Because everyone else did one, a real ban list.

[darkendlink]

Real Banlist. Not some noob fest. Balancing CC.


I. Forbidden Cards

You cannot use these cards in your Deck, Fusion Deck or Side Deck.

Black Luster Soldier – Envoy of the Beginning
Butterfly Dagger – Elma
Catapult Turtle
Chaos Emperer Dragon- Envoy of the End
Cyber Jar
Graceful Charity
Delinquent Duo
Fiber Jar
Harpie's Feather Duster
Imperial Order
Monster Reborn
Morphing Jar
Mirage of Nightmare
Raigeki
Reinforcement of the Army
Ring of Destruction
Sinister Serpent
Sixth Sense
The Forceful Sentry
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Tsukuyomi
Witch of the Black Forest


NEW! – Catapult Turtle, Cyber Jar, Morphing Jar, Reinforcement of the Army, Tsukuyomi

II. Limited Cards

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.

Breaker the Magical Warrior
Call of the Haunted
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Change of Heart
Chaos Sorcerer
Confiscation
D.D. Assailant
D. D. Warrior Lady
Dark Hole
Deck Devastation Virus
Exchange of Spirit
Exiled Force
Exodia the Forbidden One
Heavy Storm
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Larvae Moth
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Lightning Vortex
Limiter Removal
Manticore of Darkness
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Magical Scientist
Magician of Faith
Makyura the Destructor
Metamorphosis
Mirror Force
Mystical Space Typhoon
Nobleman of Crossout
Night Assailant
Painful Choice
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Reckless Greed
Reflect Bounder
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Sangan
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Torrential Tribute
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand

NEW! – Change of Heart, Chaos Sorcerer, D.D. Assailant, Magical Scientist, Manticore of Darkness, Mirror Force, Painful Choice, Pot of Greed

III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.

Abyss Soldier
Book of Moon
Creature Swap
Dark Magician of Chaos
D.D. Assailant
Emergency Provisions
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Scapegoat
Upstart Goblin

NEW! – Book of Moon, Scapegoat, Dark Magician of Chaos

Unrestricted
Book of Taiyou

[topspin1617]

You banned Reinforcement of the Army =/

[PMasterS]

This is one of the better lists that I've seen so far.

Banning ROTA may be a little strong, putting it to 1 would still be ok.

I disagree with bringing CoH back, but i'm nt too bothered.
I disagree with bringing noth gaceful and PoG back at once, PoG would be the one i'd see back.

I don't think Mystic Tomato deserves limiting.



The only problem is that for the CC people will just run
3 Cyber Dragons
2 DDA
1 DDWL
1 Breaker
1 Sangan
1 Magical Scientist
1 MoF
1 Chaos Socerer
1 Magical Merchant
2 Spirit Reaper
1 Don Zaloog
1 Mystic Tomato
1 Tsukuyomi

1 PoG
1 Graceful
1 Painful Choice
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm
1 MST
1 Snatch
1 Prem
1 SoRL
1 CoH
2 Scapegoat
2 BoM
1 Metamorphosis
1 Nobleman of X-out
2 Smashing Ground

1 Mirror Force
1 CoTH
1 Torrential
1 Dust Tornado
1 Sakuretsu Armor


Or something to that effect.

[topspin1617]

This is one of the better lists that I've seen so far.

Banning ROTA may be a little strong, putting it to 1 would still be ok.

I disagree with bringing CoH back, but i'm nt too bothered.
I disagree with bringing noth gaceful and PoG back at once, PoG would be the one i'd see back.

I don't think Mystic Tomato deserves limiting.



The only problem is that for the CC people will just run
3 Cyber Dragons
2 DDA
1 DDWL
1 Breaker
1 Sangan
1 Magical Scientist
1 MoF
1 Chaos Socerer
1 Magical Merchant
2 Spirit Reaper
1 Don Zaloog
1 Mystic Tomato
1 Tsukuyomi

1 PoG
1 Graceful
1 Painful Choice
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm
1 MST
1 Snatch
1 Prem
1 SoRL
1 CoH
2 Scapegoat
2 BoM
1 Metamorphosis
1 Nobleman of X-out
2 Smashing Ground

1 Mirror Force
1 CoTH
1 Torrential
1 Dust Tornado
1 Sakuretsu Armor


Or something to that effect.

I think RotA is okay at 2. It wasn't as big last format as it is right now, you didn't have Toolbox for every deck.

Now, in decks that don't have a lot of Warriors, it is usually splashed at 1 per deck. I say let them splash it and let the people that want to run Warriors have their 2 RotA.

I think PoG and Graceful could be okay, it's not too bad.

The CC would probably look something like that. The thing is, it isn't too big of a change from this format, I can still see duels going the same way.

[Kensh0rz]

Banning the best theme support in the game (RoTA) will not encourage diversity or change the game for the better in any way. It's fine at 2.

Tomato doesn't deserve to go to 2, let alone 1. Same with Sorceror.

There are other OTKs with Scientist.

But hey, at least you aren't one of the people trying to put Dekoichi at 1...

[NephthysPhoenix]

Real Banlist. Not some noob fest. Balancing CC.


I. Forbidden Cards

You cannot use these cards in your Deck, Fusion Deck or Side Deck.

Black Luster Soldier – Envoy of the Beginning
Butterfly Dagger – Elma
Catapult Turtle
Cyber Jar
Delinquent Duo
Fiber Jar
Harpie's Feather Duster
Imperial Order
Monster Reborn
Morphing Jar
Mirage of Nightmare
Raigeki
Reinforcement of the Army
Ring of Destruction
Sinister Serpent
Sixth Sense
The Forceful Sentry
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Witch of the Black Forest


NEW! – Catapult Turtle, Cyber Jar, Morphing Jar, Reinforcement of the Army

II. Limited Cards

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.

Breaker the Magical Warrior
Call of the Haunted
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Change of Heart
Chaos Sorcerer
Confiscation
Graceful Charity
D. D. Warrior Lady
Dark Hole
Deck Devastation Virus
Exchange of Spirit
Exiled Force
Exodia the Forbidden One
Heavy Storm
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Larvae Moth
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Lightning Vortex
Limiter Removal
Manticore of Darkness
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Magical Scientist
Magician of Faith
Makyura the Destructor
Metamorphosis
Mirror Force
Mystical Space Typhoon
Mystic Tomato
Nobleman of Crossout
Night Assailant
Painful Choice
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Reckless Greed
Reflect Bounder
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Sangan
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Torrential Tribute
Tsukuyomi
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand

NEW! – Change of Heart, Chaos Sorcerer, Graceful Charity, Change of Heart, Magical Scientist, Manticore of Darkness, Mirror Force, Mystic tomato, Painful Choice, Pot of Greed

III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.

Abyss Soldier
Book of Moon
Creature Swap
Dark Magician of Chaos
D.D. Assailant
Emergency Provisions
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Scapegoat
Upstart Goblin

NEW! – Book of Moon, Scapegoat, Dark Magician of Chaos, D.D. Assailant

Unrestricted
Book of Taiyou

Nice restriction list. Hello people! Ninja, D.D. Survivor, and Mystic swordsman LV2 with Reinforcements!

NEW! – Change of Heart, Chaos Sorcerer, Graceful Charity, Change of Heart, Magical Scientist, Manticore of Darkness, Mirror Force, Mystic tomato, Painful Choice, Pot of Greed

Change of heart: We have 3 Brain Controls no

Graceful Chairty: Dark World two Goldd or siilva bleh

Scientist: no we still have batler and Senshi

Painful Choice: Fiends...no

Pot of greed: free draw two cards no

Everything else no. If you want me to go in full detail let me know :D.

NEW! – Book of Moon, Scapegoat, Dark Magician of Chaos, D.D. Assailant

DMOC: FTK with this card just became stronger.

DDA: limit it to one and it be good

everything else great :D.

[finalfantasyfreak]

Hey, this is good.

Except for RotA and Tomato. They aren't that great. RotA should be restricted to 1 and Tomato should be restricted to 2.
And in my opinion, WotBF should be back on the restricted list.


And you posted CoH twice on the restricted list.

[Ordyh]

Larve Moth needs to be banned XD!

seriously, i like this list! finally a list w/o the whole "BAN CYBER BAN DDA B/C I CANT GET ANY WAH WAH WAH!" the only thing i dont like is the banning of Morphing Jar and ROTA, they should be put to 1....along with BLS, if so this list is the best ive seen ^.^!

[hachiroku]

looks good for a list, but i think we need only either pot or graceful since a lot of people are using the tsukuyomi and magician of faith combo a lot.

u sure u want 2 DMoC bak?

[Kiriyama]

whats with everyone being against larvae moth that card is broken... lols.

[darkendlink]

You banned Reinforcement of the Army =/

The best support card in the game. The reason why warriors are so strong becuase with this card they could pull anything the need at any given time, maybe to one might work.

This is one of the better lists that I've seen so far.

Banning ROTA may be a little strong, putting it to 1 would still be ok.

I disagree with bringing CoH back, but i'm nt too bothered.
I disagree with bringing noth gaceful and PoG back at once, PoG would be the one i'd see back.

I don't think Mystic Tomato deserves limiting.


Banning reinforcement question again. I might put it back to 1.

Well, CoH is a -1 advantage. If you don't tribute the card you use, than it won't effect much.

I think graceful needs to return, along with pot. This way the game gets more speed.

looks good for a list, but i think we need only either pot or graceful since a lot of people are using the tsukuyomi and magician of faith combo a lot.

u sure u want 2 DMoC bak?

Maybe just Pot should return for now.

2 DMOC should be fine. He is not too broken anyway.

Banning the best theme support in the game (RoTA) will not encourage diversity or change the game for the better in any way. It's fine at 2.

Tomato doesn't deserve to go to 2, let alone 1. Same with Sorceror.

There are other OTKs with Scientist.

But hey, at least you aren't one of the people trying to put Dekoichi at 1...

Than what would you suggest?

Change of heart: We have 3 Brain Controls no
That card is a -1 advantage. I don't even now why it's on the list.

Graceful Chairty: Dark World two Goldd or siilva bleh
Morphing Jar is gone, which is ten times worse with Dark World. Besides this game needs draw power.

Scientist: no we still have batler and Senshi
Those huys aren't too much of a threat.

Painful Choice: Fiends...no
Since when were fiends a problem?

Pot of greed: free draw two cards no
This game functions too slowly

Everything else no. If you want me to go in full detail let me know
than tell me.

[NephthysPhoenix]

well I wont be able to finish it all. because I have to leave, but I will telly a some of it.

Change of heart: We have 3 Brain Controls no
That card is a -1 advantage. I don't even now why it's on the list.

because it's cost payment, and it's not free. It might see one I dont know, but so far it doesnt look like it.


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Graceful Chairty: Dark World two Goldd or siilva bleh
Morphing Jar is gone, which is ten times worse with Dark World. Besides this game needs draw power.

There's still "Card Destruction"
Don Zaloog
Spirit Reaper
SOme other sI cant think of right now bleh there was a whole list of them I have to find it.


Quote:
Scientist: no we still have batler and Senshi
Those huys aren't too much of a threat.

They will be if scientist comes back and there will be still morphed.


Quote:
Painful Choice: Fiends...no
Since when were fiends a problem?

Not right now since fiends are not gone, but not as powerful. Dark Necrophear would be running a muck and so would chaos sorcerer and dimension fusion and strike Ninja.


Quote:
Pot of greed: free draw two cards no
This game functions too slowly

Slowly and learn how to keep hand advantage. You cant keep a hand then your SOL.


Quote:
Everything else no. If you want me to go in full detail let me know
than tell me.

Just did :D. Its a good list though It's still not fulld etail though. Full detail is for me 6 paragraphs ^^;;

[PMasterS]

Well, CoH is a -1 advantage. If you don't tribute the card you use, than it won't effect much.


That card is a -1 advantage. I don't even now why it's on the list.


Because Card Advantage doesn't exist.

Also the reason its banned is that it controls flip effects too much, many people just refuse to use flip effects for fear that CoH will take it way from them, the only exceptions are when the effect is deemed worth the risk, e.g Fiber Jar.