CAUTION! You have entered a NO VINDICTIVITY ZONE!

[I Love Manzuri]

NO TEXANS ALLOWED! Unless I give you permission, if you live in the state of Texas, you're not aloud to post here. Don't ask; I won't give explanation. Don't post; you'll be ingnored (but your bump greatly appreciated).

Seeing as sooooomebody got all boo-hooey, they locked my thread, and, thus, here's the version 3. Seriously, I had 500+ first time, 450+ 2nd time, now, hopefully, we can get this one pretty close ><.

P.S. Exploitation of typographical errors will be ignored

The Shinji Mimura Project

Monsters: (19)

Mobius the Frost Monarch
Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
Cyber Dragon
Cyber Dragon
Cyber Dragon

Exiled Force
Exiled Force
Dekoichi the Battlechanted Locomotive
Mystic Tomato
Don Zaloog
Newdoria
Injection Fairy Lily
Spirit Reaper
Magician of Faith
D. D. Warrior Lady
Sangan
Giant Rat
Elemental Hero Wildheart
Breaker the Magical Warrior

Magic: (13)

Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Last Will
Reinforcement of the Army
Nobleman of Crossout
Book of Moon
Scapegoat
Graceful Charity
Mystical Space Typhoon
Confiscation
Heavy Storm
Premature Burial
Swords of Revealing Light

Traps: (8)

Sakuretsu Armor
Sakuretsu Armor
Magic Cylinder
Ceasefire
Ring of Destruction
Mirror Force
Call of the Haunted
Torrential Tribute

Props to RoFlavin the Monarch for the colours =D
Props to Thestalos_Throwdown for inspiration ^_~

EDIT (added August 1st, 2006):

DARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOS HEIR AUDITIONS BEGIN TODAY! It is inevitable Dark Magician of Chaos will one day be removed from my deck. If you have interest in running Dark Magician of Chaos in a serious deck, and would like to be known as "the heir to Manzuri's throne", then audition now. If I get more than 2, we will eliminate American Idol style :D.

Accomplishments:

Oct regs: 24th, 6-2
Dec regs: 14th, 6-2
Feb regs: 10th, 6-2

Pics of me pwning! =D

Pic 1: Me pwning with a Treeborn, Reflect, Exarion, and a Brain Control'd Mobius. Drillroid is in the grave XD: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/ILoveManzuri/Pwnage3.jpg

Pic 2: It's very dark XD, but I'm pretty sure I see: Breaker, Reflect, Exarion, and Drillroid: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/ILoveManzuri/Pwnage2.jpg

Pic 3: Me pwning with Exiled, Breaker, 2 Reapers, and DDWL. Obviously my opponent ran Metamorph seeing as there's a Dragoness in the Grave XD: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/ILoveManzuri/Pwnage1.jpg

RULE #1 (added: Feb 27, 2006)

NO KNAVES ALOUD! If you're a knave, get the F out. You're not wanted here. So far, the following people have been labeled knaves and are not aloud to post here:

ATX (bRoKeN)
Netdecker

Thank you for your courtesy, and remember to throw your TRASH away ^_^

[zephyr_]

I'm first!

-bounder
+blade knight

still love it! 9.billion/10

[The Tourist]

I'm 2nd....

Still awsome Manzuri. I love playing my own version of the "Victory Deck"
People...Manzuri's deck concept works awsome. There's a little something for every situation. That's brillant!!!!

G to the J at regionals, and glad to see your deck worked great...:)

[Lance DeVrai]

I'm third and wondering why we're announcing our post number.

Monsters: (17)

Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
Mobius the Frost Monarch

Exarion Universe
Exarion Universe
Spirit Reaper
Spirit Reaper
Blade Knight
Goblin Elite Attack Force
Exiled Force
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Mystic Swordsman LV2
Drillroid
Sangan
D. D. Survivor
D. D. Assailant
D. D. Warrior Lady
Magician of Faith

Magic: (14)

Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Card of Sanctity
Card of Sanctity
Brain Control
Brain Control
Book of Moon
Apostle of Obliteration
Scapegoat
Black Hole
Cyclone
Tempest
Theft
Swords of Sealing Light

Traps: (9)

Sand Tornado
Sand Tornado
Reactive Armor
Reactive Armor
Bottomless Pitfall
Bottomless Pitfall
Magic Cylinder
Cry of the Living Dead
Tidal Wave
Fixes in the quote.
Please return the favor and look at the gallery in my sig. Thanks

[Wildfire]

I'm third! Yess!!! Edit: I'm fourth! Yess!!

I still don't think Bounder is good.

-1 Bounder
+1 Blade Knight (just to reinforce what Enigma said ;))

Infinity/10

[`Phenom]

Err....I'm 5th??

So this is what got you to 10th? I almost forgot about the deck.I see you're using 2 Sanctitys now. Well keep upthe good work and continue to show these mofos that there's no such thing as Aggro! :cool:

[Demon Soldier]

run 3 d.d survivor if you run card of sanctities

[Comet]

I'm eigth!

You put the names of ten different cards in their OCG forms. Is that because you prefer the OCG translations or it's just a habit?

Again, I have no fixes. I still state that there is no such thing as perfection, but this is just one of those decks that comes pretty damn close. 9.9763541/10 just because you're Manzuri.

And humor Monsieur Popo. Humor all of us, in fact, because I wanna hear this too if it'll prove your point.

[Masque]

Uhh... teh ninth? Anyways, this deck rocks because of the ways to use Card of Sanctity. I can't really see anyways to fix it. People have said Blade Knight over Bounder, but I like Bounder. If you want to make the change, that's fine with me. But I still like Bounder. Mind taking a look at my gallery in my sig?

[The Otaku]

+1 DD Survivor, since 41 card decks are secksy and it has major synergy with CoS

Yay im.... tenth.

Btw i love your avatar xD

[Comet]

What the hell, I'll steal eleventh, too.

Uhh... teh ninth? Anyways, this deck rocks because of the ways to use Card of Sanctity. I can't really see anyways to fix it. People have said Blade Knight over Bounder, but I like Bounder. If you want to make the change, that's fine with me. But I still like Bounder. Mind taking a look at my gallery in my sig?

Quoted for emphasis, except leave Bounder in. I like the fact that you use random techs. Mind looking at the Medieval Unity deck in my sig?

[HalHornCorSec]

I guess I'm ranking in at Number 12. Sorry one of the mods decided to take out your last thread--upon reading your regionals report, I wanted to go and see what changes had been made.

Congrats on getting progressively better, by the way. I expect you to T8 next time--don't let me down.

No fixes, as there is not a single card in this game that comes to mind that could make this thing better than it already is. Once again, congrats.

Yub, yub.

[Spike15]

If you must run Card of Sanctity, I'd try another D.D. Survivor. Also, I'd loose Magic Cylinders.

Also, I'd consider possibly running Chainsaw Insect over GEAF, since Chainsaw may give them marginal hand advantage, but gives you massive field presence.

Just some thoughts.

Would you mind taking a look at the Stall-Mill or FTK/OTK Exodia in sig?

Thanks,

Spike15

P.S.: !!!!13th!!!! :D :cool:

[HalHornCorSec]

wHOOOO i am a random number that i cannot count to!

why is CoS good, even with survior?

Whoooo! i cannot read OCG names. i am ignorant like that. can someone tell me what they are?
Card of Sanctity is so he can cycle two cards out of his deck and into his hand quickly. D.D. Survivor comes back even when removed by Card of Sanctity, so you don't lose as much advantage.

Also, the OCG-TCG cards:
Apostle of Obliteration = Nobleman of Crossout
Black Hole = Dark Hole
Cyclone = Mystical Space Typhoon
Tempest = Heavy Storm
Theft = Snatch-Steal
Swords of Sealing Light = Swords of Revealing Light
Sand Tornado = Dust Tornado
Reactive Armor = Sakuretsu Armor
Bottomless Pitfall = Bottomless Trap Hole
Cry of the Living Dead = Call of the Haunted
Tidal Wave = Torrential Tribute

Yub, yub.

[DigiAngel]

I'm 19th..............

bLAH.I wanted to be first.Any-who,I'm surprised,no rules or anything like the last time......

Quite surprised,and pleased.

Well,As Some person who I don't know the name of always says:

''If it ain't fixed then don't break it.''

10/10

So nice..It's not CC,but it's as good as one.
That's a compliment,by the way.:)

[HalHornCorSec]

Tell me you didn't just mention Premature Burial, my poor friend pallwall. If you did, well, I will be saddened by the ensuing events.

Actually, Manzuri's view is that there's really nothing WORTH brining back from the Graveyard with this deck. He feels it's best to just give it to another spot, so he can play a spell, set a trap, or summon a monster that is good NOW instead of depending on stuff that's already been expended.

But seriously, don't mention Premature Burial in this thread. Strange stuff happens to people who bring up Premature Burial.

Yub, yub.

[I Love Manzuri]

Tell me you didn't just mention Premature Burial, my poor friend pallwall. If you did, well, I will be saddened by the ensuing events.

Actually, Manzuri's view is that there's really nothing WORTH brining back from the Graveyard with this deck. He feels it's best to just give it to another spot, so he can play a spell, set a trap, or summon a monster that is good NOW instead of depending on stuff that's already been expended.

But seriously, don't mention Premature Burial in this thread. Strange stuff happens to people who bring up Premature Burial.

Yub, yub.

You know Hal, I love you with all my heart seeing as you've been the #1 contributor to my campaign (haha, closely-followed by Comet, RoFlavin, Enigma, etc, etc). However, I'm going to have to disappoint you in saying I've finally found a use for Prema.

See, after regionals, I've realized that Brain Control is MORE dependent than Premature is, and, Premature, while it uses my own monsters, can be quite useful seeing as they actually stay. Plus, 's great when there's say an Exiled or the like. Anyways, if it absolutely doesn't work back to Brain it is. However, I'm sure Premium is here to stay =D

-bounder
+blade knight

Knight is jank. 's a beatstick with a situational effect like no other. Not only does he have to be alone but you gotta pray they're runnin flop or some nonsense, and, then, you'd better have him as your only mon *tear*

G to the J at regionals, and glad to see your deck worked great...

Always has; I've been playing since MRD and not once have I ever had a deck that placed low in tournaments.

I see you're using 2 Sanctitys now.

...I have been since Septemberish...

This is the TCG forum, you should probably not use OCG names.

I was tired and mad a jank last night; I was just trying to get this damn thing posted. I'm not going to bother with tons of rules and the like unless they pop up this time around.

Please explain to my why you think card of sanctity is good, and give a real-life situation as to when it has helped you.

Lol, look to my first one seeing as my 2nd page was blipped. Well, to make it as short as possible XD...

Say I'm topping or am staring down an impressive field and all I have is an unhelpful Dust/Nobleman/Mobius and I draw CoS. Now, either I could just take it like a bish as my D/N/M rots in the hand or bluffs-out on the field, or I could just banish it and D2. I'd...rather try my hand at removing it and drawing 2 doncha think? Trust me, I run into un-helpful draws ALL THE TIME, so ridding them for 2 new cards usually helps.

run 3 d.d survivor if you run card of sanctities

Man, if only this were an RFG deck eh?

People have said Blade Knight over Bounder, but I like Bounder. If you want to make the change, that's fine with me. But I still like Bounder.

Of course dude; screw Knight. Blade is really jank tech but to me it's just a beatstick. It got famous vis-a-vis the way Survivor did. The difference is: Survivor is more useful as it is less situational. It gets around Bottomless, DDA, DDWL, and my CoS. Blade Knight is really only good against FFC which I only faced 1 at regs.

Btw i love your avatar xD

Actually it's supposed to spin. For some reason it wasn't given that ability, but oh well.

Sorry one of the mods decided to take out your last thread--upon reading your regionals report, I wanted to go and see what changes had been made.

-Brain
+Prema is all

Lol, if you read my reggies report you saw how a mod got in a flame war with me (I know right? XD), and, due to his lil hissy fit I had to make this. However, I decided instead of doing my typical F'k Aggro, I decided I'd make a pun on D-Bag Bill O'Reilly's "The O'Reilly Factor" with:

"The No Vindictivity Zone."

See, Bill O'Reilly always introduced his propaganda engine (or TV show as he innocently calls it) by saying "caution! you're about to enter a no spin zone! The Factor begings right now."

So, I punned it with: "CAUTION! You're about to enter a NO VINDICTIVITY ZONE!" in honor of the poor mod whom used profanity and flamed me XD.

I expect you to T8 next time--don't let me down.

*kneels down*

Yes, my lord.

Dude, I came close; had I won I would've been in top 8. I'm slowly ascending the ladder...

If you must run Card of Sanctity, I'd try another D.D. Survivor. Also, I'd loose Magic Cylinders.

I love how you guys think when I have CoS I magically have a Survivor on my side of the field. I've only used the combo...maybe twice the 6 someodd months I've used CoS XD.

Also, I'd consider possibly running Chainsaw Insect over GEAF, since Chainsaw may give them marginal hand advantage, but gives you massive field presence.

Sorry dude, but after being pwnzr'd by a FF I'd rather NOT give them a hand XD. Even then, Chainsaw only gets its effect by hittin their mons, not directly. Interesting suggestion I may take into consideration. However...it's just a bit situational. I'll try it...

do you play with english cards? i say take them all out and go get some OCG with chicken scratches on the cards...ROFL xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

...Get out of my thread dude. Seriously. Self-hating American comi? That's contradicting. I wasn't born here, nor were either of my parents, so, I'm not really all that American besides living here, and, I'll have you know that, while I dislike America, I don't agree with the philosophies of Communism. Of course, whatever government style I agree with...

China > America, and I think we all agree.

Now...

RULE ADDED:

NO KNAVES ALOUD!

[baseball boy]

- Magic Cylinder - Dust Tornado + 2 Widespread Ruin

[Crazee Adam]

sorry if it was me who got ur thread shut down last time, but on to the deck. I would say 10/10 it's undobutably the masterpiece that the last was.

[Jawzfactor]

Well, al I can say is.... its good. Now that your runnin Premature, its better than before. Keep it as is, unless you find the need to go more CC for some strange and stupid reason. 9/10.

[compaqmac]

hissy fiit??? Maybe you should learn the BOARD RULES BETTER..Your topic was too big.Go ahead and make another comment and let's put those matching ip's up.

[Mirageknight#1]

maybe try to add in more D.D. Survivors to help out with card of santiniy? just a thought, nice deck 9/10 r/f my dark scorp. deck

[Comet]

hissy fiit??? Maybe you should learn the BOARD RULES BETTER..Your topic was too big mr. Japanese dude that isn't even close to being one. Go ahead and make another comment and let's put those matching ip's up.
You know, you really have no room to talk. I see nowhere in the Pojo rules that any thread as big as Manzuri's last one has to be deleted, and I have a feeling that you blatantly misused your powers as a mod to delete it because you don't like Manzuri. I read his most recent tournament report thread, and while it was entertaining, I must say that I am shocked that a moderator behaved in such a way. You guys are the big kahunas; we lesser guys are supposed to look up to you. You guys are the peacekeepers, the advice givers...you are the Gods of pojo.biz/board/. I must admit that I slightly resent WildWill, but I respect him because he is a moderator and he is only trying to do his job. You, however, are...give me a moment to calm down, I don't want to start a flame war.

*Sighs*

The point I'm trying to make is that you should not be saying this because you have no respect for Manzuri as a person. Am I saying he should be a mod? Am I saying that everybody should respect him? No. But I am saying that you have no room to insult him as a Pojo moderator, slap him in the face by deleting his thread, and then claim you were following Pojo rules. That's a blatant abuse of power, and you seem to be out to get Manzuri because you - a MOD, of all people - insulted him and claimed he had no friends and tried to tar and feather him in a sense. Well, guess what? I consider myself to be his friend, and even though I've never met him and live more than halfway across the continent, I STILL consider him my friend. This proves you wrong when you said he didn't have any friends, because I am LIVING PROOF otherwise.

I have some advice for you. Whatever your beef is with Manzuri, get rid of it. When you get to know him, he can be a nice guy, so give him that chance. Also, try to exhibit behavior more befitting of a moderator; I can't show respect for someone who has a title that demands respect when they can't even respect anybody else. At least ExMoD explained to me WHY he locked one of my threads, and he showed RESPECT to me. I can respect him for that. Show that kind of respect over those you supervise, and maybe you will regain some of the respect you lost on Manzuri's threads.

Manzuri, keep up the good work. All of it, especially with this deck. Tell us how the Premature Burial works out, because heaven knows it has helped me.

[I Love Manzuri]

- Magic Cylinder - Dust Tornado + 2 Widespread Ruin

Widespread is icky. The people I went up against regs couldn't make use of it, and they ran CC. I don't run CC, ergo, I'd have even less reason to run it.

sorry if it was me who got ur thread shut down last time, but on to the deck. I would say 10/10 it's undobutably the masterpiece that the last was.

It wasn't shut down; it was deleted, and it wasn't your fault. Much thanks; I'm glad this whole deck has caused a bit of hubub on my part; this deck basically gained me a miniature rep in the Advanced forum seeing as I really only dwell in OCG cards.

Well, al I can say is.... its good. Now that your runnin Premature, its better than before. Keep it as is, unless you find the need to go more CC for some strange and stupid reason. 9/10.

Trust me dude, that won't be happening XD. The only reason I even had 2 Brains in here was because I wanted as few bad tops as I could, and Brain was just great, especially because topping a monarch seems to be a staple during reg play XD. I will admit; I've considered a few CC things; taking out Cylinder for Sak, taking out CoS for Avy. Well, we'll see with the new banned list; for now, the ONLY thing is Prema, and you can take my word on it!

maybe try to add in more D.D. Survivors to help out with card of santiniy? just a thought, nice deck 9/10 r/f my dark scorp. deck

Thanks to the on-going suggestion of adding in Survivors, I'm going to go ahead and add that to the Rules section.

NEW RULE ADDED: No suggesting the addition of D. D. Survivor. I don't care for your logic, I will never EVER add a 2nd D. D. Survivor. Ever.

You know, you really have no room to talk. I see nowhere in the Pojo rules that any thread as big as Manzuri's last one has to be deleted, and I have a feeling that you blatantly misused your powers as a mod to delete it because you don't like Manzuri. I read his most recent tournament report thread, and while it was entertaining, I must say that I am shocked that a moderator behaved in such a way. You guys are the big kahunas; we lesser guys are supposed to look up to you. You guys are the peacekeepers, the advice givers...you are the Gods of pojo.biz/board/. I must admit that I slightly resent WildWill, but I respect him because he is a moderator and he is only trying to do his job. You, however, are...give me a moment to calm down, I don't want to start a flame war.

*Sighs*

The point I'm trying to make is that you should not be saying this because you have no respect for Manzuri as a person. Am I saying he should be a mod? Am I saying that everybody should respect him? No. But I am saying that you have no room to insult him as a Pojo moderator, slap him in the face by deleting his thread, and then claim you were following Pojo rules. That's a blatant abuse of power, and you seem to be out to get Manzuri because you - a MOD, of all people - insulted him and claimed he had no friends and tried to tar and feather him in a sense. Well, guess what? I consider myself to be his friend, and even though I've never met him and live more than halfway across the continent, I STILL consider him my friend. This proves you wrong when you said he didn't have any friends, because I am LIVING PROOF otherwise.

I have some advice for you. Whatever your beef is with Manzuri, get rid of it. When you get to know him, he can be a nice guy, so give him that chance. Also, try to exhibit behavior more befitting of a moderator; I can't show respect for someone who has a title that demands respect when they can't even respect anybody else. At least ExMoD explained to me WHY he locked one of my threads, and he showed RESPECT to me. I can respect him for that. Show that kind of respect over those you supervise, and maybe you will regain some of the respect you lost on Manzuri's threads.

BOOM! F'in owned! I decided I'd highlite what you said about you being my friend, because the people in that Tournament Forum (though it was honestly Evan Vargas more than it was compaqmac) seemed to think I was like, some loser newb with no rep, which, quite obviously is the complete opposite of what I really am. Also, WildWill isn't a moderator; he's an administrator. A super mod, if you will. However, I thank both you and YamiBakuraFan for speaking out so I didn't have to; could've put my ass in the slammer TWICE XD.

Manzuri, keep up the good work. All of it, especially with this deck. Tell us how the Premature Burial works out, because heaven knows it has helped me.

I most certainly will; I hope it's not another Tetran XD

[wertalace]

I think w/ 2 CoS you need at least two DDS and prolly one return.

[Comet]

BOOM! F'in owned! I decided I'd highlite what you said about you being my friend, because the people in that Tournament Forum (though it was honestly Evan Vargas more than it was compaqmac) seemed to think I was like, some loser newb with no rep, which, quite obviously is the complete opposite of what I really am. Also, WildWill isn't a moderator; he's an administrator. A super mod, if you will. However, I thank both you and YamiBakuraFan for speaking out so I didn't have to; could've put my ass in the slammer TWICE XD.

I most certainly will; I hope it's not another Tetran XD
1. Well, friends help each other out, no matter WHO insults them. I wouldn't want to be Evan Vargas if he shows up on this thread...

2. Oh, boy now I'm in trouble. I think getting WildWill's title wrong is a bannable offense, so I offer my sincerest apologies to him.

3. Hey, what are friends for? Let me know if you need anything else.

4. ...OK, I'm confused. What does the Tetran thing mean?

Also, there should be a PM waiting for you in your inbox from me. Can you please reply to it?

I think w/ 2 CoS you need at least two DDS and prolly one return.
Many people agree with you on this; however, like Manzuri has said many times, DDS would only serve here as a beatstick, and RftDD cannot just be splashed randomly into any deck. I am certain that there is a reason that Manzuri runs GEAF, but I don't know it...may I ask?

[WildWill]

Um...I'm a super-mod, not an admin.

[I Love Manzuri]

1. Well, friends help each other out, no matter WHO insults them. I wouldn't want to be Evan Vargas if he shows up on this thread...

2. Oh, boy now I'm in trouble. I think getting WildWill's title wrong is a bannable offense, so I offer my sincerest apologies to him.

3. Hey, what are friends for? Let me know if you need anything else.

4. ...OK, I'm confused. What does the Tetran thing mean?

Also, there should be a PM waiting for you in your inbox from me. Can you please reply to it?

Additional Comment:

Many people agree with you on this; however, like Manzuri has said many times, DDS would only serve here as a beatstick, and RftDD cannot just be splashed randomly into any deck. I am certain that there is a reason that Manzuri runs GEAF, but I don't know it...may I ask?

1. Dude, trust me, Vargas treats me like a nobody; he wouldn't be as foolish as to actually come here, thus disproving that I'm a nobody and proving my point in that I'm actually one of he more famous names among the board (perhaps not as famous as my previous UN cyber ape, but...)

2. Hah, I don't think Will cares if you called him mod; he himself goes by "Captain Super Mod" XD

4. Hmm, maybe you didn't join in. This deck has seen many fun, tested cards. Among them were: Confiscation, Bubbleman, and...BES Tetran XD. I had this theory that Tetran was better than Mobius, but, upon using Tetran...yeah, Mobius was tons better XD. I'm just saying I hope Premature isn't a total flop like Tetty (Bubble and Confo DID work, 's just, there's a LOT better).

5. Elite is a mercenary; he gets the job done, then leaves. See, his job isn't just to attack, attack, attack, like a regular beatstick (mostly, hah, Cyber Dragon). His job is to attack, defend, and serve as basically an offensive-defensive shield. Mostly, though, it's also a great intimidation tool; my opponents always rush to get rid of the game thing post-haste, and certainly their Don won't be the one getting rid of it XD. It's very anti-meta and serves as a great Merc whenever I don't want my DDA or the like to hit their Sak.

That's all.

[Comet]

Um...I'm a super-mod, not an admin.
Well, I still apologize for getting your title wrong.

Anyways, anybody have anything else for Manzuri's deck?

[I Love Manzuri]

Um...I'm a super-mod, not an admin.

...So...

there's mod...

then super mod..

then admin?

...><s.fdhufidshffhjks

Sorry, my head just convulsed. I've had about enough discussion about titles XD.

[Comet]

1. Dude, trust me, Vargas treats me like a nobody; he wouldn't be as foolish as to actually come here, thus disproving that I'm a nobody and proving my point in that I'm actually one of he more famous names among the board (perhaps not as famous as my previous UN cyber ape, but...)

2. Hah, I don't think Will cares if you called him mod; he himself goes by "Captain Super Mod" XD

4. Hmm, maybe you didn't join in. This deck has seen many fun, tested cards. Among them were: Confiscation, Bubbleman, and...BES Tetran XD. I had this theory that Tetran was better than Mobius, but, upon using Tetran...yeah, Mobius was tons better XD. I'm just saying I hope Premature isn't a total flop like Tetty (Bubble and Confo DID work, 's just, there's a LOT better).

5. Elite is a mercenary; he gets the job done, then leaves. See, his job isn't just to attack, attack, attack, like a regular beatstick (mostly, hah, Cyber Dragon). His job is to attack, defend, and serve as basically an offensive-defensive shield. Mostly, though, it's also a great intimidation tool; my opponents always rush to get rid of the game thing post-haste, and certainly their Don won't be the one getting rid of it XD. It's very anti-meta and serves as a great Merc whenever I don't want my DDA or the like to hit their Sak.

That's all.
1. Well, it would still be funny if he showed up...and who the hell is this Cyber Ape everybody keeps talking about?

2. Well, OK...I just don't want to invoke the wrath of WildWill.

3. What happened to numero tres?

4. Well, it has potential in Machine decks, that's all I'll say. And did you see my Gallery of Heroes? I actually built a Bubbleman deck. Go figure.

5. Well, go with what works, I guess. Man, I wish I had one of those.

Oh, and from your most recent post...yeah, me too.

Again, anybody have anything else for Mr. Manzuri that doesn't result in a flame war?

*Laughs hysterically at his own joke.*

[LoffterT]

Seeing as sooooomebody got all boo-hooey, they locked my thread, and, thus, here's the version 3. Seriously, I had 500+ first time, 450+ 2nd time, now, hopefully, we can get this one pretty close ><.

Monsters: (17)

Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
Mobius the Frost Monarch

Exarion Universe
Exarion Universe
Spirit Reaper
Spirit Reaper
Goblin Elite Attack Force
Exiled Force
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Reflect Bounder
Mystic Swordsman LV2
Drillroid
Sangan
D. D. Survivor
D. D. Assailant
D. D. Warrior Lady
Magician of Faith

Magic: (14)

Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Card of Sanctity
Card of Sanctity
Brain Control
Book of Moon
Nobleman of Crossout
Scapegoat
Dark Hole
Mystical Space Typhoon
Heavy Storm
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Swords of Sealing Light

Traps: (9)

Dust Tornado
Dust Tornado
Sakuretsu Armor
Sakuretsu Armor
Bottomless Trap Hole
Bottomless Trap Hole
Magic Cylinder
Call of the Haunted
Torrential Tribute

Accomplishments:

Oct regs: 24th, 6-2
Dec regs: 14th, 6-2
Feb regs: 10th, 6-2

RULE #1 (added: Feb 27, 2006)

NO KNAVES ALOUD! If you're a knave, get the F out. You're not wanted here. So far, the following people have been labeled knaves and are not aloud to post here:

ATX (bRoKeN)

Thank you for your courtesy, and remember to throw your TRASH away ^_^

Rule #2 (added: Feb 27, 2006)

DON'T suggest the adding of D. D. Survivor, Return from the Different Dimension, or any more RFG-related cards. This is NOT an RFG deck in any way nor is it a Card of Sanctity deck. This deck will never, EVER see multiples of D. D. Survivor, or singles of RftDD. DDA is subject to be limited, but, even if not, I will never run multiple DDAs. So, to save yourself some time, DON'T suggest the add of a Survivor the cards related; it will be ignored.


heres one you havnt thought of, maybe.

Mefist the Infernal General
Attrib: Dark
Type: Fiend/Effect
Level:5
Atk: 1800
Def: 1700
When this card attacks with an ATK that is higher than the Def of your opponent's Defense Position monster, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent's Life Points. When this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent's Life Points, select 1 card from your opponent's hand randomly and discard it.

you like trample. you like hand advantage. the only thing you dont really like is tributes, but this may be one of those suggestions you like.

-...ah... an iggy and + a general. your adding a star, but your gaining effects. yeah i know... i wasted my time... check my ancient gear deck please.

[Rai Kerensky]

Why in the hell do you have Card of Sanctity with no support or real ways to take advantage of it?

[WildWill]

Oh and ATX(Broken) earned a spam warning for going way off topic often.

STAY ON TOPIC.


And any time a deck thread goes more than, oh 100 posts or so, it's fair game to get locked or deleted.

[Comet]

Why in the hell do you have Card of Sanctity with no support or real ways to take advantage of it?
He's explained it numerous times. He might have crap in his hand and nothing on the field, and he'll use CoS and get good stuff and wind up winning.

And Loffter's suggestion might end up working, Manzuri. I'd recommend looking into it, but that's just me.

Edit in response to WildWill's comment: Oh. -_-

[I Love Manzuri]

1. Well, it would still be funny if he showed up...and who the hell is this Cyber Ape everybody keeps talking about?

Erm, cyber ape was my previous username; I had a 5,000+ post-count that would easily be towards 8,000+ had I not been banned. cyber ape is where it all started: The Crazy ***, No Such Thing as Aggro, all my fanfics, The Biggest Gallery in Pojo History, everything, I owe it all to my prior name; my rep, just...everything. Manzuri is here obviously due to its ban, and, hopefully Manzuri can just become the new CA (though it'd be absolutely stellar to see cyber ape come back; it would surprise the OCG forum).

3. What happened to numero tres?

Oh, err, right! One for all and all for one! And all that good stuff...XD

Why in the hell do you have Card of Sanctity with no support or real ways to take advantage of it?

Ad...van...tage?...o_O...

Dude, CoS is a splashable CC card; there's no way to make "advantage" out of it same as Smashing Ground; you just play it. It's draw power dude.

And any time a deck thread goes more than, oh 100 posts or so, it's fair game to get locked or deleted.

Damn, lol, I guess I'm glad my previous 2 ones had 500 posts each XD.

Additional Comment:
No, Loffer, you didn't waste your time. I'll admit I like Mefist (hey I even suggested people CC-splash Robbin Goblin!), however, in today's game, ATK really does batter, and, thus, I run Exarion instead of Enraged and he like. Mefist is cool, but, I'd rather run an Airknight personally.

[Comet]

OK, now I feel rather awkward...

So, how do you feel about Mefist?

Edit: Nevermind...

So, does anybody have anything else that's POSITIVE to say to Manzuri about his deck?

[Idunnoe]

hmm, I posted here earlier today but I think it was deleted...

ah well it prettymuch boiled down to my suggesting you try out giant trunade because you're running sowrds, preme, call, and snatch, plus offensive pushes.
Also maybe nobleman of extermination, or rush recklessly.
I said someother stuff I can't remember but oh well, check out the deck in my sig if you please.


[EDIT]
also, what's with Frozencomet090 geeking out over you and your deck? No offense ment or anything It just seems rather strange to me...do you two know each other or something?

[Comet]

hmm, I posted here earlier today but I think it was deleted...

ah well it prettymuch boiled down to my suggesting you try out giant trunade because you're running sowrds, preme, call, and snatch, plus offensive pushes.
Also maybe nobleman of extermination, or rush recklessly.
I said someother stuff I can't remember but oh well, check out the deck in my sig if you please.
Ya know, Rush Recklessly could work with Mefist...

[ATX(bRoKeN)]

Ya know, Rush Recklessly could work with Mefist...
lol...it works with any monster =/

[WildWill]

You know, you really have no room to talk. I see nowhere in the Pojo rules that any thread as big as Manzuri's last one has to be deleted, and I have a feeling that you blatantly misused your powers as a mod to delete it because you don't like Manzuri.

Any time a thread gets too large the mods, at their discretion can lock it or delete it. Nuff said. If it's especially spammy, we delete it so that you call can't raise your post counts by spam.

I read his most recent tournament report thread, and while it was entertaining, I must say that I am shocked that a moderator behaved in such a way. You guys are the big kahunas; we lesser guys are supposed to look up to you. You guys are the peacekeepers, the advice givers...you are the Gods of pojo.biz/board/.

OH GET OVER YOURSELF. We're shocked on a daily basis as to what our users will post. IT'S JUST A THREAD. GOD you put too much emphasis on ownership of your posts...guess what, THIS ISN'T YOUR BOARD, it's Pojo's. We are his designated deputies. If he didn't like what we did, he'd tell us.

Funny thing, it wasn't even your thread!

I must admit that I slightly resent WildWill, but I respect him because he is a moderator and he is only trying to do his job. You, however, are...give me a moment to calm down, I don't want to start a flame war.

And I care because why? Oh right, I don't. And flaming a moderator, especially one who does as much work as Compaq does, is a VERY quick way to the permanent ban hood.

The point I'm trying to make is that you should not be saying this because you have no respect for Manzuri as a person. Am I saying he should be a mod? Am I saying that everybody should respect him? No. But I am saying that you have no room to insult him as a Pojo moderator, slap him in the face by deleting his thread, and then claim you were following Pojo rules.


Actually, he does. See, we have access to all the things that you don't. Like User Warnings. Compaq can see EVERY time Manzuri's been warned for various things. And it's NOT a slap in the face deleting his thread. Again you are placing far too much emphasis on this board being your own personal property. Or I should say your posts on this board being your personal property. THEY ARE NOT your personal property. LEGALLY SPEAKING you agreed to give up your intellectual property rights to pretty much anything posted on this board when you signed up. Not that we're going to do anything with it, but your posts, once you post them, are not yours. Get it? Got it? Good.

Oh and another thing, anything that a regular mod deletes can still be viewed by super-mods and above. I looked at the thread in question, and I back up Compaq's assessment 100%.

That's a blatant abuse of power, and you seem to be out to get Manzuri because you - a MOD, of all people - insulted him and claimed he had no friends and tried to tar and feather him in a sense. Well, guess what? I consider myself to be his friend, and even though I've never met him and live more than halfway across the continent, I STILL consider him my friend. This proves you wrong when you said he didn't have any friends, because I am LIVING PROOF otherwise.

Whatever dude.

I have some advice for you. Whatever your beef is with Manzuri, get rid of it. When you get to know him, he can be a nice guy, so give him that chance. Also, try to exhibit behavior more befitting of a moderator; I can't show respect for someone who has a title that demands respect when they can't even respect anybody else. At least ExMoD explained to me WHY he locked one of my threads, and he showed RESPECT to me. I can respect him for that. Show that kind of respect over those you supervise, and maybe you will regain some of the respect you lost on Manzuri's threads.

Let me clue you into a BIG SECRET that no one seems to realize. MOST MODS do SO MUCH MODDING that we don't even REMEMBER why we deleted something days later, nor do we CARE to have your respect. We DEMAND you respect the board rules and our decisions, and if you don't respect our rules and our decisions, you incur our wrath, and you bring upon yourself a punishment.

But we do not desire, nor need your respect. If you want to respect us for doing our jobs, that's great. Thanks. But we don't need you to respect US as people. And we CERTAINLY don't need to respect you as people. You earn our respect with what you post. Manzuri hasn't posted ANYTHING that I've seen that's a worthwhile contribution to this message board. Then again, I can't claim to have read every single one of his posts. I can tell you that the ones I've read were not contributing anything to the community, basically he likes to post stories he thinks are funny, but are really thinly veiled flames. But he's still here for the moment, which much mean that I think he CAN contribute something to the board. Because if I didn't he'd just be banned. I do have that power.

In any event, Manzuri can CERTAINLY defend himself, and doesn't need YOU to be doing it for him. About the only thing YOU have accomplished is you put yourself on my radar. That's not necessarily a good thing.

Additional Comment:
Erm, cyber ape was my previous username; I had a 5,000+ post-count that would easily be towards 8,000+ had I not been banned. cyber ape is where it all started: The Crazy ***, No Such Thing as Aggro, all my fanfics, The Biggest Gallery in Pojo History, everything, I owe it all to my prior name; my rep, just...everything. Manzuri is here obviously due to its ban, and, hopefully Manzuri can just become the new CA (though it'd be absolutely stellar to see cyber ape come back; it would surprise the OCG forum).



You do know that multiple accounts is grounds for IP banning right? I just looked at your last account (Cyber Ape). You're NEVER getting it back.

And I have half a mind to permanently ban this name too...and ask for an IP ban.

But I'm feeling generous.

Suffice to say, you are on your LAST user warning. You had better be on your BEST behavior with this name going forward. Or I won't hesitate to pull the trigger on this one.

[I Love Manzuri]

lol...it works with any monster =/

He means work well, quite obviously... (oh yeah and it doesn't work on Horus LV6. GG)

All the Will said

Wow, I've never seen so many words posted by you at one time XD.

Well, you proved some good points I'm sure Comet already knew but may not have. However, you were missing the chief point behind Comet's argument, and that is simple: as a moderator, it is your job to maintain stability among these boards. Now, thus far every moderator I've seen has done just that.

However, the moment somebody breaks the rules is the moment a warning is issued. That's how the United States Law System works, I'm pretty sure that's how Pojo works. Now, I'm sure compaq does his job just like anybody else.

However, the sheer FACT that he used PROFANITY in an inflammitory way (as in, not in the Fanfic section), flamed me, and the FACT that he held his grudge so highly that he went to a thread that had no relation to him and deleted it is just disgraceful. It really, truly is. Now, when he locked the thread that he did, my tournament thread, that was fine, because there was atleast somewhat a legit reason behind it.

However, going to a completely autonomous thread and deleting it out of anger was simply unprofessional, and...doesn't make a moderator of all people look good, ESPECIALLY after flaming. 's alot of board rules broken, even if they weren't heavily broken.

Now, I have no problem with my previous thread being deleted and my tourney report locked; I'm sure everyone who wanted to saw it, and I'm sure everyone who has wanted to post here has.

I've moved on past the whole incident. Compaq brought it up, and, while you're right; I do not need anybody to cover my behind, Comet did so because he knew had I spoken back it may have...resulted quite badly.

So, Will, I appreciate your words since they're true. However, while your statement remains true, so does Comet. Comet is definitely more rebellious than I, and, thus, I'll even agree he ought to watch himself XD. However, the man's got a point, and I'd appreciate it if it weren't overshadowed.

Now then, the whole incident is over. It's apparent Texans still hate me. It's also apparent I placed 10th =D

So...who wants to talk about the deck? I know I do! ^_^

[ATX(bRoKeN)]

I placed 10th =D

So...who wants to talk about the deck? I know I do! ^_^

i do...

how on earth did this deck work? i see it being lucky and full of draws that have to fallow suit. to me it looks like you have to stack it or something, i dunno. but can you tell me how it works and what are your plans to top 8 with this deck:confused:

RULE #1 (added: Feb 27, 2006)

NO KNAVES ALOUD! If you're a knave, get the F out. You're not wanted here. So far, the following people have been labeled knaves and are not aloud to post here:

ATX (bRoKeN)

Thank you for your courtesy, and remember to throw your TRASH away ^_^

ok just to clean the slate...i want to post in here! im wondering how this works. you posted the deck, i want to know how it works...thats all! please respect me for wondering about your post. i just dont under stand it! at least just fill me in and shine the light on the darkness of your deck in my mind! sorry if i dont under stand what the point of it is, please bare with me on this!

[FURIA328]

BTW: how did you get a 1 star =/

Mods rate the threads and 2 have given it 1 star. >_>

[I Love Manzuri]

Dude, peaceful talk isn't going to score you any points; you're a knave, and are not welcome.

However, I'll be courteous and just treat your statement on a general standpoint.

It doesn't take a Merchant Pot Turbo to make a deck work. It's simple: good monsters accompanied by good magic and traps = attack em during my turn and their own. Most decks revolve around attacking them during your turn and only your turn. This is a very swiss-army type of deck, for it has cards for all sorts of situations. When you have a deck filled with Cyber, DDA, Merchants, Avarice, etc, you're basically running a deck filled with non-concordant situational crap cards. All 4 of those are very, very dependent. My deck is situated for one thing, and one thing only:

Independence. Nearly every card in my deck functions relatively well on its own, without waiting for other cards or for my opponent. People fail to realize this facet, and, thus, they build some idiotic CC/FFC and scrub-out big time, then boo-hoo on Pojo crying "Lucksack!" over and over. (hangars sitting dripped in oil, crying LUCKSACK!)

How could I stack this deck? Seriously, the only kinds of things I could stack would be...hmm, I guess a Book next to my Mystic and a Brain next to my Thesty? o_O. No, I don't stack it, unless you include my initial shuffle which is generally monster-magic-monster-trap etc etc and so fourth, which isn't...really stacking (seeing as at regs my biggest lost consisted of 5 monsters, 1 magic).

Plans for top 8? How does one "plan" for top 8? If you win you win if you lose you lose. I got to the final round: had I won I would've been in 3rd place (see, I was already in 6th place, so a victory would've sliced the competition in half, putting me in 3rd or so I believe). But, I lost, and thus got issued the great place of 10th, which overshadows all the rest of my records putting me at 10th best duelist in the state of Texas ^_^.

So, really, I'm just going to hope for more luck. And, lol, that Prema actually works ><

Additional Comment:
Mods rate the threads and 2 have given it 1 star. >_>

Damn, my last two got 4 stars. I'd summon Senseker whom issued the 4 stars but I'm sure he's quite tired of seeing this deck by now XD.

[Crazee Adam]

Oh and ATX(Broken) earned a spam warning for going way off topic often.

STAY ON TOPIC.


And any time a deck thread goes more than, oh 100 posts or so, it's fair game to get locked or deleted.

woh, when did Will get on this thread. When I saw his Avitar I was scared. BTW why did some of my posts get erased from this thread.

p.s. I didn't know 100 was all it took. That means it's hunting day for the adminstraitors and mods.

[ATX(bRoKeN)]

i will never post in this thread again will!

[Emnm]

Woah... this deck is totally strange, yet superb. It is a refreshment that people are not always using the CC cards and someone has attempted to use Card of Sanctity. It may be unorthodox, but it works. Sorry, but I can't find any fixes that will further augment this deck. 9/10

Could you please R/F my Descent to Cocytus deck?

[Crazee Adam]

Woah... this deck is totally strange, yet superb. It is a refreshment that people are not always using the CC cards and someone has attempted to use Card of Sanctity. It may be unorthodox, but it works. Sorry, but I can't find any fixes that will further augment this deck. 9/10

Could you please R/F my Descent to Cocytus deck?

I know! He uses CoS as some kind of wierd draw power. He says it works really well if you can use it right. Maybe I'll try it out myself.

[Blake`]

O.O i dont know what happened and honestly i dont care, and it isnt any of my business........so anyway....i cant believe i never noticed you didnt have premy in!!!! o.O i dont like chainsaw in here, dont do it. it turns all thier monsters you atk with it a dekoichi or a dark mimic lv 3 i guess would be a better comparison, but the monsters dont even have to die!!!! they activate goats, draw, waboku, all 4 goats atk the chainsaw insect, +4 set zero gravity and save iggy or another trampler for next turn when chainsaw is in defense!!!! o.O scary. chainsaw is good with support, but it certainly isnt splashable like alot of your cards. keep up the good work. we still havent dueled......we will get to it. ttyl. thanks for the post on my coffin deck.

[I Love Manzuri]

I know! He uses CoS as some kind of wierd draw power. He says it works really well if you can use it right. Maybe I'll try it out myself.

Looking at your sig you have a:

Bazoo Deck, a Dinosaur deck, and a 14trap deck...

...yeah I'd say you'll have poor results in all 3. It's splashable in the sense that any deck can use it, but, only a few DESERVE to use it ;)

[smileydan]

i like this deck but im new to the different uses of CoS could you fill me in on it a little so i can get how it really works with the deck?

[Mr 178]

Exarion Universe and Reflect Bounder in the same deck? Im loving the change of pace and it looks like it works.
You seem to not care for the DD monsters but how bout a DD Gate or 2 to combo with that Card of Sanctity. Or even a Giant Trunade maybe.
8.5/10 for originality sake.
How do I post a link for my decks?

[GKFan]

nice deck 9/10 no changes plz fix my last turn deck

[The Tourist]

i do...

how on earth did this deck work? i see it being lucky and full of draws that have to fallow suit. to me it looks like you have to stack it or something, i dunno. but can you tell me how it works and what are your plans to top 8 with this deck:confused:


ok just to clean the slate...i want to post in here! im wondering how this works. you posted the deck, i want to know how it works...thats all! please respect me for wondering about your post. i just dont under stand it! at least just fill me in and shine the light on the darkness of your deck in my mind! sorry if i dont under stand what the point of it is, please bare with me on this!

Ummm...well...um...

First off, this was money:

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATX(bRoKeN)
lol...it works with any monster =/


He means work well, quite obviously... (oh yeah and it doesn't work on Horus LV6. GG)


Awsome!!!!!!!


Dude, your not being funny anymore. You're ATX(Broken). You pioneered Swap-Box control...LOL!!!! Surely you can figure out what make's this deck such an Azz beater.

to me it looks like you have to stack it or something

Man, how lame was that comment.

Manzuri, I don't want your heart to skip a beat, but how about Giant Trunade???? Think about it...;)

So, with that said...maybe:

-1x BTH
+1x Giant Trunade

and the thread keeps going, and going, and going, and going....
Talk to you soon...

RoFlavin

[Comet]

Exarion Universe and Reflect Bounder in the same deck? Im loving the change of pace and it looks like it works.
You seem to not care for the DD monsters but how bout a DD Gate or 2 to combo with that Card of Sanctity. Or even a Giant Trunade maybe.
8.5/10 for originality sake.
How do I post a link for my decks?
Manzuri's not on right now, so I'll just say this:

You'll notice how this deck lacks Tsukuyomi. Today, I was dueling a friend and found that my Tsukuyomi only worked in combination with my other monsters: flipping a Goblin Attack Force down then up so I can kill my opponent on the turn after it attacked; flipping down a Newdoria so my Mystic Swordsman LV4 could painlessly (for him) exterminate it. So I must admit that Manzuri was right that Tsuku is a combo card.

Now, Manzuri has said that he wants the cards in this deck to be able to work independently from each other. His Goblin Elite Attack Force does not get any support because it's a one-hit mercenary (although my Goblins like to hit twice). He uses Brain Control, not to Tribute an opposing monster, but to hit his opponent up with their own Cyber Dragon. However, he does not like running combo cards, such as Tsukuyomi. Therefore, I can say with almost absolute certainty that, no matter how good this fix may be, Manzuri won't take it. He's just not a fan of combos in this deck *shrugs*.

[booger]

Seeing as sooooomebody got all boo-hooey, they locked my thread, and, thus, here's the version 3. Seriously, I had 500+ first time, 450+ 2nd time, now, hopefully, we can get this one pretty close ><.

Monsters

Zaborg
Zaborg
Thestalos
Mobius the Frost Monarch

Exarion Universe
Exarion Universe
Spirit Reaper
Spirit Reaper
Goblin Elite Attack Force
Exiled Force
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Don
Mystic Swordsman LV2
Drillroid
Sangan
D. D. Survivor
D. D. Assailant
D. D. Warrior Lady
Merchant

Magic

Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Card of Sanctity
Card of Sanctity
Brain Control
Brain Control
Nobleman of Crossout
Dark Hole
Mystical Space Typhoon
Heavy Storm
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial

Traps

Dust Tornado
Dust Tornado
Sakeretsu Armor
Sakuretsu Armor
Sakuretsu Armor
Bottomless Trap Hole
Bottomless Trap Hole
Magic Cylinder
Call of the Haunted
Torrential Tribute

Accomplishments:

Oct regs: 24th, 6-2
Dec regs: 14th, 6-2
Feb regs: 10th, 6-2

RULE #1 (added: Feb 27, 2006)

NO KNAVES ALOUD! If you're a knave, get the F out. You're not wanted here. So far, the following people have been labeled knaves and are not aloud to post here:

ATX (bRoKeN)

Thank you for your courtesy, and remember to throw your TRASH away ^_^

Rule #2 (added: Feb 27, 2006)

DON'T suggest the adding of D. D. Survivor, Return from the Different Dimension, or any more RFG-related cards. This is NOT an RFG deck in any way nor is it a Card of Sanctity deck. This deck will never, EVER see multiples of D. D. Survivor, or singles of RftDD. DDA is subject to be limited, but, even if not, I will never run multiple DDAs. So, to save yourself some time, DON'T suggest the add of a Survivor the cards related; it will be ignored.

fixed.
R/Fhttp://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=266410

[The Tourist]

I can say with almost absolute certainty that, no matter how good this fix may be, Manzuri won't take it. He's just not a fan of combos in this deck *shrugs*.

He's not a fan of combos??? I wouldn't say that. He's a fan of "his" combos for "his" deck. You're telling me he doesn't like snatching their DDA or Don or etc..., and then sacking it for Mobius or Thesty????? That's a combo right there. To say he's not a fan of combos...not buying it, sorry.

[I Love Manzuri]

i like this deck but im new to the different uses of CoS could you fill me in on it a little so i can get how it really works with the deck?

You'll find the answer a few responses back ^_^

Exarion Universe and Reflect Bounder in the same deck? Im loving the change of pace and it looks like it works.
You seem to not care for the DD monsters but how bout a DD Gate or 2 to combo with that Card of Sanctity. Or even a Giant Trunade maybe.
8.5/10 for originality sake.
How do I post a link for my decks?

Gate and Trunade; 2 horrible, horrible situational cards that mock already-existing better cards. Interesting suggestion, but Trunade is just shoit on a plate, and Gate necessitates its own deck.

Dude, your not being funny anymore. You're ATX(Broken). You pioneered Swap-Box control...LOL!!!! Surely you can figure out what make's this deck such an Azz beater.

He did NOT pioneer swap-box; my Swap Box deck existed long before his, I can guarantee you of this. Even if mine didn't, my personal Swap-Box deck came from a friend's idea, not my own, so, I just don't think ATX pioneered it.

He's just not a fan of combos in this deck *shrugs*.

I am, 's just I've learned from experience through going to reggies thrice that bad tops aren't worth running. While tribs and Nobleman and the like tend to be horrid tops, they generally serve their purpose. Tsuk's ONLY purpose is to feed off of OTHERS; it NEEDS SOME OTHER CARD to work. That's why I don't run it; not independent, and just shoit.

...No Booger you just killed it. You gave me 4 tribs, a horrid idea, and an even more horrid idea of them being Zaborgs ><. If anything they should be Granmargs. Zaborg is just janky beyond belief, and, well...OK you just killed my deck. I apologize if I'm going Simon Cowell on you but my god...4 tribs? Eww dude...eww. SC does not work.

He's not a fan of combos??? I wouldn't say that. He's a fan of "his" combos for "his" deck. You're telling me he doesn't like snatching their DDA or Don or etc..., and then sacking it for Mobius or Thesty????? That's a combo right there. To say he's not a fan of combos...not buying it, sorry.

Well, the whole thing is simply this:

Combos in my deck exist because it's one independent card working in concordance with 1 other independent card. Tsuk is a dependent card, thus, it's already crappy by default, whereas say...Book and Drill, 2 independent cards, just so happen to conviniently work together, thus I run both, because they're good from a double-sided spectrum. Tsuk is good from a single-sided spectrum, thus, it's jank, just like Blade Knight, that piece of trash >:|

[Ammit]

bout time i post on the new one. this deck is amazing. ive decided to run it again after i get the cards for it again(stupid slump). as always 10/10 just because this deck has a special place in my heart as the deck that owns all. keep up the good work manzuri

[Comet]

...I kinda meant cards that require combos in oder to work properly. The Tsukuyomi currently resting in my hand is now owrthless because I don't have anything to use it on. However, there are combos in Manzuri's deck that he can certainly use, but the cards are not dependant on these combos.

Actually, Trunade can be a mini-Heavy Storm in OTK decks, but yeah, it's pretty much usless here. It's not, however, "shoit".

But seriously, Tsuku is OK. However, I can think of other cards in my deck that I'd rather have in my hand right now other than Tsuku and Mobius.

[Crazee Adam]

Looking at your sig you have a:

Bazoo Deck, a Dinosaur deck, and a 14trap deck...

...yeah I'd say you'll have poor results in all 3. It's splashable in the sense that any deck can use it, but, only a few DESERVE to use it ;)

You want to get in my face about something Manzuri?? You don't want to flame with me now do you, espesially on your own thread.

p.s. They're all fun decks for your information. I don't think I've ever seen a Dinosaur win at regionals or anything so why would I even try. The Bazoo deck is actually fairly good, but it's Bazoo Tech and not just Bazoo. And who in their right mind would run 14 traps in their competitive deck. So yes they're all for the most part fun decks/except for the Bazoo TEch deck which pewns.

[Comet]

You want to get in my face about something Manzuri?? You don't want to flame with me now do you, espesially on your own thread.
Hey, take it easy, let's not try and get Manzuri banned here...

This is a thread where we are supposed to be discussing decks, not fighting each other. Go ahead and try out CoS, maybe you'll have some success with it...

Manzuri, what did you mean by that comment?

[Crazee Adam]

Yah, I almost have never seen Manzuri post anything downwards towards people and their decks on the Advanced forums at least. What are you saying I'm no good enough to use them. Or that I'm newbish for running a 14 card kill all deck. Well they don't call me Crazee in my local card shop for nothing. But no more flaming and getting upset over a little comment. Please, get back to what you all were doing. NOW!

p.s. I say this because last time I got in a war on a post it went on forever(about 3 hours or so).

[The Tourist]

He did NOT pioneer swap-box; my Swap Box deck existed long before his, I can guarantee you of this. Even if mine didn't, my personal Swap-Box deck came from a friend's idea, not my own, so, I just don't think ATX pioneered it.

Sarcasm my friend...sarcasm!!!!

but Trunade is just shoit on a plate

LOL!!! you = staunch... Yeah, but most of the time. That shoit on plate doesn't stink in my side-deck LOL,,,,:D But, no trunade...that's cool!!!

I still kick major azz with my "victory deck" clone. I've loved your deck since I've been a member. It's a 10'er/10'er, and derserves more than 2 friggin stars!!!! Keep fighting the good fight ManZuri!!!

RoFlavin

[Hazard 21]

Great Deck 10 Letter Limit

[Dreaper30]

Awesome deck Manzuri. 10/10. :)

[I Love Manzuri]

bout time i post on the new one. this deck is amazing. ive decided to run it again after i get the cards for it again(stupid slump). as always 10/10 just because this deck has a special place in my heart as the deck that owns all. keep up the good work manzuri

Much thanks; I'm glad you have such trust in my deck as to run it for yourself. I'm glad to hear that you've only rarely lost with it as the same holds true for me ^_^

Actually, Trunade can be a mini-Heavy Storm in OTK decks, but yeah, it's pretty much usless here. It's not, however, "shoit".

It's not shoit on the whole.

It is, however, shoit in this deck.

You want to get in my face about something Manzuri?? You don't want to flame with me now do you, espesially on your own thread.

...? I'm...not exactly one to whom enjoys flames...o_O...

p.s. They're all fun decks for your information.

I...never said they weren't; they all seem relatively fun...o_O...

I don't think I've ever seen a Dinosaur win at regionals or anything so why would I even try.

Because Dinosaur decks CAN win reggies; Triceratops is Jesus in today's game what with Reapers running rampant...

The Bazoo deck is actually fairly good, but it's Bazoo Tech and not just Bazoo.

Meh, Bazoo's cool but I personally prefer Gren Maju de Eiza...

And who in their right mind would run 14 traps in their competitive deck.

Um...this deck USED to competitively run 14 traps...and win...

Manzuri, what did you mean by that comment?

...lolocaust?

All I meant was that, while every deck COULD run Card of Sanctity, most should NOT because it really, truly only works in a few decks. Looking at his sig I...didn't quite see any decks that would benefit. I'm not saying they suck at all; I'm saying if he added CoS they'd be alot worse, for it wouldn't work too well in them.

What are you saying I'm no good enough to use them. Or that I'm newbish for running a 14 card kill all deck. Well they don't call me Crazee in my local card shop for nothing. But no more flaming and getting upset over a little comment. Please, get back to what you all were doing. NOW!

Lol, you just misinterpreted it, is all (ironically you get called Crazee at your card shop I get called Crazy *** XD). All I'm saying is most decks SHOULDN'T run CoS because it'd be a BAD decision. As for 14 traps I once ran 14 traps and it worked damn well. The problem: too many bad tops, and not enough monsters ><.

Sarcasm my friend...sarcasm!!!!

Meh, I checked out his thread, and I gotta say...

next time I want to submit a Crazy *** deck, it'll go here, becuase people totally went crazy over the thing, and his destroyed the very backbone of Sorc-Box XD.

Anyways, just to kinda dovetail and finish my thoughts on Giant Trunade, the problem with it is merely that it's a horrid top that destroys nothing and only works well in those really aggressive Beatdowns or OTKs. My deck is quite clearly neither, so when my hand consists of:

Mystic LV2
Nobleman
Card of Sanctity
Sakuretsu
Reflect Bounder

and I draw Trunade...

...you can see why it just isn't that good XD.

[MazrimTaim]

Dude, it's a nice deck. But what is with all the attention? It doesn't do anything new...

This is not being a knave, just a question. Are people just drawn to the controversy that seems to cloud Manzuri? :P

I mean. I have come up with much more creative decks that get a few replies (mostly because people don't have a clue how they work), but I have never gotten a thread shut down.

So 9/10 on the deck
and 5/10 on not understanding what the big friggin deal is and why people need to stir up trouble

[Crazee Adam]

thanks Manzuri. I take it differently now.

[I Love Manzuri]

Dude, it's a nice deck. But what is with all the attention? It doesn't do anything new...

This is not being a knave, just a question. Are people just drawn to the controversy that seems to cloud Manzuri? :P

I mean. I have come up with much more creative decks that get a few replies (mostly because people don't have a clue how they work), but I have never gotten a thread shut down.

So 9/10 on the deck
and 5/10 on not understanding what the big friggin deal is and why people need to stir up trouble

Trust me; this isn't the epitome of my creativity. If you wanna see that, go to "THE BIGGEST GALLERY IN POJO HISTORY" in my sig; there you'll find 70 someodd decks that, I assure you, are some of the most creative pieces EVER!

The hub ub about this deck is merely because this deck IS my TCG deck that I play within Texas, the 2nd largest state in the US, and certainly one of the most competitive ones. This deck has 6-2'd 3 consecutive regionals placing 24th, 14th, and 10th, all of which are DAMN GOOD for a deck that runs Exarions and Card of Sanctities, right?

So, that's the hub ub, basically (well, that, and, LOOK AT IT! No Cybers, no Dons, no Trains, only 1 DDA, etc, etc)

[Yami_Michael]

I dont like the thestalos in here, but w/e. Ill get to testing this soon. Ill see which tribute works better for it.

I wasnt aware that it was 100 posts, my last wilds is going at way more. (295!)

I should probably repost it and save the front page right now. :D

[Spike15]

295!

What do you mean by that?

Do you mean "Two hundred ninety-five", or do you really mean "295!", because 295! is obscenely large...

295! = 295*294*293*292*291*290*289*288*287*286*285*284*28 3*282*281*280*279*278*277*276*275*274*273*272*271* 270*269*268*267*266*265*264*263*262*261*260*259*25 8*257*256*255*254*253*252*251*250*249*248*247*246* 245*244*243*242*241*240*239*238*237*236*235*234*23 3*232*231*230*229*228*227*226*225*224*223*221*220* 219*218*217*216*215*214*213*212*211*210*209*208*20 7*206*205*204*203*202*201*200*199*198*197*196*195* 194*193*192*191*190*189*188*187*186*185*184*183*18 2*181*180*179*178*177*176*175*174*173*172*171*170* 169*168*167*166*165*164*163*162*161*160*159*158*15 7*156*155*154*153*152*151*150*149*148*147*146*145* 144*143*142*141*140*139*138*137*136*135*134*133*13 2*131*130*129*128*127*126*125*124*123*122*121*120* 119*118*117*116*115*114*113*112*111*110*109*108*10 7*106*105*104*103*102*101*100*99*98*97*96*95*94*93 *92*91*90*89*88*87*86*85*84*83*82*81*80*79*78*77*7 6*75*74*73*72*71*70*69*68*67*66*65*64*63*62*61*60* 59*58*57*56*55*54*53*52*51*50*49*48*47*46*45*44*43 *42*41*40*39*38*37*36*35*34**33*32*31*30*29*28*27* 26*25*24*23*22*21*20*19*18*17*16*15*14*13*12*11*10 *9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1

...and that's really big! :D

;)

Spike15
Master of Stall

P.S.: My right index finger is numb from frantic tapping at the number pad!

[Yami_Michael]

Yeah sure... the big one... :D

[Spike15]

;) :D

Spike15
Master of Stall

[Comet]

Yeah sure... the big one... :D
No, it's only 295 posts, not 295!

Anyways, does anyone else have anything for Mr. Manzuri?

[I Love Manzuri]

No, it's only 295 posts, not 295!

Anyways, does anyone else have anything for Mr. Manzuri?

Yeah, I have something for...me XD

I'm gonna go back to my roots by switching Mobius for Jinzo...

[HalHornCorSec]

Yes! Finally, somebody is going to recognize Jinzo for all it's worth!

I applaud you, my crazy friend, for taking this step. I've always felt that Jinzo ended up being mistreated in this format. Plus, it goes against the norm, which is always something good.

Yub, yub.

[Comet]

Yeah, I have something for...me XD

I'm gonna go back to my roots by switching Mobius for Jinzo...
While I applaud the attempt at originality, the only thing that differs between these two is that Mobius is most easily killed by a Tsuku flip, whereas Jinzo often dies to Smashing Ground. Still, Jinzo does make Burn decks cry...

Still, I personally prefer Mobius.

[I Love Manzuri]

Yes! Finally, somebody is going to recognize Jinzo for all it's worth!

I applaud you, my crazy friend, for taking this step. I've always felt that Jinzo ended up being mistreated in this format. Plus, it goes against the norm, which is always something good.

Yub, yub.

Jinzo has been and will ALWAYS be broken in ANY format. And, let it be known:

JINZO IS BETTER THAN MOBIUS!

Seriously, there's absolutely no reason to run Mobius > Jinzo. Jinzo negates traps, as in, he cannot get Bottomless'd/Torrent'd, Prema and Call work well with him, is Tsuk proof, and is just all-around great

I traded mine away, but eventually got another one, so yay ^_^

[HalHornCorSec]

And this will always be one of those hot issues. I agree with you, Manzuri: I'd rather have total control of Traps instead of a one-shot deal like Mobius that is only a beatstick if Prema'd or Called. But I see how destruction can be viewed as better than negation.

Eh, that's one of those issues that will never go away. Like whether Cyber Dragon should be limited/banned or not.

Yub, yub.

[Yami_Michael]

I like both Mobius and Jinzo, but I admit it is normally mobius. Jinzo seems to die too easily to a set monster in my meta, at least the mobius kills/forces something into the grave.

Destruction > Negation and Negation > Destruction.

It always seems like that I want the other one in my hand during games..

[Emnm]

Jinzo and Card of Sanctity? I would say WTF, until I realized how much of a great innovation this deck is. Great idea your using cards that are having some underused play in the metagame. However, I cannot find any fixes; therefore, 9.5/10. Good job.

I R/Fed this deck twice now, but you haven't R/F mine. Would you mind R/F my Descent to Cocytus deck?

[ATX(bRoKeN)]

What do you mean by that?

Do you mean "Two hundred ninety-five", or do you really mean "295!", because 295! is obscenely large...

295! = 295*294*293*292*291*290*289*288*287*286*285*284*28 3*282*281*280*279*278*277*276*275*274*273*272*271* 270*269*268*267*266*265*264*263*262*261*260*259*25 8*257*256*255*254*253*252*251*250*249*248*247*246* 245*244*243*242*241*240*239*238*237*236*235*234*23 3*232*231*230*229*228*227*226*225*224*223*221*220* 219*218*217*216*215*214*213*212*211*210*209*208*20 7*206*205*204*203*202*201*200*199*198*197*196*195* 194*193*192*191*190*189*188*187*186*185*184*183*18 2*181*180*179*178*177*176*175*174*173*172*171*170* 169*168*167*166*165*164*163*162*161*160*159*158*15 7*156*155*154*153*152*151*150*149*148*147*146*145* 144*143*142*141*140*139*138*137*136*135*134*133*13 2*131*130*129*128*127*126*125*124*123*122*121*120* 119*118*117*116*115*114*113*112*111*110*109*108*10 7*106*105*104*103*102*101*100*99*98*97*96*95*94*93 *92*91*90*89*88*87*86*85*84*83*82*81*80*79*78*77*7 6*75*74*73*72*71*70*69*68*67*66*65*64*63*62*61*60* 59*58*57*56*55*54*53*52*51*50*49*48*47*46*45*44*43 *42*41*40*39*38*37*36*35*34**33*32*31*30*29*28*27* 26*25*24*23*22*21*20*19*18*17*16*15*14*13*12*11*10 *9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1

...and that's really big! :D

;)

Spike15
Master of Stall

P.S.: My right index finger is numb from frantic tapping at the number pad!

i wish i could sig that ~.^

[dotdotdot]

...
Why did you take Mobius out.
Like 3x Smashings rampant, DDWL's, Snatch, Brain Control, DDA's and so much more removal, why not at least rack up SOME advantage with Mobius

Especially since you run so many traps its just...why?

Mobius>Jinzo
Opinion.
But I think most will agree.

[I Love Manzuri]

I responded to this earlier but the DAMN server was too busy >:|

Long-story short, Jinzo ownz Mobius because it's more reliable, more independent (which is praised in this deck), and just more trustworthy. Alot of times I use Mobius as a beatstick :-/

[Idunnoe]

hey manzuri,
Nice deck you got going here, I really like the theory behind it of every card being an island to it's self, It really makes it flow well. well, heres my thoughts on your deck:

I'll leave your monster selection alone since everyone always seems to pick on that.

The first thing I see that is out of place is the swords of concealing light. Maybe I just don't see it, but it seems to me that it doesn't flow too well with this deck, it can't do much on it's own. Sure it's an okay combo with Exarion but it'd be rare to pull off and even when you did pull it off it's still a weak combo. I'd say drop it for maybe a confiscation(seeing the hand is invaluable, not to mention saccing their most dangerous card) or even a rush recklessly (anti reaper and very unexpected pump in the damage step), you don't seem to have fallen for the flawed "card advantage" load, those cards are amazing.

I'd also drop the sakuretsu armors (i know, I know). If you really think about it, they really aren't all they're cracked up to be, vulnerable to breaker/mobius and totally reliant on what your opponent does and vulnerable to any m/t removal. Going with the each card to it's own, I'd recommend Compulsory Evacuation Devices in their places.
CED can do the same thing Sak armor is expected to do and so much more. Most of all it's chainable, and can reset your own monsters (Breaker , MoF, GEAF). Sak armor is totally reliant on your opponent attacking, CED can clear their field whenever you want.

I spent some time and thought on this fix here manzuri, I'd apprecieate you returning the favor, check out the deck in my sig (i think you'll like it)

[AmebaFTW]

...
Why did you take Mobius out.
Like 3x Smashings rampant, DDWL's, Snatch, Brain Control, DDA's and so much more removal, why not at least rack up SOME advantage with Mobius

Especially since you run so many traps its just...why?

Mobius>Jinzo
Opinion.
But I think most will agree.

I don't care about the 3x Smashings. Jinzo nearly gaurentees (aside from scapegoat/book of moon/Enemy Controller/Face-Down monsters with valuable Jinzo Stopping effects) a 1 turn beat down.

Mobius gains you "card advantage" if in the ideal situation they have 2 traps face down when you tribute, but often you will hit a chainable one (Dust Tornado, BTH, etc.) and it won't be a gigantic payoff (even a +1 this way will still result in your single Normal Summon of the turn wasted, leaving you open to attack most of the time), whereas Jinzo will negate them and leave your opponent open to a direct attack, even better when you can Revive monsters or already had monsters summoned before hand for a huge 1 turn smacking.

Totally worth it.

The absolute only reason I'm not using Jinzo is because I have horrid bad luck with him, everytime I summon him, my opponent has snatch steal and I always top deck traps, that drove me to stop using him forever in my normal deck. (He's still invaluable in my old RftDD Deck).

Think outside the box. 4k dmg in a turn is worth not gaining a +1 advantage y'know.

And the best part of Jinzo of all, is the revivability bonus. Reviving a Monarch is simply to get a beatstick on the field, while Jinzo is a beatstick of the exact same level, his Defense is higher (not Tsukuyomi prey), but his effect is reusable, unlike Mobius.

Jinzo wins hands down against any deck other than Stall. Mobius is just safer for your own traps. A snatch stolen Jinzo is alot worse than a Snatch Stolen Mobius.

I'd say the Pro's out-way the Conn's.

[Convinced]

<Spam>

You have more locked threads than the whole OCG board.

</Spam>

Hot deck. ;o

[Sunset Rider]

What?! This thread has two stars!! GAH!!!!!!

This deck pwns!!!!!! Gah!!!!! Exarions away!!!!

[I Love Manzuri]

Idunnoe you have some relatively good points but I'll just nitpick on each one:

*Confiscation: This deck once had Confo. I got rid of it because I tried to make it so there are hardly any bad tops; the only bad tops are really the tribs, Dusts, and Nobleman. Confo's OK, but with 2 Reaps, Thesty, and the high probability of dumping one's hand...yeah I'd say extrenuous discarding with a high cost (in addition to running Brain and prema) is just...no...

*Rush Recklessly: Horrid card on its own and only works in combos. Icky, just, no.

*Compulsory: I've found that, through running this card in a jank SC I made, it's good in the right deck. This isn't the right deck. I use Book as a quicker Compulsory. Multiple...just...ew ><. Sak is really great, and with less face-up designators it's even better =D

You have more locked threads than the whole OCG board.

I'd imagine so; I'm a relatively sporadic and avid user; the OCG board is an underlooked forum roamed by pros. So, yeah, the OCG board only gets a few topics worhty of lock. I...yeah, I'm a wild card.

[flat_cat63]

I know it's not a RFP or Return deck or anything, but some wicked mad tech, favourites of mine, are Big Bang Shot and Compulsory Evacuation Device. I love abusing these two single cards with Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer, and D. D. Survivor ( which, I run 3 of each ). Giant Trunade then also fits perfectly with them.

If you're willing to try it:

-1 Reflect Bounder
-2 Smashing Ground
-2 Sakuretsu Armor / Bottomless Trap Hole / One of each

+1 D. D. Survivor
+2 Big Bang Shot ( it has multiple uses, like you equip their monster, and they take the damage, or you destroy it and they lose their monster, such as with Card of Sanctity )
+2 Compulsory Evacuation Device

It probably won't suit your playstyle, but whatever. If you like it, use it.

[Idunnoe]

fair enough manzuri, but would you please explain your inclusion of swords of concealing light?
I'm baffled, you talk about trying to make good top decks yet you run a mediocre combo card? perhaps i'm just missing it...

The cards I listed will almost always be a better topdeck than SoCL.

also *points down to sig* if you please.

[I Love Manzuri]

...3 turns of protection? Yes please.

[HalHornCorSec]

Swords of Concealing Light? I don't see that anywhere in the deck list.

Perhaps he meant Swords of Revealing Light? As, like you yourself said Manzuri, grants 3 free turns of protection, which can easily turn an extended -1 into an advantage.

Yub, yub.

[Idunnoe]

...3 turns of protection? Yes please.

Hmm, in the original main post you had "Swords of Sealing Light" I guess you've changed it since then... that does make a bit more sense tho.
Maybe scapegoat rather than Swords? it's chainable and suckers out S/T removal and could be 4 or even more turns of protection, just a thought.

*points to sig again*

[Emnm]

*points to sig again*

Does the same thing. I R/Fed your deck already. Could you please check out my Descent to Cocytus deck?

Anyways, keep Jinzo. It works in this deck, and it works pretty damn well too. Everyone is too focused upon card advantage, one does not realize the advantage of Jinzo. It shuts downs traps and that could let you prance through the fields of their life points. It is more reliable and you could use it's effect whenever, not needing for it to be tribute summoned.

[sbrball42]

have you considered running berserk gorilla?

[I Love Manzuri]

have you considered running berserk gorilla?

No and I don't intend to :)

BELATED EDIT: With SOI's availability...

-Survivor
+Treeborn

IT'S TREEBORN FROGGY TIME!
TREEBORN FROGGY TIME!
Where yat?
Where yat?
Where yat?
Where yat?
...

[Yami_Michael]

No and I don't intend to :)

BELATED EDIT: With SOI's availability...

-Survivor
+Treeborn

IT'S TREEBORN FROGGY TIME!
TREEBORN FROGGY TIME!
Where yat?
Where yat?
Where yat?
Where yat?
...

Is there any baseball bats? Or Peanut Butter? :eek:

[Dr Tran]

Wow, I suddenly had some major Dé jas vue looking at the front page, with all the "First" "second post" stuff. Made me thing of the World of Warcraft Forums...

[thatguy.c]

i just a question for you the deck looks good ...more and more people are running golblin eliete's and every one with thier own reason whats yours?

[Yami_Michael]

Wow, I suddenly had some major Dé jas vue looking at the front page, with all the "First" "second post" stuff. Made me thing of the World of Warcraft Forums...

Or Warcraft3 maps/mods. Or just Gamefaq boards.

They were doing it because they didnt understand what Manzuri was saying about 400-500+ posts. They thought that they was a competition or something.

Additional Comment:
i just a question for you the deck looks good ...more and more people are running golblin eliete's and every one with thier own reason whats yours?

Im thinking because it hasnt been noticed. Or he just doesnt like it/have one. ;)

[Crazee Adam]

I'm just kind of joining in but my idea of running Goblin Elite is because they pwn Cyber Dragons, Can survive the next turn, and they can be an offensive wall stall. They're just really good against Cybers and other high atkers. They're definetly good if that's what you wanted to know too.

[Yami_Michael]

I'm just kind of joining in but my idea of running Goblin Elite is because they pwn Cyber Dragons, Can survive the next turn, and they can be an offensive wall stall. They're just really good against Cybers and other high atkers. They're definetly good if that's what you wanted to know too.

I thought he meant how manzuri is running GAF, not GEAF.

[Crazee Adam]

I thought he meant how manzuri is running GAF, not GEAF.

I thought he was asking how people use it in general or how people would use it. But I'm sure one of those is how Manzuri uses it for too. lol, maybe I just read wrong. But he was asking on why he runs Elites work and what you use them for, not GAF.

[sushi magician]

Although i would normally be put off by running Jinzo and 9 traps i would rather suggest lowering your traps rather than take Jinz out of the deck. It may depend on your own playstyle but i say take out a Tornado and/or BTH for a Monarch like Zaborg or Mobius or another Goblin and/or Frog. I guess to each their own playstyle since another trib monster could lead to bad topdecks. I believe its also your bday.

[L2theZ]

Problems with this deck:

Monsters:
Jinzo - Destruction is always better than negation, cut this.
Exarion Universe - Why, it's a weak 1800 mon or a weak 1400 trampler, and in an era where Scapegoat is at one I can't consider even running 1.
Reflect Bounder: Why?
MS LV2: With no RoTA this is likley to be a dead draw.
Treeborn Frog: this card cannot just be splahsed in everywhere.

Magics:
Card Of Sanctity: Can never provide advantage unless you have D.D. Survivor on the field, I see no reason to run this.
Book Of Moon: With no Flips the best you can hope to do is prevent Snatch, Smashing, or a Sakuretsu

Traps:
Bottomless Trap Hole: The regular Trap Hole is by far better
Cylinder: How are -1's good?

All in all this deck is just a mess.

[I Love Manzuri]

i just a question for you the deck looks good ...more and more people are running golblin eliete's and every one with thier own reason whats yours?

It's a Mercenary, and I guarantee you: if you can score higher than me at any level in The Mercenaries in Resident Evil 4, I will give you this deck for free. Nobody, and I mean nobody can beat me at Mercs. I OWN Mercs.

...with that said, simple: GEAF is what GAF was SUPPOSED to be! A tribute-less beatersticker that MAY actually LIVE! See, the problem I had using 2 Spear Dragons was the low DEF, thus the double-up on Exarions instead. However, GEAF's 1500 DEF proves to be JUUUUST enough what with Don and Mystic running rampant. He smashes most monsters and hits em BIG time. Bring em down to 5800 instantly? Yes please! He's just a bad mo fo, is all.

Monsters:
Jinzo - Destruction is always better than negation, cut this.

You're right; I ought to run Mobius. That way I can destroy 2 of their MTs (assuming they even have 1, which, alot of the time, they don't) and then when they top into Saks, Call, Dust, and Widespread I'll celebrate the fact I may have popped their...Swords prior? Seriously dude, Jinzo is just alot more reliable. When they have 2 MT and you summon Jinz, they can't chain crap unlike Mobius, and, it makes their topping less reliable and their options stinted. You know what? Since you have a theory on Destro > Negate, how about we swap all Royal Decrees with Mobiuses in Horus Lockdown eh? I'm sure they'd make a suitable swap ^_~

Exarion Universe - Why, it's a weak 1800 mon or a weak 1400 trampler, and in an era where Scapegoat is at one I can't consider even
running 1.

...This is also the same era where most people run THREE Spirit Reapers...

(not to mention 3 Toms, Trains, Merchants, and 2-3 Donnies...)

Reflect Bounder: Why?

Big burn that packs a punch. I can't tell you how many times they've either been BELOW 1700 LP or had around 2000ish and had like Cyber or Mobius out. It's a huge lightningrod. The problem is it's a lightningrod with some sort of static shock built into it (horrible analogy I know). Seriously, any monster that forces you to lose over 1700 points is just a near staple, and having 1700 ATK doesn't hurt either.

MS LV2: With no RoTA this is likley to be a dead draw.

Smashing Ground is often a dead draw, you don't see me thinkin twice about taking it out now do ya?

Treeborn Frog: this card cannot just be splahsed in everywhere.

...yes it can...

Magics:
Card Of Sanctity: Can never provide advantage unless you have D.D. Survivor on the field, I see no reason to run this.

Let's see...

They have a Mobius, a set Sak, and 1600 LP
I have COS and draw into a crap Dust and have 900 LP. I play COS and top Snatch and DDA. I summon DDa and activate Snatch. Not only did I just gain a +3 advantage...

I JUST F'IN WON! Seriously dude, there's what I call "Direct Advantage", and then there's "Roundabout Advantage."

See, Smashing Ground is direct advantage, because it will ALWAYS be a 1-for-1 no matter what.

Card of Sanctity, on the other hand, is Roundabout Advantage, because while the card ITSELF only provides a +1 advantage, the cards IT LEADS TO COULD provide more (like in the advantage above).

Same with Reflect Bounder. While he is a bit of a -1, them losing 1700 is a +1 on my part, AND that 17 might've been exactly what they needed (If I say, iuno, Prema Reflect Snatch their Mobius summon Eliters and attack for game seeing as they'd be at 6300 and all)

Book Of Moon: With no Flips the best you can hope to do is prevent Snatch, Smashing, or a Sakuretsu

...DEE DEE DEE!

That's kinda the point. It's both offensive and defensive, and helluva fun tech.

Traps:
Bottomless Trap Hole: The regular Trap Hole is by far better

Riiiiight with people running multiple Cybers, Prema, Call, and other such nonsense a card that kinda scrubs-out the bigger mons is MUCH weaker than its counterpart Trap Hole...

...Seriously dude, Crap Hole doesn't really belong in ANY deck. It only works on Normal Summons, no f'in thanks.

Cylinder: How are -1's good?

Let's see...

*It can win games instantly
*It works well with Snatch and Brain
*Prevents the attack from going through
*Provides huge advantage what with it being big burn and all

...Yeah I'm sure we know why it is.

All in all this deck is just a mess.

Well, and that's your opinion, and it's deeply appreciated. I'm glad you took the time to deeply analyze my deck and point out its fallacies. Unfortunately I disagree, and, in my opinion, it either takes one with full understanding of the game, or, mostly, somebody with a similar decktype to declare oneself an afficianado in that branch.

Something tells me you don't run a deck like mine, and I'm glad you don't. I consider myself to have placed very highly (placing 6-2 every time in the state of TEXAS is pretty good I think) and am thus quite liking in my own deck.

Thank you anyways ^_^

In the mean time...

TODAY'S MY BIRTHDAY! I'M 16! YAY!

Treeborn's workin well, Jinz' workin well. Huurah!

[Crazee Adam]

Jinzo pwns in the right deck. Destruction isn't always better apparently when you're running Bazoo or Strike Ninja, cause I see Jinzo in a lot of them. So JInzo still pwns in the right hands.

[Yami_Michael]

TODAY'S MY BIRTHDAY! I'M 16! YAY!

Treeborn's workin well, Jinz' workin well. Huurah!

In case of missing it with timexones, Happy birthday Shinji!

[I Love Manzuri]

Jinzo pwns in the right deck. Destruction isn't always better apparently when you're running Bazoo or Strike Ninja, cause I see Jinzo in a lot of them. So JInzo still pwns in the right hands.

Sure, Jinzo does pwn in the right deck, but, on the whole, Jinzo pwnz Mobius PERIOD. Seriously, the only reason to run Mobius > Jinzo is perhaps in a SC or Monarch deck, but otherwise, he just isn't all that reliable, is all.

And, YM, my BDay was on Mar. 15th; I'm sure you were around then XD.

[L2theZ]

You're right; I ought to run Mobius. That way I can destroy 2 of their MTs (assuming they even have 1, which, alot of the time, they don't) and then when they top into Saks, Call, Dust, and Widespread I'll celebrate the fact I may have popped their...Swords prior? Seriously dude, Jinzo is just alot more reliable. When they have 2 MT and you summon Jinz, they can't chain crap unlike Mobius, and, it makes their topping less reliable and their options stinted. You know what? Since you have a theory on Destro > Negate, how about we swap all Royal Decrees with Mobiuses in Horus Lockdown eh? I'm sure they'd make a suitable swap ^_~

I'd think in a deck when you attack to win when your Jinzo dies from some Random Smashing or DDA, or whatever that you would like for him to not have those Sakuretsu Armors and Widespread Ruins that were only negated by Jinzo.

Also your deck isn't a Horus deck, your deck unlike a Horus deck benefits from the destruction of Traps.

...This is also the same era where most people run THREE Spirit Reapers...

(not to mention 3 Toms, Trains, Merchants, and 2-3 Donnies...)

If lifepoints actully matter in Yu-Gi-Oh then you might have a point, but until they reach zero they have no value. Which is why I would take out Exarion for DDA or something that can provide a 1:1 by itself.

Big burn that packs a punch. I can't tell you how many times they've either been BELOW 1700 LP or had around 2000ish and had like Cyber or Mobius out. It's a huge lightningrod. The problem is it's a lightningrod with some sort of static shock built into it (horrible analogy I know). Seriously, any monster that forces you to lose over 1700 points is just a near staple, and having 1700 ATK doesn't hurt either.

It still doesn't change the fact that any monster can kill it, thus generating a -1 for you, and if life points actully mattered then you might have a point, but again they don't.

Smashing Ground is often a dead draw, you don't see me thinkin twice about taking it out now do ya?

However Smashing Ground isn't a weak monster like LV 2 is, Smashing will always be a 1:1 unless they use BoM, where if you top Ms LV2 against their Cyber Dragon it's going to be a -1 for you.

...yes it can...

With you only running 2 Tribuites and no other ways to combo off Frog I fail to see why he is in here.

Let's see...

They have a Mobius, a set Sak, and 1600 LP
I have COS and draw into a crap Dust and have 900 LP. I play COS and top Snatch and DDA. I summon DDa and activate Snatch. Not only did I just gain a +3 advantage...

I JUST F'IN WON! Seriously dude, there's what I call "Direct Advantage", and then there's "Roundabout Advantage."

So it's quite impossible for them to have Scapegoat, Call, Dust, MST, or any other card down there right? I too can create ideal situations where cards work

Card of Sanctity, on the other hand, is Roundabout Advantage, because while the card ITSELF only provides a +1 advantage, the cards IT LEADS TO COULD provide more (like in the advantage above).

Card Of Sanctity does not provide a plus one, you lose it and at LEAST 1 other card to gain two, it's two 1:1's, it can only be a +1 when you have D.D. Survivor on the field, but you aren't running that card.

Same with Reflect Bounder. While he is a bit of a -1, them losing 1700 is a +1 on my part, AND that 17 might've been exactly what they needed (If I say, iuno, Prema Reflect Snatch their Mobius summon Eliters and attack for game seeing as they'd be at 6300 and all)

Life points are never taken into the +/- System, they have no value.

Again, I too can create highly unlikely situations where cards work.

...DEE DEE DEE!

That's kinda the point. It's both offensive and defensive, and helluva fun tech.

Fun tech that would be more useful if you can get rid of the normal -1 it provides when it doesn't negate Smashing/Sak/Snatch, by using Flip effect monsters.

Riiiiight with people running multiple Cybers, Prema, Call, and other such nonsense a card that kinda scrubs-out the bigger mons is MUCH weaker than its counterpart Trap Hole...

...Seriously dude, Crap Hole doesn't really belong in ANY deck. It only works on Normal Summons, no f'in thanks.

Trap Hole can hit Don, something BTH cannot do. Most people when they play Pre/CoTH go for very few targets, those being Sorcerer who will get his effect before you can BTH him, Sangan who can't be touched by BTH, Don who can't be touched by BTH, or a Flip monster to abuse with Tsukuyomi. Yes Trap Hole too is useless in these situations, but it does allow you to get rid of many greater threats.

Let's see...

*It can win games instantly
*It works well with Snatch and Brain
*Prevents the attack from going through
*Provides huge advantage what with it being big burn and all

...Yeah I'm sure we know why it is.

Exodia can win the game instantly but I don't see it being used too much. If it prevents the attack it's still a -1, since if the attack would have gone through you would have lost the mon.

Again, Life Points do not equal advantage.

Something tells me you don't run a deck like mine, and I'm glad you don't. I consider myself to have placed very highly (placing 6-2 every time in the state of TEXAS is pretty good I think) and am thus quite liking in my own deck.

No I don't, I run a FFC deck.

[Boss]

i'm like number ... uh..... let's just say eleventibillion and sixty-ten.

wait a second... what was this thread about?....

[thatguy.c]

I thought he was asking how people use it in general or how people would use it. But I'm sure one of those is how Manzuri uses it for too. lol, maybe I just read wrong. But he was asking on why he runs Elites work and what you use them for, not GAF.


lol so much confusion what i was trynig to say was that i see it in more and more deck and i always wondered why then you told me its cause of the cybers

[I Love Manzuri]

I'd think in a deck when you attack to win when your Jinzo dies from some Random Smashing or DDA, or whatever that you would like for him to not have those Sakuretsu Armors and Widespread Ruins that were only negated by Jinzo.

Um, usually that doesn't happen. Even so, I'm not going to ditch Jinzo because I may run into their Saks; Sak WILL be used against me. I know this, and I'm not running Trap Jammer because of it.

Also your deck isn't a Horus deck, your deck unlike a Horus deck benefits from the destruction of Traps.

And how is it that you know if my deck does or does not benefit from Jinzo/Mobius? I've had this deck my whole life; never once changed themes. I know its mechanics, and, I'm pretty sure you do not. I've run Mobius since October and stopped in February. So...yeah, if I've been running Mobius for 5 months and swap it for Jinzo...there's probably a pretty good reason.

If lifepoints actully matter in Yu-Gi-Oh then you might have a point, but until they reach zero they have no value. Which is why I would take out Exarion for DDA or something that can provide a 1:1 by itself.

Um, Lifepoints DO matter. If you have 800 or less LP, you can't play Prema or Brain. If Lifepoints didn't matter EVERYBODY WOULD FRICKEN BE RUNNING INJECTION FAIRY LILY! Seriously, LP is the MOST important thing in the game; if you have low LP, chances are you're gonna lose.

As for Exarion, it really takes somebody who has actually USED it for a prolonged period of time to really understand how it works. 18 ATK beats most out there, 19 DEF is hellasexy, and the trample is just rich. DDA is just crap what with Mystics and all and the fact he's usually used as a beatstick before he gets smashed. Oh yeah, he's about to become limited to 1. Yeehaw.

It still doesn't change the fact that any monster can kill it, thus generating a -1 for you, and if life points actully mattered then you might have a point, but again they don't.

Um, news flash:

IF A WEAKER MONSTER ATTACKS IT THE WEAKER MONSTER DIES THUS CREATING A -1 (ME) -2 (THEM) ADVANTAGE!

Seriously, when they're at less than 1700 LP and I have a Reflect Bounder out...yeah I'd say LP matter seeing as, you know, they can't attack RB or they lose.

However Smashing Ground isn't a weak monster like LV 2 is, Smashing will always be a 1:1 unless they use BoM, where if you top Ms LV2 against their Cyber Dragon it's going to be a -1 for you.

...What I'm saying is Smash is often a dead draw. Unlike Mystic, Smash ain't gonna guard your LP.

With you only running 2 Tribuites and no other ways to combo off Frog I fail to see why he is in here.

Um, easy stall. I'm not running Book of Life, but you see I run 2 Reaps. Hell, I run 2 Reaps and a Sanny, you don't see me running Tomatoes. See, this deck revolves around independent cards, not combo cards. If I wanted combo cards I'd run Threatening Roar, Tomato, Tsuk...other crap like that that doesn't work.

So it's quite impossible for them to have Scapegoat, Call, Dust, MST, or any other card down there right? I too can create ideal situations where cards work

The difference is that usually doesn't happen, and, even then, I've got more advantage.

Card Of Sanctity does not provide a plus one, you lose it and at LEAST 1 other card to gain two, it's two 1:1's, it can only be a +1 when you have D.D. Survivor on the field, but you aren't running that card.

Uh, dude, Card of Sanctity can only be used in one, and ONLY one way: TO BE USED!

While it's a magic and thus can be bluffed, ALL magics can be bluffed, so to bring that up would be redundant.

See, since CoS' only effect is to be used, by using it, it's not like I'm losing a card, because there's nothing else I could've done with it. The only way I could've lost advantage was if it had multiple effects like Enemy Controller. COS has but 1 effect, and that effect is to be used. So, by playing COS, I'm only losing 1 card, because COS doesn't count as a loss; its only purpose IS TO GET DITCHED. So, yes, it's a -1 +2, because I'd rather top into a Snatch and DDA than sit around with an unusable Dust or Nobleman.

Life points are never taken into the +/- System, they have no value.

Ugh, only somebody who places with an FFC deck would say something so ridiculous. LP is the reason why we have winners and losers. If LP didn't exist Mill would be the #1 Tier 1 CC. If LP didn't exist people'd be running Prema, Brain x3, Autonomous Action Unit x God knows how many, and Injection Fairy Lily. Hell even Toons may have a shot. LP is abso f'in lutely crucial, because if you have 1300, and they have a Monarch, and you top into Nobleman, guess what? YOU LOSE! That's it, game over. LP is absolutely crucial, and those few points you lost early game may have been the most needed to survive.

Again, I too can create highly unlikely situations where cards work.

The thing is, with my deck, they're not highly unlikely. Since most of my cards are independent, I usually draw into just what I need, because any card, viewed from the right perspective, is "what I need". Sure, I've topped into crap like Noble and Dust, Dust and MST, Jinzo and Thesty, Card of Sanctity and Sangan, etc, etc, but, in this deck, mostly every card can function on its own. That's what makes my deck unique, and that's why it pwnz the competition.

cyber ape;
pwnin the competition since MRD.

Fun tech that would be more useful if you can get rid of the normal -1 it provides when it doesn't negate Smashing/Sak/Snatch, by using Flip effect monsters.

Um...Sure, it doesn't NEGATE the Smash, Sak, and Snatch, but, iuno, when I'm about to hit for game with my Exarion and they Sak me I can generally use Book, you know, to put it into its 19 DEF and preserve it for a turn. Seriously, it's anti Smash/Snatch/Sak and, yes, I have used it many times with Magician of Faith XD.

Trap Hole can hit Don, something BTH cannot do.

Like OMGorz United We Stand can work on ALL of my monsters, but you don't me running that because of its versatility now do you? I couldn't care less about some 14/15 crapstick. He's not gonna help when he's being slapped by my Exarion and Thesty who are getting their shine on in his face.

Most people when they play Pre/CoTH go for very few targets, those being Sorcerer who will get his effect before you can BTH him

Um, dee dee dee, that's called priority; you don't ALWAYS have to call it. Furthermore, I don't care about my monster; it's removing their Sorc that I care about.

Sangan who can't be touched by BTH

But gets murdered by...pretty much anything.

Don who can't be touched by BTH,

But does get touched by...

...oh wait, too many cards in here to touch him with.

or a Flip monster to abuse with Tsukuyomi.

Abuse right into my Torrential/Nobleman =D.

Yes Trap Hole too is useless in these situations, but it does allow you to get rid of many greater threats.

Like Sorceror, Cyber Dragon, and anything a Tomato can search out right? =D

Exodia can win the game instantly but I don't see it being used too much.

You should; Exodia decks are easily some of the more broken decks out here, and they'll only get more powerful next format =D

Again, Life Points do not equal advantage.

...

No I don't, I run a FFC deck.

Looks like I called it. You run a deck that only works in theory but doesn't work at all in real life. Oh well.

[The Tourist]

;) Manzuri...Happy Belated Birthyday!!!!!!!! ;)

The deck's looking great.

How's TinZo working out for ya???

I see you've added the Frog...nice!!!

Geez, with the Frog in there. You could put some more "Fire" in... x1 Thesty

Jinzo
Thestalos
Thestalos

Now that sounds perrrrrrrrrty sweet. I know,,,,3 tribs. BUT, I think it could work.

Anyways, looking sharp as ever (the deck)

[I Love Manzuri]

I've been considering running Dark Triceratops. People these days are all concerned about every card they run providing advantage, but Triceratops, while not a DIRECT advantage machine is just l33trz. Seriously, 24/15 punishes Reaps, Goats, and most other monsters. Unlike say Mob or Cyb where you can feel safe toppin, with Tri, if you don't top that Smash you'll be gettin nowhere with Mystics, Goats, etc etc ><

But nah, I got rid of Confo and Vortex and the like due to bad tops. This deck is quite good where it's at, and will only get better =D

[Strizen]

hey manzuri, deck looking good... but just a question for ya.

why do u run treeborn frog with so little tribs for? i mean like isnt treeborn only for free trib fodder?

im sure there must be a really good reason that im not aware of :o

[Yami_Michael]

Stritzen: This deck is different then anything else, you dont play cards like every other player does.

Its easy stall.

[I Love Manzuri]

Stritzen: This deck is different then anything else, you dont play cards like every other player does.

Its easy stall.

Seriously, easy stall and is just abuseable bait, is all.

[DangAzn]

nice deck, no fixes

[I Love Manzuri]

nice deck, no fixes

Thanks. The only changes I see for this deck in the future would be to add in a Cyber Gymnastics...

[Crazee Adam]

Thanks. The only changes I see for this deck in the future would be to add in a Cyber Gymnastics...
Never heard of that one. Maybe you could explain it to me(or us). I just never have heard of that card. What set does it come in.

[HalHornCorSec]

EOJ-EN006 CYBER GYMNAST
[Warrior-Type/EARTH/4 Stars/ATK 800/DEF 1800]
Discard 1 card from your hand. Destroy 1 face-up Attack Position monster on your opponent's side of the field. This effect can only be activated once per turn.

Basically, it's an Exiled Force that stays on the field and has decent Defensive stats. Provided that Cyber Dragon gets at least a partial boot, that is. It is begging to be used in a Warrior Toolbox deck. Between it, Exiled Force, and Mystic Swordsman LV2, your opponent's monsters are never safe. Heh.

Manzuri: When are you going to make this April 1st legal? This new format is t3h l33tn3ss. No, I'm not being serious.

Yub, yub.

[Crazee Adam]

where are you people finding the new Banned list for America. Or are you guys just going by the OCG list??

[Idunnoe]

where are you people finding the new Banned list for America. Or are you guys just going by the OCG list??

that's what I'd like to know...

[turkeyspit]

Monsters:
- 1 Reflect Bounder
- 1 Drillroid

+ 2 Enraged Battle Ox

Spells:

Not understanding Card of Sanctity :confused:

no fixes

Traps:

- 1 BTH
+ 1 Sak Armor


Nice build, with lots of options.

8.75/10

Please r/f the XYZ deck in my sig.

[I Love Manzuri]

where are you people finding the new Banned list for America. Or are you guys just going by the OCG list??

I...don't believe it's out yet...o_O...

Monsters:
- 1 Reflect Bounder
- 1 Drillroid

+ 2 Enraged Battle Ox

EBO is just grossies. His stats are meh and his trample...well, I've already got Exar. Reflect is big burn, and, trust me, anybody who has ran a Drillroid can easily tell you how good it is.

Spells:

Not understanding Card of Sanctity

Draw power

Traps:

- 1 BTH
+ 1 Sak Armor

Meh, maybe with the new banned list I'll swap BTH for MIRROR FORCE, but, chances are, I'll keep the doble BTHs. They're just so good O_O

Anyways guys, check the front page: I'm adding pics of me pwning =D

[Crazee Adam]

yeah, I know its not, but Hal was talking like it is and was wondering when you would change it to the April 1st Advanced. So I thought he was getting it from some where that we don't know. But whatever, maybe he was just talking.

[I Love Manzuri]

yeah, I know its not, but Hal was talking like it is and was wondering when you would change it to the April 1st Advanced. So I thought he was getting it from some where that we don't know. But whatever, maybe he was just talking.

Yeah, I noticed it too. I think he meant in reference to the OCG list, but, I'm waiting for the TCG list. Look at my deck: the only things that could really be done would be like -Hole +Graceful -BTH/Sak + Mirror, and maybe run 2 Magicians like I have been until this list. But, otherwise, this deck is...pretty much gonna be the same XD.

I know one day...though...I'll probably end up having to ditch an Exarion ><

[the_rabbit]

This is what happens when I stop coming to the Advanced Deck Discussion =/

Anyway, it's still a little pointless to make fixes, and props on 10th, I suppose...

Rabbit

[I Love Manzuri]

This is what happens when I stop coming to the Advanced Deck Discussion =/

Anyway, it's still a little pointless to make fixes, and props on 10th, I suppose...

Rabbit

...a 3rd thread? XD

There will never be fixes; only suggestions =D

Enjoy the pics though, even if they were taken by a crappy disposable T_T ><

[The Tourist]

Manzuri, the deck's looking g-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-d...:)

Monsters: (17)

Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
Jinzo

Exarion Universe
Exarion Universe
Spirit Reaper
Spirit Reaper
Goblin Elite Attack Force
Exiled Force
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Reflect Bounder
Mystic Swordsman LV2
Drillroid
Sangan
Treeborn Frog
D. D. Assailant
D. D. Warrior Lady
Magician of Faith

Magic: (14)

Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Card of Sanctity
Card of Sanctity
Brain Control
Book of Moon
Nobleman of Crossout
Scapegoat
Dark Hole
Mystical Space Typhoon
Heavy Storm
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Swords of Revealing Light

Traps: (9)

Dust Tornado
Dust Tornado
Sakuretsu Armor
Sakuretsu Armor
Bottomless Trap Hole
Bottomless Trap Hole
Magic Cylinder
Call of the Haunted
Torrential Tribute

Manzuri, do you mind checking out my Skill Drain deck????? Thanks....

[HalHornCorSec]

Actually, I'm referring to the placeholder webpage UDE had up for the April 1 List. In each category, it said "There are no _________ cards in this Format." I guess it was also a bit of this year's April Fools Joke list.

At least in the Veteran's Forum, a bunch of people made joke decks around this list, using 3 of every card they wanted.

Yub, yub.

[Crazee Adam]

hey, now I know where he was getting the banned/restricted list. From here on the forums. lol. If anyone hasn't checked it out, go on the Banned/retricted list discussion and it should be on there.

[L2theZ]

Um, usually that doesn't happen. Even so, I'm not going to ditch Jinzo because I may run into their Saks; Sak WILL be used against me. I know this, and I'm not running Trap Jammer because of it.

So no one has ever killed your Jinzo before? Because if they do you just got a -1 off of that unless the monster your tribuited had alreayd payed for itself.

And how is it that you know if my deck does or does not benefit from Jinzo/Mobius? I've had this deck my whole life; never once changed themes. I know its mechanics, and, I'm pretty sure you do not. I've run Mobius since October and stopped in February. So...yeah, if I've been running Mobius for 5 months and swap it for Jinzo...there's probably a pretty good reason.

Because Aggressive decks are Aggressive decks, and in any Aggressive deck Destruction > Negation.

Um, Lifepoints DO matter. If you have 800 or less LP, you can't play Prema or Brain. If Lifepoints didn't matter EVERYBODY WOULD FRICKEN BE RUNNING INJECTION FAIRY LILY! Seriously, LP is the MOST important thing in the game; if you have low LP, chances are you're gonna lose.

Let me correct my statement Life Points do no matter until they hit zero. People don't run Lily because she's bad? So if I ahve 50 LP and 10 cards compared to your 8000 LP and 0 cards I should lose? Card Advantage > LP Advantage.

As for Exarion, it really takes somebody who has actually USED it for a prolonged period of time to really understand how it works. 18 ATK beats most out there, 19 DEF is hellasexy, and the trample is just rich. DDA is just crap what with Mystics and all and the fact he's usually used as a beatstick before he gets smashed. Oh yeah, he's about to become limited to 1. Yeehaw.

At least DDA is always a 1:1 unless Survivor takes it down, Exarion ahs the potential to be a -1, and it outclassed by Cyber Dragon in the area of being a beatstick.

Um, news flash:

IF A WEAKER MONSTER ATTACKS IT THE WEAKER MONSTER DIES THUS CREATING A -1 (ME) -2 (THEM) ADVANTAGE!

Seriously, when they're at less than 1700 LP and I have a Reflect Bounder out...yeah I'd say LP matter seeing as, you know, they can't attack RB or they lose.

If my monster runs into Reflect Bounder I lost one card, and you lose one card, a 1:1. If a monster of higher attack runs over it you lose it, a -1 for you. If Reaper/Sangan run into it you also get a -1.

And if you're below 1000 then Final Flame becomes broken, but that doesn't make it good. And yes I can't run into it, but there are many other ways to kill something.

...What I'm saying is Smash is often a dead draw. Unlike Mystic, Smash ain't gonna guard your LP.

So Smashing a 90% of the time 1:1 is outclassed by LV which has a much greater chance of being a -1?

Um, easy stall. I'm not running Book of Life, but you see I run 2 Reaps. Hell, I run 2 Reaps and a Sanny, you don't see me running Tomatoes. See, this deck revolves around independent cards, not combo cards. If I wanted combo cards I'd run Threatening Roar, Tomato, Tsuk...other crap like that that doesn't work.

Because Reaper can funtion on it's own and provide advantage without BoL, same goes for Sangan. Unless you combo the Frog he isn't providing any advantage.

The difference is that usually doesn't happen, and, even then, I've got more advantage.

In a situation you made up you are likley to have more advantage, but it's just as likely for them to ahve one of those 4 cards down as it is to have Sakuretsu, which can only be run in 3's.

Uh, dude, Card of Sanctity can only be used in one, and ONLY one way: TO BE USED!

While it's a magic and thus can be bluffed, ALL magics can be bluffed, so to bring that up would be redundant.

See, since CoS' only effect is to be used, by using it, it's not like I'm losing a card, because there's nothing else I could've done with it. The only way I could've lost advantage was if it had multiple effects like Enemy Controller. COS has but 1 effect, and that effect is to be used. So, by playing COS, I'm only losing 1 card, because COS doesn't count as a loss; its only purpose IS TO GET DITCHED. So, yes, it's a -1 +2, because I'd rather top into a Snatch and DDA than sit around with an unusable Dust or Nobleman.

Please larn how the +/- system works, if you start out with 2 cards (CoS and whatever) and then end up with 2 cards you haven't gained anything.

Ugh, only somebody who places with an FFC deck would say something so ridiculous. LP is the reason why we have winners and losers. If LP didn't exist Mill would be the #1 Tier 1 CC. If LP didn't exist people'd be running Prema, Brain x3, Autonomous Action Unit x God knows how many, and Injection Fairy Lily. Hell even Toons may have a shot. LP is abso f'in lutely crucial, because if you have 1300, and they have a Monarch, and you top into Nobleman, guess what? YOU LOSE! That's it, game over. LP is absolutely crucial, and those few points you lost early game may have been the most needed to survive.

Yes LP does determine the winner and loser, but they matter veyr little to the players until they hit zero, or time in a match is about to be called.

The thing is, with my deck, they're not highly unlikely. Since most of my cards are independent, I usually draw into just what I need, because any card, viewed from the right perspective, is "what I need". Sure, I've topped into crap like Noble and Dust, Dust and MST, Jinzo and Thesty, Card of Sanctity and Sangan, etc, etc, but, in this deck, mostly every card can function on its own. That's what makes my deck unique, and that's why it pwnz the competition.

cyber ape;
pwnin the competition since MRD.

So them having no protection against Snatch, and you drawing 2 cards in your deck that you have at only 1 per deck is highly likely?

Um...Sure, it doesn't NEGATE the Smash, Sak, and Snatch, but, iuno, when I'm about to hit for game with my Exarion and they Sak me I can generally use Book, you know, to put it into its 19 DEF and preserve it for a turn. Seriously, it's anti Smash/Snatch/Sak and, yes, I have used it many times with Magician of Faith XD.

And if it were a Dekoichi you were swinging for the game with you would have gotten a 1:1 out of the book and then possibly a +1 if you flip Dekoichi.

Like OMGorz United We Stand can work on ALL of my monsters, but you don't me running that because of its versatility now do you? I couldn't care less about some 14/15 crapstick. He's not gonna help when he's being slapped by my Exarion and Thesty who are getting their shine on in his face.

So monsters that pay for themselves when they attack aren't good?

Um, dee dee dee, that's called priority; you don't ALWAYS have to call it. Furthermore, I don't care about my monster; it's removing their Sorc that I care about.

But you still get a -1 in that situation, that's not good.

But gets murdered by...pretty much anything.

So do a lot of things but unlike most of them Sangan pays for itself.

But does get touched by...

...oh wait, too many cards in here to touch him with.

That still doesn't get rid of that fact that you have to run him over to break even if he gets his effect off.

Abuse right into my Torrential/Nobleman =D.

Both of which are limited to one, and only Torrnetial will break the pattern, something that you don't want to do if you've got a monster on your field.

Like Sorceror, Cyber Dragon, and anything a Tomato can search out right? =D

Sorcerer will still generate a +1 in their favor so I don't see the point here, and I wouldn't set BTH and some mon for the opening, if I BTH the Cyber that leaves me open for a RoTA into MS LV2.

Looks like I called it. You run a deck that only works in theory but doesn't work at all in real life. Oh well.

Called it by reading down to where I said "I play a FFC deck"?

# of Top 8's by me with a FFC Deck: 2
# of Top 8's by me total: 6

# of Top 8's by you: 0

Yes I should definetly get rid of my FFC deck shouldn't I?

[silverdevilboy]

Life points are never taken into the +/- System, they have no value.

You are kidding.
I managed to create a Dark Paladin deck so friggin fast that the CC deck hasn't got the resources to keep up a defence against the continuous attacks.
If most of my cards are -1s, or 141s, care to explain how I won 9 duels in a row, only losing the tenth by a draw of 4 spells (not including polymerisation), Buster blader, and Dark magician.

So no one has ever killed your Jinzo before? Because if they do you just got a -1 off of that unless the monster your tribuited had alreayd payed for itself.

Jinzo, in an environment where good destruction traps are rampant, and in this deck, which focuses on aggro quite heavily, is far more useful than Mobius.

Because Aggressive decks are Aggressive decks, and in any Aggressive deck Destruction > Negation.
So not true. Traps destroy aggro. stopping all traps=stopping most ways they have to protect their dwindling Lp.

So them having no protection against Snatch, and you drawing 2 cards in your deck that you have at only 1 per deck is highly likely?
He was giving an example.
The situation is opponent has a big field, you have none, you have no useful cards in hand (in this deck, happens quite often, no offence.), and CoS can remedy the situation by resetting his hand, as dark hole can the field. And we all know how good the Dark Hole is:D

This deck works, no-one knows how to play against it, and he will almost never have to change most of the cards thanks to a bon list, when everyone else starts to run around like headless chickens. If you have won so many tournaments, you should be able to see that he does not want a deck based around cards you think are good, but around cards that work on their own AND all flow together. If you cannot understand the concept of cards, ask for an explanation instead of shouting about it, and when he provides one, try to understand it, and avoid just repeating 'but this is better' over and over again.

[I Love Manzuri]

Manzuri, the deck's looking g-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-d...:)

Monsters: (17)

Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
Jinzo

Exarion Universe
Exarion Universe
Spirit Reaper
Spirit Reaper
Goblin Elite Attack Force
Exiled Force
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Reflect Bounder
Mystic Swordsman LV2
Drillroid
Sangan
Treeborn Frog
D. D. Assailant
D. D. Warrior Lady
Magician of Faith

Magic: (14)

Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Card of Sanctity
Card of Sanctity
Brain Control
Book of Moon
Nobleman of Crossout
Scapegoat
Dark Hole
Mystical Space Typhoon
Heavy Storm
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Swords of Revealing Light

Traps: (9)

Dust Tornado
Dust Tornado
Sakuretsu Armor
Sakuretsu Armor
Bottomless Trap Hole
Bottomless Trap Hole
Magic Cylinder
Call of the Haunted
Torrential Tribute

Manzuri, do you mind checking out my Skill Drain deck????? Thanks....

You just want me to use your badarse colors eh? Well...OK that's just a huge quote XD

Actually, I'm referring to the placeholder webpage UDE had up for the April 1 List. In each category, it said "There are no _________ cards in this Format." I guess it was also a bit of this year's April Fools Joke list.

At least in the Veteran's Forum, a bunch of people made joke decks around this list, using 3 of every card they wanted.

Yub, yub.

I saw that actually XD. Meh, I'd probably only thrown in an Imperial; des brokenness :cool:

So no one has ever killed your Jinzo before? Because if they do you just got a -1 off of that unless the monster your tribuited had alreayd payed for itself.

All I'm saying is that usually they don't kill my Jinzo with a Dust and Sak set, and even if they did, that wouldn't really slow me down, is all.

Because Aggressive decks are Aggressive decks, and in any Aggressive deck Destruction > Negation.

But all decks are aggressive, even Horus, which is all about negation. Why do you think there's no such thing as Aggro? XD

Let me correct my statement Life Points do no matter until they hit zero. People don't run Lily because she's bad? So if I ahve 50 LP and 10 cards compared to your 8000 LP and 0 cards I should lose? Card Advantage > LP Advantage.

If I top into a Cylinder :-p

Card advantage is important sure, but what I'm saying is keeping track of your LP is also important. Reaper is often used for LP protection moreso than hand destro.

At least DDA is always a 1:1 unless Survivor takes it down, Exarion ahs the potential to be a -1, and it outclassed by Cyber Dragon in the area of being a beatstick.

Yeah but DDA also has the major chance of getting mad pwned by Drillroid XD

Not only is DDA at 1 but Exarion is just more USEFUL. I couldn't give a crap about 1 for 1, it's about useful ness. Why do you think I dont' run Cyber Dragon? He's a beatstick; I have no time for beatsticks. Exarion is offensive, defensive, and a tramplin badass. DDA is just a remover...if even.

And if you're below 1000 then Final Flame becomes broken, but that doesn't make it good. And yes I can't run into it, but there are many other ways to kill something.

Exactly, thus, lightningrods are sexy =D

So Smashing a 90% of the time 1:1 is outclassed by LV which has a much greater chance of being a -1?

No, it was merely an example. I'm saying taking out Mystic would be stupid, because he's really one of the only options out there suitable for taking out defense position monsters. I've considered time and time again to switch him for a 2nd Drill, but with FFC and all. Smash is a great card obv, and in my opinion is better and more useful than Mystc, obv. However, Mystic isn't crap at all, and generally he serves his purpose.

Because Reaper can funtion on it's own and provide advantage without BoL, same goes for Sangan. Unless you combo the Frog he isn't providing any advantage.

Field presence = Advantage ^_^

Please larn how the +/- system works, if you start out with 2 cards (CoS and whatever) and then end up with 2 cards you haven't gained anything.

If I have something that doesn't help (Dust/Noble/Sac) and then COS, whose only purpose is to be used, and I ditch both and top into something I need, it was a -1 +2. Why? Because that Dust may have helped. That COS wouldn't have. COS is junk; it's trash. What it grants, however, is not. There's direct advantage, and then there's roundabout advantage. Learn how that works.

So them having no protection against Snatch, and you drawing 2 cards in your deck that you have at only 1 per deck is highly likely?

Pretty much, but dude, I only run a few cards in doubles, and, if you haven't noticed, those tend to be the better ones (Smash, Sak, etc). If I ran multiples of say...Drill, Mystic, etc, I'd be toppin pretty crappily :-/

And if it were a Dekoichi you were swinging for the game with you would have gotten a 1:1 out of the book and then possibly a +1 if you flip Dekoichi.

Wait...I'm not understanding. If I attack their Deko for game and they Book it? Or if I had attacked for Deko but used Book on it seeing as they flipped Sak? Meh, I'd never run Deko, and I wouldn't care if they booked theirs'. What I'm saying is in this game where Smash and Saks are run in multiples Book is absolutely crucial, a near-staple, if you will.

So monsters that pay for themselves when they attack aren't good?

Don isn't good because he's only good sometimes. Hmm, who does that sound like? I know! INJECTION FAIRY LILY! Sure, Don has more searchability to him and more use, but, they're in the same ball game in that aspect. See, this deck deals with cards good at most times. Exarion is one of them. His stats are more than great and his effect is reasonable. Don, on the other hand, is kinda...miffy. Just a...meh type card. I ran 1 when it first came out in PGD, and, sure, it was cool. But it was never anything huge. I just don't like Don really, and I couldn't give a crap if he snakes through my BTH.

But you still get a -1 in that situation, that's not good.

Getting rid of their Sorc is all that matters.

Sorcerer will still generate a +1 in their favor so I don't see the point here, and I wouldn't set BTH and some mon for the opening, if I BTH the Cyber that leaves me open for a RoTA into MS LV2.

In that case you'd better hope I didn't set Sangan or Frog eh? :-p

Called it by reading down to where I said "I play a FFC deck"?

I read it after words :-/

# of Top 8's by me with a FFC Deck: 2
# of Top 8's by me total: 6

# of Top 8's by you: 0

Yes I should definetly get rid of my FFC deck shouldn't I?

Yes, because FFC doesn't work. The only reason FFC people get anywhere is because they only face FFCers! That's how CC is. Why do you think CCCC was #1 back in those days? Everyone ran it, so there was no comp. Same as today, cept today we have variants on Aggro and FFC.

I couldn't care about your scores dude. Evan Vargas placed #1 at SjC. However, I placed WAY higher than him at regionals. You think I care?

I mean congrats on getting #8 (I'm imagining you didn't get much higher because if you did you'd mention top 4 or something), but, I'm not sure how that makes your arguments somehow better than mine. 10's just suitable for me, and I'll hope for 8 at next regs.

Until then, learn how the advantage system works =D

If most of my cards are -1s, or 141s, care to explain how I won 9 duels in a row, only losing the tenth by a draw of 4 spells (not including polymerisation), Buster blader, and Dark magician.

Well it could've been by chance. Hell, I placed 10th with 6-2 at Austin reggies; I friggen lost at a small shop's tournament in the top 16 first round. It happens.

no-one knows how to play against it

I'd like to second that statement, because you just don't find decks these days with 2 COS and 2 Exars.

and he will almost never have to change most of the cards thanks to a bon list

Bon as in French for good? XD

If you cannot understand the concept of cards, ask for an explanation instead of shouting about it, and when he provides one, try to understand it, and avoid just repeating 'but this is better' over and over again.

Well he wasn't shouting; the man rose some good points and obviously knows what he's talking about in his own standpoint.

The thing is, people treat this game like it's Sudoku. I suggest Limiter13 should look at my previous threads with this same deck and read the prior responses. I've been preaching this time and time again

There's Direct Advantage

and then there's Roundabout Advantage.

Take into account both.

[The Tourist]

Manzuri,,,,the list is out!!!!

Time to update...NICE!!!!

Monsters: (17)

Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
Jinzo

Exarion Universe
Spirit Reaper
Spirit Reaper
Goblin Elite Attack Force
Exiled Force
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Reflect Bounder
Mystic Swordsman LV2
Drillroid
Sangan
Treeborn Frog
D. D. Assailant
D. D. Warrior Lady
Magician of Faith
Magician of Faith

Magic: (14)

Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Card of Sanctity
Graceful Chair
Brain Control
Book of Moon
Nobleman of Crossout
Scapegoat
Lightning Vortex
Mystical Space Typhoon
Heavy Storm
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Swords of Revealing Light

Traps: (9)

Dust Tornado
Dust Tornado
Sakuretsu Armor
Sakuretsu Armor
Bottomless Trap Hole
Bottomless Trap Hole
Magic Cylinder
Call of the Haunted
Torrential Tribute

[I Love Manzuri]

Well, here are the changes I'm lookin at:

-Dark Hole
+Graceful Charity

-Cylinder/Bottomless
+Mirror Force

Meh, I may get rid of Card of Sanctity, depending, because with 2 CoS and 1 Graceful...it may result poorly ><. But, I'll see how things go...

[Aichi Sendo]

Looks nice Manzuri Lover. Maybe you could try to fit in a Gigantes? You have five earths, and may work. It's nice M/T destruction. Just a suggestion.

[The Tourist]

Well, here are the changes I'm lookin at:

-Dark Hole
+Graceful Charity

-Cylinder/Bottomless
+Mirror Force

Meh, I may get rid of Card of Sanctity, depending, because with 2 CoS and 1 Graceful...it may result poorly ><. But, I'll see how things go...

Yeah, I dig on those changes to. I didn't want to mess with your trap lineup, but that's the suggestion that I would of made...-1x BTH, +1x Mirror Force

P.S. Check your PM's....;)

[I Love Manzuri]

Looks nice Manzuri Lover. Maybe you could try to fit in a Gigantes? You have five earths, and may work. It's nice M/T destruction. Just a suggestion.

Interesting suggestion O_O

Hmm, maybe I'll playtest for fun, but it's just too...edgy, too unpredictable O_O ><><

[The Tourist]

Did you check your PM's????

EDIT...nevermind. I've seen the first page...sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxy!!!!!

[I Love Manzuri]

Did you check your PM's????

EDIT...nevermind. I've seen the first page...sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxy!!!!!

Yep, it was sexified =D

[silverdevilboy]

Well it could've been by chance. Hell, I placed 10th with 6-2 at Austin reggies; I friggen lost at a small shop's tournament in the top 16 first round. It happens.

Could have been, but wasn't, I'm now at 27/30 wins, and the deck is slowly being improved:D

Bon as in French for good? XD
You know I meant Ban.

Well he wasn't shouting; the man rose some good points and obviously knows what he's talking about in his own standpoint.
He came up with some good points, but only took what you said as he instantly thought, taking no time to try and understand the concept behind some cards.
Care to explain the sudoku comment?

Nice deck anyway, 9.5/10

[Yami_Michael]

First tightsavage...now roflavin.... :D

How is this deck going to look after April?

[The Tourist]

First tightsavage...now roflavin....

How is this deck going to look after April?


.................:p ....................

I know Y'Mike. It's all sex'd up now

Manzuri's deck needed a little love.....;)

[iNick]

First off can u say NICE!

no fixs

9/10

[I Love Manzuri]

Could have been, but wasn't, I'm now at 27/30 wins, and the deck is slowly being improved:D


You know I meant Ban.


He came up with some good points, but only took what you said as he instantly thought, taking no time to try and understand the concept behind some cards.
Care to explain the sudoku comment?

Nice deck anyway, 9.5/10

The Sudoku thing was a joke; I was saying he was taking it too mathetmatically, as if it were Sudoku, which is like...the newest craze among nerds and ******s or something like that...

How is this deck going to look after April?

Basically the same. It may only have 1 CoS, but other than that, pretty much the same...

[Zoomer3989]

Do you think that running 2 copies of CoS is completely necesary? I'm considering running a modified version of this to combat my meta's annoying use of Cyber/DDAs and such, and I actually don't have a single CoS...would a POA over one of them work as well?

[I Love Manzuri]

Well, once April comes I may swap 1 for a RotA. That way I'll have RotA, CoS, and Graceful =D

[silverdevilboy]

You...
But...
You...
Sudoku...
I like Sudoku...
KILL!!!!!

But I do get what you mean.
BTW, within a few months, you will have to change the link in your sig (biggest deck gallery in Pojo history), as I am currently in the process of building and refining all possibly semi-playable or better decks, and they will be posted in installations, since to read and understand the entire list would take a good few hours or more, so they actually need to be split up. I began 7 days ago, and I have 14 decks so far, and I have yet to leave the BEWD and Dark Magician decks. (and one Chaos Sorceror deck, but I think he is supposed to be DM's better cousin, or something.) The first installation will appear later this month, and I hope everyone likes it.
Best estimate so far, 325 decks, and more ideas every day. Any more theme monsters I may not have thought of that you can, plase mention them, as I may have missed some.

[I Love Manzuri]

How can you estimate 325 decks when you only have 14? o_O ><><

Don't worry; I have a lil secret, but as a short spoiler, I'll say this; much, much later on, perhaps with the "death" of cyber ape, if you will, I'll post THE biggest deck gallery EVER, and, I say ever, because it will probably contain the entire 8th mix and more <333

Anyways guys, I'm about to update my deck for the new format. Until then, please rate my XYZ deck in this forum somewhere ><

P.S. Sudoku's cool, I have yet to learn how to do it though XD

Additional Comment:
Alrighty, changes hath been made =D

-Reflect Bounder
+Magician of Faith

-Bottomless Trap Hole
+Mirror Force

-Dark Hole
+Graceful Charity

-Card of Sanctity
+Reinforcement of the Army

-Bottomless Trap Hole
+Don Zaloog

[Idunnoe]

bah, don zaloog?

think that's smart what with the proliferation of Dark World that's going to be comming out? I'd swap it for a Big Shield Gardna (because of the doubling of NoE) it'll cause mental havok for your opponent not knowing weather you set one of your mof's of that BSG you just rotat'd out ;)

maybe a Wildheart if you don't like BSG

[I Love Manzuri]

Pssht, nobody's gonna run Dark World. Besides; I could always declare top 2 =D

I guarantee you Tomato is going to be at an ultimate high what with Reaps and Donnies unaffected.

Meh, Shield is just deh suckness. He's the reason I stopped running Spear Dragons. While Spear shifts into 0 DEF, Shield shifts into 100 ATK. Meh, interesting tech in a toolbox sure, but not in this deck.

As for Wildheart I've seen it with my own eyes and it's greatness. However, I ran Donny in the PGD days and, well, I'm back. Donny's just relatively good advantage, and Wild...meh...><

[Ultimate Chaos]

Use another Mob and Thest

[Safferion]

WOW!!! Awsome deck, just like always. I bet'll pwn my deck over and over. OK! I challenge you to a duel!!! PREPARE TO WIN!!! ...wait...

[I Love Manzuri]

WOW!!! Awsome deck, just like always. I bet'll pwn my deck over and over. OK! I challenge you to a duel!!! PREPARE TO WIN!!! ...wait...

Haha, well, make sure you update your's and I'll play you tomorrow. I need to get my Don back from Josh XD.

Use another Mob and Thest

...4...Tributes? Ickiness ><. Meh, I'll consider SWAPPING my Thestalos for Mobius depending on how things go, but for now, Thesty and Jinz are here to stay =D

[The Tourist]

Looking Sexy Manzuri...I dig those changes

Man, I was going to suggest....Ojama Trio......:eek:

I'm feeling quite goofy today...:o

Man, what are you waiting for??? Check out my Skill Drain...you might likey XD

[I Love Manzuri]

Looking Sexy Manzuri...I dig those changes

Man, I was going to suggest....Ojama Trio......:eek:

I'm feeling quite goofy today...:o

Man, what are you waiting for??? Check out my Skill Drain...you might likey XD
Lol, got any idea why my colors are all messed up? ><

[The Tourist]

Lol, got any idea why my colors are all messed up? ><

Not sure. When you made the changes. Did you use different colors???

It doesn't look like it. Try it again.

[I Love Manzuri]

Not sure. When you made the changes. Did you use different colors???

It doesn't look like it. Try it again.

Nope, same colors. Meh...I spose it'll give it some distinction? XD

[The Tourist]

Nope, same colors. Meh...I spose it'll give it some distinction? XD

I kinda of like it...:p I was wondering how you did that myself. The splash of white looks...tasty!!!!!

Thanks for looking in on my Skill Drain. I put the Chainsaws in, and then I take them out. I like them to. I'm going to ditch the Fusiliers and go with a couple Chainsaws.

It's getting mixed reviews, but I dig it. Along with a few other peeps:

Yami_Mike
Real Shinobi
you????:p

[BhpExtra]

Yo! The deck looks really solid, My only recommendation would be to try a mobius over a Thestalos now that you have a Don Zaloog for hand disruption.
~BhpExtra

[I Love Manzuri]

Yo! The deck looks really solid, My only recommendation would be to try a mobius over a Thestalos now that you have a Don Zaloog for hand disruption.
~BhpExtra

I've been considering that, but Reapers and 1 Don may not work all too well. Besides, a great combo I've managed to do is attack with Reap and then sac for Thesty =D

But, I'll see if Mobius will work better...

[BhpExtra]

I don't know if it would be more stable with Mobius or Thestalos, I guess you would have to just test it. Also does pojo not allow animated avatars? I had to remove the animation from mine for it to except it.

[I Love Manzuri]

It DOES allow animated avatars, there's just one lone way to do so, and I don't know it :-/

My lil Raphael turtle is supposed to spin around in circles XD

Additional Comment:
Meh, I've decided to run Mobius > Thestalos. I have enough hand C, and the event in which they'll have MT is more prominent and worthy of destruction than Hand D.

[localghost]

This deck is much like wine - It just gets better after time. Ew, cliche. xD Nah, but seriously, you know I like the deck so just giving you props on the current version. ;D

[I Love Manzuri]

This deck is much like wine - It just gets better after time. Ew, cliche. xD Nah, but seriously, you know I like the deck so just giving you props on the current version. ;D

Thanks; har, it has been a while.

Yeah, I'm really happy with the way it turned out. I mean, I honestly miss being innovative with my 2 CoS', but now it's more...balanced IMO. It's also more old-school with my 2 Magicians (I've ALWAYS ran 2 Magicians ever since MRD)

[GreyFox]

-1 Drillroid
+1 Goblin Elite
Drill roid is good, but meh at the same time....I hate it too..GEAF is awsome anti meta......

-1 Mobius
+1 Dark Ruler Ha-Des
Kill's CC I absolutly love it................

These are just idea's I love this deck, 9.9/10 for shure........Pls return the favor....... (http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=265563)

[localghost]

I mean, I honestly miss being innovative with my 2 CoS', but now it's more...balanced IMO.

Word. Innovation is one thing, but at the cost of winning games? Hell no.

[jamesleather]

srry man but the colors distracted me and I couldn't even read the list

[HalHornCorSec]

Then don't bother posting.

If you can't see it, highlight the text, Copy it, and Paste it on Microsoft Word of Correl WordPerfect or whatever you use. Then, change it to "Defaut Paragraph Font" or whatever the standard setting is for your version.

Solid as always, Manzuri. I'd suggest downplaying Hand Control as much as possible, at least for the next two months. Dark World, while not Tier 1, will be the hyped deck, with a lot of people running it. Better to not take chances, IMO.

Or, plow through those dang Darkworlders like they're nothing at all. I like that idea, now that I think about it.

Yub, yub.

[silverdevilboy]

How can you estimate 325 decks when you only have 14? o_O ><><


There are now 400 decks that I am planning to make, I spent a long time writing all decks that I will build. The 14 deck are the decks for the first posted section of the gallery, which is based around theme monsters, and the 14 decks are Dark magician and variants, Red Eyes and variants, and Blue Eyes and variants, along with combinations of the three. The really scary thing is, the deck with all three in it has a record of 4-3, and it has played and beaten cookie cutter decks, and a Dark world deck. IT OUTSWARMED THE DARK WORLD DECK!!!! The decks are all surprisingly effective when played right, if a little...unorthodox. I am retaining the gallery until April 1st, just in case they make some last minute changes.

[I Love Manzuri]

-1 Drillroid
+1 Goblin Elite
Drill roid is good, but meh at the same time....I hate it too..GEAF is awsome anti meta......

-1 Mobius
+1 Dark Ruler Ha-Des
Kill's CC I absolutly love it................

These are just idea's I love this deck, 9.9/10 for shure........Pls return the favor....... (http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=265563)

Drillroid is just so much more versatile, more reliable, and knocks those Reapers right out of their socks (well, assuming they have feat somewhere in that robe XD). Atleast with Drill I can attack a defense recklessly without much fear of what it may be.

Meh, Hades is cool, but, come on, that's what Drill, Mystic, and Nobleman are for XD. I don't really care if they get their mons' effects; generally Mobius serves as more effective.

Word. Innovation is one thing, but at the cost of winning games? Hell no.

Well, here's the thing. In the last format, we had no draw power so I improvised by using CoS x2, and it worked out well. Now that we have Graceful, I'm going to test out an Avarice in place of CoS once I get my hands on 1. There isn't much need for CoS now, sadly :-/

Solid as always, Manzuri. I'd suggest downplaying Hand Control as much as possible, at least for the next two months. Dark World, while not Tier 1, will be the hyped deck, with a lot of people running it. Better to not take chances, IMO.

I don't fear DW at all, dead or not. Hell, Don has basically replaced Thesty IMO, and, really, I don't care about the whole DW fad. Sure, better safe than sorry, but, bleh. Yeah, I enjoy running Mobius again =D

There are now 400 decks that I am planning to make, I spent a long time writing all decks that I will build. The 14 deck are the decks for the first posted section of the gallery, which is based around theme monsters, and the 14 decks are Dark magician and variants, Red Eyes and variants, and Blue Eyes and variants, along with combinations of the three. The really scary thing is, the deck with all three in it has a record of 4-3, and it has played and beaten cookie cutter decks, and a Dark world deck. IT OUTSWARMED THE DARK WORLD DECK!!!! The decks are all surprisingly effective when played right, if a little...unorthodox. I am retaining the gallery until April 1st, just in case they make some last minute changes.

Well good luck; I've been in the gallery business for a long, long time, and I get writer's block all the time XD. So, yeah, best of luck man ^_~

[Ammit]

the deck is very secksi as always manzuri. i think testing an avarice over CoS mite be better, but that's what testing is for. good job as always and like zulu said the deck gets better with age and such. again good job.

[I Love Manzuri]

Meh, gots to get one, and I'm savin-up for an Ult one too, so, it'll be even longer ><. I'm not sure it'll work, but, then again, CoS has been less needed in this deck and reminds me a bit of when I ran Reload back in the IOC days; it proved crappy since I always had a good hand and thus I took it out. But, COS is still CoS; it works.

We'll see =D

[Lord of the Bling]

I hear Cyber Ape is quite white.

I also hear that Aggro does indeed exist, and that this deck is a bad version of it.

I also hear that Wangpirate is who you stole that avatar from.

[I Love Manzuri]

I hear Cyber Ape is quite white.

I also hear that Aggro does indeed exist, and that this deck is a bad version of it.

I also hear that Wangpirate is who you stole that avatar from.

To quote Vargas:

"What's with you e-losers?"

Seriously, why does it matter the color of my skin? Seriously, segregation is over pal; that sorta thing ain't important these days. I've said time and time again, my heritage consists of:

50% Japanese
25% Greek
25% Italian

And, within my Greek is a form of Middle Eastern; I have yet to trace it, though.

Who cares if I'm white? I grew up in a city in Georgia where my entire neighborhood was surrounded by trees that blocked the sun, and it never got incredibly hot. Furthermore, I don't have my swimming pool anymore, so, after being stuck in a sun-lacking house in GA for over 2 and a half years, a lack of tan hue is inherant. Quit giving me crap over it. Besides, it's not as if most Asians aren't already pale anyways, ignorant kusotare.

2. Aggro does not exist; redundancy overrides all defensive logic. This isn't a variant of aggro; all decks are aggro, and thus, one cannot be a variant of oneself.

3. You heard incorrectly. I got this avatar from a girl friend of mine named Mileam who is a 7th-grade Asian girl who has never heard of this site.

Jeez LotB you're just a HUGE pendejo today arencha prick? ^_~

[King Of Duelists]

Best thing about the deck was the colored text :P
Anyway nice deck, hard to fix really it's quite well built.
8.7/10

[I Love Manzuri]

The harder to fix the better the deck =D

[T_Excalibur_Matt]

- Agro deck

+ EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HEROS .. HAHAHA WOO WHOOO

no such thing as agro.. once again posting one of the most agro decks ever..

[I Love Manzuri]

Aggro runs Exarion, Frog, 2 Magician and CoS? o_O...

[Lord of the Bling]

To quote Vargas:

"What's with you e-losers?"

Seriously, why does it matter the color of my skin? Seriously, segregation is over pal; that sorta thing ain't important these days. I've said time and time again, my heritage consists of:

50% Japanese
25% Greek
25% Italian

And, within my Greek is a form of Middle Eastern; I have yet to trace it, though.

Who cares if I'm white? I grew up in a city in Georgia where my entire neighborhood was surrounded by trees that blocked the sun, and it never got incredibly hot. Furthermore, I don't have my swimming pool anymore, so, after being stuck in a sun-lacking house in GA for over 2 and a half years, a lack of tan hue is inherant. Quit giving me crap over it. Besides, it's not as if most Asians aren't already pale anyways, ignorant kusotare.

2. Aggro does not exist; redundancy overrides all defensive logic. This isn't a variant of aggro; all decks are aggro, and thus, one cannot be a variant of oneself.

3. You heard incorrectly. I got this avatar from a girl friend of mine named Mileam who is a 7th-grade Asian girl who has never heard of this site.

Jeez LotB you're just a HUGE pendejo today arencha prick? ^_~
If all decks are aggro, then this deck is aggro.

Moron.

Also, you're white, not asian. I could have 2 vietnamese parents, but if I'm born blue eyed and caucasian, I'm white.

[I Love Manzuri]

If all decks are aggro, then this deck is aggro.

Moron.

Also, you're white, not asian. I could have 2 vietnamese parents, but if I'm born blue eyed and caucasian, I'm white.

If all decks are aggro then it'd be redundant to point out the fact that it's aggro, seeing as all decks are.

*Insert mod-evasive flame*

Um...I'm neither blue-eyed nor Caucasian. I have brown eyes, and, through ethnic backgrounds, I have a Japanese father and a half-Greek half-Italian mother. Seriously, if I go bake in the sun and then get a tan, I'm not all of a sudden a Mexican/African because I'm dark now am I?

Race isn't important you dolt. How about you keep my ethnicity to PMs and PMs only? Comment on the deck and the deck alone.

[AmebaFTW]

If all decks are aggro then it'd be redundant to point out the fact that it's aggro, seeing as all decks are.



Omg Bling got owned.

Seriously, if I go bake in the sun and then get a tan, I'm not all of a sudden a Mexican/African because I'm dark now am I?



OMG Double owned in 1 post.

LOL Bling sorry bucko but you seem to lose this one.

Trying to turn the argument around by saying "If all decks are aggro then so is yours stupid!" (childish btw), instead of actually arguing one of his points, just proves you've got nothing to counter his argument, therfore forfeiting yours.

Walk away Bling, you picked a fight with someone obviously at a level of intelligence far beyond your own.

Additional Comment:
- Agro deck

+ EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HEROS .. HAHAHA WOO WHOOO

no such thing as agro.. once again posting one of the most agro decks ever..

How is that Aggro anymore than any other deck? Wow. It's a deck full of his chosen cards which he decided would be the best combination to compete with against the other decks out there......running a couple monsters with more than 1400 attack doesn't make it some sort of "aggro deck", geez.

It's one of the least aggressive decks there is, but like he said, all decks are aggressive, if they weren't aggressive, they'd never win, and decks that don't ever win don't matter.

Key to Victory: Reducing opponents life points to 0.

You can't do that unless you're being aggressive, dur?

Few "Defensive" cards that do that. The only "Defensive" way to kill someone I can think of is playing tons of wall monsters and hope they attack them with weak monsters, but that will never win a game anyway, but even then, the strategy is aggressive to the opponents life points, so even defensive is aggressive. Also there's Giant Germs who hurt the enemy for attacking, and yet, that can't be called "Defensive" anyway, because if you run Germs, you put them in there to deal damage and give field advantage (possibly for tributes or whatever you want). Either way, it's all aggressive. You lose.

Wave Motion cannon + G-bind is aggressive, you just use the G-Bind to prevent them from killing you while YOUR aggression takes place.

Duh. Manzuri wins the logic war again.

[WildWill]

You KNOW what's gonna happen if you keep going off topic to flame, ESPECIALLY on race.

People will get banned.

Don't do it.

[I Love Manzuri]

Yep, Ameba got it. The thing that I've been stressing is that by merely playing a card you're putting forth a form of aggression, it's just so small it isn't viewed that way. Hell, even burn/stall cards like Wave Motion and LLAB are high aggression.

Meh, I wish you guys would look more at the deck and not its title, though I'll arrogantly admit it's pretty catchy =D

[Lord Soth]

You win, I give, you made me play something else (XYZ=retired)

BTW, too all who don't know, this is Samurai Soldier, and I was once a awesome poster.

[Kiru]

How about

-Drilloid
+Mask of Darkness?

Could you please take a look at my Mystic Bounce deck? http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=278739

[alekos]

dude,16 pages...
-card of sactity
+rota
makes it more easu to pull out beatsticks

10/10,judging from the pictures!!!

r/f my zombie

[I Love Manzuri]

You win, I give, you made me play something else (XYZ=retired)

BTW, too all who don't know, this is Samurai Soldier, and I was once a awesome poster.

Haha, yes, I remember Samurai Soldier =D

Well, XYZ is good (check out my XYZ deck in this forum plz), but honestly isn't as great as it could be, sadly :-/

How about

-Drilloid
+Mask of Darkness?

Drillroid is absolutely crucial. Mask is not.

dude,16 pages...
-card of sactity
+rota
makes it more easu to pull out beatsticks

Mystic LV2 is SUCH a beatstick XD. Well, 1 works just fine. Besides, I only run 5 warriors T_T

I'm likely going to replace CoS with Avarice once I can get one...

10/10,judging from the pictures!!!

Haha, you're probably the first one to look at those ><

[Lord Soth]

Hey! I looked at em too, but if you link me, I'll look at the XYZ deck (I know how too play it the bestest, I've playing it since...when MFC came out)

[I Love Manzuri]

Hey! I looked at em too, but if you link me, I'll look at the XYZ deck (I know how too play it the bestest, I've playing it since...when MFC came out)

http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=276011

New-age XYZ deck for the banned list =D

[BadAssDuelist]

I'm not a fan of Exarion, and CoS is still horrible, BUT it's much better than your previous version, and sicne you have stated you are going to remove CoS at a later time, there's only one thing I can truly criticize you for, and that's not running ROTA. There's simply no good reason not to. You play more than 3 warriors, you run an ROTA. You play 7 or more, you run two. That's a rule in a sense. It's smart, so it says a lot abot a person who doesn't do so. Anyways, enough bashing. My suggestions would be to drop an Exarion for a WIldheart and find room for 2 ROTA. For now I'd drop CoS and another spell of you preference for them.

Still a teeny bit flawed, but overall much better than before.

[I Love Manzuri]

I'm not a fan of Exarion, and CoS is still horrible, BUT it's much better than your previous version, and sicne you have stated you are going to remove CoS at a later time, there's only one thing I can truly criticize you for, and that's not running ROTA. There's simply no good reason not to. You play more than 3 warriors, you run an ROTA. You play 7 or more, you run two. That's a rule in a sense. It's smart, so it says a lot abot a person who doesn't do so. Anyways, enough bashing. My suggestions would be to drop an Exarion for a WIldheart and find room for 2 ROTA. For now I'd drop CoS and another spell of you preference for them.

Still a teeny bit flawed, but overall much better than before.

Um...wow...you must have HORRIBLE astigmatism :-/

Firstly and foremostly if you run 3 warriors and 1 RotA you're an idiot. 3 Warriors isn't enough to necessitate a tutor. Probability and logic totally go against that.

Now, I'm running 5 warriors, and, IF YOU'D USE YOUR EYES, you'd see I AM running 1 RotA.

Wildheart? Meh, no thanks; Exarion's stats and effect trump it.

And Card of Sanctity isn't and wasn't a bad card. Back then we didn't have any direct forms of Draw Power, so CoS x2 was basically Pot of Greed x2 for me.

Now, in today's game we have Graceful, so there isn't any need for CoS. I'm going to try an Avarice. if Avarice doesn't work, guess what?

CARD OF SANCTITY GOES BACK IN!

Pssht, flawed. It was never flawed and still isn't. That's exactly why it places so high =D.

Meh, I'd love to add you to the knave list but I suppose you were just contributing...

[GreyFox]

Nice, but -1 Drillroid +1 GEAF...That would make this deck a 'lil more anti Cyber....9.9/10 fo show.Really nothing else to fix, I used to play COS too, It's hot isn't it.......Pls R/F the Gallery in my sig.......

Additional Comment:
Um...wow...you must have HORRIBLE astigmatism :-/

Firstly and foremostly if you run 3 warriors and 1 RotA you're an idiot. 3 Warriors isn't enough to necessitate a tutor. Probability and logic totally go against that.

Now, I'm running 5 warriors, and, IF YOU'D USE YOUR EYES, you'd see I AM running 1 RotA.

Wildheart? Meh, no thanks; Exarion's stats and effect trump it.

And Card of Sanctity isn't and wasn't a bad card. Back then we didn't have any direct forms of Draw Power, so CoS x2 was basically Pot of Greed x2 for me.

Now, in today's game we have Graceful, so there isn't any need for CoS. I'm going to try an Avarice. if Avarice doesn't work, guess what?

CARD OF SANCTITY GOES BACK IN!

Pssht, flawed. It was never flawed and still isn't. That's exactly why it places so high =D.

Meh, I'd love to add you to the knave list but I suppose you were just contributing...
Fo show, this kid is a fool...5 is still barely cutting. and he suggest running it with 3!:eek: and he's dissing on this hot deck....This kid insane.......

[BadAssDuelist]

Um...wow...you must have HORRIBLE astigmatism :-/

Firstly and foremostly if you run 3 warriors and 1 RotA you're an idiot. 3 Warriors isn't enough to necessitate a tutor. Probability and logic totally go against that.

Now, I'm running 5 warriors, and, IF YOU'D USE YOUR EYES, you'd see I AM running 1 RotA.

Wildheart? Meh, no thanks; Exarion's stats and effect trump it.

And Card of Sanctity isn't and wasn't a bad card. Back then we didn't have any direct forms of Draw Power, so CoS x2 was basically Pot of Greed x2 for me.

Now, in today's game we have Graceful, so there isn't any need for CoS. I'm going to try an Avarice. if Avarice doesn't work, guess what?

CARD OF SANCTITY GOES BACK IN!

Pssht, flawed. It was never flawed and still isn't. That's exactly why it places so high =D.

Meh, I'd love to add you to the knave list but I suppose you were just contributing...

wow... you must have HORRIBLE eyesight (although I guess it can be forgiven since I overlooked the one ROTA) :P

I said if you play MORE than 3 warriors.

Card is Sanctity is bad. Period. All the situational as hell arguments can be made, but it's just a bad card. Now, PoA is a bit restricting as well, but far more useful and easy to set off. If PoA doesn't work better than CoS, you are either imagining it, or... I can't think of any other explanation at the moment (maybe another logical vet will come in here and provde another one, whether it's sarcastic or not, lol) :P

Now as far as being flawed, EVERY deck is flawed at some point. Don't kid yourself. Just having CoS makes it flawed, and that's all there is to it. If there are excessive cards being used that are highly situational, that's a flaw. Get over it. You are labeling people who simply point out the obvious flaws of your deck, and frankly that's a bit childish and quite egotistical.

As far as Exarion, I won't criticize that, because that's a preference. There is a difference between Exarion and CoS. generally, Exarion is useable. CoS is not.

Sorry for the sarcasm and firmness to my post, but that's just how I work.

As far as Grey Fox's post goes... I'll just laugh.

[GreyFox]

Now as far as being flawed, EVERY deck is flawed at some point. Don't kid yourself. Just having CoS makes it flawed, and that's all there is to it. If there are excessive cards being used that are highly situational, that's a flaw. Get over it. You are labeling people who simply point out the obvious flaws of your deck, and frankly that's a bit childish and quite egotistical.

As far as Grey Fox's post goes... I'll just laugh.
If you have skill COS is good and that's all there is to it.......Laugh all you want, it only make's a scene.......Ure witty remark make's me wonder why you even try, if you run more than 3 warrior's it's good to run ROTA...HAHA that's ridiculous......But before We ruin this kid's thread we should quit.....

As far as ure deck, Deff add in that second GEAF........

[BadAssDuelist]

If you have skill COS is good and that's all there is to it

AH, so you have to have SKILL to make wise use of a card that makes you get rid of everything on your field when your deck has nothing to take advantage of it. LMAO. That statement is mis-interpreted so much it's not funny... "If you have skill..." Sorry, but you aren't using that statement correctly. CoS is a highly situational card with little payoff. Bottom line. No amount of skill will make it able to be viewed as a good card.


if you run more than 3 warrior's it's good to run ROTA...HAHA that's ridiculous......

Obviously you are a player who has little to no knowledge of what the standards and balances are in this game.


BTW, it doesn't take much witt to counter an idiotic statement :P

[GreyFox]

AH, so you have to have SKILL to make wise use of a card that makes you get rid of everything on your field when your deck has nothing to take advantage of it. LMAO. That statement is mis-interpreted so much it's not funny... "If you have skill..." Sorry, but you aren't using that statement correctly. CoS is a highly situational card with little payoff. Bottom line. No amount of skill will make it able to be viewed as a good card.




Obviously you are a player who has little to no knowledge of what the standards and balances are in this game.


BTW, it doesn't take much witt to counter an idiotic statement :P
NO that wasn't mis-interpreted.......You can make it good, set it and wait for when it's needed........It can be very good........Standards and Balance's blah blah blah....Ure turning a simple card game into a rocket science just shut up.........

[kingPoonDragun]

- Exarion
+ Mobius or Cyber Dragon

- Exarion
+ Cyber Dragon

- cylinder
+ Ceasefire or Widespread/Sakuretsu

- scapegoat
+ Nobleman of Crossout or reinforcements

- Card of Sanctity
+ Pot of Avarice or soul reversal

- Drillroid
+ Magical Merchant or dekoichi


These are preferences more then fix's. its all good CC stuff. Perfect for the aggro environment.

GG :)

Edit: BadAssDuelist... I hear ya... 5 warriors, 2 reinforcements for me..... werks great, never stuck card! CoS is NO!! advantage unless you want to discard and thin your deck... no draw advantage...Jar of Greed is better in most other cases tho... and thats no great card either

[I Love Manzuri]

wow... you must have HORRIBLE eyesight (although I guess it can be forgiven since I overlooked the one ROTA) :P

I said if you play MORE than 3 warriors.

Which is what I'm doing :(

As far as ure deck, Deff add in that second GEAF........

No way. 1 is bad enough, not to mention it's likely the next card to go if any. Drill is crucial in this game, nuff said.

AH, so you have to have SKILL to make wise use of a card that makes you get rid of everything on your field when your deck has nothing to take advantage of it. LMAO. That statement is mis-interpreted so much it's not funny... "If you have skill..." Sorry, but you aren't using that statement correctly. CoS is a highly situational card with little payoff. Bottom line. No amount of skill will make it able to be viewed as a good card.

It DOES require skill to use Card of Sanctity. How does it have little payoff? If I'm getting punk'd and all I have is crap and I use CoS chances are I get just what I need...

- Exarion
+ Mobius or Cyber Dragon

Before I explain allow me to just say you've killed the very foundation of my deck :-/

Anyways, 3 tributes is a no no in today's game, and Exarion is just great. I have Jinzo and Mobius; no need for more MTness.

- Exarion
+ Cyber Dragon

Let's see...a beatstick with trample or a beatstick? Hmm, the choice is obvious.

- cylinder
+ Ceasefire or Widespread/Sakuretsu

Let's see...I already run 2 Saks and 1 Mirror...Ceasefire is utter ****...yeah I'm gonna stick with Cylinder =D

- scapegoat
+ Nobleman of Crossout or reinforcements

Free stall? Yes plz

- Card of Sanctity
+ Pot of Avarice or soul reversal

A card I don't have or junk that doesn't help...hmm...

- Drillroid
+ Magical Merchant or dekoichi

Lose a staple for unneeded speed?

Dude, there's NO such thing as Aggro; quit breaking mis cajones grandes T_T

[BadAssDuelist]

NO that wasn't mis-interpreted.......You can make it good, set it and wait for when it's needed........It can be very good........Standards and Balance's blah blah blah....Ure turning a simple card game into a rocket science just shut up.........

It's not a "simple" card game when it comes down to how it's supposed to be played. No, CoS cannot be very good. It's a highly situational card with little payoff. I've said it before. Ah, sure, you can sety it and "wait" for it for when a highly rare situation comes along to where you could use it, although by that time it will probably have been destroyed. If you knew anything about how to play the game you'd understand these things, but you obviously don't. As I was saying, playing ROTA along with 4+ warriors in an institution to this game. It's a guideline for building a deck for success. So actually, you were right, you didn't mis-interpret it, you just didn't have a clue what you were talking about.

[GreyFox]

It's not a "simple" card game when it comes down to how it's supposed to be played. No, CoS cannot be very good. It's a highly situational card with little payoff. I've said it before. Ah, sure, you can sety it and "wait" for it for when a highly rare situation comes along to where you could use it, although by that time it will probably have been destroyed. If you knew anything about how to play the game you'd understand these things, but you obviously don't. As I was saying, playing ROTA along with 4+ warriors in an institution to this game. It's a guideline for building a deck for success. So actually, you were right, you didn't mis-interpret it, you just didn't have a clue what you were talking about.
Just shut up already, you suck, we know it, Get over it...........

[BadAssDuelist]

Just shut up already, you suck, we know it, Get over it...........

Wow! Great intelligent argument! LMAO. I stand corrected. To us people with common sense, that's called an "empty, meaningless insult."


Manzuri:

If you are going to use CoS, no it doesn't require skill, just common sense. Don't play it with more than 2 cards on the field :P

And sure, that scenario will come long, but how often? How often WHEN you have the card? Pretty rare. Put these ideas into the equation.

And dude, I understand it's like a slogan of yours, but cut this "No such thing as Aggro" stuff out. I hate it when people simply deny things that exist. Your new user name should be "Carl Everett" XD (Hopefully someone will get this joke)

[I Love Manzuri]

Um...have you any idea the probability of top-decking? CoS is really only used when I need better options. That happens a LOT. I mean, DEE DEE DEE, how often does it happen? TONS! There are many, many times I'm topping or have no good options. Seriously man, kinda obvious :-/

[silverdevilboy]

No, CoS cannot be very good. It's a highly situational card with little payoff. I've said it before. Ah, sure, you can sety it and "wait" for it for when a highly rare situation comes along to where you could use it, although by that time it will probably have been destroyed.
CoS, while trumped by PoA, still can allow you to turn a bad situation into a good one. When 141s abound, then you will topdeck quite a lot, giving you a situation to use it in.
Dark Hole, Cyber Dragon, Heavy Storm are cards you can only use in a bad situation. CoS is a card you can only use effectively in a worse situation than most, but It gives you the chance to draw the cards you need. In this deck, it is likely to get a useful card, since unless I am mistaken, all the cards are useful.

[I Love Manzuri]

That's exactly the point; I usually draw into what I need seeing as the cards are generally good on their own =D

[BadAssDuelist]

I am obviously willing to admit it can be helpful at times, but who cares? It's kind of like playing Heart of Clear Water in a deck that uses ONE monster that it's compatable with. It CAN work, and WILL work at times, but when you just sit back and think, it's not worth it and will usually do nothing but hurt you. Preference can be blind. There are far too many obstacles to get around to make CoS useful in the LEAST. it's highly situational and thus it is indeed a flaw in your deck, that is my point.

[GreyFox]

I am obviously willing to admit it can be helpful at times, but who cares? It's kind of like playing Heart of Clear Water in a deck that uses ONE monster that it's compatable with. It CAN work, and WILL work at times, but when you just sit back and think, it's not worth it and will usually do nothing but hurt you. Preference can be blind. There are far too many obstacles to get around to make CoS useful in the LEAST. it's highly situational and thus it is indeed a flaw in your deck, that is my point.
It's not that situational..................But you should try POA.......I love mine..........Pls R/F the deck in my sig......You still haven't yet........:(

[I Love Manzuri]

I am obviously willing to admit it can be helpful at times, but who cares? It's kind of like playing Heart of Clear Water in a deck that uses ONE monster that it's compatable with. It CAN work, and WILL work at times, but when you just sit back and think, it's not worth it and will usually do nothing but hurt you. Preference can be blind. There are far too many obstacles to get around to make CoS useful in the LEAST. it's highly situational and thus it is indeed a flaw in your deck, that is my point.

Um, here's the thing; CoS is not only very usable but it helps more than it hinders. Now, I'll admit; in THIS format it isn't too useful. However, it still serves its purpose, 's just, in TODAY's game it's less helpful. But back then it was Jesus.

It's not that situational..................But you should try POA.......I love mine..........Pls R/F the deck in my sig......You still haven't yet........:(

I don't see any YGO decks in your sig. I do, however, see a pretty inappropriate link. Nothin major; it doesn't offend me.

Still, if the mods find it you're as good as banned. Just a heads up

[silverdevilboy]

The banner is the link to a list of four decks.

[GreyFox]

The banner is the link to a list of four decks.
Fo Show.......and I got rid of that for my edit of a Tourny I attended......

Additional Comment:
I think these fix's would be cool:

-1 GEAF
-1 Scapegoat
+2 Slate Warrior

Slate is the sex, He's got a good effect too.......Goat's are kinda Meh, People are stating to run Exarion and EBO more and Beast's in general because of SPON and it's Synergy with them.......And With all the duel's I have had Goat's are just a feast for my monster's..........Also try out a Mask Of Darkness, It's pretty good...But you already know that..still a 9.9/10...The link to my deck's is my banner .........

[I Love Manzuri]

Slate doesn't have a broken enough effect for this game :-/

[BadAssDuelist]

Slate doesn't have a broken enough effect for this game :-/

So you are saying isn't a good card at all to use? That came across as a pretty dumb post.

[Shadow The Unborn]

Seeing as sooooomebody got all boo-hooey, they locked my thread, and, thus, here's the version 3. Seriously, I had 500+ first time, 450+ 2nd time, now, hopefully, we can get this one pretty close ><.

There is no Such Thing as Aggro

Monsters: (18)

Mobius the Frost Monarch
Jinzo

Exarion Universe
Exarion Universe
Spirit Reaper
Spirit Reaper
Magician of Faith
Magician of Faith
Don Zaloog
Mystic Swordsman LV2
Exiled Force
D. D. Assailant
D. D. Warrior Lady
Treeborn Frog
Sangan
Goblin Elite Attack Force
Drillroid
Breaker the Magical Warrior

Magic: (14)

Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Card of Sanctity
Reinforcement of the Army
Brain Control
Book of Moon
Nobleman of Crossout
Scapegoat
Graceful Charity
Mystical Space Typhoon
Heavy Storm
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Swords of Revealing Light

Traps: (8)

Sakuretsu Armor
Sakuretsu Armor
Dust Tornado
Dust Tornado
Mirror Force
Call of the Haunted
Torrential Tribute
Magic Cylinder


I'm not sue if it's crossed your mind...but card destruction could come in handy in this deck. sorry the deck is sooooo good I can't find a fix....just a suggestion.

Would you please R/F my deck?

Vampire Bebop
http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=280321

[GreyFox]

So you are saying isn't a good card at all to use? That came across as a pretty dumb post.
For Real, It's better than GEAF atleast, and it can be 2400 attacker.....you should atleast ry it before you dismiss it...............

[BadAssDuelist]

Slate has versatility, that is his biggest plus (Night Assailant anyone?)

[GreyFox]

Slate has versatility, that is his biggest plus (Night Assailant anyone?)
Fo Show, I never thought of that it's great.........( Run's off to make an Anti-Meta Deck, too bad we don't know the new meta yet..... )

[silverdevilboy]

The First section of the gallery is finished, have a look.

I give your deck a 9.99/10. There is something missing, butI can't see what it is. Still an extremely cool deck.

[I Love Manzuri]

So you are saying isn't a good card at all to use? That came across as a pretty dumb post.

Um, it ISN'T a good card to use. Sure, in some jank WIND decks maybe, but, seriously, Slate is crap plain and simple.

I'm not sue if it's crossed your mind...but card destruction could come in handy in this deck. sorry the deck is sooooo good I can't find a fix....just a suggestion.

There's no such thing as a bad hand in this deck; no point in running CD. Lol, the only fix remaining is fixing the truly useless CoS...

For Real, It's better than GEAF atleast, and it can be 2400 attacker.....you should atleast ry it before you dismiss it...............

Um, no it isn't. Slate CAN be 24; GEAF is ALWAYS 2200. Besides, it's a better magnet for Smashing Ground.

Slate has versatility, that is his biggest plus (Night Assailant anyone?)

Real versatile; if you summon it it's a beatstick. If you flip it, it's an even bigger beatstick.

Night Assailant is teh grossness, big time.

There is something missing, butI can't see what it is. Still an extremely cool deck.

A magic card worthy of taking CoS' place

[Lord Soth]

black lotus?

...

*blank stares*

[I Love Manzuri]

black lotus?

...

*blank stares*

Did I say Magic: The Gathering?

Additional Comment:
Meh, new edit.

EDIT:

-Card of Sanctity
+Smashing Ground

Until I can test Pot, that is =D

Additional Comment:
...This deck is suited to change drastically...

...stand by...:-/

P.S. I got Avarice =D

-Smashing Ground
+Pot of Avarice

[Paramore]

hows this new version play testing out for you bud?

[I Love Manzuri]

hows this new version play testing out for you bud?

Horribly. I'm not even going to tell about my regionals yesterday. I'm just going to look over my deck again...

...you guys won't be happy...><

[Chaosmaster10]

nice deck, but ur decks are alway good with a refreshing origionality to them. No card of sanctity though :(

that was a cool tech of urs. Not really nesicary though 10/10

[king666]

lol ur deck got better this list actualy....6/10 cause u finaly stopped with card of sancity

WTH DOES THIS DECK GET STARS..;\

[I Love Manzuri]

nice deck, but ur decks are alway good with a refreshing origionality to them. No card of sanctity though :(

that was a cool tech of urs. Not really nesicary though 10/10

It was back then when we had to pioneer ways of draw power...

lol ur deck got better this list actualy....6/10 cause u finaly stopped with card of sancity

WTH DOES THIS DECK GET STARS..;\

WTH = What the Hell, not Why the Hell :-/...

Let's see...

1. Senseker is my plushie
2. I rule
3. Mi pene es largo, mis cajones son grandes, y ellos son en mis pantelones cortos *****s.

Meh, I'ma looka at it tonight to see if it changes...

[king666]

yea w/e i just dont get it why ur (with all respect) failing decks get stars while good decks mixes with originality get nothing

good original deck>bad original deck

[I Love Manzuri]

The problem is it actually is good :-/

[king666]

well actualy its not even that bad i give ya props for that but its not good either=/ cause of stuff like u main mobius + jinzo sorry dude but those choises make the difference

[The Tourist]

The problem is it actually is good :-/

yeah,,,,,it's dammmmmmmmm good!!!!!

My friend, what happened at the regioanl....:confused:

I can only imagine by your post...nothing good happened. Well, sorry to hear that my friend. Man, I had a crappy time at my reg this past weekend. It was a true ***** fest. You should go read about it in the tourny forum. It's the indy thread.

Well, I'm quite interested on the changes you are going to make. Are maybe you are going to scrap the whole deck...:(

[king666]

yeah,,,,,it's dammmmmmmmm good!!!!!

My friend, what happened at the regioanl....:confused:

I can only imagine by your post...nothing good happened. Well, sorry to hear that my friend. Man, I had a crappy time at my reg this past weekend. It was a true ***** fest. You should go read about it in the tourny forum. It's the indy thread.

Well, I'm quite interested on the changes you are going to make. Are maybe you are going to scrap the whole deck...:(

lol u really surprised he didnt do good at regs?;\

[Jawzfactor]

3. Mi pene es largo, mis cajones son grandes, y ellos son en mis pantelones cortos *****s.
Thats nice. Mi tambien, lol. If you want to flame him, you could simply put:
besas mi asno, as well as eres joto.

Anyways, the deck. Its lost its originallity, not all of it, but enough. Thats not neccessarily bad, although you didn't even want to mention the Regs, so maybe originality worked for you. I'd still like to here about it, maybe I can help figure out where you, or what went wrong. Probably just a bad day, everyone has them. Trust me.
Overall, still around 9/10, just because its similar to an old deck of mine, as well as it seems to do well.

[The Tourist]

lol u really surprised he didnt do good at regs?;\

Ummmm, yeah. He's really quite good at this game. So...yeah. I'm surprised...

[Lord Soth]

lol u really surprised he didnt do good at regs?;\

Dude, you've done nothing but berate him, and its time to stop, you can't possibly make yourself look any better by keeping on doing it, k?

Or, if you don't understand that, here is what I was saying:
SHUT THE **** UP

CyberApe:
9/10, I would also like to learn what happened.

[I Love Manzuri]

Well kids I typed-up a nice 10 page essay on this format, my reggies experience, my new deck, etc, but, thanks to Pojo's crap server, it all got deleted within a swift motion.

So, to those who want full rationale you ain't gettin it. That took over 10 minutes to type and it's all gone. Just get ready for a new CC Ape deck with no originality or flair. PM me if you wanna know what happened.

[You'veBeenPwned]

China > America, and I think we all agree.

Ah, you are funny, and right. Everyone knows that a good country doesn't need child labor laws and does need deadly flew viruses.... Right? Everyone does agree with Manzuri right? Anyways... Why Brain Control? A minus one and 800 life points just to get owned by the monster next turn? That makes sense I guess.

[nicronick]

- Goblin Elite
+ Zaborg

You should take advantage of your treeborn frog and run some more tribures so go for it. 9.7/10 really good deck

mind taking a look at my April 1st deck in my sig.

[ygofan]

the deck looks good.

[I Love Manzuri]

Ah, you are funny, and right. Everyone knows that a good country doesn't need child labor laws and does need deadly flew viruses.... Right? Everyone does agree with Manzuri right? Anyways... Why Brain Control? A minus one and 800 life points just to get owned by the monster next turn? That makes sense I guess.

Oh of course, we really don't need child labor laws seeing as our puritain hypocritic society has prohibited us from having intercourse for the purpose of intercourse due to new life being unholy and unethical and barbaric. Furthermore we ought to have deadly diseases seeing as when the Caucasians (Spanish, British, some French) came to the Americas (N, C, and S) we wiped out species (mostly tribal indians) with our diseases. Oh, sure, we've overcome them unlike many Chinese, but, that's merely because we're putting the mat over the mud to cover up the millions of tribal indians' deaths due to our filthy germs (and guns, of course, which we hold in 1 hand adjacent our Bible).

Anyways, Brain was a great card. I often used it for sac, but it was great for either Game 1stly or damage 2nd (usually a Donny).

Time to edit. Guys...the ape...is...dead ><

[Lord Soth]

dude, I feel for ya.

[I Love Manzuri]

K, it is butchered

[Lord Soth]

dude...you killed it...

[I Love Manzuri]

dude...you killed it...

Franken*****, if you will.

Meh, it's just a test. If it becomes prominent the official name is no longer TinStar but rather: The Shinji Mimura Project. My deck ALWAYS changes due to the fact I've never ran CC...

I'm officially a fark.

[Jawzfactor]

Even though its lost originality, its gained more playablity, even if its not uncommon at regs. The only fix I see is fitting in a Tsukuyomi. With Merchant and Faith, its pwns. But thats just a personal thing. I know you feel its a combo card, so think what you will about it.

Off Topic: Ever thought of trying Phoenix Chaos Control. IT works quite nicely. Just an idea.

[I Love Manzuri]

Even though its lost originality, its gained more playablity, even if its not uncommon at regs. The only fix I see is fitting in a Tsukuyomi. With Merchant and Faith, its pwns. But thats just a personal thing. I know you feel its a combo card, so think what you will about it.

Off Topic: Ever thought of trying Phoenix Chaos Control. IT works quite nicely. Just an idea.

If anything it's less playable. I did this because this format in all its unfairity seems to be about "Whoever draws the most wins." Seriously, atleast in last format it was hard for me to get advantage machine'd. Ugh, but after regionals...it was sick and wrong. So, meh, I'm just running a bit of a CC-AM deck.

Tsuk sucks; it's a dependent card.

Phoenix Chaos Control? Nope, I didn't think of trying a deck that revolves around a 2-tribute monster that is unplayable in this game.