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Wildman94
06-11-2006, 02:00 PM
Needs: Treeborn Frog in Graveyard, King Tiger Wanghu on field(face-up), no s/ts on fiels
On your standby phase, Treeborn Frog comes back. King Tiger Wanghu activates, destroying it. Then, Treeborn Frog comes back again, and Wanghu destroys it again. It repeats forever.
What do you guys think about this loop?
Demidevil
06-11-2006, 02:09 PM
Why? Just why?
It doesnt do anything...and btw...thats an old one.
Wildman94
06-11-2006, 02:14 PM
Why? Just why?
It doesnt do anything...and btw...thats an old one.
it's old :confused: ? Also, it has pretty much no use, except for Mysterious Puppetier giving you infinite LP with it.
Xancalidon
06-11-2006, 02:18 PM
This + Card of Safe Return= New Exodia OTK
nosniv hsav
06-11-2006, 02:18 PM
it's old :confused: ? Also, it has pretty much no use, except for Mysterious Puppetier giving you infinite LP with it.
No guy, no...guy
Each time you or your opponent Normal Summons or Flip Summons a monster, increase your Life Points by 500 points.
pain_master212
06-11-2006, 02:18 PM
Card of Safe return could be good for this if it was legal.Treeborn cant be brought back if a magic or trap is on the field.
Xancalidon
06-11-2006, 02:19 PM
Never mind. That's impossible (I keep forgetting that!)
nosniv hsav
06-11-2006, 02:19 PM
This + Card of Safe Return= New Exodia OTK
.....guy
If this card is in your Graveyard during your Standby Phase and there are no Spell or Trap Cards on your side of the field, you can Special Summon this card to your side of the field. This effect cannot be activated if there is a face-up "Treeborn Frog" on your side of the field.
mukmuk369
06-11-2006, 02:22 PM
all loops like thet in yu gi oh that go on forever are banned antway it would have to resolve at on point and stay in the GY.
burntonapike
06-11-2006, 02:28 PM
Needs: Treeborn Frog in Graveyard, King Tiger Wanghu on field(face-up), no s/ts on fiels
On your standby phase, Treeborn Frog comes back. King Tiger Wanghu activates, destroying it. Then, Treeborn Frog comes back again, and Wanghu destroys it again. It repeats forever.
What do you guys think about this loop?
youd get kicked out of a tournament if you did that
Valcarde
06-11-2006, 02:30 PM
If “King Tiger Wanghu” is on the field when “Treeborn Frog” is Special Summoned, “Treeborn Frog” will be destroyed, but can be Special Summoned again with its effect during the same Standby Phase. Doing so without purpose is considered stalling and is a violation of Tournament Policy.
That right there sums it up.
Yami_Michael
06-11-2006, 06:22 PM
As stated previously, infinite loops are not allowed.
çosmos
06-11-2006, 06:55 PM
What's the point...?
duende29
06-11-2006, 08:26 PM
Is there any card that would benefit from this loop anyway?
çosmos
06-11-2006, 08:29 PM
Is there any card that would benefit from this loop anyway?
Not that I can think of :/
Micmac
06-11-2006, 08:38 PM
Infinate loops are legal as long as they serve a point.
The loop you suggest, does not, therefor, illegal.
MasterDeath
06-11-2006, 09:24 PM
youd get kicked out of a tournament if you did that
Lets see here. This would be called stalling right? Stalling is illegal and cause for you getting booted out of a tournament (literally speaking)
lordjar
06-11-2006, 09:44 PM
this will have some meaning when a monster has an effect that works when a monster is special summoned... till then... illegal... as everyone else has said.
Same thing will happen when your opponent activates DDV against you.
Ordyh
06-11-2006, 09:58 PM
its very old...and kinda useless =\
Red Syn
06-11-2006, 10:01 PM
If you have Mysterious Puppeteer out though, could you do this and gain like 10,000 LP? Or is that still illegal?
lordjar
06-11-2006, 10:04 PM
No guy, no...guy
Each time you or your opponent Normal Summons or Flip Summons a monster, increase your Life Points by 500 points.
I think that he answered your question...
Nobody reads anything anymore...
Gravekeeper Golem
06-11-2006, 10:06 PM
mine says normal summoned or special summoned (excluding flip summon)
EDIT: sorry, misread that. I thought you were referring to KTW. Ignore this post.
Red Syn
06-11-2006, 10:07 PM
Woops. Yeah, sorry about that. I never use Mysterious Puppeteer and couldn't remember the effect properly. I apologize. Oh well. Useless infinite loops are fun.
Each time you or your opponent Normal Summons or Flip Summons a monster, increase your Life Points by 500 points.
D a i b 3 n
06-12-2006, 12:44 AM
This is a illegal loop since there is no importance of this u can not stall with this for the win .
Hazen
06-12-2006, 12:53 AM
As stated previously, infinite loops are not allowed.
Infinite loops without purpose aren't allowed. if it does something then you can do it. Try something to get infinite life (wanted to use the puppeteer, but it doesn't work), combined with fire princess so you win.
anything like that and you can do it. it just has to have a purpose (other then stalling).
the_rabbit
06-12-2006, 02:21 AM
this will have some meaning when a monster has an effect that works when a monster is special summoned... till then... illegal... as everyone else has said.
Same thing will happen when your opponent activates DDV against you.
DDV only checks the field once, no?
Rabbit
Bakla Bandit
06-12-2006, 02:27 AM
mo cow mooooooo!
thats a waste of time..
kyoot
06-12-2006, 03:00 AM
since we are talking about loops is DMoC OTK not allowed???:confused:
the_fool
06-12-2006, 05:59 AM
there is a DMoC OTK with an infinite loop ???
UnKn0wn F3ar
06-12-2006, 06:06 AM
You probablly would have no chance of doing it, but the best thing I could see is to special summon or summon last turn a Cannon Soldier, play King Tiger Wangu, and then get Treeborn Frog in the grave. Then going through an opponent's turn while having no MT set special summoned Frog and then tribute for game. Of course you're opponent will probablly have other things in mind, especially if you used it game 1.
there is a DMoC OTK with an infinite loop ???
DMoC + Mass Driver/Cannon Soldier + Dimension Fusion + Spell Economics
You play DMoC. If you have one of those cards in the grave, get it back. Play Spell Economics and Mass Driver. Tribute DMoC, he's removed and your opponent takes 400. Play Dimension Fusion and special summon him. DMoC comes back and you get Dimension Fusion back.
kyoot
06-12-2006, 06:16 AM
DMoC + Mass Driver/Cannon Soldier + Dimension Fusion + Spell Economics
You play DMoC. If you have one of those cards in the grave, get it back. Play Spell Economics and Mass Driver. Tribute DMoC, he's removed and your opponent takes 400. Play Dimension Fusion and special summon him. DMoC comes back and you get Dimension Fusion back.
what he said ^
so this is official? and allowed in tourneys?
OmegaMan1144
06-12-2006, 06:32 AM
yes. notice that the illegal part of treeborn + KTW is that is has no purpose.
with DMoC combo, you're doing 400/500 dmg to your opponent every time you shoot it off with mass driver/cannon soldier...thats a purpose, so its legal.
if an infinite loop has no purpose, its just stalling, and is illegal.
kokki_lord
06-12-2006, 08:30 AM
fire princess+tiger+pupet+frog
nosniv hsav
06-12-2006, 12:50 PM
fire princess+tiger+pupet+frog
No guy, no...guy
Each time you or your opponent Normal Summons or Flip Summons a monster, increase your Life Points by 500 points.
How bout we all just brainstorm cards that benefit you when you S-Summon.
NO, not Card of Safe Return!
lordjar
06-13-2006, 10:14 PM
DDV only checks the field once, no?
Rabbit
No it doesn't, it checks throughout the turn of the affected player. If it checked once, it would be a pathetic card.
Lordjar
Johan192
06-13-2006, 10:21 PM
umm people this move is illegal u cant continuasly kill ur frog to stall out for time
BigMik
06-13-2006, 10:40 PM
so what would happen if you accidentaly played an infinite loop in a tourney? would you get booted? anyway you could talk your way out of this one?
it'd be lame if you lost a tourney cause of mistake like this :(
the_fool
06-14-2006, 02:24 AM
No it doesn't, it checks throughout the turn of the affected player. If it checked once, it would be a pathetic card.
Lordjar
ddv only checks the field and hand on activation
OrangeEyesRedDragon
06-17-2006, 11:34 AM
This thread is hilarious.
Satisfaction
06-18-2006, 11:06 AM
u would get a game loss, great loop
XvAtreyu20vX
06-18-2006, 11:15 AM
If this situation were to occur in a regional event of some sort, the judge would rule in favor of the person with King-Tiger. They would say you cannot special summon Treeborn Frog out of the graveyard. To prevent this kind of "loop" from happening.
Sup3rNo7a
06-18-2006, 11:25 AM
I think this thread can be locked now. It's been established - time and again - that an infinite loop that serves no purpose (which is the case here) is illegal. There's really nothing else to be said about this anymore.
iNick
06-18-2006, 07:29 PM
This + Card of Safe Return= New Exodia OTK
No treebone can only come back if there r no spell/traps on ur field...
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