theory had so much more. Hell, the Asuma is Tobi theory even had more.

Face it, when it comes to big things, Kishi normally throughs a curve ball that no one saw coming. If I remember right, the only theory/guess that anyone has really guessed right recently was that Kabuto was the spy.
Yeah, Im still wondering about the whole Suzaku/Uchiha theory......

[orange peel]

I don't think he dyed his hair just to be evil, that's retty lame. I think his hair was either changed permanently and/or involuntarily and Kishimoto made that scenario up so people would suspect the Fourth so easily.

[King Of Duelists]

I think i agree with the whole 4th=naruto father and leader of Akatsuki.
Maybe since he looks a bit like the 4th he is but fused with something?
Akatsuki(sp?) could be good, they simply want the tailed demons, maybe for a good reason....?
I also think Naruto Vs 4th/Akatsuki leader is a good rival.

[99TourGuides]

They're still bad, though.Just because they're the antagonists doesn't mean they're bad.