Am I the only one who completely hates Ron?

[Near]

Well, I just hate him.

He's always searching for being famous and attention.

It's because of him that at their 3rd year Harry & Ron didn't talk to Hermione.
At the 4th year he doesn't tak to Harry [at the beggining after Harry's name comes out of the Goblet], and why? because Harry was famous once again for something he didn't want.

As if it wasn't hard for Harry enough without Ron.

Also, why is he always so arrogant about other people romance life?
He annoys Ginny and get pissed because she goes out with boys.
He also annoys Hermione for going out with Krum.

He can also be very mean. Not to mention that he sort of abused Lavender to look as if he can get girls easily.

He is also very arrogant for fame. For example, the "Slug Club".
He annoys Harry and Hermione because he isn't invited to the club, because he isn't anyone special.

He's a mediocre at best Wizard, and is most of the time useless, he only causes trouble and problems between characters.

At the end, he suddenly goes out with Hermione after all the harassment she got from him.

I seriously hope J.K kills him at the end. He is a useless Wizard who only wants to be famous [as proven when he looks in the Mirror of Erised]

I will add more when I remember what I wanted to type :p

[Ilovecheese]

when does he abuse lavender? i don't remember that...

[99TourGuides]

In short, he's the typical human.

So, yeah. I hate him too.

[Near]

when does he abuse lavender? i don't remember that...
He wasn't her boyfriend in the 6th book because he loved her.
It's obvious because he snoggedher in the middle of a room full of people, and it also happened like 1 day after Ginny shouted that he never snogged anyone.

[TheSmartMarksBRV]

Most of your criticism of Ron seems to be for him acting like your average teenager. And, regarding Harry and Ron not talking to Hermione in PoA is because she snitched to MGonagall about the Firebolt and they throught she kinda betrayed their trust. Not saying it was right, but how else were they supposed to feel about it?

[99TourGuides]

Most of your criticism of Ron seems to be for him acting like your average teenager.
Exactly. Just exactly why I hate him.

And he's clumsy.

[Near]

Exactly. Just exactly why I hate him.

And he's clumsy.
Yeah, agreed. The only useful thing he did in his whole life was at their 1st year with that chess game..

He never figures things out, all he does is seek attention.

I posted this after I read the 6th book again, and realised how selfish he is.

[orange peel]

If you read, Ron's jealous. Of Harry's love life, fame, etc. And the rest is typical. A good faithful best mate. Don't feel like going into detail. I don't hate him.

[LockDownOLD]

Ron is a typical guy who hangs around with who he thinks is cool....take my friend Tony for example all he does is hang around me and get jealous when we go out on game night because I'm starting and hes not then in the hallways when I'm talking to people but people like that are good to keep around because they're usually funny when they do things and crave attention so theyll do stupid stuff it it gets em noticed and me and him have good times Ron is from a family of alot of people its called a competitive spirit not that hes a stuck up arrogant git like malfoy

[99TourGuides]

Yeah, agreed. The only useful thing he did in his whole life was at their 1st year with that chess game..

He never figures things out, all he does is seek attention.

I posted this after I read the 6th book again, and realised how selfish he is.
To criticize him further:

Out of the 7 Deadly Sins he has:
Lust - Dated Lavender just so he could kiss.
Pride - Meh. Nothing to be proud of.
Greed - Understandable, since his family's poor
Sloth - Yeah, he never does his goddamn homework
Gluttony - He's ALWAYS hungry
Wrath - He was pretty mad a lot and lost control too much
Envy - His biggest one. Probably his whole fricking theme

5/7 Wow.

I think J.K. Rowling will make a LOT more better though.

[LockDownOLD]

Well.....I think everyone is guilty of at least 5 of the 7 Deadly Sins ^^

[orange peel]

To criticize him further:

Out of the 7 Deadly Sins he has:
Lust - Dated Lavender just so he could kiss.
Pride - Meh. Nothing to be proud of.
Greed - Understandable, since his family's poor
Sloth - Yeah, he never does his goddamn homework
Gluttony - He's ALWAYS hungry
Wrath - He was pretty mad a lot and lost control too much
Envy - His biggest one. Probably his whole fricking theme

5/7 Wow.

I think J.K. Rowling will make a LOT more better though.

LOL. I like the Guttony one.

He's alway's hungry. LMAO

He's still a great friend. And will make a terrific best mate and future Auror

[99TourGuides]

He doesn't make for a good Auror in my opinion, and that seems a little unoriginal since that's Harry's dream

[ajp123]

He doesn't make for a good Auror in my opinion, and that seems a little unoriginal since that's Harry's dream

Yeah, he kinda sucks at some of the subjects required for an Auror. E.g. Potions.

~AJP.

[jufarius87]

"sighs"

one of the reasons I like the harry potter books is that Rowling does not fall into the trap of making her characters godlike in their morality/ethics and also, on the flipside, she does not overly compensate for the fact that her heroes are not perfect. She is writing about teenagers. I am 18 and I will tell from experience (both personal and observed) that everything the poster submitted about ron is correct, but also that those factors come naturally to just about every teenager (however I will admit, Ron seems to have many, many, of the character flaws the poster listed where as most teens only have about 1-3).
Do I hate Ron? Well, no, he is fictional. However if he were real he would probably be the type of personality I would end getting into a confrontation with....

[Wynn Notus]

You are wrong about Ron. When he looks into the mirror, he sees himself finally being better at something than his brothers. His entire life, he has had really great and rememberable brothers, and they always had something to show for their work. Ron on the other hand, can hardly remember simple incantations. You see Ron as a person seeking power, but Rowling has only portrayed him as an overeager wizard, and a very loyal friend. You can always count on him to do the right thing.

He also accepted Ginny and Harry's relationship. He was just acting the part of an overbearing and protective brother.

It was stubborness and stupidity on both Harry and Rons as well as Hermione, for their relationship issues. Ron and Hermione have always acted like a amrried couple. So its only fitting that in the end they actually become one.

He disliked Hermione for hanging out with Krum, because He viewed Krum as the enemy. In the end, he did ask for Krum's Autograph, and apologized to Hermione.

Also, The hat placed Ron in Gryffindor for a reason. Hes loyal, hardworking, and brave when he has to be. Who used the levitation charm in the first movie to save Harry's life. Whos broken wand saved both him and Harry from having their minds erased? Who spent so much time being Harry's best friend? Who didn't judge Harry based on his past? You have got alot to learn about Ron. Maybe if you read past his clumsiness, you may see a good person. Besides, do ya really think Hermione and Harry would hang out with someone so pathetic, if he wasn't a good person?

[99TourGuides]

^

Damn. I can't think of anything to say against your post. Guess you win.

[orange peel]

You are wrong about Ron. When he looks into the mirror, he sees himself finally being better at something than his brothers. His entire life, he has had really great and rememberable brothers, and they always had something to show for their work. Ron on the other hand, can hardly remember simple incantations. You see Ron as a person seeking power, but Rowling has only portrayed him as an overeager wizard, and a very loyal friend. You can always count on him to do the right thing.

He also accepted Ginny and Harry's relationship. He was just acting the part of an overbearing and protective brother.

It was stubborness and stupidity on both Harry and Rons as well as Hermione, for their relationship issues. Ron and Hermione have always acted like a amrried couple. So its only fitting that in the end they actually become one.

He disliked Hermione for hanging out with Krum, because He viewed Krum as the enemy. In the end, he did ask for Krum's Autograph, and apologized to Hermione.

Also, The hat placed Ron in Gryffindor for a reason. Hes loyal, hardworking, and brave when he has to be. Who used the levitation charm in the first movie to save Harry's life. Whos broken wand saved both him and Harry from having their minds erased? Who spent so much time being Harry's best friend? Who didn't judge Harry based on his past? You have got alot to learn about Ron. Maybe if you read past his clumsiness, you may see a good person. Besides, do ya really think Hermione and Harry would hang out with someone so pathetic, if he wasn't a good person?


All in all, most of what you said is correct. But I personallly agree and aplaud how well you acurately portrayed the Ron JKR's been trying to show everyone (Including the movie script writers).

However, Hermione and Ron didn't act like the normal bickering couple in the first 3-4 books. Perhaps because JKR didn't think of their future together until then.

Ron actually disliked Hermione, if you like it or not, because he was jealous. Remember the part when Hermione say's (at the near end of the Yule Ball) "If you really didn't want this to happen, you should have asked me to the ball first and rather than a last resort!" Ron: "That's completely besides the point!" Narrater: But Harry thought Hermione got the point much better than Ron did. But Ron did use the excuse of disliking Hermione going out with Krum as "fraternizing with the enemy" even though Hermione plainly said that she herself DID NOT talk to Krum once about the Triwizard Tourney.


Rather than quoting this to waste time, I jjust highlighted it:

Red: THose things were done more on accident than on purpose.

Blue: What past? Him stopping Voldy as a child? That is kkinda a good thing to acknowledge and Ron did acknowledge that quite a lot (For example, in the first year on the very first train to Hogwarts, he kinda went on and on about that.)

GReen/Lime: Well, he was rather pathetic, which Hermione goes on about in the 5 and 6 book. (Like the time he comes in all dirty from Quiditch practice) But he is no doubt a great and loyal friend.

Everything else is spectacularly written and I applaud it still with two thumbs up and a pat on the back.

[Wynn Notus]

Well, mostly I was trying to point out simple things, so I may have obscured a bit too much. Ron is Harry's friend, not because of Harry's past. THats what I meant. And yeah, Ron and HErmione have always bickered like a married couple. Someone else pointed out specific things in all the books for me. I mean come on, Hermione points out all of Rons mistakes, all the time. Ron always says things about her behind her back. So yeah, I've seen alot of married couples do these things.

Also, The sorting hat is never wrong. If Ron was as bad as you other people are saying, he'd be in Slytherin or Hufflepuff. :p

[orange peel]

Well, mostly I was trying to point out simple things, so I may have obscured a bit too much. Ron is Harry's friend, not because of Harry's past. THats what I meant. And yeah, Ron and HErmione have always bickered like a married couple. Someone else pointed out specific things in all the books for me. I mean come on, Hermione points out all of Rons mistakes, all the time. Ron always says things about her behind her back. So yeah, I've seen alot of married couples do these things.

Also, The sorting hat is never wrong. If Ron was as bad as you other people are saying, he'd be in Slytherin or Hufflepuff. :p

I'm not going against you as I said before. nor are most of the people here.

[Near]

Still, I find Ron to have way more bad qualities than good ones.

He isn't very loyal if you ask me.

J.K might try to make him look like a nice guy, but I only see a greedy guy who seeks attention.

I can't really answer about Hermione and Harry hanging out with Ron if he wasn't a good guy, because I can't really recall him being nice, maybe except the part where he "sacrifies" himself at the Chess game.

Also, Ron isn't so loyal at the 4th book, for example, when Harry get more famous.

Also, as stated above, what past and what acceptance, the fact that Harry lived with muggles? There are tons of people like him.

That his parents died fighting Voldemort? It's not something to be ashamed of.

Hard-working? Naw. Maybe in quidditch, but in school and stuff, he doesn't really work hard.
He isn't the bravest you might find, but I guess he is fine, because he doesn't refuse to do dangerous stuff, even though it scares him.

One last thing is, it's time people figure out that Slythering doesn't mean evil, bad, and all the bad qualities of a human, and Gryffindor being the elite, with all the good qualities.

J.K makes it look like Gryffindor are the gods, Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff are mere supporters and Slytherin are the devil.

But the sorting hat makes them all look good, he doesn't say anything bad about Slytherin, or anything too good about a certain house.

Also, I don't remember the Hat saying that greedy/jealous people go to Sytherin.

[LockDownOLD]

IMO Ron is a cool kid who wants to be good at something and not be in the shadow and SLYTHERIN ROX MI SOX!!!! but Rain Storm has very valid points and I give kudos and ambitious people go to Slytherin which basically means people who want to better themselves its on the edge of jealous they wont help anyone unless it benefits them while Gryffindors while doing what they think is right isn't always good Pettigrew was a Gryffindor he was doing what he thought was right in his twisted view of the world. I think Pettigrew is our reminder not all Gryffindors are good

[Wynn Notus]

Let me put this another way then. What house would you put Ron in? He isnt Hard Working, so not in Hufflepuff. He isn't all that bright, so not Ravenclaw. He doesn't try to be the best in school. He doesn't try to put people down (Unless its Malfoy). Besides, the fact that he does have courage and will do the dangerous life saving, scary things...proves he can't be a slytherin. Slytherin do have courage, but not nearly the amount of courage Ron has. Besides, the only requirements For being in Gryffindor are to be Courageous, and Loyal to your friends, and Ron has displayed both very well.

Not to be mean, just a little insightful. Breaker, Maybe you see yourself as Ron, but don't have the kind of friends he has. Maybe you are jealous. Maybe not. I'm just poking out a few theories.

[LockDownOLD]

Burn? I think so ^^ but Ron is a sure Gryffindor but not as sure as Harry cuz hes cooler ? ^^ but Ron really doesn't fit into any other house while Hermione could be a Ravenclaw or Gryffindor while Harry tends to shine thru for the best of all 4 houses then his stupid streak hits and there he goes Gryffindor.... Hes Hard Working He is bright in subjects and is ambitious and can be cunning at times so

[orange peel]

Finally some people have stopped goofing off and really put the topic to thought!

In fact, the most similar to Gryfinder has to be Slytherin. They have guts and everything like 'dem Gryfinders but they know when to run and aren't stupid enough to stand and fight a loosing battle. That's backed up by Sirius's relative (OMG, can't remember his name, you know, has a portrait in headmaster's room and another in Sirius's house?)

BTW, Sorting Hat almost decided to put Hermione in Ravenclaw. And wouldn't it be weird if Harry had made friends with Malfoy on the first day of Hogwarts and didn't hear about how Voldemort was in Slytherin from Ron.

[Green Koolaid]

Well, I just hate him.

He's always searching for being famous and attention.

It's because of him that at their 3rd year Harry & Ron didn't talk to Hermione.
At the 4th year he doesn't tak to Harry [at the beggining after Harry's name comes out of the Goblet], and why? because Harry was famous once again for something he didn't want.

As if it wasn't hard for Harry enough without Ron.

Also, why is he always so arrogant about other people romance life?
He annoys Ginny and get pissed because she goes out with boys.
He also annoys Hermione for going out with Krum.

He can also be very mean. Not to mention that he sort of abused Lavender to look as if he can get girls easily.

He is also very arrogant for fame. For example, the "Slug Club".
He annoys Harry and Hermione because he isn't invited to the club, because he isn't anyone special.

He's a mediocre at best Wizard, and is most of the time useless, he only causes trouble and problems between characters.

At the end, he suddenly goes out with Hermione after all the harassment she got from him.

I seriously hope J.K kills him at the end. He is a useless Wizard who only wants to be famous [as proven when he looks in the Mirror of Erised]

I will add more when I remember what I wanted to type :p

I would hardly qualify youre points as reasons to hate him. I hate the death-eaters and umbridge, now those are characters worthy of hatred. Also what is so wrong with wanting to be famous?

[orange peel]

I think you hate Ron just because he's useless if you view him overall but not as a person on the inside.

You just got to be true to your heart...

OK... WTF.

Ron is a normal boy who is clumsy and makes mistakes. He has some irritating qualities but has helped Harry over the years.

[Omega Ridley]

I don't really care about Ron. He's so emo, and he is afraid of spiders. Just listen to him whimper about EVERYTHING. Why can't he just be happy with his abilities and stop comparing himself with everybody else that's better than him? Whenever I hear people complain about Ron, I think of this Flash: http://thefifthdistrict.com/potter/

[Svchenko]

I don't see why you hate Ron. If there's any main character you should hate other than Voldemort, it is Harry, especially after how he acted in the fifth book.

Ron is a loyal friend, and that's about all there is to him. He is a typical teenager, not too emo [Harry], and not an overachiever [Hermoine]. He is not perfect, but then again, no one is.

And the 7 deadly sins thing... I can assure you that everyone commits each of the seven at least in one point in his or her life.

[orange peel]

I don't really care about Ron. He's so emo, and he is afraid of spiders. Just listen to him whimper about EVERYTHING. Why can't he just be happy with his abilities and stop comparing himself with everybody else that's better than him? Whenever I hear people complain about Ron, I think of this Flash: http://thefifthdistrict.com/potter/

Ok, that short movie on that link is just weird. It's funny at first but then it get's really awkward.

And right on, SvChenko.

[Techno 01]

He never shows his full protential IMO
He just rather complains about everyone and everything.
And horrified of spiders?

Nah, Dont like him. I prefere George and Fred

[orange peel]

He never shows his full protential IMO
He just rather complains about everyone and everything.
And horrified of spiders?

Nah, Dont like him. I prefere George and Fred

Ron looks up to Fred and George and is most like them. (But not incredibily like him...)

[Dekoy]

Ron = *****

Okay, so he was Harry's first friend and that was because he didn't treat him any different because Harry was famous. I mean, he knew of the fame, but he seemed to be fine with it. So either JK has purposefully changed Ron on purpose or it's just bad character development.

[orange peel]

Ron's just a normal kid. And since Harry's so famous, he gets jealous and all that other crap. If Ron was famous too, he wouldn't be like that. And didn't Harry throw that badge thing at Ron's forehead and yelled "There! Maybe you'll have a scar now!" when Ron was extremely jealous and started ignoring Harry?

[lunarfaze]

I am currently working my way through the 4th book after just finishing the first 3. Ron has his bad points (like so many characters do) but I do not hate him. I think he's that way (so far) b/c of early adolescence. He’s very human… most of the characters are. He can be somewhat annoying but so can Hermione.

Ron takes second wind to Harry all the time. That’s got to be difficult. However, Harry would not be nearly as strong if not for the friendship he has with Ron.