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k-rick
02-20-2006, 09:31 AM
OK, I understand that Yellow version was espically made for the Pikachu part, but why, if you're supposed to be Ash in every game, can't you get a Pikachu that follows you, are end up in a situation where there are no pokemon left? I've got an idea that it was to make the games a little more versitle and to make more money off it, because we all know that everything in the world revolves around money but still.... I'm confused. If anyone has some intell as to why this is so, I'm curious.:rolleyes:

torchamp
02-20-2006, 10:52 AM
OK, I understand that Yellow version was espically made for the Pikachu part, but why, if you're supposed to be Ash in every game, can't you get a Pikachu that follows you, are end up in a situation where there are no pokemon left? I've got an idea that it was to make the games a little more versitle and to make more money off it, because we all know that everything in the world revolves around money but still.... I'm confused. If anyone has some intell as to why this is so, I'm curious.:rolleyes:

from what I could understand you are asking why we don't get the yellow rat as our starter in every game. Well this is because people would get bored of always training the same starter, they want something new every generation. Also some peopl don't want to play as ash and the bigest part is that THE GAME IS NOT MEANT TO BE THE SAME AS THE ANIME! it is kept seperate for a reason. And that idea would not help the pokemon franchise at all. No one wants to have an unevolvable, weak starter for four generations in a row.

k-rick
02-20-2006, 06:32 PM
What would then be the point of making versions like Blue and Red. Why not just make Red, or make Silver? A unique version should than be make every new season. But that means thats they should only make 1 version of a regualar training game wouldn't it?

Yellow version lover
02-21-2006, 02:33 AM
This is purely my opinion...yah I know, I have loads to say. Not sure whether it is exactly true, correct me if I'm wrong...

First thing is that these pokemon versions are created first. Red and blue versions are the original versions while green is the japanese version. It is because there was a great uprise in popularity of the game and so pokemon anime was created. The show with Ash and his buddy pikachu was very popular too and so pokemon yellow was born.

Basically, pokemon yellow is a derivative from the show. Most follows: You have the "unevolvable yellow rat" pikachu and as Ash and pikachu are close, you are able to monitor that pokemon closely which you are unable to do so in all other versions (such as gold, ruby and firered). You would also get the 3 starter pokemon of red and blue version too...just that you can evlove them if you want to.

It is true that these 4 versions are based on the same plot. However, the difference is that certain versions are unable to catch certain pokemon. Quoting from yellow, you are unable to catch weedle and its evlove forms, Jessie’s and James’ pokemon, etc. So to catch all 150 pokemon and get that diploma, trading of the different versions are needed. Also, the kind of pokemon and level one can find in a certain area is based on different versions too.

In the case of ruby/sapphire/emerald, groundon can be found in ruby only while kyogre can only be found in sapphire only. For the emerald version, it is like the combination of ruby and sapphire; both the ancient pokemon can be found in emerald. (So the equation would be: ruby+sapphire=emerld. For gold/silver/crystal, the same applies: gold+silver=crystal). If I'm not mistaken, Wallace, supposingly the leader of sootopolis, replaces Steven, the person you are suppose to battle after the elite 4. Then someone else becomes the leader of spptopolis...no?

For firered/leafgreen, it is almost the same plot as red/blue/yellow/green. Due to the upgrade of outlook, the tune/music and the technologyof the recent years, firered/ leafgreen are thus created. Tune/music wise is modified to sound more catchy/ pleasant but the music is basically on the same note. (Well, hear the 2 kinds for yourself and you will know what I mean!) Technology wise such as the exp.all in yellow changes to become exp.share in firered/ leafgreen (personally, I think exp.all is ridiculous, you have to share with all the pokemon you have and it becomes very "naggy" and long). There is also the v.s seeker, making sure you never run of trainers to challenge.

It also has the seven islands which allow one to catch jotho region pokemon. With the seven islands, there is more training ground. The thing is, after you chellenge the E4, they would not only replace their lousiest pokemon with a jotho pokemon, they would also become much stronger. This is the advantage (or disadvantage...to me:p) of firered/leafgreen, the trainners are much challenging than red/blue/ yellow/green.

All in all, if you are talking about the different plots for interest sake, you've got it! Kanto, Jotho and Hoenn regions have different pokemon and a totally new story line. However, there are some pokemon of a certain region which can be found in another region because of a new evolution created or because...the pokemon is popular? For example, pikachu and richu are "hold back" in jotho as pichu, the pre-evlove form of pikachu, is "discovered". And the useless magikarp is "called back" because of its popular evolution form, Mr.gyrados, which remains too.

And lastly, yah, I admit too, they make the different versions is because of the money factor....making money! :D

clown master
02-21-2006, 09:28 AM
Actually, it was Red and Green, Then Blue, which had different graphics than the two. Then They released Red and Green in the states as Red and Blue. the Majority of the rest of your stuff I didn't pick up, but yeah...

InterFed_OV
02-21-2006, 09:48 AM
Red and Green in Japan had really bad graphics. Blue in Japan updated the graphics a little (but sadly not the Pokémon behind sprites, those are from the original Red/Green), and also changed the layout of Unknown Dungeon. When the US got Red and Blue, we got JP Blue's better graphics and new Unknown Dungeon layout. Yellow was released due to the popularity of the anime, and was based on the anime in terms of Pokémon availability.

pikafan
02-21-2006, 10:24 AM
from what I could understand you are asking why we don't get the yellow rat as our starter in every game. Well this is because people would get bored of always training the same starter, they want something new every generation. Also some peopl don't want to play as ash and the bigest part is that THE GAME IS NOT MEANT TO BE THE SAME AS THE ANIME! it is kept seperate for a reason. And that idea would not help the pokemon franchise at all. No one wants to have an unevolvable, weak starter for four generations in a row.

I no wat u meen. people were luky in the amine, but not ash. he was l8, so the only pokemon left was pikachu. people want multiple choice, not "u must hav this"! in pallet, 3 tranrs, 1 of them gary(soz if i got that rong, i havnt seen "i choose you" but gary has a blastoise so i asume.), took bulbasaur, charmander and squirtle. as i sed, ash was unluky. and by the way, pikachu isnt week!

InterFed_OV
02-21-2006, 11:07 AM
Yes, you're right. Gary started with Squirtle in the anime, though in Yellow version, he starts with Eevee.

DarkPaladinofChaos
02-21-2006, 01:43 PM
I've traded Pikachu from Yellow to Gold. THEN, it stayed in the Poke' Ball. I don't realize why the Programmers couldn't make Pikachu stay out of it. Anyway, this IS the Yellow Version we're talking about, so I'll stay off of the Gold topic.

You aren't meant to be Ash in every game.

There.

Yellow version lover
02-22-2006, 12:52 AM
Actually, it was Red and Green, Then Blue, which had different graphics than the two. Then They released Red and Green in the states as Red and Blue. the Majority of the rest of your stuff I didn't pick up, but yeah...

Oh I see, 'coz the games i have was red and blue in english while green is in japanese. And my favourite yellow (of course in english)...all in one cartridge.

So..what do you mean of "the rest of the stuff you didn't pick up"? Which part you don't get?:p

Red and Green in Japan had really bad graphics. Blue in Japan updated the graphics a little (but sadly not the Pokémon behind sprites, those are from the original Red/Green), and also changed the layout of Unknown Dungeon. When the US got Red and Blue, we got JP Blue's better graphics and new Unknown Dungeon layout. Yellow was released due to the popularity of the anime, and was based on the anime in terms of Pokémon availability.

So luckily the US know how to choose the games...if not we people will be "suffering"! And yup, as I mentioned in my previous thread, yellow was created due to "the popularity of the anime". Well, it was because of the show which makes me aware of these gameboy versions in the first place!:)

I no wat u meen. people were luky in the amine, but not ash. he was l8, so the only pokemon left was pikachu. people want multiple choice, not "u must hav this"! in pallet, 3 tranrs, 1 of them gary(soz if i got that rong, i havnt seen "i choose you" but gary has a blastoise so i asume.), took bulbasaur, charmander and squirtle. as i sed, ash was unluky. and by the way, pikachu isnt week!

But i don't get what you guys mean...the part "he was l8, so the only pokemon left was pikachu". Could someone explain?

And, yes, I definately agree pikachu ain't a weakling (as a "yellow version lover")! Perheps its defense stats is not very good as well as its hp 'coz it does not want to evlove. So you always can give it some additional items such as hp up.

Yes, you're right. Gary started with Squirtle in the anime, though in Yellow version, he starts with Eevee.

OK... I think I better watch some shows with Gary in it to see what pokemon he has (the ones on his belt, I know he has like almost the whole collection in total). However, i am sure he has an eevee too...

I've traded Pikachu from Yellow to Gold. THEN, it stayed in the Poke' Ball. I don't realize why the Programmers couldn't make Pikachu stay out of it. Anyway, this IS the Yellow Version we're talking about, so I'll stay off of the Gold topic.

You aren't meant to be Ash in every game.

There.


As i mentioned in my previous tread, i guess only yellow version allows pikachu to stay out of the poke ball. Yellow version, afterall, follows the annime. Pikachu in the other versions will be treated as a normal pokemon like the rest, so it stays in the poke ball!

Err...I happen to cross topics as i am doing some comparing and contrasting to the other versions. Well, i was trying to make my point clear but my main aim was to focus on the red/blue/yellow versions.

shadowbahamut
02-22-2006, 10:03 PM
But i don't get what you guys mean...the part "he was l8, so the only pokemon left was pikachu". Could someone explain?


IIRC ash woke up really late for oak to give out the three starters..When he got there there were none but oak said"i did just catch this pokemon.it was just caught so it wont like you".Then he gave ash pikachu and pikachu would always electrocute ash.thats why in the beggining pika doesnt like ur character in the begginning of yellow.

Yellow version lover
02-23-2006, 01:29 AM
Oh I see...that's what they meant, now it make sense. Yah, I did watch the first episode "I Choose You, Pikachu!" and a few others after that but it was so long ago. Yup, pikachu initially was always "electrocuting Ash" as it doesn’t trusting him. However, it instantly has a liking to beautiful Misty. Then soon the annime tries to tease the 2 of them as an item. That was kinna funny and nice, the whole thing you know. I like it…them being together! Anyway…

And you are right, it dislikes Ash, however...we can cheat on that in the game! Give pikachu for 15 times at the beginning. Best if it has full hp, it will say "it has no effect". See that for 15 times and your pikachu will like you! By the time you reach cerulean city wanting to obtain balbasaur, there will definitely be no problem at all. 'Coz pikachu by then will be so "in love" with you, you practically see hearts appearing on top of pikachu when you speak to it!

PokeFan Wally
03-01-2006, 04:58 PM
Hmmmm i find it great to have to start off like good old ash did and being able to get charmander squirtal and bubasour!

I think it's cool:D :rolleyes:

Tis the way of the ninja..warrior...

Primal Rage
03-09-2006, 01:21 PM
OKAY..........dude..BREATH! Really all this talk about the "unevolvable yellow rat" (lol i like that thx dude) reminded me of a funny thing if u fish then turn and talk to pikachu then hes got a bucket on his head lol...that just reminded me of it sorry for interupting the *Huge Argument/Discussion*

orange peel
03-18-2006, 06:13 PM
I like to choose my starting pokemon. i like the 3 ring idea of fire, leaf, and water.

but i wish i could turn around a hit pikachu in the game just for fun

CLOUD FINAL FANTASY
03-26-2006, 02:39 PM
What would then be the point of making versions like Blue and Red?

Primal Rage
03-28-2006, 01:43 PM
They came out first, along with green in japan, just so you could get whatever one you like best on the front of the cartrridge

Additional Comment:
They came out first, along with green in japan, just so you could get whatever one you like best on the front of the cartrridge:D (i have no idea if this is really true i just enjoy the idea

My favorite type picture of the day: Sad *crying*

T_T

Yellow version lover
03-31-2006, 02:47 AM
I like to choose my starting pokemon. i like the 3 ring idea of fire, leaf, and water.

but i wish i could turn around a hit pikachu in the game just for fun


However, in the yellow version, you don't need to fume what starter pokemon to choose next. You can merge fire, water and grass in your team...and the best of all, it is given to you, free!

Just that you will be stuck with the "unevlovable yellow rat" :rolleyes: , pikachu. I realised after playing the game, it is kinna weak... 'Coz it can't survive lorei's lapras' blizzard. This is still the outcome even you max out pikachu's conditions. Unless pikachu is at a very high level, like 60?

::haku::
04-14-2006, 10:59 AM
Pikachu Is Bad I Hate The Fact U Start With Him In Yellow! If It Was In Real Life I Would Have Beat Gary Down And Taken Eeve

CLOUD FINAL FANTASY
04-14-2006, 04:04 PM
i dont like pikachu he sucks

Yellow version lover
04-15-2006, 12:02 PM
For people who doesn't like to start off with pikachu, my advice is not to play the yellow version then. Whatever make yourself misarable whenever you on the game, pikachu's face has to pop up on the screen?

JainaTheGoddess
04-15-2006, 12:18 PM
The whole point of this game was to make it more realistic according to the series. Such as you are most like Ash in the game and that's why you are stuck with the Pikachu. Thus why you get bulbasaur, charmander, and squirtle. So, if you don't ike it just play a different version in which there isn't something following you around.

-jaina

masterphil
04-15-2006, 01:19 PM
I got a question about yellow's pikachu...

If u trade it, and then trade it back, will it still follow u??? And can u use a thunder stone on it??

JainaTheGoddess
04-16-2006, 12:47 AM
Pikachu will remain...I don't even know if you are able to trade it. I never tried that.....
And I am almost certain you can evolve it.

-jaina

(Keep in mind that it has been quite a few years since I played any Pokemon games, so I am a little rusty)

CLOUD FINAL FANTASY
04-16-2006, 12:49 AM
you cant evolve it i try it

JainaTheGoddess
04-16-2006, 12:53 AM
Oh...hm I thought u could...but it makes sense that you can't, so I am guessing that you can't trade it either, for it just wouldn't be right....

-jaina

CLOUD FINAL FANTASY
04-16-2006, 12:58 AM
yeah im not sure you can trade it

Yellow version lover
04-23-2006, 08:41 AM
I doubt so too. 'Coz then, it won't follow the stroy of the annime then. According to the show, evloving means there might be a change of charactor and personality. That's why ash and pikachu are not at all keen on evolution.

Pikachu is the main character, so it has to follow the plot. For the rest of ash's pokemon, you can choose to keep and evlove them.

For example, i don't understand why ash squirtle battles so much but doesn't show any sign of evolution? Ash seems not to like evloved pokemon huh? I am sure for we 'trainers', our team definatly consist of all evloved pokemon. (except pikachu of course).:cool:

Rare_Pokemon
04-25-2006, 11:37 AM
in pokemon yellow you can evolve pikachu, but you have to trade him to another cart to do it and then trade it back. it doesnt effect the story at all, the only thing is that he won't be seen on the map following ash around.

ULra
08-17-2006, 12:47 PM
I got a question about yellow's pikachu...

If u trade it, and then trade it back, will it still follow u??? And can u use a thunder stone on it??
That brings up a question of my own. Trade it, evolve it, then trade it back, will it follow you as raichu?