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Lord_Skar
04-30-2004, 11:16 AM
This time for ruby. I traded over a beldum form my sapphire, and am in Petalburg right now.

Espeon@lum M (maximum spec att and speed)
-Calmmind
-Psy
-HP:Electric
-SkillSwap

For starter skars and stars, popular here.

Umbreon@lefties M (maximum spec def and def)
-Meanlook
-Rest
-D-Team
-B-pass

Altaria@lefties F (Don't know EV split. Was thinking Spec Def and speed)
-Attract
-Rest
-D-breath
-AerialAce

I really like the annoyer altaria.

Metagross@lum (max att. and spec.att??)
-Agility
-Meteormash
-Shadowball
-Psychic

Don't know. Never used him before...

Cradily@lefties
-Amnesia (max HP and Spec Def?? Not sure)
-Barrier
-Toxic
-Rest

Meanlook'll probably be batonpassed to her.

Octillery@lefties F (no idea of EV split)
-Surf
-Haze
-Fireblast/Icebeam
-Rest

Leaning towards Fireblast...

TyranitarsShadow
04-30-2004, 02:31 PM
Espeon@lum
Modest
252 sp.atk, 252 spd, 6 HP
-Calmmind
-Psy
-HP:Dark/Bite
-SkillSwap

Skarmory can't survive Psychic from an Espy, HP:Electric is kinda a waste.

Umbreon@lefties
Bold
252 HP(essential), 129 sp.def, 129 def
-Meanlook
-Wish/Rest
-D-Team/Toxic
-B-pass

There are better things than altaria, I'd suggest trying out something else in its place.

Metagross@liechi
Adamant
252 atk, 252 def, 6 HP
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Shadowball
-Earthquake

I've used him alot. Agility once and he has about 400 spd, even if he has no spd EVs. And as I said before, no mixes attacks. And NEVER boost an attacking stat if you only have 1 attack that is that kind of attack(like giving sp.atk EVs when your only sp.atk is Psychic).

Cradily@lefties
-Amnesia (max HP and Spec Def?? Not sure)
-Barrier
-Toxic
-Rest

This thing is screwed if they bring up a steel, a poison, somthing with refresh, something with Rest, or a Zangoose(especially Zangoose). Try out a Dusclops instead, which has much better stats and learns Mean Look naturally, and has a much better movepool.

Octillery@lefties F (no idea of EV split)
-Surf
-Haze
-Fireblast/Icebeam
-Rest
Bleh, UU, but UU for a reason. I know he has high sp.atk, but his othr stats are pretty lack luster. Try out Omastar,

Omastar@Petaya/leftovers
Swift Swim(essential)
Modest
252 sp.atk, enough spd so his actual spd stat is 150, the rest in HP/def.
Surf
Rain Dance
Ice Beam
Spikes
This thing is a beast. Huge sp.atk, huge defense, and with rain dance, out speeds the average poke. He also learns the rare and deadly spikes via breeding with Cloyster.

You don't need to list the gender, almost no one uses attract anymore so its not really a factor. And you NEED to list nature.

Nuetral777
04-30-2004, 03:54 PM
Espeon@lum M (252 Sp.Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp)
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-HP Dark
-SkillSwap

For starter skars and stars, popular here.

Umbreon@lefties M (252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp.Def)
-Meanlook
-Rest
-D-Team
-B-pass

Altaria@lefties F (252 Spd, 129 Atk, 129 Sp.Def)
-Attract[Dragon Dance]
-Rest/Return
-D-breath[Earthquake]
-AerialAce

I really like the annoyer altaria.

Metagross@lum (252 Atk, 129 Def, 129 Sp.Def)
-Agility
-Meteormash
-Shadowball
-Psychic[Earthquake]

Don't know. Never used him before...

Cradily@lefties (252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp.Def)
-Amnesia/Barrier
-Toxic
-HP Grass
-Rest

Meanlook'll probably be batonpassed to her.

Octillery@lefties F (252 SP.Atk, 129 Def, 129 Sp.Def)
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-HP Electric
-Flamethrower

Leaning towards Fireblast...

Think of replacing Octy for a Weezing(better Hazer) and Cradily for Ludicolo.

Weezing@Leftovers
(252 Atk, 129 Def, 129 Sp.Def) Adamant
Sludge Bomb
Explosion
Shadow Ball
Haze

Ludicolo@Leftovers (RAIN DISH IS A MUST)
Bold (252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp.Def)
Rain Dance
Toxic
Leech Seed
Surf/Seismic Toss

DON'T use Dive. Dive sucks very very much. Don't let others fool you. T-Shadow's suggestions are great you should consider a way to combine both T-shadow's and mine. I kept your team intact but I do suggest that you throw in a Hazer/Psuedo Hazer.

TyranitarsShadow
04-30-2004, 04:01 PM
Weezing is a great suggestion, but consider this set.

Weezing@leftovers
Impish(+def, -sp.atk)
252 def, the rest in HP, sp.def, and a little in atk
Fudge Bomb
Pain Split
Haze
WoW

This guy pwns. I use him on my main team. To get this moveset, breed as follows,

Misdreavus(with Pain Split) to Dusclops(with WoW, and Pain Split from Misdreavus) to Weezing

Lord_Skar
04-30-2004, 04:57 PM
I try to keep the number of OU pokes as small as possible, that's why I'm not used to pokes like meta and Salamence.
Anyway, thanks for the rates. Is there anyway I can keep Octillery? Its one of my favorites. I USED to use one in g/s/c, and it pwned. BUT r/s is radically different, plus I suck at it. I'll replace Cradily with dusclops with T-shadow's set. I'll post the updated team after a few more posts. Thanks for the rates.

Lord_Skar
05-01-2004, 10:13 AM
Changed team a little, here goes.

Espy@lum
-CalmMind
-Psy
-HP-Dark
-SkillSwap

Umbreon@lefties
-MeanLook
-Wish
-Toxic
-BatonPass

I like this better, because it deals damage thru toxic.

Crobat@lefties
-Haze
-Protect
-Fly
-Toxic

Anti-Slaking. Not sure about Fly and Toxic.

Metagross@lefties
-Agility
-M-Mash
-S-ball
-Earthquake

Ludicolo@lefties
-Toxic
-RainDance
-LeechSeed
-Surf

I like the set, Neutral777. But not too sure if I should use him. I really don't want to replace octy. Is there anyway I can keep octy? It used to pwn whole teams in g/s/c after being v-passed meanlook and three d-teams from umby with the moveset curse, return,surf rest... Did his tsats get any lower or what? In g/s/c, his base stats was tied with spec att and att being the highest (both 105).

Dusclops@lefties
-MeanLook
-Rest
-Protect
-Will-O-Wisp

I guess to make PP run out with pressure....

Thanks again for the rates. You guys helped alot.

Nuetral777
05-01-2004, 04:51 PM
If you want Octillery I suggest this set:

Octillery@Peyata Berry
Adamant:252 Sp.Atk, 129 Def, 129 Sp.Def
Thunder Wave
Surf
Ice Beam
Flamethrower

I'm not sure you should have 3 Sweepers(Octy, Espy, Metagross). If you drop a Sweeper, Octy will have a place. Which one...I'll don't know. Its up to you.

Lord_Skar
05-02-2004, 11:29 AM
I guess I'll have to replace espeon. Thanks Neutral.

team:

Umbreon@lefties
-Meanlook
-Wish
-Toxic
-BatonPass

Metagross@lefties
-Agility
-M-Mash
-S-ball
-Earthquake

Crobat@lefties
-Haze
-Protect
-Fly
-Toxic

Ludicolo@lefties
-Toxic
-RainDance
-LeechSeed
-Surf

Dusclops@lefties
-MeanLook
-Rest
-Protect
-Will-O-Wisp

Octilerry@petaya
-Thunder Wave
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Flamethrower

thank you neutral and T-SHadow.