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Lavigne
09-08-2006, 08:26 AM
Have noticed the similarities of naruto and the The 4th (Hokage)"?
I if
Here some strange things:
First
The 4th (Hokage) seal kiuby in naruto , jiraiya and 3rd hokage they said that it was to protect to naruto.
Second
In the battle with kiuby the 4th (Hokage) dies and mysteriously naruto does not have family.
Third
When itachi arrives kakashi asks to him what wishes in konoha
and itachi says I look for legacy of 4th and kakashi says naruto
Fourth
When jiraiya trains naruto and it throws it by the crack to summon a frog jiraiya says forgive me 4th ¿Why?
Fifth
Jiraiya says to naruto - u remember me the 4th
sixht
Naruto dominate fast the rasengan.
Seventh
Naruto and the 4th are identical.
Eighth
Naruto wishes to be hokage.
Ninth
In the battle of orochimaru vs 3rd hokage , hokage remembers the old times before dying , and it leaves the image the 4th , and later the image of baby naruto.
In addition
naruto is the principal character of the serie must be important , and the 4th (Hokage) seal kiuby in naruto ¿for what? ¿why naruto?
the 3rd hokage say 4 u seal the kiuby in naruto for protect to naruto of danger.
you have seen the The 4th (Hokage)? he is identical to naruto
in addition in the battle of orochimaru vs 3rd hokage why 3rd say i cant permit that leave the 4th.
In addition sometimes in the serie pass parts of the past of the others hokages except of the quarter ¿why?
The name of the 4th (Hokage) is yodaime , maybe is uzumaki yodaime
What u think kinder

torchamp
09-08-2006, 01:13 PM
Have noticed the similarities of naruto and the 4 hokage?
I if
Here some strange things:
First
4 hokage seal kiuby in naruto , jiraiya and 3 hokage they said that it was to protect to naruto.
Second
In the battle with kiuby the 4 hokage dies and mysteriously naruto does not have family.
Third
When itachi arrives kakashi asks to him what wishes in konoha
and itachi says I look for legacy of quarter and kakashi says naruto
Fourth
When jiraiya trains naruto and it throws it by the crack to summon a frog jiraiya says forgive me quarter ¿Why?
Fifth
Jiraiya says to naruto - u remember me the quarter
Sixth
Naruto dominate fast the rasengan.
Seventh
Naruto and quarter are identical.
Eighth
Naruto wishes to be hokage.
Ninth
In the battle of orochimaru vs 3 hokage , hokage remembers the old times before dying , and it leaves the image the quarter , and later the image of baby naruto.
In addition
naruto is the principal character of the serie must be important , and 4 hokage seal kiuby in naruto ¿for what? ¿why naruto?
the 3 hokage say 4 u seal the kiuby in naruto for protect to naruto of danger.
you have seen the quarter? he is identical to naruto
in addition in the battle of orochimaru vs 3 hokage why 3 say i cant permit that leave the quarter.
In addition sometimes in the serie pass parts of the past of the others hokages except of the quarter ¿why?
The name of 4 hokage is yodaime , maybe is uzumaki yodaime
What u think kinder

yondaime hokage means fourth hokage if i'm not mistaken, it's not his name

oh and learn to type. Do you speak english cause what you posted look like you put it through a translator or a woodchipper.

orange peel
09-08-2006, 06:31 PM
4th Hokage Thread talks about the same thing.

It's gotten into a great discussion there.

BTW, I think you just have a bad youtube translation, Lavigne cause I don't remember someone saying Quarter all those times...I did hear people say "The 4th (Hokage)" instead during all those times.

andres_girl_4_life
09-08-2006, 11:52 PM
It's probably just from him trying to type in english. 4th = quarter it's an easy mistake if you speak a different language.

Lavigne
09-09-2006, 07:21 AM
*sigh* ~_~
torchamp torchamp torchamp
I try to do it
the english is you language , you only speak english , the spanish is my lenguage , i speak spanish and I learn English.
this year I take to 2 months learning english and my english still is bad , but it will improve my english with time
forgive me the annoyances that it causes you my bad translations , single it tried to do a good thread *_*

orange peel
09-09-2006, 08:55 AM
I can tell. A lot.

I'll speak in Spanish for you. I take the class.

Hola! Yo soy Orange Peel. Como Estas? Tu tienes thread es duplicate.

ZanarkandAce
09-09-2006, 08:55 AM
Okay, I'll address your points with some ideas of my own that I've picked up through all of my reading and stuff...

1st: The 4th didn't seal the Kyuubi in Naruto for his portection, he did it for the portection of all of Konoha. Naruto falls into that catagorey, but why, to protect someone, would you seal a dangerous spirit in them?

2nd: It's possible that Naruto's mother and father were both killed by the Kyuubi in the fight. Coincidence. Also possible that Naruto's mother died in child birth. Remember that when the Shukaku was sealed in Gaara, his mother was a sacrifice for the ritual. Could have been the same with Naruto...

3rd: His legacy could also be the legacy of the boy who holds the Kyuubi. The strongest and most dangerous of all the demons... That could have been the legacy.

4th: Jiraiya could have been appologizing because if Naruto died, then the 4th's effort to seal the Kyuubi would have been for nothing.

5th: I can't make heads or tails of that part. You remind me of the 4th, possibly. And if that's the case, a lot of people who knew the 4th are reminded of him when they look at Naruto. But that could be a visual thing, and his manerisms could be the same.

6th: Naruto has determination. That's the reason he learns any Jutsu fast. He learned Kage Bunshin no Jutsu in a few hours. That's a Jounin level technique. Determination could be the cause of that. And also, remember, Naruto didn't fully learn mastery of Rasengan. He needs clones to make the jutsu. Others who know it don't.

7th: When someone says that someone else looks just like a movie star, that doesn't mean that they are related, does it?

8th: Konohamaru wishes to be Hokage too. Yes, I know that he's related to Sandaime, but that doesn't mean anything. Tsunade's boyfriend wanted to be Hokage too... That doesn't make him related to a Hokage.

9th: Remembering the sacrifice of the 4th, and who it involved doesn't set in stone that they are related.

10th: He sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto as he had just been born. Naruto's the star because of that fact.

And Yondaime is a title. It boils down to "4th" The full title is Yondaime Hokage. There was Shodaime (Tsunade's Father? Grandfather? One of the 2) Nidaime, Sandaime, Yondaime, and Godaime.

There are points that make it seem like they are related. But we can't be sure until Kishimoto-sama says it in the manga. Until then, we can only speculate. I didn't wanna disprove all your ideas, but I wanted to show you how your ideas could be coincidence too.

orange peel
09-09-2006, 09:13 AM
Good points. However, wrong thread. Lavigne (who created this thread) has already posted in a thread about the same topic started much earlier then this. Why would she start a whole new thread on this? Lavigne's got some weird stuff going on. She believes the 4th is Naruto in the other thread.:rolleyes: She thinks its the 4th Reincarnate. I proved her wrong. BTW, the title of the old thread is 4th Hokage.

torchamp
09-09-2006, 09:30 AM
*sigh* ~_~
torchamp torchamp torchamp
I try to do it
the english is you language , you only speak english , the spanish is my lenguage , i speak spanish and I learn English.
this year I take to 2 months learning english and my english still is bad , but it will improve my english with time
forgive me the annoyances that it causes you my bad translations , single it tried to do a good thread *_*

yo habalo espanol tambien, mis papas son peruanos, no soy gringo como muchos otros en pojo. Yo aprendi a hablar espanol antes de aprendera hablar ingles. No puedes juzgarme. Y ya ay un thread para esto. No se porque hiciste otro. tienes que aprender ingles. Perdoname, no tengo acentos en mi computadora.

Additional Comment:
I can tell. A lot.

I'll speak in Spanish for you. I take the class.

Hola! Yo soy Orange Peel. Como Estas? Tu tienes thread es duplicate.

i hope that wasn't a serious attempt at spanish, it wasn't very good. I hat how they teach gringo spanish in school out of the cute little textbooks where juan and juanita go out for tacos.

orange peel
09-09-2006, 09:35 AM
yo habalo espanol tambien, mis papas son peruanos, no soy gringo como muchos otros en pojo. Yo aprendi a hablar espanol antes de aprendera hablar ingles. No puedes juzgarme. Y ya ay un thread para esto. No se porque hiciste otro. tienes que aprender ingles. Perdoname, no tengo acentos en mi computadora.

LMAO, Nice.

As for my attempt, it sadly was. I could have done a lot better, perhaps on your level or higher, about a year ago. However, due to Summer Vacation, A Average Spanish Teacher, and a slacker class of students who are all older than me who don't know the Ser, I've turned stupid. I'd gladyly want to switch out of that class but I don't want to mess up my schedule.

Darth Payne
09-09-2006, 11:31 AM
Your English isn't bad for someone with 2 months of experience.

I think the 4th is Naruto's dad, but we don't know for sure.

orange peel
09-09-2006, 06:24 PM
Someone I know has seen all the episodes.

SPOILERS












it is

torchamp
09-09-2006, 08:35 PM
Someone I know has seen all the episodes.

SPOILERS












it is

it's never been said anywhere that naruto is the fourths dad. Your friend is messing with you. I speak fluent spanish by the way, an advantage of having peruvian parents.

orange peel
09-10-2006, 01:48 PM
it's never been said anywhere that naruto is the fourths dad. Your friend is messing with you. I speak fluent spanish by the way, an advantage of having peruvian parents.

Oh, that's why you speak so well. I've taken a class for it.

And I believe he did mess with me because I recall calling him Choji on AIM...

cartoonist1992
09-10-2006, 04:25 PM
Your English isn't bad for someone with 2 months of experience.

I think the 4th is Naruto's dad, but we don't know for sure.

agreed even there laughs are alike! but we cant say for sure...

ULra
09-10-2006, 07:29 PM
yo habalo espanol tambien, mis papas son peruanos, no soy gringo como muchos otros en pojo. Yo aprendi a hablar espanol antes de aprendera hablar ingles. No puedes juzgarme. Y ya ay un thread para esto. No se porque hiciste otro. tienes que aprender ingles. Perdoname, no tengo acentos en mi computadora.Hate it when I don't understand anything!

On topic: 1 Half on my says, "They're related, kill anyone that doesn't agree."
Whilst the other says,"Shut up Craphead! They aren't related!" I hate my split personality...

torchamp
09-11-2006, 01:56 PM
Hate it when I don't understand anything!

On topic: 1 Half on my says, "They're related, kill anyone that doesn't agree."
Whilst the other says,"Shut up Craphead! They aren't related!" I hate my split personality...

i thin kkinda like you. I think they're related, but i dont want them to be because its way to predictable. It's the same thing with kate and sawyer together, i don't want them to get together, but you know somethings gonna happen eventually

ZanarkandAce
09-11-2006, 02:18 PM
Someone I know has seen all the episodes.

SPOILERS












it is
You have defidently been messed with, as I have seen all of the anime, and all of the manga, and they never once said that they were indeed related. That's why there's still speculation. if they did indeed say that Naruto was the son of the 4th, it would have been big news, and every naruto fan would have known by now.

orange peel
09-11-2006, 04:42 PM
Yeah its too predictable. I mean they're the only people (males) in the whole Anime/Manga that have blonde hair!:eek:

And the weird thing is, they're modeled a bit after Japanese people...so what's with the blonde hair? I guess Naruto would look weird with black hair...

torchamp
09-11-2006, 06:25 PM
Yeah its too predictable. I mean they're the only people (males) in the whole Anime/Manga that have blonde hair!:eek:

And the weird thing is, they're modeled a bit after Japanese people...so what's with the blonde hair? I guess Naruto would look weird with black hair...

naruto would look like obito with black hair

Lavigne
09-12-2006, 10:16 AM
oh and learn to type. Do you speak english cause what you posted look like you put it through a translator or a woodchipper.

ja ja ja, no conocia los traductrores y hoy busque en yahoo y encontre unos, realmente son malos, q tu los usas mucho kinder.

Okay, I'll address your points with some ideas of my own that I've picked up through all of my reading and stuff...

1st: The 4th didn't seal the Kyuubi in Naruto for his portection, he did it for the portection of all of Konoha. Naruto falls into that catagorey, but why, to protect someone, would you seal a dangerous spirit in them?

2nd: It's possible that Naruto's mother and father were both killed by the Kyuubi in the fight. Coincidence. Also possible that Naruto's mother died in child birth. Remember that when the Shukaku was sealed in Gaara, his mother was a sacrifice for the ritual. Could have been the same with Naruto...

3rd: His legacy could also be the legacy of the boy who holds the Kyuubi. The strongest and most dangerous of all the demons... That could have been the legacy.

4th: Jiraiya could have been appologizing because if Naruto died, then the 4th's effort to seal the Kyuubi would have been for nothing.

5th: I can't make heads or tails of that part. You remind me of the 4th, possibly. And if that's the case, a lot of people who knew the 4th are reminded of him when they look at Naruto. But that could be a visual thing, and his manerisms could be the same.

6th: Naruto has determination. That's the reason he learns any Jutsu fast. He learned Kage Bunshin no Jutsu in a few hours. That's a Jounin level technique. Determination could be the cause of that. And also, remember, Naruto didn't fully learn mastery of Rasengan. He needs clones to make the jutsu. Others who know it don't.

7th: When someone says that someone else looks just like a movie star, that doesn't mean that they are related, does it?

8th: Konohamaru wishes to be Hokage too. Yes, I know that he's related to Sandaime, but that doesn't mean anything. Tsunade's boyfriend wanted to be Hokage too... That doesn't make him related to a Hokage.

9th: Remembering the sacrifice of the 4th, and who it involved doesn't set in stone that they are related.

10th: He sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto as he had just been born. Naruto's the star because of that fact.

And Yondaime is a title. It boils down to "4th" The full title is Yondaime Hokage. There was Shodaime (Tsunade's Father? Grandfather? One of the 2) Nidaime, Sandaime, Yondaime, and Godaime.

There are points that make it seem like they are related. But we can't be sure until Kishimoto-sama says it in the manga. Until then, we can only speculate. I didn't wanna disprove all your ideas, but I wanted to show you how your ideas could be coincidence too.

Good points brother

She believes the 4th is Naruto in the other thread. She thinks its the 4th Reincarnate.

rigth.
first im a guy dude, second respect to the other thread i write in other page the same thread, and a person say me that
i have all episodes since the first episode to 192 episode in dvd of course


yo habalo espanol tambien, mis papas son peruanos, no soy gringo como muchos otros en pojo. Yo aprendi a hablar espanol antes de aprendera hablar ingles. No puedes juzgarme. Y ya ay un thread para esto. No se porque hiciste otro. tienes que aprender ingles. Perdoname, no tengo acentos en mi computadora.


te perdono pero primero hermano latino como acabas d decir, tu primero hablaste español y luego como t fuiste a vivir a USA tuviste q aprender ingles.
segundo odio la palabra gringo, tiene muy poca clase, te dire por q la odio en la escuela siempre me dicen gringo ya q todos saben q soy mitad americano t dire por q
I will tell you my history
first i born in boston USA , but i grew in mexico , my dad is american and my mom is mexican , and my dad never taught me english.
I started to learn english because in 2 years i go to the university , and boston college , syracuse , and more universities are interesed in me , because i play footbal american , im quarterback , and im good player , in the life i have 4 loves
1-football
2-girls
3-yugioh
4-naruto
diciendo esto espero dejes d criticarme por apenas aprender ingles , ya q no me interesa aprenderlo pero si mi futuro d jugador profesional depende d eso lo hare , como dicen, aprendes las cosas mas rapido si las practicas con lo q te gusta , y como me encanta naruto y yu gi oh en estos foros practico pero le gentusa como tu q me critica solo me hace enojar.
sin resentimientos amigo


Your English isn't bad for someone with 2 months of experience.

I think the 4th is Naruto's dad, but we don't know for sure.

thx bro , yeah i think the same


agreed even there laughs are alike! but we cant say for sure...

thx bro

Green Koolaid
09-12-2006, 10:24 AM
If I remember right, it has also been said that Naruto may be jiraiyas son. ?

orange peel
09-12-2006, 01:31 PM
ja ja ja, no conocia los traductrores y hoy busque en yahoo y encontre unos, realmente son malos, q tu los usas mucho kinder.



Good points brother



rigth.
first im a guy dude, second respect to the other thread i write in other page the same thread, and a person say me that, this is the page
http://forum.*********.com/showthread.php?t=89261
i have all episodes since the first episode to 192 episode in dvd of course




te perdono pero primero hermano latino como acabas d decir, tu primero hablaste español y luego como t fuiste a vivir a USA tuviste q aprender ingles.
segundo odio la palabra gringo, tiene muy poca clase, te dire por q la odio en la escuela siempre me dicen gringo ya q todos saben q soy mitad americano t dire por q
I will tell you my history
first i born in boston USA , but i grew in mexico , my dad is american and my mom is mexican , and my dad never taught me english.
I started to learn english because in 2 years i go to the university , and boston college , syracuse , and more universities are interesed in me , because i play footbal american , im quarterback , and im good player , in the life i have 4 loves
1-football
2-girls
3-yugioh
4-naruto
diciendo esto espero dejes d criticarme por apenas aprender ingles , ya q no me interesa aprenderlo pero si mi futuro d jugador profesional depende d eso lo hare , como dicen, aprendes las cosas mas rapido si las practicas con lo q te gusta , y como me encanta naruto y yu gi oh en estos foros practico pero le gentusa como tu q me critica solo me hace enojar.
sin resentimientos amigo




thx bro , yeah i think the same




thx bro

Please don't talk in spanish. I can't read it well. The link doesn't work. I also posted about the 4th Hokage and qouted your post here:

The history part was interesting. No comment on my history.

Green Koolaid- They have a similar personality but I just don't think its possible. Jiriaya's a bit too perverted. And no physical resemblance.

Lavigne
09-12-2006, 01:51 PM
ok thx later i translate

orange peel
09-12-2006, 01:55 PM
I think its censored for a reason. Because I already saw it, I'll go and look at it. But I think you should take that out/edit it before you get reported.

However, you can look at this thread which, BTW, is in THIS forums, and YOU posted on it before you started this thread. It talks about the same thing so that means this thread is a DUPLICATE and you should have known that.

http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=344096&page=2

Good points, though.

torchamp
09-12-2006, 01:55 PM
Please don't talk in spanish. I can't read it well. The link doesn't work. I also posted about the 4th Hokage and qouted your post here:

The history part was interesting. No comment on my history.

Green Koolaid- They have a similar personality but I just don't think its possible. Jiriaya's a bit too perverted. And no physical resemblance.

his spanish part was directed at me, i suggest we just stop talking in spanish if thats okay with everyone, it's getting old

Akatsuki
09-13-2006, 07:53 AM
On the other hand, I might think that the leader of the Akatsuki clan is Naruto's Relative. It is impossible for Naruto to have No Relatives at all. At least some one in the Akatsuki.

Lavigne
09-13-2006, 09:50 AM
On the other hand, I might think that the leader of the Akatsuki clan is Naruto's Relative. It is impossible for Naruto to have No Relatives at all. At least some one in the Akatsuki.

mmm good theory , is true akatsuki leader is similar to naruto, but he has red hair and dont is blonde
manga chapter 254

torchamp
09-13-2006, 11:38 AM
mmm good theory , is true akatsuki leader is similar to naruto, but he has red hair and dont is blonde
manga chapter 254

it looks more brown to me

Lavigne
09-13-2006, 01:22 PM
ohhh, maybe akatsuki leader is brother of the 4th Hokage and uncle of naruto