New Help Thread (See 1st Post for Index!)

[Venusaur1]

thats so cool thanks alot SA!

[Venusaur1]

what are effort points and how much does 10 vitamins help the pokemons EV's?

[wobmaster]

EPs (effort points)are hidden values a poke gives you when you defeat it. 4EPs=1EV(effort value[effort level])

1 vitamin increases 10 EPs (2 1/2 EVs)so 10 increases 100 EPs (25 EVs)

dont you miss the part of the message board that tells you who is currently logged on? i like to see if there is anyone who might reply to me. currently, there is 1 logged on, (right now)(not when your reading this, when im writing it)but i dont know if he/she is capable of making an intellegent answer.

[shineyaltaria]

what are effort points and how much does 10 vitamins help the pokemons EV's?

I've already posted to you several times, on different threads including your own, that you need to read the Help thread's Trainer's Checklist. You have repeatedly asked question after question that has already been answered there.

This is the last time I'm going to mention this to you. I mean it. :mad:

[Venusaur1]

i read the hole EV thing

[Cooltrainer Josh]

How do you change the amount of posts on each page ?

[Venusaur1]

go to CP options its somewhere on that

[wobmaster]

Go to User CP, then on the left side of the screen, click on Options. scroll down and you'll see Number of Posts Per Page. Click on the drop down menu, then select the amount you want. Scroll to the bottom, then select Save Settings. Exit and re-enter the message board and the format will probably change.

[Venusaur1]

EPs (effort points)are hidden values a poke gives you when you defeat it. 4EPs=1EV(effort value[effort level])

1 vitamin increases 10 EPs (2 1/2 EVs)so 10 increases 100 EPs (25 EVs)

dont you miss the part of the message board that tells you who is currently logged on? i like to see if there is anyone who might reply to me. currently, there is 1 logged on, (right now)(not when your reading this, when im writing it)but i dont know if he/she is capable of making an intellegent answer.

Thankyou Wob

[wobmaster]

please learn about EVs we dont need another person starting EV topics...

[Venusaur1]

its difficult to learn all this at once even with the info right under your nose

[shineyaltaria]

dont you miss the part of the message board that tells you who is currently logged on? i like to see if there is anyone who might reply to me. currently, there is 1 logged on, (right now)(not when your reading this, when im writing it)but i dont know if he/she is capable of making an intellegent answer.

Go to the main page that lists all of the forums including the pokemon boards. At the bottom of that page you'll see a list of who is currently logged on.

If you look at a particular board, you'll be able to see the number of posters that are viewing that forum . I like that feature.

Edit: BT Challenge Update: Well I started breeding tonight. Who knows how long that'll take since I have to breed for all three pokemon. I was looking at all of the moves they can learn and this is going to be real tough. To think I'm actually trying to breed a killer Luvdisc. ROFL.

[Venusaur1]

Go to the main page that lists all of the forums including the pokemon boards. At the bottom of that page you'll see a list of who is currently logged on.

If you look at a particular board, you'll be able to see the number of posters that are viewing that forum . I like that feature.

Edit: BT Challenge Update: Well I started breeding tonight. Who knows how long that'll take since I have to breed for all three pokemon. I was looking at all of the moves they can learn and this is going to be real tough. To think I'm actually trying to breed a killer Luvdisc. ROFL.

Thats a nice feature tobad you cant see whose viewing that forum

[Cooltrainer Josh]

By the Rare Berry phrases, you said that the phrases using Lati@s are version-specific, while they can actually be used in the other version, as long as you've seen the other Lati@s(Southern Island/Trade).

[Venusaur1]

I noticed that iam missing a lot of words/phrases like in the trendy word box or in the "pokemon 2 " box. And some of the things to get rare berries

[shineyaltaria]

Some words are added to your vocabulary as you play the game, including some you need to get rare berries.

Edit: Hey venusuardude congrats on 1000! :D

[shineyaltaria]

By the Rare Berry phrases, you said that the phrases using Lati@s are version-specific, while they can actually be used in the other version, as long as you've seen the other Lati@s(Southern Island/Trade).

Is that all you found this time??? Sorry, only kidding, couldn't resist :p
Thanks once again Cooltrainer Josh. I'll make that correction.

[Venusaur1]

i dont get how i am missing a hole group of things (pokemon 2) Thats wierd that you would needto do soemthign certain just for a few words/ a hole group

[shineyaltaria]

I don't know what you mean by 'pokemon 2'. Are you saying there is a category called pokemon2 in the vocabulary for sayings? I only have the 'pokemon' category, and I've done everything in the game on that cart.

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Anyone else getting messages that there are some 'slight problems with the database' when they try to enter this site ot post sometimes? I've been getting that more and more and it is starting to get real annoying.

edit; I tried making this post like 25minutes ago but couldn't get past that darn 'slight problems' screen. :mad:

[Venusaur1]

That coems up atleast 20 times each day. Try refreshing on the page and/or refresh above your toolbar. Usually if this doesnt work I X out of the screen and re-open IE and then try it again.

And yes there is a Pokemon 2 category.

[Venusaur1]

Trendy Saying Groups
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Catergories

Pokémon
Trainer
Status
Battle
Greetings
People
Voices
Endings
Speech
Feelings
Conditions
Actions
Lifestyles
Hobbies
Time
Misc.
Adjectives
Event.
Move 1
Move 2
Tendy Saying
Pokémon 2


http://www.pokefor.tk/ (Proof)

[shineyaltaria]

I don't have the 'pokemon 2' group or the 'trendy saying' group either. My vocab list ends with the move1 and move2 sections.

[Venusaur1]

I don't have the 'pokemon 2' group or the 'trendy saying' group either. My vocab list ends with the move1 and move2 sections.

i just restarted my sapphire and beat the game in 2 days. This is the first time i have had move1 and move 2. But i do have trendy sayign which has knockout in it

[Venusaur1]

I have huge EV troubles

I got a beldum and i want to max out its attack. It is now level 8 because i trained it 3 levels. each battle was against either a wurmple or poochena to raise attack/defense. I have went aginst 32 wurmples. so 32 EP. /4=8EV's but no it doesnt work. Its attack was 12 at level 5. Now its attack is 15 at level 8. the attack increased by 3 stats after growing 3 levels. It should of went up by 8 but why doesnt it.When do i see the stats building up?

[Linzoy]

It just doesn't work that way, but it makes a big difference in the end. I raised by beldum to lvl 50 with rare candies before ev training, wrote down the stats, and shut it off without saving. When I finished its training there was a huge difference. I forget exactly what metagrosses attack was without training, but it was at least 20 points lower than what it is now.

[shineyaltaria]

The higher the level of your pokemon during EV training, the larger the increase you will see when it grows to the next level. It is normal to get double-digit increases once they get up to a higher level. It is even possible to get increases like +50 or more if you start to EV train at a really high level (like over Lv 80 or something).

So nothing is wrong. It's just the way it works.

BT Challenge update; I'm breeding for my luvdisc, nosepass, and shedinja now.

[Venusaur1]

So you find out the difference once its maxed?

[Linzoy]

You might want to add this somewhere... On all the lists of egg groups I've read, they have electrode and registeel in the same group (no eggs) but there should really be two groups for genderless pokemon; ditto group and legendary group. Most of the pokemon in the no eggs group can breed with ditto. Pokemon that can't breed with ditto: articuno, moltres, zapdos, mewtwo, mew, entei, suicune, raikou, lugia, ho-oh, celebi, regirock, regice, registeel, latios, latias, kyogre, groudon, rayquaza, deoxys, jirachi.

I've only tested ditto on metagross, solrock, mewtwo, celebi, lugia, registeel, and latios, but I think it's safe to assume my theory is right without testing every single genderless pokemon.

[Cooltrainer Josh]

Does anyone think HR is staying away becuse of the lack of the :evil Emoticon ?


Linzoy, do you mean Meta/Mag/Elec/Claydol wll breed With Ditto ? If so, it should definitely be listed.

[Venusaur1]

i agree with linzoy because i didnt even know that.

whose HR?

[Linzoy]

Linzoy, do you mean Meta/Mag/Elec/Claydol wll breed With Ditto ? If so, it should definitely be listed.

Yep.

HR is houndooms revenge. He frequented the old board and knew a lot of stuff.

[Venusaur1]

why are these pokemon called none if they can breed with ditto? Is this something Nintendo messed up on?

[Linzoy]

Nintendo messes up a lot, but I haven't seen any non-nintendo breeding charts that mentian ditto can breed with any non-legendary either. My guess is that everyone who challenged the idea that ditto can't breed with anything in the no eggs group tried a legendary, and when it didn't work they assumed none of the "no eggs" pokemon could breed. I just assumed ditto could breed with everything, without looking it up, and I wanted more beldums.

[Venusaur1]

i just always thought everything was breedable besides legendary pokemon

[Kuiper]

Babies aren't breedable. By that I mean the baby pokemon that were new in GSC. Smoochum, Magby, Igglybuff, Pichu, etc. cannot be bred.

[Venusaur1]

Babies aren't breedable. By that I mean the baby pokemon that were new in GSC. Smoochum, Magby, Igglybuff, Pichu, etc. cannot be bred.

yeh those are in the none group

[Venusaur1]

The trendy saying in My ruby finally changed to "Allowance Bath"

[shineyaltaria]

The trendy saying in My ruby finally changed to "Allowance Bath"

Do you know about how long it took to change or not? I'm trying to see if this is in any way predicatable.

Edit: BT challenge team update; I've got a decent Shedinja so I'm gonna EV train it now. Then I'll go back to continue the breeding for Luvdisc and Nosepass.

[Venusaur1]

around a week

[shineyaltaria]

A week?!?!? That long? Crap. It changed in 'only' 3 days for me I think.

Oh well, I guess that this is just one thing that we won't be able to predict. About the only helpful thing I found is that it doesn't seem to change twice within a day or so.

[Venusaur1]

You mean more then twice in a day auto or do you mean "you" cant change the saying more then twice

[shineyaltaria]

You can't seem to change it more than twice in a day. At least I haven't been able to. Trendy Dude will say he prefers the current saying instead. Also, I haven't seen it change twice in the same day automatically either.

[Venusaur1]

Had to dig this post up. I was able to get 3.

Ok i am a tiny bit confused for the most part i think im finding out the mystery here.

Today when i turned on ruby it was an auto phrase Age I've Arrived (they picked it) i changed it to "Azurill BodyGuard".I tried chaning it 8 timesthen i shut it off (withotu saving). I turned it back on went there again and the saying was Still "Age I've Arrived" i tried to change it to "abra aron" but it then said i personally like "Age I've Arrived" more. Then a few more tries then it accepted "Air Lock ALT. Color". -Im still working on this
-Now it let me do "Beatiful Beauty"
-Also "Apologize Appreciate"

My Theory is
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chose 2 words or phrases from each of the following topics:

Pokemon, status , greetings, voices, endings, conditions, lifestyle, time, adjectives, trainer, battle , people, speech, feelings, actions, hobbies, MISC., and trendy saying. I think the trendy saying coems from a random topic each time. So some1 please try this out because im 80% sure this works because i have run some tests and it worked for me. So pick 2 words for each topic and keep tryign to change them going in any order of topics if this is random out of those topics then maybe this will work.

[shineyaltaria]

The reason I was interested in this was for finding Feebas. I was thinking that if we could have a predicatable interval of time to do our search then that would be helpful (like if we knew it wouldn't change again for xx hours or xx days).

But I guess that regardless of how/when it changes, the best thing to do when trying to find Feebas is to change the saying before fishing and keep an eye on it to make sure it doesn't auto change until you've found the darn thing.

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I think pojo needs to get a new DBA. The one they have ain't makin it. These 'slight database problems' are getting more and more frequent. Very annoying.

[Venusaur1]

Its not getting better. When ever your doing a post you end up having to re-do it. Sometimes refreshing works. But most of the time it doesn't.

[wobmaster]

whenever there is a database problem i just log off.

[Venusaur1]

yeha thats usually when the forum goes from 15-0

[shineyaltaria]

BT Challenge team update: Well I finished training my shedinja. So now it is back to breeding to get the nosepass and luvdisc. I'm hoping I can at least get one of the two this weekend.

How is everyone else (Absol, Linzoy, wobmaster) doing with this?

[wobmaster]

grr. if ound out i had been EV training against the wrong pokes...back to breeding...do you know a pokemon that can successfully breed with a nose pass? i am not looking for a male. i'm glad mine is a female. ;)

[shineyaltaria]

Yeah, I am breeding mine with a male graveler that has explosion.

Got Graveler?

[Venusaur1]

grr. if ound out i had been EV training against the wrong pokes...back to breeding...do you know a pokemon that can successfully breed with a nose pass? i am not looking for a male. i'm glad mine is a female. ;)

sounds like my beldum but instead of EV training it against the wrong pokemon The iv's of what iam trying to maxout are somewhere between 1-14 (for both attack and defense)

[wobmaster]

SA, you shoould add how to get to southeren island to the eon ticket questions on the FAQ(post 5).there are so many topics on it, its driving me nuts!

[Venusaur1]

Its been found out howto do this.It should no longer be an issue.

[BusterBladerLord]

Could someone please tell me what Choice band is and where to get it? I haven't found such an item anywhere.

[wobmaster]

Choice band is in the BT after 42 wins+.

[shineyaltaria]

There is a list of locations for selected items. Just look in the table of contents to see where. (choice band is one of them along with the other BT prizes).

Many of you probably already know this but I'll say it again. I will not put anything having to do with helping cheaters on this thread. Neither will I start ranting again about how I am against cheating, even in games. So if you are a cheater, as far as I am concerned, you can go to one of the sites that specialize in that. 'nuff said.

BT Challenge update: I got a more or less decent Nosepass with IVs of 20-something in all stats and an Adamant nature. I named him "boogers". :p

[Linzoy]

Lol. I'm not making a lot of progress so far, I haven't even decided on the movesets I want, and I haven't started calcuating ivs. I used rare candies to get a random nosepass, shedninja, and luvdisc to level 50, and I'm trying different attacks with them. I can't make it past the first trainer, but I'm not surprized.

When I start training the pokemon I am actually going to use I'll train them all at the same time.

[wobmaster]

i'm about to check my newborn nosepasses IVs.

[shineyaltaria]

It takes me a while to get a decent one so when I finally do I stop breeding (it gets tiresome) and train. Now I'm trying, without any luck so far, to breed a decent luvdisc, with the hopes that I'll be able to train both the luvdisc and my Boogers at the same time.

Anyone know where Veteran Absol is? I haven't seen any posts by him for a while. Oh, I know---maybe he is locked away breeding and training his version of this team huh? lol.

[Absol]

sorry, I have been on vacation and I didnt have access to the internet... I didnt bring my GBA, and I didnt start breeding yet, but I did catch a lot of Nincada... I kept getting the same gender :x, but now I have a boy anda girl...

I dont know when I will get started on the rest of the team... I have a lot of stuff to do with school and everything...

[wobmaster]

well, i bred nosepass and i got a good one with 2 31s, 2 25s, and 2 15s in IVs so now im breeding luvdisk.

[shineyaltaria]

Looks like you and I will be first to try then, wobmaster. Absol and Linzoy have both checked in and it was good to hear from them. I finished training Boogers, and now I'm on the last part; trying to get a 'good' Luvdisc.

BTW, I was fighting the reporters to get up to Lv 50 and guess what? They stopped moving!!! You know how they go between the 3 locations? Well, for some reason, they are 'stuck' just below the desert area the last few times I battled them and they are NOT moving anymore. Maybe I fought them so many times that they're tired now LOL.

This ever happen to anyone else?

[wobmaster]

i havent battled them that much since i found out about EV training...

i havent even started to EV train them and ive only breeded nose pass SA! Im definetely not close to finishing. One reason is i lost my ruby for a couple days and only had sapphire and advance wars, lol, oops, but the good news is i found it now. :)

[Venusaur1]

Latios/Latias Question?


Does anyone here think it would help to go in a designated area for a few minutes then shut it off and turn it back on and try it again? Because Latios/Latias Change location every few seconds if you dont see it in teh first few wild pokemon its not there. And since its random its psosible it will just appear in that designated location?

[Absol]

they dont move based on time, they move when you enter a new route/town...

[Venusaur1]

Dangit. I tried everything i cant find this stupid latios!

[Absol]

just train and whatever... when you find him, just use the Masterball...

[Absol]

sorry for posting this here, if I posted it as a new topic, it would probably get deleted...

I was just looking at what place I was in for post count (11th btw) and Tyranitar's name wasnt in the top 10... I knew that he had enough posts to be higher on the list than me, so I knew something was wrong... I checked the T's and he wasnt listed! The only thing I can think of is that he was banned... I have a hard time believing that they would ban him... he doesnt post offensive things... maybe he got a ban for a stupid reason like how Ness was banned... I dont know...

WHAT HAPPENED TO TYRANITAR?!?!?!?!

[shineyaltaria]

I was going to PM him the other day but under his screenname it said he was being banned for a week so I decided to wait. That was a few days ago.

EDIT: and speaking of Ness, anyone know whats up with him?

[Absol]

I talked to Ness a while ago on AIM, but I dont think he is coming back...

[shineyaltaria]

Geez, that's too bad. And I don't think Good Sir HR will be signing in here either. Oh well.

But you never know. Maybe someday they'll change their minds. I hope they do. Maybe once some of the newer stuff like FR/LG comes out IDK.

EDIT: Anyone have an answer to my question about the reporters not moving between the 3 locations anymore?

Edit2: Nobody Knows about the reporters being stuck in one spot? If you do please post!

Lame Pokemon BT challenge update: Well Luvdisc #53 was my lucky one. She has very good IVs so I'm starting to train her and then it's off to the BT. I will keep a record of the battles just for grins.

[Venusaur1]

They have always rotated for me



Latios Question

Does any1 think if i look for him in mosedeep dont see him go to route 24 then see if hes tehre ? Then continue this pattern since it is only one step away?

[LigerZeroZager]

Maybe after you beat them a certain amount of times they stop moving. I've never had them stop on me.



With Latios search for him in your pokedex and follow him around. I kept finding Latias that way.

[shineyaltaria]

Maybe after you beat them a certain amount of times they stop moving. I've never had them stop on me.

That's my guess too but I really don't know. Still, it is definately a glitch. I'm hoping someone knows about it and will post.

[wobmaster]

probably a glitch...

well, i found out that you can only get explosion as an egg move on nosepass, so im right where i started, exept for the fact that i now have 5 nosepass... back to breeding with everyone... :(

right...can golem learn explosion? geodudes are rare and i dont want to catch another if i dont have to...

and does anyone know the formula for determining IVs? i dont feel like waiting for pokefor to come back up...

[shineyaltaria]

I caught a male graveler on Victory Road (rock smash) and it was like lv 38 or something and then I raised it until it had both EQ and Explosion, then bred it with a female Nosepass. Both moves were passed. Explosion came in real handy too.

Main Statistic Formula:
Stat = Math.Floor(
(( BaseStat * 2 + IV + Math.Floor( EV/4 ) ) * Level/100 + 5 ) * P )

HP Statistic Formula:
HP uses a slightly different formula. To calculate your Pokémon's HP at any given time, use this formula:

HP =( BaseStat * 2 + IV + Math.Floor( EV/4 )) * Level/100 + 10 + Level)

IVs Formula for AT, DF, SpDf, SpAt, SP
Here is the formula for calculating your IV given the base stat, the actual value of the statistic, the effort value and the personality value (for non-HP stats). All you have to do is plug in the values.

IV =(( Math.Ceiling( Stat/P ) - 5 ) * 100/Level ) - 2 * BaseStat - EV/4


IVs Formula HP
Here is the formula for calculating the HP IV.

IV = (( Stat - Level - 10 ) * 100/Level ) - 2 * BaseStat - EV/4

Edit: Both Golem and Graveler learn Explosion at Lv 53, and EQ at Lv 45.

[Kuiper]

That's my guess too but I really don't know. Still, it is definately a glitch. I'm hoping someone knows about it and will post.

Did you get the Jirachi disk and have your game cleansed? Because it might be another of those time-related issues. If that isn't it, it's probably a glitch unique to your cart. Maybe you could contact Nintendo about that problem.

[wobmaster]

thanks for that SA! i had to re catch geodude anyway, my golem was male...

um what site gives basestats?

[shineyaltaria]

You're always welcome, wobmaster. I usually go to the upnetwork.net (note it's '.net' not '.com') pokedex since it has both base stats and breeding paths (plus all the usual pokedex stuff). So you can give that site a try.

Best of luck to you with your 'weak pokemon' challenge team! I hope you beat the 35 wins that I got!

[shineyaltaria]

Did you get the Jirachi disk and have your game cleansed? Because it might be another of those time-related issues. If that isn't it, it's probably a glitch unique to your cart. Maybe you could contact Nintendo about that problem.


Thanks for your response, Fallen Ronin. No, no disk, and never any cheating or sharking either. The only thing I ever did other than just play regular was last summer when the Nintendo staff loaded in the Eon ticket so I could catch Lati@s. It was a special promotion with ToysRus. So yeah, it is a glitch of some kind. I don't really give a sh$t since it is on my sapphire cart and I restart that like all the time. But it sure is strange and that's why I posted about it---to see if anyone else has had that happen. Looks like I'm the only one... :(

Got Company?

[wobmaster]

Main Statistic Formula:
Stat = Math.Floor(
(( BaseStat * 2 + IV + Math.Floor( EV/4 ) ) * Level/100 + 5 ) * P )
should i use this formula, and if so, do i use the stat in place of IV?

HP Statistic Formula:
HP =( BaseStat * 2 + IV + Math.Floor( EV/4 )) * Level/100 + 10 + Level)
same thing:do i lugin the stat in IV?

IVs Formula for AT, DF, SpDf, SpAt, SP
IV =(( Math.Ceiling( Stat/P ) - 5 ) * 100/Level ) - 2 * BaseStat - EV/4
should i use this formula, or the first one?

IVs Formula HP
IV = (( Stat - Level - 10 ) * 100/Level ) - 2 * BaseStat - EV/4
this one or the one above?

sorry, but i got a bit confused(wobmaster hurt himself in his confusion)

[shineyaltaria]

It depends on what you are calculating.

If you want to figure out IVs then use the correct IVs Formula. For AT, DF, SpDf, SpAt, SP just use:
IV =(( Math.Ceiling( Stat/P ) - 5 ) * 100/Level ) - 2 * BaseStat - EV/4

For HP IVs, use the other IVs formula.

I included the stats formulas just in case you may need that too.
Math Floor and Math Ceiling are for rounding results.

All of this, including detailed explanations and examples of using them, is in the Advanced Trainer's Guide on the pokefor.tk site.

Edit: Wobmaster snapped out of confusion :D

[wobmaster]

i think id better go to pokefor then because someone mustve used confuse ray and i got IVs of 3000...thanks for the help anyway...

and 'P' is personality value, right?

edit:found my mistake:

((ceiling(stat /P)-5)*100/level)-2*basestat-EV/4

at the

)*100/level)

part, i was dividing 100 by level instead of doing

*100)/level

those darn parinthsis tricked me...

edit2- wobmaster used counter

crobat(or whatever uses confuse ray) fainted! XD

[Noelor]

I thought I would contribute this, as I haven’t found it anywhere and recently compiled them to help my own EV training: EV training teams (for trainers in Secret Bases)

STAT
Pokemon: Effort given (cant remember if this is Level or points, got it off of upnetwork.net, if that helps)

HP
Azumarill: 3
Exploud: 3
Wigglytuff: 3
Slaking: 3
Walrein: 3
Jirachi: 3 / Lanturn: 2

Attack
Mightyena: 2 / Blaziken: 3
Shiftry: 3
Machamp: 3
Machoke: 2 / Swampert: 3
Salamence: 3
Breloom: 2 / Groudon: 3

Defence
Pelipper: 2
Graveller: 2
Golem: 3
Aggron: 3
Metagross: 3
Regirock: 3

Special Attack
Beautifly: 3
Gardevoir: 3
Alakazam: 3
Vileplume: 3
Kadabra: 2 / Kyogre: 3
Magneton:2 / Latios: 3

Special Defence
Dustox: 3
Ludicolo: 3
Bellosom: 3
Regice: 3
Tentacruel: 2 / Latias: 3
Grumpig: 2

Speed
Medicham: 2 / Sceptile: 3
Raichu: 3
Swellow: 2
Ninjask: 2
Golbat: 2
Crobat: 3

[shineyaltaria]

They are effort points, not levels.

Every 4 effort points = 1 effort level resulting in a 1 point increase in a stat.

[Kuiper]

They are effort points, not levels.

Every 4 effort points = 1 effort level resulting in a 1 point increase in a stat.

Actually, it's an increase of (EV/4)*level/100, if I am not mistaken. You couldn't feed a level five Pokemon ten vitamins and expect a 25 point increase. It DOES EVENTUALLY equal an increase of EV/4 at level 100, but if you're stopping at level 50 for BT, you'll only get half of that.

[shineyaltaria]

That's correct.

I just wanted to make the distinction between EPs and EVs since he was wondering what exactly you get for battles.

EDIT: This 'slight database problem' stuff has been getting worse and worse. I'm getting very frustrated trying to post sometimes since I'll type something in but then lose it. I logged in before and then the site went down and I couldn't get back in here for a long time. Maybe I have to be more patient since the site is relatively new, IDK.

[wobmaster]

That's correct.

I just wanted to make the distinction between EPs and EVs since he was wondering what exactly you get for battles.

EDIT: This 'slight database problem' stuff has been getting worse and worse. I'm getting very frustrated trying to post sometimes since I'll type something in but then lose it. I logged in before and then the site went down and I couldn't get back in here for a long time. Maybe I have to be more patient since the site is relatively new, IDK.

you said it, SA. half the time i type a message, the database screws up... if you are reading this, it didnt screw up. if your not, then, well, it did...

whoa, WTF!! my sig is gone! what happened to it?

there, i got a new sig. you likie?

[Noelor]

thanx 4 that great helper SA, i actually just found that myself by entering the points into pokefor's IV calc and getting no speed IV (thats blank, not 0)
EDIT: um, i probably just mucked up, but having divided all the effort values by 4, i actually managed to get all blank EVs!!! so i guess ill just do it again, i was only wondering if, when u say that doing levels lower thatn 12 gives bogus results, does that mean start at at least level 12, or finish at at least 12?

[shineyaltaria]

The higher the level of your pokemon, the more accurate the results from the IV caluculator. According to the Advanced Trainer's Guide, your results won't be very reliable for pokemon until they are Lv 12 or higher.

As far as entering your EVs here's an example: If you maxed out Speed with 252 effort points then you would put "63" in the speed effort values column (252 divided by 4 = 63). Hope that helps.

Be sure to enter the correct pokemon and nature too!

[Noelor]

thanx, i think ill just start again for that Torchic, too bad as it was a female :( but i think it should be OK, ill just be extra careful with the EVs this time

[Cooltrainer Josh]

You said the reporter glitch is on a cartridge you continually restart, right ?
Have you tried restarting the cart and seeing if the glitch is still in effect ?

P.S. It's Wynaut, not Wynuat. (How do I get Pokemon X section.)

[shineyaltaria]

You said the reporter glitch is on a cartridge you continually restart, right ? Have you tried restarting the cart and seeing if the glitch is still in effect ?

No. I've played the game at least 6 or 7 times on this cart but never saw this glitch before. The difference is I fought the reporters a lot more times in this game compared to previous games, so maybe that has something to do with it. My guess is that if you battle them a certain number of times, they stop moving between locations.

I haven't been playing lately but maybe I'll restart and see what happens just for grins. Everything should be reset and they should move again. I think that getting the glitch to repeat might be the hard part.

[RareHunterX]

i checkeed IV's for stats on latias...and i got some 0's for some of them..ig i give the details can somone double check them?

[wobmaster]

i checkeed IV's for stats on latias...and i got some 0's for some of them..ig i give the details can somone double check them?

for some reason people get bad IVs on their lati@s...

[RareHunterX]

okay....but can u check all the same...

[wobmaster]

well...you kinda didnt give us the stats, EVs, and level so i cant see how we can check...

well, i'm not proggressing much on the team...i'm training graveler to get breed moves, and keeping zigs so i can get RCs to pinpoint Ivs when i start breeding again...

[shineyaltaria]

i checkeed IV's for stats on latias...and i got some 0's for some of them..ig i give the details can somone double check them?

Be aware that almost all the Lati@s I've caught have absolutely lame IVs, with most having as many as 4 IVs of zero. IDK why this is but it is true. And I've seen other posters say the same so it isn't just my cart. So there is every reason to think you actually did things right. Just because you get lower numbers than you'd ever seen before, it doesn't mean you are wrong. Fact is you probably checked it right. But if you still want, I'll double check the IVs for you. You'll need to PM me all of the data.

[shineyaltaria]

I'm thinking of doing another update sometime later this month, so if anyone has an idea to add something that would be helpful, just post.

Got Ideas?

[wobmaster]

maybe a list of special attacks and phis attacks, or a referral to certainsite s to get cetain info?

[Cooltrainer Josh]

I'm thinking of doing another update sometime later this month, so if anyone has an idea to add something that would be helpful, just post.

Got Ideas?

Tip:Before you go to bed, save in front of the Lottery Woman in the Department Store. In the morning, if you don't win, just restart without saving and you'll get a different number every time you restart ! Keep restarting until you win.

Also, I'm sorry to say this, but shiny is spelled without an 'e'. Don't start a new account because of that though, unless you keep this one, because if you do, you won't be able to edit this Help Thread.

[shineyaltaria]

wobmaster; Ok, I'll include that in the next update. Thanks for the suggestion.

Cooltrainer Josh; I'll put in that Tip too. You are right about the spelling. I decided to just keep it the same as my old pojo account when I registered for this board.

The words 'shine', 'shined', and 'shines' all have the 'e', but inexplicably the word 'shiny' drops it. Also, shininess is correct (they turn the 'y' into an 'i') and the past tense of shine can also be 'shone'.

Oh, one other thing. Believe it or not the word 'poopie' is also not in the Dictionary...yet. LOL

Got Webster?

[wobmaster]

Tip:Before you go to bed, save in front of the Lottery Woman in the Department Store. In the morning, if you don't win, just restart without saving and you'll get a different number every time you restart ! Keep restarting until you win.

Also, I'm sorry to say this, but shiny is spelled without an 'e'. Don't start a new account because of that though, unless you keep this one, because if you do, you won't be able to edit this Help Thread.
what? i tried to manipulate the lottery and it didnt work for me.

[Noelor]

maybe you saved it before the lottery, but did it the same day, so the game saved what it was for that day, as opposed to Josh's way, in which it is generating a number for the day each time you restart due to it not having been saved before that
i think thats it, sorry if its too much writing
oh, and are there any Secret Bases that can be accessed without using Surf or Rock Smash? :confused:

[wobmaster]

you confused me again(wobmaster hurt himself in his confusion)

um, yes, there are several, like the ones on rt 110,114, 120 that can only be accesed w/ surf, and there are several on rt 114 that you need rock smash for .

[Noelor]

so is that a yes or a no? just to clarify, i meant are there any you can get to before you beat Wattson

[wobmaster]

oh... soory, didnt see without... um... if you can get secret power on a poke(from trading, etc) before getting the TM, then yeah, there are several. I specifically remember one in the blackglasses place, and one near rock tunnel

[Cooltrainer Josh]

what? i tried to manipulate the lottery and it didnt work for me.

Perhaps your day doesn't change while it is nighttime. It may change at, for example, 2:00 P.M. Try saving in the morning and Lottery picking in the afternoon. The problem is that you won't be able to save before afternoon.
Check your game's time in relation to real time to see when the day changes.

[Noelor]

thanks Wob, i was trying to work it out so that i could get a reliable Attack EV training ground for the Torchic im breeding ASAP w/ my bros Camerupt (RockSlide) then through-game training (im thinkin HPBug, BB, EQ & RS, what do you think?)

[Absol]

bulk up or overheat over hp bug...

it will be really hard to get hp bug...

[shineyaltaria]

Just so you know, I haven't been able to get in here for the last few nights, and now it looks like they made it so there is no lurking any more (we have to login even just to view). Maybe they had to change that in order to fix the 'slight' database problems who knows. Anyway, I still plan on doing an update but at this point haven't scheduled it yet.

[Noelor]

thanks Absol, i also realized that after 18 Torchic eggs, only 1 of which was adamant, if that one has HPBug then im very lucky, if not i was actually thinking Focus Punch, since most of the people i battle have pure sweeper perties and just switch when something they dont like comes along. thats why my Grovyle has Pursuit, as will Houndoom
EDIT: i replaced the starters and legendaries in my EV training Secret Base teams with (less giving) alternatives

[shineyaltaria]

Well today I got the collosseum bonus disc. It has a preview of Collosseum and it looks pretty good. There's also a preview of the new movie and a 'special gift' of Jirachi. I don't have the GBA/Gamecube cable though and we need it to get Jirachi from the disc onto R/S. My regular GBA/SP link cables don't fit the gamecube so it looks like I'll have to get the GC/GBA cable too. Oh well.

Got Cables?

Edit: Good Sir HR, it is inspiring to see you posting again!

[Noelor]

Got Cables?

iv already got some for Final Fantay, but the chances are that you will need a cable to get your pkmn on Colloseum, and the Colloseum pkmn (Houndoom!) onto your GBA cart, so its not like youll be wasting money or anything

[shineyaltaria]

You're right, Prolific Inventor Noelor, it won't be a waste of money. I've never played any pokemon games on GC though (only a little Windwaker and Tony Hawks underground) so I'm kind of looking forward to it since it'll be so different than just playing on the GBA or SP.

Do you or anyone think it would be a good idea to start a Help section for Collosseum here--- maybe using one of the 'reserved' posts on page 1? (I'm not talking the whole game, just the part thats going to work with R/S)

[Noelor]

Great Idea, Great Helper SA! :D !
once i can find the EVs for the Colloseum pkmn, i might also do redrafts of those teams, if necessary

[Noelor]

this probably sounds stupid, but i never have done EV training before, does the MachoBrace effect Vits? cos i can only afford 5 Proteins :( (early-ish game)

[shineyaltaria]

this probably sounds stupid, but i never have done EV training before, does the MachoBrace effect Vits? cos i can only afford 5 Proteins :( (early-ish game)

Last night I made this long reply to you, hit submit, and then the site went down! :mad:

Anyway, macho brace doubles effort points. Vitamins give 10 effort points each. The thing is that you want to give vitamins first since your pokemon won't eat them after you get 100 effort points in a stat. So vitamins cut down on your training time. If you didn't give any you could just battle and still reach the cap (it would just take longer).

Remember that Zigs (zigzagoons) can pick up valuable things, including proteins and nuggets, so you may want to always keep several in your party.

I had one of my pokemon hold the macho brace to see if it would still eat 10 vitamins (100 effort points) and it did. So holding it does not double the effect of the vitamin.

Edit: I found out that if you fight the reporters enough (like 500 times) they will 'freeze' in one spot and stop moving between the 3 locations anymore (but you can still battle them over and over). Thanks to Good Sir HR for this info. So it wasn't just my cart. It's just what will happen in the game.

Also, I've played around with this "Alt Color ______" thing to see if I can get another Shiny but so far haven't had any luck at all. If anyone else has tried this on this board please post results here. Thanks. SA.

[Noelor]

thanks SA, didnt think it would, but with only the 5, i couldnt be sure
oh, and i dont think i even have the Alt.Color phrse availabl to me, could be wrong though

[Cooltrainer Josh]

You can note this if you like. I checked (against the reporters with a Linoone),
and Choice Band does not effect Special Attacks. If you ask me, that's unfair...

[Sashiwa]

Where are the 6 tiles for Feebas?

[shineyaltaria]

Cooltrainer Josh; Yeah I saw that about it only being physical on serebii site too (I think in the new LG/FR section somewhere).

Sashiwa; The 6 tiles are random. They change randomly, based on you changing the trendy saying in Dewford town. Also, the 6 tiles can just be changed randomly on its own after a certain period of time goes by (like a few days). If you ever find a tile with Feebas, catch as many as you can (minimally get a female or two for breeding).
It can take hours and hours just to fnd one of the tiles and takes a great deal of patience unless you just happen to luck out.

Got Patience?

Got PokeBalls?

Got Aspirin?

[Betelgeux]

They're randomly selected each time you change the trendy phrase on Dewford Island. You just have to fish in each of the squares on Route 119 until you find one. Once you do, be sure to get a female one to save yourself the trouble of searching again.

EDIT: Server is too busy... guess I was beaten to it.

[shineyaltaria]

Well I traded in few really old GB color games for a GBA to GC link cable but the store ran out because of Final Fantasy. Anyway I should have it in a week or so and then will get Jirachi.

And this is the week Colloseum finally comes out I think but I don't know if I'll be able to get it right away. Anyone who does get it and wants to provide info for the new Colloseum/R/S section of this Help thread go right ahead and post. Your info should be specific to how colloseum works with R/S.

I'll do the next update probably in a couple weeks.

[Sashiwa]

Absol, where are the location of the 6 tiles for Feebas?

[shineyaltaria]

Absol, where are the location of the 6 tiles for Feebas?

Sashiwa, I just answered this question for you already so why are you asking Absol!!!!! Didn't you see the reply?

[Venusaur1]

I have battled Bug Maniac Brandon like 2-3 times. Not 5. Your suppose to battle him 5 times in order to get the silver powder held item. I have been waiting more then a month to battle him again in my sapphire version. Its getting annoying because I know there has to be something I need to do because no trainer will take a month atleast to battle you. Please help me on how to get him to re battle me!!!!!!

[shineyaltaria]

Did you know that your answer is already on this Help thread? See below--- And you may want to go and check out the other known errors/misprints. It won't take more than 90 seconds to do but could save you a lot of time and aggravation.

Official Guide & Prima Guide: Errors/Misprints
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
This section refers to "The Official Nintendo Player's Guide".

A - Obtaining items after 5th battle – The guide states you can get several items after the 5th time you battle a specific trainer, but this is wrong. You have to steal the item using either covet or thief. The items are Black Belt on Rt 114 from Blackbelt Nob, Dragon Fang in Meteor Falls from Dragon Tamer Nicolas, and Silver Powder on Rt 120 from Bug Maniac Brandon.

[SaneHuman]

I've got a few questions about Jirachi's Serene Grace ability. I understand that it will make attacks like Water Pulse have a doubled chance of their added effects, ie confusion or paralysis, or boosting or lowering a stat, ie psychic and lowering spdef. But what about attacks with a high critcal hit rate (i dont think Jirachi has any, but what about regular critical hits?) Or items that give added bonuses, such as the king's rock? Will the chance of flinch be upped to 20? What about the Scope Lens?

Thanks in advance.

[shineyaltaria]

Hmmm, good question. I finally got a Jirachi now but haven’t trained it or played with it yet, but maybe someone around here had and knows the answer to your question.

My guess is that the ability works regardless of what item is held, and the effect of the hold item also remains. This would mean we could possibly boost any effect where a move and a hold item work to do the same thing. Like having a move like Double Team or sand attack while also holding an item that lowers accuracy (or ups evasion) for example. There are probably better examples but you get my drift. Again, it’s only a guess (sorry).

Got Serene Grace?

[shineyaltaria]

The next update will be about trading between R/S and Colosseum. There is a lot less to this than I thought would be at first so it shouldn't be a very long section.

I plan on doing this in the next few days.

=============

Did anyone ever take the Luvdisc/Shedinja/Nosepass BT challenge besides me?

If so, please post (or send me a PM). There were several of you who said you were working on putting together that team but I didn't see anyone post how they did (maybe I missed it though, if so just let me know). Thanks.

[Gamefreak]

I could help you make a help section with colleseum if you like, btw SA, Im back, Nice to see you again

[shineyaltaria]

Hi Gamefreak. It's good to see you too LOL. I am not going to put together a help thread for Colosseum but if you want to then go ahead. To be honest, I've had mixed feelings about how this one turned out.

I'll be updating it soon with info on trading between R/S and Colosseum and will put the new stuff in Post 9, which I reserved just for this purpose a while ago.

Post 10 (the last post) is reserved for FR/LG related stuff (if any). Anyone know when the FR/LG games will be out in the States? I saw one post saying September but couldn't find any verificatoin of that.



EDIT: I just added the new stuff. It's in post 9 for anyone who wants to take a look. SA

[Kuiper]

I think when FR/LG are released, Pojo will put up a new forum, so it'd probably be best for someone put up a new help thread there, (please don't feel obligated to do this yourself, shineyaltaria) and maybe overlapping stuff applying to both games (like IVs, EVs, etc.) could be posted in a different section, while in this help thread you might explain how to transfer, etc.

BTW, how do you get the National 'dex in RS? Because after transfering over COlloseum Pokemon, I didn't get any info for the 'dex, and it still says I only own 201. Has anyone else encountered this problem? Just wondering.

[shineyaltaria]

Fallen Ronin; Not sure about the National 'Dex, but I have seen some posters mention how to get it (on the old board) so maybe one of them will see your question and post. If not, you may want to just start a new topic since I'm pretty sure someone 'round here should be able to help.

Anyone know when FR/LG is due for release in the U.S.?

[Kuiper]

I think Venusaur1 said it'd be due around September, though I'm not sure about that.

[shineyaltaria]

I'm not sure either. I checked on serebii.net which seems to have the most FR/LG info but it doesn't have any release date info (unless I missed it). Wonder where Venusaur got the September date from. Hopefully he'll see this and post. Thanks anyway, Fallen Ronin.

Got Dates?

[Cooltrainer Josh]

You may want to add this. If you only have one Pokemon that knows Dive, if you release it the game will say ''Pokemon's Name came back ! Was it worried about you ?''.

Also, 'Regi' is a Latin root meaning King. Thus, Ice King, Rock King, and Steel King, or King of Rock/Ice/Steel.

[shineyaltaria]

I just added a message at the top of the Page 1 about using this Help thread. Hopefully this will encourage some of the posters to look here for their answers before starting a "new" question. They may not have realized that even though this thread is like 33 pages long, that they only have to look at/search Page 1 for Help/Reference.

Cooltrainer Josh; I do not anticipate adding or changing much on this Help thread, with the exception of adding helpful info related to how R/S works with the new games (pokemon Colloseum in post #9 and maybe FR/LG in post #10 if needed.)

[TyranitarsShadow]

FR/LG is out on September 9th in the US.

[BarnebyJones]

You CAN get dusclops in sapphire.

duskull is extremely rare in mt.pyre on the top level

[bishpenguin]

duskull aint rare..

its a .10 chance of running into one on the upper levels of mt. pyre and on the summit its a .13 chance... if you compare it to the .02 chance of running into a chimecho, duskull aint rare.

btw cooltrainer josh,
i released my wailmer and it didnt have dive, and it came back to me with the same phrase. explain that. i think that any poke that:
a) loves you;
b) keep in your team often; and/or
c) use as an hm slave,
will come back.

[Cow Goes m00]

btw cooltrainer josh,
i released my wailmer and it didnt have dive, and it came back to me with the same phrase. explain that. i think that any poke that:
a) loves you;
b) keep in your team often; and/or
c) use as an hm slave,
will come back.

d)knows a HM move that nobody else on your team/ in any of your boxes knows.

[bishpenguin]

once i released my tropius, (it was the only one that knew fly, but it never came back). i dunno about that. maybe its random...

[shineyaltaria]

I've never had one come back yet but then again I don't usually do a lot of releasing either.

Does anyone have any R/S/Colosseum stuff they'd like added to post 9? I was thinking it might make sense to list the pokemon that can be traded from COL to R/S. Whatdaya think?

[TyranitarsShadow]

Espeon-from start
Umbreon-from start
Makuhita
Bayleef
Quilava
Croconaw
Misdreavus
Slugma
Noctowl
Flaffy
Skiploom
Quagsire
Furret
Yanma
Remoraid
Mantine
Qwilfish
Dunsparce
Meditite
Swablu
Sudowoodo
Plusle-not shadow
Hitmontop
Entei
Ledian
Suicune
Gligar
Sneasel
Piloswine
Stantler
Ariados
Aipom
Murkrow
Forretress
Granbull
Vibrava
Raikou
Sunflora
Delibird
Heracross
Skarmory
Miltank
Absol
Houndoom
Tropius
Metagross
Tyranitar
Smeargle
Ursaring
Shuckle
Togetic

There you go. I'll add locations, levels, and trainers later. I'll probably eventually add attacks shadow pokes start with.

[shineyaltaria]

Woah! That was good of you to put together TyranitarsShadow. I think this is fine by itself so if you want I'll just put it in there as is. But if you really prefer to add the other stuff first then I'll wait until you're ready. Your choice. Just let me know.

And thanks! I think this will be very helpful!

EDIT: OK, Done! Any other suggestions for the new sections just post.

[TyranitarsShadow]

You can put it up the way it is now.

[Cooltrainer Josh]

btw cooltrainer josh,
i released my wailmer and it didnt have dive, and it came back to me with the same phrase. explain that. i think that any poke that:
a) loves you;
b) keep in your team often; and/or
c) use as an hm slave,
will come back.


I don't know about that. I believe it's only if he has Dive and no-one else does. Try this:Save, then catch a Tentacool and teach it Dive. Then, release all your other Pokemon with Dive. Try to release Tentacool now, and I'd bet all my 'Whatever currency is used in Pokemon land' that it won't go. And it's only Dive, not Fly, so Tropius not coming back doesn't surprise me in the least.

[shineyaltaria]

I noticed that we do not have Jirachi in the Dual-type weakness/resistance 'chart'. It is dual type of Steel/Psychic.

Anyone know for sure what the weakness and resistance info is for Jirachi so I can add it into the chart?

[Noelor]

the same as Metagross, unless Metagross has Levitate (never used it myself, probably will when i get Colloseum though)

[Kuiper]

Ground and Fire.

[shineyaltaria]

Ok, Ground and Fire it is for the weaknessess.

Any resistances? I was thinking it should be pretty resistant to psychic, right?

[Kuiper]

Dual resistance to Psychic, regular resistance to Flying, Rock, Dragon, Ice, amd Steel, and immunity to poison.

[shineyaltaria]

Thanks, Fallen Ronin. I'll add the info to the end of post #8 now.

[shineyaltaria]

Anyone know what's up with Meowth's site? I get an 'access forbidden' message when I try going there both yesterday and today.

Edit: If his site remains unavailable I may decide to grab the formulas again (I got them somewhere) and post them again like on the old board for anyone who needs to calc IVs.

[Kuiper]

I just checked and got on okay, the IV calculator is working for me, so you might want to check again. Maybe its your ISP or something.

[bishpenguin]

I don't know about that. I believe it's only if he has Dive and no-one else does. Try this:Save, then catch a Tentacool and teach it Dive. Then, release all your other Pokemon with Dive. Try to release Tentacool now, and I'd bet all my 'Whatever currency is used in Pokemon land' that it won't go. And it's only Dive, not Fly, so Tropius not coming back doesn't surprise me in the least.

well.. the wailmer i had that i released had this.. rock smash, strength and surf... no dive.. yet it came back. so i dont think that your theory about dive works. btw i did your tentacool thing, it doesnt work....

[shineyaltaria]

Thanks, Fallen Ronin, I just tried again and got in. Looks like he's redesigned the whole site again (he does this regularly).

I caught a shiny Sableye (modest female) two nights ago and wanted to check its IVs before I did anything with it. I've seen it posted that shinies have all IVs of 21 or something and wanted to check that out. (This is the first shiny I've run into and caught since like last summer when I first started playing R/S but then I didn't know about IVs yet and I trained my shinies without ever checking their IVs).

What I found was that the 'shinies have all the same IVs' is NOT true. Here's what I got out of the IV calc at pokefor:

My shiny Sableye's stats and IVs are:
HP=119 iv=28,29
AT=74 iv=13,14
DF=90, iv=28,29
SA=86 iv=25,26
SD=74 iv=14,15
SP=67, iv=30,31

I believe that it is still true IVs determine shininess in some way, but the actual IVs are not all the same number for each stat, like I have seen posted, at least for this particular shiny pokemon.

[Kuiper]

Yeah, in RS, IVs and shinyness work indepentantly of each other. In GSC, shiny Pokemon all had DVs of 10, which is why you couldn't breed two shinies (the system assumed they were related and relations couln't breed) and a shiny Ditto increased your chances of getting shiny offspring.

[TyranitarsShadow]

I caught a shiny Spinda with all max IVs. Being shiny has absoultely no impact on IVs.

[TyranitarsShadow]

Posted this in the wrong place, sorry.

[shineyaltaria]

I've changed post #10 to be the FR/LG section of this Help thread. Right now, all it has is the US release date and a pointer to the serebii site. More info will be added in the future as needed.

[Kuiper]

How about adding a link to the Fire Red/Leaf Green thread?

[shineyaltaria]

How about adding a link to the Fire Red/Leaf Green thread?

I looked at that thread but didn't really see anything new. The serebii.net site covers everything there and more, and is organized with hot links for quick reference. But if you still feel that it would be helpful to include a link to the thread here then I'll add it.

[Cooltrainer Josh]

well.. the wailmer i had that i released had this.. rock smash, strength and surf... no dive.. yet it came back. so i dont think that your theory about dive works. btw i did your tentacool thing, it doesnt work....

Do you mean the Tentacool went, or it didn't ? Perhaps it is one random HM in each game. Try having only one Pokemon with each HM and try to release them all.

[bishpenguin]

I was searching up answers and under the updates pages on pokefor, I found that some other ppl were facing the same problems, so they reached the conclusion that some you cannot release because it would strand you in some parts of the game. I found some problems with this however,

- people were seeing this with Dive and Dive doesn't strand you, well prohibits you from going underwater, plus you cant release a diver when you're using Dive
- I tried re-releasing my Wailmer and it did not come back, so the game a) does not recognize Wailmer as stranding me or b) the idea that stranding is impossible
- the game provides opportunites to lose your strandedness, for instance, fishing will result in the comeback of surf/dive/waterfall etc.
- there is no single place in the game where you will remain totally isolated (only through trading I guess this could happen - but then again I haven't tested this [i.e.: trading a surfer after beating Norman (not talking to Wally's parents), winding up in Pacifidlog then trading/releasing the surfer])

As for the Tentacool business; I had caught one, taught it Dive and released it, and it went happily along. I really do not want to test out having only one poke for each HM and release them all, I am way too lazy.

[Sashiwa]

Altaria- out of 5 newly hatched Swablu, only one was Female. Is this random or is it because of some unexplainble breeding thing?

[scizandor04]

there is one place in the firey path, near the bottom, by the item, where you can strand yourself by pushing rocks in your way. I did that, but I used dig to get out.

[shineyaltaria]

Altaria- out of 5 newly hatched Swablu, only one was Female. Is this random or is it because of some unexplainble breeding thing?

You have a 50% chance of getting either male or female swablu. So if you keep breeding, you should notice a more equal distribution.

[Sashiwa]

Thanks Altaria. BTW, what's a good moveset for Altaria?

[shineyaltaria]

Altaria is a very versatile species. It can be a physical attacker, special attacker, and makes a good hazer too. It has decent stats. So it really depends on what Role you want it to play in combo with the rest of your team. I like the dragonbreath/attract combo a lot. Very nice and annoying.

[Sashiwa]

What's your Altaria's set?

[shineyaltaria]

The one I've used at the BT is:

Altaria@lum or lefties
=DragonBreath
=Attract
=Haze
=Aerial Ace

[Sashiwa]

I'm thinking of

@Chesto
Dragonbreath
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
Rest

[shineyaltaria]

I needed to make room in my PM area since it was full. So those of you who tried PMing a message to me today can retry now and I should get it this time.

[Kuiper]

there is one place in the firey path, near the bottom, by the item, where you can strand yourself by pushing rocks in your way. I did that, but I used dig to get out.
I did that too. Just walk as far away as you can from the rocks and they'll reset themselves.

[bishpenguin]

youre still not stranded tho.. cuz the rocks reset and your freed again.

[Sashiwa]

I don't think you can be stranded like in R/B/Y you can get stranded on the boat / ferry thing if you don't faint after you get Cut.

[shineyaltaria]

Got escape rope?

[Cooltrainer Josh]

You can't be stranded by releasing an HM Pokemon because you can only release/trade Pokemon in a Pokemon Center, not in the wild. The reason behind the HM no-release thing must be something else.

About that time-freeze glitch, when you get it, does the Pokemon Fan Club President's brother (AKA the Frustration/Return Guy) go to 368 days until he gets a TM ?

[shineyaltaria]

What time freeze glitch?

Are you talking about the reporters being frozen at one location or the berry-related glitch or something else?

[King Politoed]

EV question: if you are level 3 and gain a ev point, and get half exp, if you battle again and get the EV point. will you get 2 EV points in lvl 3 or one in lvl 3 and 4?

[shineyaltaria]

EV question: if you are level 3 and gain a ev point, and get half exp, if you battle again and get the EV point. will you get 2 EV points in lvl 3 or one in lvl 3 and 4?

I'm not exactly sure what your question is---

You earn Effort points depending on what species of pokemon you battle, not what level your pokemon is at the time. As a general rule, the higher the level of your pokemon, the greater the number increase in a stat you'll see when it gains the next level.

Lower level pokemon do not show much growth in other words, even though they are earning the Effort. So the level of your pokemon can effect When you get your earned effort Applied to a stat, but does not change the fact that you have earned it.

Why is this? I've never seen anyone really explain it. Here's what I think though:

I think this is because there seems to be a minimum and maximum for each pokemons stat for each of their levels. If you've earned more than the max in that stat for that pokemons new level, the remaining unapplied effort will be applied to a future level.

For example, let's say we have a Swablu that has earned 16 points in speed. 16 divided by 4 = 4 Effort levels, so we've earned a +4 increase in speed when we gain the next level. So far so good?

Now let's say that the minimum speed for a Swablu at the new level is 31 and the max is 37. We were lucky and got a fast Swablu (good IV) and its speed is already 34. So when Swabby grows to the next level, she'll only be able to get +3 of the +4 increase in speed (37-34=3), with 1 point being left over to be applied next time she grows.

[Cooltrainer Josh]

What time freeze glitch?

Are you talking about the reporters being frozen at one location or the berry-related glitch or something else?

Uh...the glitch where nothing takes into account that the day has changed. I guess that's the Berry glitch. Lottery/Berry People are also affected.

[King Politoed]

I'm not exactly sure what your question is---
never mind..... i've figured it out

[shineyaltaria]

Cooltrainer Josh; Thanks for the reply.

King Politoed; Too bad I wasted all that time and space trying to explain it to you, huh? Oh well, at least you've figured it out.

[Cooltrainer Josh]

Cooltrainer Josh; Thanks for the reply.

Yes, but is him saying 'Oh yes, in 368 days I should be getting a good TM or two. You should come see me then. Etc.' due to that glitch, or is it more likely due to my use of 'Inaction' Replay ?

[shineyaltaria]

Edit: Added Ho-oh to TyranitarsShadow's Colosseum list in post #9. I think the list of pokemon that you can trade between R/S and COL is complete now.

[shineyaltaria]

Looks like there may be a 4th generation of pokemon games coming, according to the serebii.net site. They have a pic of a new pokemon that could be a pre-evo of Snorlax. Anyway, check it out if you're interested.

Odd that they never came out with a third version to compliment R/S though, like they did with the first two generations.

[shineyaltaria]

What do you think of this Rayquaza I just caught (on a restarted sapphire cart).

Rayquaza's IVs
(lv 70) Adamant
HP 21
AT 31
DF 25
SA 1
SD 31
SP 14

Should I bother training it to be a physical sweeper? I've never trained a Rayquaza yet but this one looks interesting. What do you think?

[scizandor04]

wow, train it. I would go all out on TMs to give that a good set. Brick Break, Fly/AA, Dragon Dance and another physical move would be evil. The sp. Def is good so he might be able to survive an ice beam from an game pokemon

[shineyaltaria]

Ok, thanks for the suggestion, WTH, I'll train it. I can give it just about any TM since I do restarts often and trade them over to my Ruby cart.

EVs maxed in AT are a no-brainer, but what other stat would be best to max out do you think?

[scizandor04]

max out speed with the extra in sp.def.
a last move for the set above could be ancient power, extreme speed, or hyper beam

[shineyaltaria]

Thanks, scizandor04. EVs is speed sounds good.

I was thinking EQ for the last slot but will consider your other suggestions. Thanks again.

[scizandor04]

yeah, I forgot to mention eq. that would be the best move in the last slot. so it is something like this:

Raquaza
252 Att 252 Spd 4 SpDef (or HP)
Fly/Aerial Ace
Brick Break
Dragon Dance
Eearthquake

[Absol]

use Thunderbolt over Brick Break and 220 speed EVs instead, and you could have a really good set!

congratulations!

[scizandor04]

but its SpAtt IV is 1, attack is 31, how can you put a Special Attack on that?

[Absol]

still has 150 base special attack... and he needs something to deal with Skarmory...

[shineyaltaria]

I see they merged some of the poke forums and looked around a bit but didn't see where the COlosseum stuff went to (new gamecube games). I looked in 'other' but didn't see any of the familiar threads.Anyone know where that stuff went to?

Edit: Vet Absol; 220? I don't understand. With 252 in AT and 220 in SP that would still leave like 38 Effort points to be put in a third stat. Did you really mean 252 in SP?

[bishpenguin]

Odd that they never came out with a third version to compliment R/S though, like they did with the first two generations.

i dunno if you care, but i would like to share my theory on the third versions of each of the generations.

Both Yellow and Crystal offered
A) new trainers/partners/characters
B) new plot twists
C) version exclusive events
D) special pokemon that can only be caught with your id in the game

Colosseum's story mode fits that description:
A) you can take on the role of a new character
B) the new plot twist is that you snag pokemon in Oore
C) like Battle Tower and the Surfing Pikachu Challenge, Colosseum has Mt. Battle
D) old Johto pokemon can be caught with the new character's id

So Colosseum is the third complement to r/s since it fits all of the descriptions of a complement. So not only does Colosseum provide the equivalent to Pokemon Stadium I and II, the story mode provides the third version that is the complement to the two main games. Makes you wonder why Colosseum wasn't dumped in here for the forum groupings...

I wonder if Nintendo is gonna make another third version complement to FRLG on Gamecube. I don't want to use it only for Colosseum.....

[shineyaltaria]

bishpenguin; Good point about Colosseum possibly being the complement. I suppose it can be thought of that way, though I was referring to a potential third GBA/SP type version like what they did with yellow and crystal. There was a lot of talk a while ago about this on the previous board; including speculation about what it might be named (most posters thought 'emerald' would be a good name).

You wondered why the mods didn't 'dump' Colosseum in here for the new forum groupings and I guess only they know. I'm still trying to find what they did with all of those threads. Anyone have a clue where the Colosseum threads are? Were they deleted? And where do new Colosseum topics get posted to. . . "Other"?.

Vet Absol: I'm going to start training that Rayquaza, giving it AT EVs first. I'd still like to know what you meant by '220'. At this point I can only assume you meant 252 in Speed, which is what I was planning.

[scizandor04]

I still think special attacks is a bad idea, with the 1 IV and the lowering nature, brick break should handle skarmory

[shineyaltaria]

I'm done EV training the Rayquaza and it is evil. It has 436 attack LOL. I can't use it at BT though, so I want to move it over to Colosseum to play around with 2 on 2 at the Lv 100 tower challenge.

But first I need a partner for it. Maybe one that's ice-resistant or a levitator? Partner suggestions welcome.

Thanks to anyone who suggests a 2 on 2 partner for my Rayquaza.

Edit: I can't find my Colosseum threads on any of the boards here. I had a thread about 'Good 2 on 2 combos' that I wanted to look at again. Maybe I'll add a section like that to this thread (post #9, the R/S-Colosseum section).

[Kuiper]

About the EV distribution portion of the guide:

Sweepers generally have 252 in an attack stat, 252 speed, and 4 HP.

Low-HP-high-defense-tanks should have 252 HP, and the rest split in such a way so the defenses are even. Not necessarily 128/128, if you have a careful nature, you'll need more defense EVs than special defense EVs.

If you are not attacking, but giving consideration to speed (annoyers, Heal Bellers/Aromatherapists, etc.), 252 speed, 252 HP, and 4 defense (less confusion damage) is best.

A wall like Skarmory or Blissey should have 252 HP and 252 in their stronger defensive stat, and 4 in speed or one of the attack stats.


It also might be a good idea to mention the Leftovers threshold.



Edit: Rayquaza would probably do well with another Flyer/Levetator that can use Earthquake with Rayquaza. Something like Gyrados, maybe. Kind of like the Claydol-Flygon combo.

[shineyaltaria]

I'm not familiar with the phrase 'leftovers threshold'. All I know is that the higher your HP, the more it seems to recover. Are you referring to a maximum amount? Just let me know and I'll be glad to include it along with all of your fine EV distribution suggestions.

I'll probably do a Thread Update sometime soon for this, plus I'm seriously thinking of adding a short section about 2 on 2 battling to the R/S/PC post, especially since we do not have a dedicated PC forum anymore it seems.

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Thanks for the partner idea. Yeah, I agree that Gyarados would be a fine choice. I got one with HP:Flying but ironically did not distribute its EVs optimally (I know, Duh) so I may just just go and breed/train another one.

[Kuiper]

For every 16 HP, you recover 1 HP with Leftovers. So it is opptimal to have your HP a multiple of 16.

However, since this is the exact incrementation in which Burn and Poison do damage, it's good to have one more than a multiple of 16, so you can survive a Burn a turn longer.

For double battles, HoundoomsRevenge used this, along side Swampert:

Gyrados@Scope Lens
- Surf (2 hit)
- Earthquake (2 hit)
- Blizzard (2 hit)
- Rain Dance


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You can't link to the gamefaqs guides, they end in .txt, so just post the url and say "paste it in your web browser." Like in my sig.

[Absol]

leftovers threshold is because if I have 2 pokemon, one with 16 HP, and the other with 31 HP, they will both still only recover 1 HP each turn...

so by having your HP only 1 more than a multiple of 16 (so yo can survive one more turn from a Toxic/WoW) you will recover a larger percentage of HP...

[shineyaltaria]

Ok, got it. Thanks for the lefties explanation.

I've never seen a Gyarados with a moveset like that, but am happy to give it a try. Especially since it was Good Sir HR who taught me so much about the game. Guess I'll breed/train up a new one and split the EVs between the 2 attacks since the basic idea is to just pound away.

[Kuiper]

BTW, I just tested, and Leftovers will always recover a minimum of 1 HP. Even though the Wurmple I tested on only had 14 HP, it got 1 HP recovery per turn.

[shineyaltaria]

BTW, I just tested, and Leftovers will always recover a minimum of 1 HP. Even though the Wurmple I tested on only had 14 HP, it got 1 HP recovery per turn.

Fallen Ronin; Ok, I'll include that too. Thanks.

All; I've got some ideas for the new 2 on 2 battle section (post 9) and will probably start a thread asking for more ideas so stay tuned.

The next update will be done after the new 2 on 2 stuff is completed.

[bishpenguin]

So Colosseum is the third complement to r/s since it fits all of the descriptions of a complement. So not only does Colosseum provide the equivalent to Pokemon Stadium I and II, the story mode provides the third version that is the complement to the two main games. Makes you wonder why Colosseum wasn't dumped in here for the forum groupings...


hey! my logic reasoning worked. now the board is r/s and colosseum. interesting...

[Absol]

why do they keep doing this?

[shineyaltaria]

Edit: The new 2v2 battling section has been added to post 9. Also, I put in Fallen Ronin's EV distribution comments (Post 6) and updated the Assistant Role with a note about how it is expanded in 2v2.

[shineyaltaria]

I've been here one year! And to think a year ago I never heard of EVs or IVs or knew hardly anything. I have a lot of people to thank, some of which no longer post unfortunately. Most of them are listed on page 1 of the Help thread in one or more places.

Anyway, I hope that those of you who are new here read this and are encouraged. All of us were newbies once.

Edit: Now that the 2v2 update is done, if anyone has some ideas for useful things they would like to see included here on the Help Thread (for the next update) just post.

[Cooltrainer Josh]

But I've got a 2 vs. 2 strategy.

Hit a Pokemon with Flash Fire with a Fire-type attack to power it up, or hit Lanturn with Electric or Quagsire with Water attacks to heal it. The rest of the Water/Volt Absorbers resist their types, so they won't be healed much.

BTW, here are the rest of those EQ partners: Charizard, Gligar(STAB), Claydol(STAB), Solrock, and Aerodactyl. Too bad a 2-hit Swampert could kill a team like that.

[wobmaster]

I have returned!

2on2 strategy: if you're in a tough situation that you are desperate to get out of and have nothing to lose, explode. if you have a real passive team, then exploders could give you the extra firepower you need to win. But remember, exploding KOs the exploder and does 250 power to everyone else on the field, friend and foe alike

you can also use it when your partner is digging, flying, bouncing, diving, protecting, detecting, is a ghost, and most important, et cetera

[shineyaltaria]

Hey wobmaster there you are! Good to have you back here and thanks for the post.

Well I thought the 2v2 stuff was done but it looks like the next update will be to post 9 since there is more useful info about the 2v2 battling coming out and more tests to do.

[wobmaster]

Did anyone ever take the Luvdisc/Shedinja/Nosepass BT challenge besides me?

If so, please post (or send me a PM). There were several of you who said you were working on putting together that team but I didn't see anyone post how they did (maybe I missed it though, if so just let me know). Thanks.
i took the challenge, have just finished the team, and am in the BT as we speak!...or as you read...

[Cooltrainer Josh]

For the 2 on 2 section, change 'Poster GyroYam says it is good to Toxic your own Pokemon with Facade+Guts' to 'poison your own Pokemon'. Poisoning yourself has the same effect and won't kill you very quickly with Leftovers. Toxic=7 turns with Leftovers;Poison=17 turns with Leftovers.

[shineyaltaria]

Cooltrainer Josh; I added your tip/comment directly after GyroYam's post. Thanks for posting it. This Help Thread would not be as good, nor as accurate, without your many helpful corrections and comments.

Hey, wobmaster, that's great news! I hope you kick serious butt and have some fun too. Watch out for Sceptile. He fainted my whole team and stopped my challenge cold. Good luck! I wonder what ever happened to Linzoy and vet Absol's challenge. They said they wanted to try it too.

= = = = = = =

EDIT: 6/25/04 Gone Fishin'. BFN, SA.

[Cooltrainer Josh]

Thank you very much ! Here's a trainer tip for in-game to put in the Help Thread:

If you save in one day in front of the lotto lady, and then turn it on in the next day, as long as you don't save you can do the lotto any amount of times. This is because the game does not have a generated number saved for that day. Just do it until you win ! Of course, it helps to have a lot of different ID numbers so that the process will go faster.

[wobmaster]

i tried that, but she said to come back tomorrow, and now she says that every time i go there... :confused:

[shineyaltaria]

I'm back from fishin'. . .

Cooltrainer Josh; I'll have to try that. Thanks for the tip.

wobmaster; I saw that you did good in the BT challenge so Congrats!! It's not easy to string wins together with that team. You deserve a lot of credit just for trying it. Ya done goooood!

[wobmaster]

i slacked offa little in breeding and let one stat of the ones i was useing have a less than good IV... it was spde for luv, speed for shed, and speed for nose.

that didnt hold em back much, since luv usually KO'ed quick, shed inja wasn't hit by much, and nose was a tank anyway...

[shineyaltaria]

wobmaster; You did what you said you would do, and that counts for a lot, regardless of the outcome. Winners never quit. Quitters never win. You have what it takes.

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Cooltrainer Josh; I tried your lottery tip just now. Without saving, I played once then tried to play again but was told to 'come back tomorrow'. So I left the building and re-entered and tried to play again but got the 'come back tomorrow message' again. I flew to Fortree and then went back to Lilycove and tried a third time but still got the come back message. So I'm not sure what you are doing that is different.

EDIT: I just tried it again this morning, after saving in front of the lady last night, but I can still only play once. So it looks like the tip does not work for me.

[Cooltrainer Josh]

i tried that, but she said to come back tomorrow, and now she says that every time i go there... :confused:


I do believe you've got the Time Freeze Glitch ! Trade with Colosseum and the Lotto and the Berry Master et cetera should be back in no time. If you can't trade with Colosseum, maybe you can send it to Nintendo of Japan ? I heard that you had to do that in Japan to fix your cartridge.


Shiny Altaria: Your problem is most likely that you are saving in the same day. Save, wait 24 hours, and it should be working. Or, figure out when your day changes, and save before it does and turn on after. I just said originally to do it at that time because I figured most people would set their time to real time.

[shineyaltaria]

Your problem is most likely that you are saving in the same day. Save, wait 24 hours, and it should be working. Or, figure out when your day changes, and save before it does and turn on after.

I saved the game in front of her late last night so it hasn't been 24 hours yet. Since I haven't played (saved) since then, I'll just wait until tomorrow morning and try again. It will definately be more than 24 hours then.

BTW I did set the game clock to the real time. I just flew home to check it and it is still correct. I miss having that watch though, like we did in S/G/C. It's kind of a pain to stop what you're doing and have to go home just to see what time it is.

Got Fly?

[Kuiper]

OMG your clock is still accurate? Half the year the clock is wrong because of DST, and my clock is off about 34 minutes! I'm guessing it's another time glitch-related thing, the offset of the clock got erased but the error still remained. So instead of steadily creeping backward to the point where in another year it'd be off by an hour, it just stays behind that half hour.

[shineyaltaria]

OMG your clock is still accurate? Half the year the clock is wrong because of DST, and my clock is off about 34 minutes! I'm guessing it's another time glitch-related thing, the offset of the clock got erased but the error still remained. So instead of steadily creeping backward to the point where in another year it'd be off by an hour, it just stays behind that half hour.

LOL yeah it's accurate on my Sapphire cart but that's the one I'm always restarting, so not much time has passed. The Mossdeep space dude says there have been 6 launches, so that's only 6 weeks. On my Ruby cart where I never restarted, it's off by about 20 minutes.

Edit: Cooltrainer Josh; I tried again this morning but still get "please come back tomorow" after I play once.

[Cooltrainer Josh]

Edit: Cooltrainer Josh; I tried again this morning but still get "please come back tomorow" after I play once.

Do you mean you saved, and then played again ? It only works as long as you don't save in the new day. This does mean you can't do anything else until after you've won if you really want to win.

EDIT:Please bring back the formulas for IV and stat calculating. I know them by heart, but others may not, and some people weren't even there on the old board.

[shineyaltaria]

What I meant was the Tip does not seem to work for me. I saved a few days ago in front of the lottery lady. I have not saved since. But I've tried several times to play more than once (in the same day), but it's no go. I just get the message about 'come back tomorrow'.

Has anyone else been able to use the tip successfully? Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

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I'm planning an update later this month to add some FAQs for PC to post #9. At that time, I'll also post the formulas at the end of the Trainer's Checklist (post #6).

If anyone has a FAQ related to PC that they think would be helpful to include, just post it. So far, I'm going to have these:

* How do I get Ho-oh?
* Which pokemon should I use the master ball on?
* How many Time flutes are there and which pokemon should I use them on?

I know of two errors in the Official guide and I'll post them too.

Edit: Cooltrainer Josh; Are you by any chance just shuting the game off wihtout saving for each same-day lottery try?

Cooltrainer Josh you out there?

[Sturgy]

I think the idea is that you save at 23:59 or anytime before the next day. When you restart the next day the game randomly generates the lottery number. If it is not your number then you restart, and it should generate a new number. I have never checked this so don't trust me on this, but this is how I understood it.

[Cooltrainer Josh]

What I meant was the Tip does not seem to work for me. I saved a few days ago in front of the lottery lady. I have not saved since. But I've tried several times to play more than once (in the same day), but it's no go. I just get the message about 'come back tomorrow'.

Has anyone else been able to use the tip successfully? Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Edit: Cooltrainer Josh; Are you by any chance just shuting the game off wihtout saving for each same-day lottery try?

Cooltrainer Josh you out there?

Yes, that is what I'm doing. You must restart your game every time, not just keep talking to her.

[shineyaltaria]

Ok, got it. I already knew that shutting off would allow for a lotto replay if not saved and so I thought you had come up with something entirely different.

My misunderstanding (duh).

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I noticed that Meowth already has a FAQ section for PC but haven't checked it out yet. If the FAQs I was gonna post here are already answered there then I won't need another update to post #9. . . maybe just a pointer to their site instead.

[wobmaster]

Ok, got it. I already knew that shutting off would allow for a lotto replay if not saved and so I thought you had come up with something entirely different.

My misunderstanding (duh).
i shut off and it still said come back tomorrow...its said that every single day

[shineyaltaria]

i shut off and it still said come back tomorrow...its said that every single day

Don't save after you've played. As long as you haven't saved ( in the same day you played) you should be able to start up and try again repetitively. I think that's why Cooltrainer said to save in front of her. . . just saves you from having to keep traveling back to the lotto lady for the re-tries.

[Kuiper]

Does it matter whether you hard/soft reset?

[wobmaster]

Don't save after you've played. As long as you haven't saved ( in the same day you played) you should be able to start up and try again repetitively. I think that's why Cooltrainer said to save in front of her. . . just saves you from having to keep traveling back to the lotto lady for the re-tries.
i didnt save, i just talked and turned off...i just got bored and quit

[shineyaltaria]

Does it matter whether you hard/soft reset?

Soft reset a GBA/SP? I'm not following that. Usually a soft reset would be restarting without powering all the way off. Is that what you mean?

I just shut the game off without saving, which I guess you could say is a hard reset since it goes completely off.

[Cooltrainer Josh]

No, it does not.

Shiney Altaria: Yes, that's why I said to save there.

What I think he means by 'soft reset' is to press A, B, Start, and Select at the same time, which restarts from the game beginning, not from the 'Game Boy' screen you see when you turn it on.

[shineyaltaria]

What I think he means by 'soft reset' is to press A, B, Start, and Select at the same time, which restarts from the game beginning, not from the 'Game Boy' screen you see when you turn it on.

I've never used the 'soft reset' combo you described. I just turn it on and power up. So if you press those 4 things, your game restarts from where you previously saved? (you wrote 'game beginning' but I don't think you mean doing that will begin a new game.)

[Cooltrainer Josh]

What I mean is the Pokemon/Nintendo/Gamefreak screen you see after the 'Game Boy' screen but before anything else.

[Kuiper]

Soft resetting prevents problems with the SP power switch, takes less time, and uses less batteries. Hard resets reset the soft RNG in Golden Sun. (And other games, but that's the one game I've found with an abusable RNG.) Soft reset is something built into the software, not the hardware, so some of the earlier games (for example, Link's Awakening) do not have the soft reset feature. Now, the soft reset button combonation is pretty much standard, as I hope the L+R+SELECT sleep feature will.

If you hold UP+B+SELECT on the title screen, you can clear your save data. In Gold and Silver (NOT Crystal) you could press DOWN+B+SELECT to reset the ingame clock (after punching in a five digit key determined by your name [case sensetive], ID number, and amount of money held [not including any left with MOM.]). This game really needed a way to reset the clock because of the inaccuracy due to the "Berry glitch."

[shineyaltaria]

I've decided to drop the idea of doing a PC FAQ section in post 9 since there does not appear to be any interest in that. Nobody posted any questions for it.

Cooltrainer Josh: I'll post the formulas in the next update, maybe sometime later this week.

I'd like to add '1337' to the acronym/definitions post since it seems to be cropping up a lot lately. Anyone have a good definition for '1337'?

[marill122]

1337 - "Leet," as in, "Elite."

[Kuiper]

1337 $|*34 |< 1$ 4 (7\_/4 |_ |_ */ 4 |_ 4/\/9\_/493.

"1337" is "leet" in leet speak. Also, don't criticize my 1337, 1 |< /\/0\/\/ 17 $\_/ ><.

[shineyaltaria]

1337 $|*34 |< 1$ 4 (7\_/4 |_ |_ */ 4 |_ 4/\/9\_/493.

"1337" is "leet" in leet speak. Also, don't criticize my 1337, 1 |< /\/0\/\/ 17 $\_/ ><.

WTH? Ok, not being familiar with 'leet', I guess I'll just put in that it means elite.

Cooltrainer Josh; Looks like I don't have the formulas anymore. I had them backed up on my 'puter along with the whole Help thread but when my hard disk broke a couple weeks ago I replaced it and had to reinstall the OS (and all of my Apps too). Anyway, I did not have any pojo stuff backed up onto aux storage. Sorry. Anyone who wants can still just get the formulas from Gamefaqs anyway so hopefully it's no big deal. Luckily, everything else 'important' on my system I did have a usable backup of.

Got backups?

[marill122]

This is the formula for working out your Pokemon's Att., Def., Speed, Sp. Att. and Sp. Def stats;

Posted by egervari (Gamefaqs.com)

Stat = Math.Floor(
(( BaseStat * 2 + IV + Math.Floor( EV/4 ) ) * Level/100 + 5 ) * P
)

This version is the same as before except "EV/4" needs to be rounded down
since the game can never give you "part of a stat point". Also, you'll need
to round the entire end-result down after you have multiplied it by P (which
is the Personality value) because whenever you multiply by the values .9 or
1.1, you will receive anywhere from 0 to an infinite amount of decimal places
n the end-result and that is definately no good.

I find that as long as you round the end-result, you probably don't have to
worry about rounding "EV/4" down. I don't see how it can really have a
large impression on the overall result and will most likely get rounded off
at the end anyway.


This is the HP stat formula;

Posted by egervari (Gamefaqs.com)

HP = ( BaseStat * 2 + IV + Math.Floor( EV/4 ) ) * Level/100 + 10 + Level


This is the formula for working out your Pokemon's Att., Def., Speed, Sp. Att. and Sp. Def IVs;

Posted by egervari (Gamefaqs.com)

IV = (( Math.Ceiling( Stat/P ) - 5 ) * 100/Level ) - 2 * BaseStat - EV/4

Note: It is *very* important that you round-up "Stat/P" or the formula will
produce smaller, inaccurate values.


This is the HP IV formula;

Posted by egervari (Gamefaqs.com)

IV = (( Stat - Level - 10 ) * 100/Level ) - 2 * BaseStat - EV/4

N.B. Just a reminder, when using the IV formulas, make sure the Pokemon you are testing is at Level 12 or above.

[shineyaltaria]

Thank you Sir Marill. I included your formula post at the end of the Trainer's Checklist.

I also added the '1337' definition and updated the thread change history.

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EDIT: Well FR/LG will be coming out soon. When I created this thread I 'reserved' post 10 for anything related to how those versions will relate to R/S. So if anyone has any FR/LG topics or helpful things they would like to see in that post just let me know.