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Dark-Link
01-14-2006, 08:37 PM
Well, the votes from the thread "Article #21: ? Deck Strats" are all in, and Fire barely won over Water, then Light in 3rd place.... Earth was at 4th and Dark in last (I wonder why lol).
So, lets get this started, I have the feeling it's going to be a long article.
My view on the Attribute
Well, seeing as how this was my very first theme deck I ever built... I was hoping I could re-visit this first (wind was "technically" first... but that was before I decided on a specific order for the articles ).
The build I used to have, was more of a aggro build, using Little Chimera and Molten Destruction to power up my Dark Fire Soldiers (numbers 1 and 2)... Also, this was in the PSV days, so no Blazing Inpachi or Gaia Soul....This is the type of build I focused most on, as you will find out soon.
The "Branch's" of this Attribute deck
Burn - The most obvious of this attribute, this route easily locks down the field and keeps it that way while attacking direct with Raging Flame Sprite and having Solar Flare Dragons on the field adding 500 + damage each turn (1500 max(500 per solar flare)). And last but not least, lets not forget good old Lava Golem...
I built what I figured would be a good (and I actually named it) "Fire Burner" deck....
For those who would like to see a sample deck list, this is what I had (a while ago mind you since i've been practicing and modifying the b.w.'s consistently for regionals).
Monsters(15)
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2x Lava Golem
3x Solar Flare Dragon
3x Raging Flame Sprite
3x UFO Turtle
2x Ultimate Baseball Kid
2x Inferno
Spells(15)
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2x Level Limit Area - B
2x Messenger of Peace
1x Snatch Steal
2x Brain Control
2x Wave Motion Cannon
2x Creature Swap
1x Mystical Space Typhoon
2x My Body As A Shield
1x Premature Burial
Traps(10)
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2x Gravity Bind
3x Nightmare Wheel
1x Call of the Haunted
2x Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai
2x Solemn Judgement
A mean trick a friend showed me (arthur t on these boards...) was to give them lava golem, brain control it, and spiritual fire art it, or if I don't have any stall up, attack with it and THEN spiritual fire art it..
The deck's main weakness is obviously "the back row"... if they use a Heavy Storm or Giant Trunade or something of the sort, it can ruin your plans wiith relative ease.
Hand Disruption - This is a strategy that was taken from Evan Vargas's Soul Control, except that it allows the player to "abuse" Thestalos , the Firestorm Monarch over and over and over again .
Again, here is a rough deck list for those whom wish to see one:
Monsters(16)
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3x Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
3x UFO Turtle
2x The Thing in the Crater
3x Spirit of Flames
3x Solar Flare Dragon
2x Fox Fire
Spells(16)
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1x Swords of Revealing Light
2x Molten Destruction
1x Terraforming
3x Soul Exchange
2x Brain Control
1x Snatch Steal
1x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Dark Hole
1x Heavy Storm
1x Scapegoat
1x Nobleman of Crossout
1x Premature Burial
Traps(8)
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2x Compulsory Evacuation Device
2x Emobidment of Apophis
1x Call of the Haunted
1x Torrential Tribute
2x Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai
The Self-Revival Build - Basically, there is a way to make a deck around the monsters that bring themselves back to the field, and if you take a close look at the majority of the monsters, most are Fire attribute : Phoenix, Manticore, Fox Fire, etc..
The deck itself on paper looked amazing, but in playtesting, it didn't wanna work for me, so if you're willing and able to playtest , and hopefully you'll build upon this since I believe if my idea is continued on, it can become one NASTY deck!!( I mean, hey, they have to waste their removal, but your monsters only come back and you gain resources!)
Here is a small build of what I had (not the actual self-revival deck, but a Fire version ..):
Monsters(16)
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1x Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
2x Manticore of Darkness
3x Great Angus
3x Little Chimera
3x UFO Turtle
2x The Thing in the Crater (usually use this to special summon fox fire..)
2x Fox Fire
Spells(17)
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2x Brain Control
2x Fissure
2x Card of Safe Return
1x Premature Burial
2x Molten Destruction
1x Terraforming
1x Snatch Steal
1x Dark Hole
1x Heavy Storm
1x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Swords of Revealing Light
2x Messenger of Peace
Traps(7)
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1x Call of the Haunted
2x Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai
2x Dust Tornado
2x Sakuretsu Armor
Aggro - Constantly "on their back"... Basically you rarely stop your offense against them, but since most fire monsters have a burnish kind of effect, there's burn on the side dish somewhere.
So, Imagine you're facing down a deck that is damaging you by battle AND by burn?... Not easy to get by, especially if they have a Backfire face up.
The Final Build
Since in my opinion , the best route for Fire is aggro, it is my final build, and many will not believe me, but everyone who knows me in real life know it's the truth, but this deck, went undefeated for the longest time up until I got "clumped" ...
I'm getting REALLY tired right about now, so i'm going to finish this article up...
Monsters(17)
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3x Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
3x UFO Turtle
3x Solar Flare Dragon
2x The Thing in the Crater (alternate way to bring up thestalos)
2x Familiar Possessed - Hiita (it used to be blazing inpachi)
2x Gaia Soul, the Combustible Collective
2x Spirit of Flames
Spells(17)
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2x Molten Destruction
2x Brain Control
1x Nobleman of Crossout
1x Book of Moon
1x Terraforming
1x Heavy Storm
1x Mystical Space Typhoon
2x Nobleman of Extermination
1x Dark Hole
1x Premature Burial
1x Giant Trunade
1x Scapegoat
2x Creature Swap
Traps(6)
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2x Spiritual Fire Art - Kurenai
2x Backfire
1x Call of the Haunted
1x Torrential Tribute
And there it is folks, the one and truly Fire aggro build!!
Note: At the time it was undefeated, however, it wasn't a time where people were going crazy over Don Zaloogs... so the deck's effectiveness may have changed a bit...
Note #2: The Fire Aggro Build I believe would work better pure, but some of the other variants like the burn build, can be more effective non-pure.
Note #3: Hope you enjoyed this article!
Note #4: 1 article left before the b.w. article! (well, for those that are actually excited anyway...)
Until next time....
-J.C.
Up next : Water
nicholascobalt
01-14-2006, 08:54 PM
:mad: my Fox Fire is really mad he didn't make the Final cut... T_T - he bit me. (26 more times and I could die from it)
I used to have an Exodia Deck based on Fox Fire/Phoenix that abused Skill Drain, I have the deck list - updated for format, check it out.
Fire Fox + The Dark Door is sexy... especially with Card of Safe Return.
5x Exodia (yep 25 cards... not really)
3x Fox Fire
2x UFO Turtle
1x The Thing in the Crater
1x Sacred Phoenix
2x Fusilier the Duel Mode Beast
2x Manticore of Darkness
3x Goblin Attack Force (before Elite came out - better in this deck anyways)
1x Exiled Force
2x Apprentice Magician
1x Sangan
1x Twin Headed Behemoth
1x Dark Hole
1x Heavy Storm
2x The Dark Door
1x Reinfrcements of the Army
1x Premature Burial
1x Snatch Steal
3x Card of Safe Return
1x Book of Taiyou
2x Gravity Bind/Level Limit Area B
2x Skill Drain
1x Call of the Haunted
Note: Please include TADPOLEs in the Water Strats final deck build... even without Des Frog they give advantage - though Des Frogs make them hundreds of times better.
One card I have seen used in a fire burner that you didn't use:
Nitro Unit.
Seriously, UBK gets strong enough so he can abuse that.
Dark-Link
01-14-2006, 09:02 PM
:mad: my Fox Fire is really mad he didn't make the Final cut... T_T - he bit me. (26 more times and I could die from it)
I used to have an Exodia Deck based on Fox Fire/Phoenix that abused Skill Drain, I have the deck list - updated for format, check it out.
Fire Fox + The Dark Door is sexy... especially with Card of Safe Return.
5x Exodia (yep 25 cards... not really)
3x Fox Fire
2x UFO Turtle
1x The Thing in the Crater
1x Sacred Phoenix
2x Fusilier the Duel Mode Beast
2x Manticore of Darkness
3x Goblin Attack Force (before Elite came out - better in this deck anyways)
1x Exiled Force
2x Apprentice Magician
1x Sangan
1x Twin Headed Behemoth
1x Dark Hole
1x Heavy Storm
2x The Dark Door
1x Reinfrcements of the Army
1x Premature Burial
1x Snatch Steal
3x Card of Safe Return
1x Book of Taiyou
2x Gravity Bind/Level Limit Area B
2x Skill Drain
1x Call of the Haunted
That is a VERY unique deck... I hope it works as good as it looks.
And Fox Fire didn't make the "final" cut, because the deck was based on pure aggro , and Fox Fire would be just a staller...
nicholascobalt
01-14-2006, 09:02 PM
One card I have seen used in a fire burner that you didn't use:
Nitro Unit.
Seriously, UBK gets strong enough so he can abuse that.
He could also use the well themed Iron Blacksmith to search for it, Premature Burial, and Snatch Steal.
That is a VERY unique deck... I hope it works as good as it looks.
And Fox Fire didn't make the "final" cut, because the deck was based on pure aggro , and Fox Fire would be just a staller...
It works wonders ^^ - sadly I really don't like to play OTK or alternative wins anymore... I like to deck them out/kill them outright when I can - it's more fun... what made the deck so nice is that so much of my opponents monsters don't work properly, and all of mine work as good or better with Skill Drain.
T_T Fire Fox didn't make the cut over Scapegoats... Owch!! Quit Biting me... 25 to go before I die. - I hope your happy.
He could also use the well themed Iron Blacksmith to search for it, Premature Burial, and Snatch Steal.
Precisely.
Dark-Link
01-14-2006, 09:04 PM
One card I have seen used in a fire burner that you didn't use:
Nitro Unit.
Seriously, UBK gets strong enough so he can abuse that.
I wasn't basing it off the baseball kid, I was basing it off having a stall card up, and either burning them with solar flare, or hitting direct with the sprite(s).. UBK does get big, but with the removal around, it don't last very long...
The only real use I could see with Nitro Unit would be to give them a lava golem, equip it with nitro, and destroy it with UBK..
nicholascobalt
01-14-2006, 09:08 PM
I wasn't basing it off the baseball kid, I was basing it off having a stall card up, and either burning them with solar flare, or hitting direct with the sprite(s).. UBK does get big, but with the removal around, it don't last very long...
The only real use I could see with Nitro Unit would be to give them a lava golem, equip it with nitro, and destroy it with UBK..
Another cool combo with Lava Golem is Remove Brainwashing + Emergency Provisions... take control of the Lava Golem after they take the damage, and give it back before you do - great fun.
Precisely.
Yay ^^
Dark-Link
01-14-2006, 09:18 PM
Another cool combo with Lava Golem is Remove Brainwashing + Emergency Provisions... take control of the Lava Golem after they take the damage, and give it back before you do - great fun.
That is a good combo :D
Here's one (can't remember if I said it in the article...)
Give them lava golem, Brain Control /Snatch Steal it, attack with it for 3000, then spiritual fire art it...
I used to get people annoyed, lol I still remember their faces "summon gaia soul, attack your goat, activate spiritual fire art on gaia soul.. gg"
TrueMariksPower
01-14-2006, 09:35 PM
Lava Golem + Physical Double + Spiritual Art + (if you want Brain Control)= 1000 + 3000 + 3000= 7000dmg I baised a deck around the double + the art it was pretty sweet very unexpected and it won me a tournamnet. Great Article
nicholascobalt
01-14-2006, 10:02 PM
Lava Golem + Physical Double + Spiritual Art + (if you want Brain Control)= 1000 + 3000 + 3000= 7000dmg I baised a deck around the double + the art it was pretty sweet very unexpected and it won me a tournamnet. Great Article
Physical Double + Lava Golem + Spiritual Art is the single most inspiring combo I've ever seen... thank you. :')
Lava Golem + Physical Double + Spiritual Art + (if you want Brain Control)= 1000 + 3000 + 3000= 7000dmg I baised a deck around the double + the art it was pretty sweet very unexpected and it won me a tournamnet. Great Article
...BEautiful....
TrueMariksPower
01-14-2006, 10:04 PM
np I made it when I was going through this crazy one mad inspired deck a week thing back in the summer, I used Dora of Faith woth Fusiler + Lava Golem burn, ands well alot of others I can't remember right now. I hope they work for you the way they did me.
-TMP
nicholascobalt
01-14-2006, 10:07 PM
np I made it when I was going through this crazy one mad inspired deck a week thing back in the summer, I used Dora of Faith woth Fusiler + Lava Golem burn, ands well alot of others I can't remember right now. I hope they work for you the way they did me.
-TMP
ZOMG! That... wow, I love you're brain <3
Why can't you live here so I can have duels with outrageously combo based decks vs. each other?
np I made it when I was going through this crazy one mad inspired deck a week thing back in the summer, I used Dora of Faith woth Fusiler + Lava Golem burn, ands well alot of others I can't remember right now. I hope they work for you the way they did me.
-TMP
damn dude.....one of these days, I would like to discuss all sorts of crazy yugioh card comboes with you.
TrueMariksPower
01-14-2006, 10:30 PM
The real mind here is Dark Link i can some us with crazy combos he makes entire decks purely out of types and they are playable. Great job on the article by the way. But I would love to talk to people with crazy combos cuase I love them so much.
-TMP
UserShadow7989
01-14-2006, 10:34 PM
Nice article once again, also, one thing I would change is in the burn version:
-1 Nightmare wheel
+1 Judgement of anubis
JoA protects the back field, provides removal, and is more burn!:D Overall, great article!
nicholascobalt
01-14-2006, 10:58 PM
Nice article once again, also, one thing I would change is in the burn version:
-1 Nightmare wheel
+1 Judgement of anubis
JoA protects the back field, provides removal, and is more burn!:D Overall, great article!
Such great ideas floating around here ^^ Doesn't it feel good to be in such great company Dark Link?
odiumragnarok
01-14-2006, 11:53 PM
Nice article once again, also, one thing I would change is in the burn version:
-1 Nightmare wheel
+1 Judgement of anubis
JoA protects the back field, provides removal, and is more burn!:D Overall, great article!
Agreed. The burn deck needs more protection, like some Fake Trap.
TrueMariksPower
01-15-2006, 07:07 AM
by the way did you or are u ever gonna make DINO stats? Cuase I have a thing for Dinos. in fact I think i will go make a dino decjk now.
Ben Kei
01-15-2006, 07:21 AM
Hey Dark-Link, may I ask why you went 3 Fire Monarch, and no Pheonix, this is just based upon my playstyle but would Pheonix not fit just as nicelt in the final build, maybe add in a couple Flame Rulers?
UserShadow7989
01-15-2006, 09:49 AM
by the way did you or are u ever gonna make DINO stats? Cuase I have a thing for Dinos. in fact I think i will go make a dino decjk now.
He made a dinosaur article a long time ago, just go to the Gallery of articles(or something like that.) link in his sig and you can get to the dinosaur strategies from there.
nobodys99
01-15-2006, 09:54 AM
nice review
i used to run a fire/burn deck
but switched to gravekeeper
Masterbeginner
01-15-2006, 04:33 PM
Nice article. Great Job.:cool:
C9XGMR
01-15-2006, 04:50 PM
In a fire deck, never, never use Gaia Soul, the Combustible Collective. It dies too fast, and it's effect isn't even good. Your chances of Trample is low, unless you hit Spirit Reaper. After, Gaia will just kill itself, and if you used it's effect, their gone too.
You didn't even pinpoint the difference of Flare Burn and Burn. You built a Flare Burn, but you called it a Burn deck. Burn decks use things like Stealth Bird and WMC as a need. Flare Burn doesn't need those.
Fire decks definition = Pyro Beatdown. Basically using Pyro monsters with high attack, normally also helped out by Molten Destruction.
Flare Burn difinition = Fire type monsters under protection, just sitting and inflicting damage.
odiumragnarok
01-15-2006, 05:28 PM
In a fire deck, never, never use Gaia Soul, the Combustible Collective. It dies too fast, and it's effect isn't even good. Your chances of Trample is low, unless you hit Spirit Reaper. After, Gaia will just kill itself, and if you used it's effect, their gone too.
Uh, yeah, after done with Gaia then you use Spirit Art Kurenai for burn damage.
Dark-Link
01-15-2006, 07:23 PM
In a fire deck, never, never use Gaia Soul, the Combustible Collective. It dies too fast, and it's effect isn't even good. Your chances of Trample is low, unless you hit Spirit Reaper. After, Gaia will just kill itself, and if you used it's effect, their gone too.
You didn't even pinpoint the difference of Flare Burn and Burn. You built a Flare Burn, but you called it a Burn deck. Burn decks use things like Stealth Bird and WMC as a need. Flare Burn doesn't need those.
Fire decks definition = Pyro Beatdown. Basically using Pyro monsters with high attack, normally also helped out by Molten Destruction.
Flare Burn difinition = Fire type monsters under protection, just sitting and inflicting damage.
Actually, always use gaia souls, it adds added burn, especially with fire art... heck, if you have a backfire up, you do the damage, and they'll STILL take 500 dmg anyway...
actually, if you read correctly, I called it a "Fire Burner"
and i'm sorry dude, but your definitions are wrong..
Fire decks have burn in them, to the deck, it's just natural.
It's just they have different variants, aggro, burn, self-revival or others thay may or may not have been discovered yet.
To Ben Kei : I used 3 thestalos not for just the hand disruption, but because it's a 1 trib 2400 atk Fire monster... the rest would be like manticore or twin headed fire dragon or something...
Also, I used the Thestalos instead of phoenix because this way it's A) Not as bad a topdeck (since you would have to draw into the phoenix if your deck is pure fire..) and B) more power, and C) Phoenix kind of disrupts what you're doing in the s/t area... if you have a Molten Destruction up and like, a Backfire.. well, phoenix is going to destroy them both..
C9XGMR
01-15-2006, 07:57 PM
Actually, always use gaia souls, it adds added burn, especially with fire art... heck, if you have a backfire up, you do the damage, and they'll STILL take 500 dmg anyway...
actually, if you read correctly, I called it a "Fire Burner"
and i'm sorry dude, but your definitions are wrong..
Fire decks have burn in them, to the deck, it's just natural.
It's just they have different variants, aggro, burn, self-revival or others thay may or may not have been discovered yet.
-But just think if you don't have Fire Arts cause you used it or hit by MST, or Dust. With Fire Art, you just inflict 2000 damage, which is big and fun, but I prefer to protect myself from Snatch or Smashing with it. Gaia's still can be used however, its just pointless once it dies and without everything else you need.
-Its Flare Burn, but if you want to call it what ever you want, you can.
And those definitions, are correct. Just take a look at the two different decks and see how easy the definition is. I did my reasearch, did you?
-Self Revival is your Phoneix Control deck, not really Fire related. The Fire is just Splashed, or you should make a Horus Deck with Fire too.
-Of Course Fire Decks have Burn, but that is a Fire Deck, small round of damage inflicting, that would be the Aggro in it. As it inflicts damage, its even used to attack. That is the Fire Deck type. Thus, Pyro + Beatdown. Can't you see the monsters you are using? They are all Pyro, and altogether, Fire as well. But its just known by the Pyro sphere and rounded to Fire for the name. Why Beatdown? Each of your monsters are just basically high attacking monsters, like Thestalos at 2900 with Molten. Or the combo with a 2000 attacking Solar Flare Dragon plus 500 damage at end. Its like the part of, "Don't play with Fire."
-Another deck Idea is the combo deck with RftDD Deck Abuse Fire monster effects to kill off the fire type monsters and to power up that one guy. Afterwords, you can use Return from the Different Diminsion to gather your Fires.
-Lastly, a deck called, Ring of Destruction. Its a deck used to Sak of Lava Golem with Fire Art. You gather him with Snatch or Brain, and maybe even the use of Soul Exchange, after I look at Ruling. So, the deck uses Lava Golem's Effect for a turn of few, then Kill the Lava Golem. It hurts a lot of ways around.
Dude, Gaia SOul is one of the best fire monsters in the game. In my fire deck, I put him in before I even put in the Solar Flare Dragons, just because he's that badass.
finalmax
01-15-2006, 08:13 PM
-But just think if you don't have Fire Arts cause you used it or hit by MST, or Dust. With Fire Art, you just inflict 2000 damage, which is big and fun, but I prefer to protect myself from Snatch or Smashing with it. Gaia's still can be used however, its just pointless once it dies and without everything else you need.
-Its Flare Burn, but if you want to call it what ever you want, you can.
And those definitions, are correct. Just take a look at the two different decks and see how easy the definition is. I did my reasearch, did you?
-Self Revival is your Phoneix Control deck, not really Fire related. The Fire is just Splashed, or you should make a Horus Deck with Fire too.
-Of Course Fire Decks have Burn, but that is a Fire Deck, small round of damage inflicting, that would be the Aggro in it. As it inflicts damage, its even used to attack. That is the Fire Deck type. Thus, Pyro + Beatdown. Can't you see the monsters you are using? They are all Pyro, and altogether, Fire as well. But its just known by the Pyro sphere and rounded to Fire for the name. Why Beatdown? Each of your monsters are just basically high attacking monsters, like Thestalos at 2900 with Molten. Or the combo with a 2000 attacking Solar Flare Dragon plus 500 damage at end. Its like the part of, "Don't play with Fire."
-Another deck Idea is the combo deck with RftDD Deck Abuse Fire monster effects to kill off the fire type monsters and to power up that one guy. Afterwords, you can use Return from the Different Diminsion to gather your Fires.
-Lastly, a deck called, Ring of Destruction. Its a deck used to Sak of Lava Golem with Fire Art. You gather him with Snatch or Brain, and maybe even the use of Soul Exchange, after I look at Ruling. So, the deck uses Lava Golem's Effect for a turn of few, then Kill the Lava Golem. It hurts a lot of ways around.
Two words: Skill Drain. If you want to make sure Gaia Soul stays around, use Skill Drain. So you won't get the effect of your Solar Flare Dragons that turn. It's just one turn, and you could always make sure it gets nuked before one of the dragons take a hit.
Dark-Link
01-15-2006, 08:15 PM
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-But just think if you don't have Fire Arts cause you used it or hit by MST, or Dust. With Fire Art, you just inflict 2000 damage, which is big and fun, but I prefer to protect myself from Snatch or Smashing with it. Gaia's still can be used however, its just pointless once it dies and without everything else you need.
That's why a smart player won't just use the damn thing without anything to combo it with, it combo's with other stuff, not JUST fire art..
-Its Flare Burn, but if you want to call it what ever you want, you can.
And those definitions, are correct. Just take a look at the two different decks and see how easy the definition is. I did my reasearch, did you?
It's Fire Burner, why? Because it's pure fire, and if you did YOUR research correctly, Stealth Bird ISN'T a Fire is it? EXACTLY...
-Self Revival is your Phoneix Control deck, not really Fire related. The Fire is just Splashed, or you should make a Horus Deck with Fire too.
1) Just because it has the Phoenix in it doesn't mean it automatically becomes a variant of a "Phoenix" deck... 2) "Not really Fire related".. last I checked everysingle monster in that deck has the FIRE attribute...
As for Horus, I do apologize for that one since I simply forgot about it..
-Of Course Fire Decks have Burn, but that is a Fire Deck, small round of damage inflicting, that would be the Aggro in it. As it inflicts damage, its even used to attack. That is the Fire Deck type. Thus, Pyro + Beatdown. Can't you see the monsters you are using? They are all Pyro, and altogether, Fire as well. But its just known by the Pyro sphere and rounded to Fire for the name. Why Beatdown? Each of your monsters are just basically high attacking monsters, like Thestalos at 2900 with Molten. Or the combo with a 2000 attacking Solar Flare Dragon plus 500 damage at end. Its like the part of, "Don't play with Fire."
Ok, so not technically "aggro" it's still a VARIANT of Fire, and I did say that if you noticed correctly... which you obviously didn't... So it's a Fire Beatdown, it's still the variant I found most effective.And any saying can be said about any Fire variant, what's your point?... To tell you the truth, I really don't care what your point is because it doesn't even really do anything but trying to insult my work that I did to try and help those who need it... If you believe any differently, then I tell you this, ... I DID NOT FORCE YOU TO COME HERE AND READ THIS ARTICLE NOW DID I??
-Another deck Idea is the combo deck with RftDD Deck Abuse Fire monster effects to kill off the fire type monsters and to power up that one guy. Afterwords, you can use Return from the Different Diminsion to gather your Fires.
Again, I apologize for that, since it's one that I didn't notice while looking at different possibilities for Fire deck Variants... That deck would speciallize on Inferno, Spirit of Flames and even perhaps Inferno Flame Emperor.. again, I apologize for not noticing it..
-Lastly, a deck called, Ring of Destruction. Its a deck used to Sak of Lava Golem with Fire Art. You gather him with Snatch or Brain, and maybe even the use of Soul Exchange, after I look at Ruling. So, the deck uses Lava Golem's Effect for a turn of few, then Kill the Lava Golem. It hurts a lot of ways around.
*Sigh* if you didn't notice, I already said that....
Link, at this point I would ignore him, as he is obviously oblivious to the workings of fire decks.
Dark-Link
01-15-2006, 08:21 PM
Link, at this point I would ignore him, as he is obviously oblivious to the workings of fire decks.
well, I dunno, I may, but those who do seek advice on the deck and it's different varieties and their strategies, may get confused because of him sayin all this other crap...
C9XGMR
01-15-2006, 10:06 PM
That's why a smart player won't just use the damn thing without anything to combo it with, it combo's with other stuff, not JUST fire art..
Chances to the very end, it will kill you if you don't make them waste it.
So like have Snatch Steal jack your monster to a Saking. You better have a Smashing coming up or in your hand, or a Trap that will not get destroyed. Now, even if they don't do anything like that, but Fire Art is destroyed, now your at, 1/28 thinking its about mid game. 1 being the card of Fire Art, and 28 being everything else in the deck.
Gaia, is basically a suggested idea. To some, its, "I hate" or to others being, "Great Card" and then there's, "I don't care." Now, I'm just pinpointing my IMO, okay. And your doing the same.
Now, what is the Combo it has? Jack the opponent's Fire monster and sak it? Now, how many fire monsters are there in people's decks? Unless you gave them a Lava Golem.
It's Fire Burner, why? Because it's pure fire, and if you did YOUR research correctly, Stealth Bird ISN'T a Fire is it? EXACTLY...
In a Flare Burn, it doesn't use Stealth Bird, its just exactly the samething as you have it. Now I called it a Flare Burn just for a stylish name and because it uses only Fire monsters that Burn.
1) Just because it has the Phoenix in it doesn't mean it automatically becomes a variant of a "Phoenix" deck... 2) "Not really Fire related".. last I checked everysingle monster in that deck has the FIRE attribute...
Your Self Revival deck is a Phoenix deck. Now, I said its a Phoenix with Fire monsters being Splashed, which is now Fire Related. The order I put my sentences is telling that a Phoenix Control type Decks are not Fire. But then you throw in Fire, which becomes Fire Related.
Ok, so not technically "aggro" it's still a VARIANT of Fire, and I did say that if you noticed correctly... which you obviously didn't... So it's a Fire Beatdown, it's still the variant I found most effective.And any saying can be said about any Fire variant, what's your point?...
Yes actually I did. I know the different variant of the deck types. And I showed as well as explained too. Just got to read the other parts too.
To tell you the truth, I really don't care what your point is because it doesn't even really do anything but trying to insult my work that I did to try and help those who need it...
Now, I don't need an insulting, when I did give an insuilting statement. As a Mini-Article writer on the forums, you don't care for other resources? Thats not a good Article writer. Like a writer to a news paper, you need to pinpoint facts, from your thoughts and others. Now, I know your just writing for fun and intrest, and let others read and put their points. If you don't like other's points, then I don't know why you write. It is always good to know others ideas even if it is insuilting you.
If you believe any differently, then I tell you this, ... I DID NOT FORCE YOU TO COME HERE AND READ THIS ARTICLE NOW DID I??
No, no you didn't. But I just posted my points as a Fire deck builder myself, I wanted to put what I thought. Now, I didn't force you to go and bash me? Did I?
That is what I have to say.
I build Fire decks too, so I'm just pointing what I have experienced.
Unlike, LEDGENDARYFLAMELORD (a member at pojo, sorry for the name if wrong), "I don't go off and say I know everything about Fire deck, I can be put down against them". I can be wrong, you can be wrong or we are both wrong. Somewhere, there is a right. Lets just put this aside, and I will let you thank the people that reply.
vampire knight
01-16-2006, 04:47 PM
That is what I have to say.
I build Fire decks too, so I'm just pointing what I have experienced.
Unlike, LEDGENDARYFLAMELORD (a member at pojo, sorry for the name if wrong), "I don't go off and say I know everything about Fire deck, I can be put down against them". I can be wrong, you can be wrong or we are both wrong. Somewhere, there is a right. Lets just put this aside, and I will let you thank the people that reply.Dude, ur wrong its a fire burner.
Dark-Link
01-16-2006, 07:18 PM
That is what I have to say.
I build Fire decks too, so I'm just pointing what I have experienced.
Unlike, LEDGENDARYFLAMELORD (a member at pojo, sorry for the name if wrong), "I don't go off and say I know everything about Fire deck, I can be put down against them". I can be wrong, you can be wrong or we are both wrong. Somewhere, there is a right. Lets just put this aside, and I will let you thank the people that reply.
Firstly, I was just ticked off, and I did feel insulted, but I do appreciat inputs.
Secondly, putting Phoenix in a deck doesn't make it a phoenix deck... that's like saying I'm putting a Giant Orc in a fiend deck and calling it a "Giant Orc" deck... Hell, the Self-Revival deck don't even run the Hand of Nephthys for crying out loud...
Thirdly, I have playtested these strategies myself for alot longer than I usually do for the other articles I have done previous to this one, so I don't mean to sound ****y or anything, but I do know that i'm right on these strategies...
As a side note: I did like the name ya gave my Fire Burner... "Flare Burn" :D
Lastly, I will put this aside, and we can both enjoy the masses of more people using Fire decks from this..
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