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ChaoTrainer
05-08-2004, 07:22 AM
Female Ludicolo(EV's:Hp:6, Defense:252, Special Attack:252) w/ Leftovers (P:Modest A:Rain Dish)
-Rain Dance
-Dive
-Leech Seed
-Toxic

Female Wobbuffet(EV's:Hp:252, Defense:129, Special Defense:129) w/ Leftovers (P:Impish A:Shadow Tag)
-Destiny Bond
-Mirror Coat
-Counter
-Encore

Male Crobat(EV's:Hp:6, Attack:252, Speed:252) w/ Leftovers (P:Adamant A:Inner Focus)
-Confuse Ray
-Toxic
-Fly
-Mean Look

Male Raichu(EV's:Hp:6, Attack:252, Special Attack:252) w/ Leftovers (P:Bashful A:Static)
-Thunderbolt
-Thunderwave
-Focus Punch
-Sweet Kiss

Male Dusclops(EV's:Hp:6, Defense:252, Special Defense:252) w/ Chesto Berry (P:Impish A:Pressure)
-Mean Look
-Rest
-Night Shade
-Will-O-Wisp

Female Ninetales(EV's:Hp:6, Defense:252, Special Attack:252) w/ Leftovers (P:Modest A:Flash Fire)
-Flamethrower
-Will-O-Wisp
-Fire Spin
-Confuse Ray

and give suggestions if needed!

Sashiwa
05-08-2004, 12:08 PM
Nothing's wrong.

TyranitarsShadow
05-08-2004, 06:49 PM
Colo-Change to Bold or Calm

Crobat-Change to Jolly. Give it Aerial Ace, Fudge Bomb, HP:Ground, Haze.

Raichu-Change to Hasty.

Dusclops-Change item to leftovers. Give it 252 HP, 129 sp.def, 129 def in EVs. Consider dropping Mean Look for Confuse Ray.

ChaoTrainer
05-08-2004, 07:18 PM
why would i change raichu's nature to hasty? i need all the defense i could get from ground attacks.

TyranitarsShadow
05-08-2004, 07:37 PM
If Raichu is hit by an EQ, he is dead either way. And Raichu NEEDS max speed.

ChaoTrainer
05-08-2004, 09:34 PM
Just curious, but since you suggested for me to change my dusclop's ev's to 252 hp , 129 def and sp def, is it because a less percentage of your hp will be lost than by having 6 hp 252 def and sp def if hit by the same attack?

Kuiper
05-08-2004, 09:38 PM
Ludicolo needs maxed HP (so he can recover more) and defense (because all his weaknesses are physical). You might want to replace Rain Dance with Protect or Double Team. Ludicolo's not the greatest starter, as Skarmory (most OU starter ever) can Toxic and Drill Peck him.

If you must use Wobuffet, your set looks good, though an attack-lowering nature is always preferable (not like it really matters, though). Safegaurd is always a viable option, especially on something like this that is just screaming "Toxic me!"

Crobat should have maxed speed. And Shadow Ball combined with this makes him a good 'Zam killer.

Make Raichu Hasty.

Dusclops and any other tank with low HP should have maxed HP. Give him Leftovers.

Since Ninetales has WoW, EVs in defense is kind of pointless. Speed is always important, so a maxing speed would not be that bad of an idea.


Double weakness to ground, double weakness to Ghost, and double weakness to Bug is all I could find. Nice type coverage. (You wouldn't believe how many teams I see with quadruple weaknesses.) Looks good.

ChaoTrainer
05-08-2004, 09:51 PM
ronin, which pokemon would you suggest to be my starter then?Also in the first suggestion you contradict yourself. you want me to have max ev's in hp for rain dish abilitly yet you suggest i get rid of rain dance.

Kuiper
05-08-2004, 09:56 PM
If you end up using Crobat as a sweeper, as TyranitarsShadow suggested, then that'd probably be a good choice, and even if you used it as an annoyer, it'd still be good for Toxic. Either that or Ninetales or Raichu for Thunderwave or WoW.

BTW, overlapping status is something you should be careful with. Like if you wanted to parafuse with Raichu to Focus Punch, you couldn't do it if they were already Toxic'd/WoW'd.

Yeeha! I finally got my sig pic to work!

ChaoTrainer
05-08-2004, 10:13 PM
my improved team (using both of shadow's and ronin's suggestions)

Female Ludicolo(EV's:Hp:252, Defense:252, Special Attack:6) w/ Leftovers (P:Bold A:Rain Dish)
-Rain Dance
-Dive
-Leech Seed
-Toxic

Female Wobbuffet(EV's:Hp:252, Defense:129, Special Defense:129) w/ Leftovers (P:Impish A:Shadow Tag)
-Safeguard
-Mirror Coat
-Counter
-Encore

Male Crobat(EV's:Hp:6, Attack:252, Speed:252) w/ Leftovers (P:Jolly A:Inner Focus)
-Aerial Ace
-Sludge Bomb
-Shadow Ball
-Haze

Should a sweeper like Crobat that could die in 2 or 3 hits have leftovers?

Male Raichu(EV's:Hp:6, Attack:252, Special Attack:252) w/ Leftovers (P:Hasty A:Static)
-Thunderbolt
-Thunderwave
-Focus Punch
-Sweet Kiss

Male Dusclops(EV's:Hp:252, Defense:129, Special Defense:129) w/ Leftovers (P:Impish A:Pressure)
-Confuse Ray
-Rest
-Night Shade
-Will-O-Wisp

Female Ninetales(EV's:Hp:6, Speed:252, Special Attack:252) w/ Leftovers (P:Modest A:Flash Fire)
-Flamethrower
-Will-O-Wisp
-Fire Spin
-Confuse Ray

what do you think?