Food for thought

[Rai Kerensky]

If you were playing in a game, and your opponent made a mistake that favored you, would you tell him?

This applies to a tournament worth winning.

[5610]

I honestly have no idea...

[golden]

If you were playing in a game, and your opponent made a mistake that favored you, would you tell him?

This applies to a tournament worth winning.

I always tell them about any mistake they make....unless it was a match for a top 8 spot at a SJC.:o

[Tormented Magic]

If he made a mistake to help me out in a tournament I would tell him because I wouldn't cheat , but if you were dueling at home for fun I wouldn't tell that person. Thats how i roll..

[SereneShadows]

I usually tell the truth if I care about the person (like it's a friend or someone I'm trying to help or w/e), but if it's anyone else in an important match, I don't tell them. I've been cheated bad enough as it is.

[topspin1617]

Yes, I would tell them. I don't believe in winning that way.

It's the same when I play tennis. If my opponent calls the wrong score in my favor, I correct them. I would feel bad if I didn't like I was cheating them.

[SOUL_LESS]

It depends how big the mistake was.

[Master_Kakashi]

Absolutely not. I don't know why they did that and it's rude to ask. =\

[Akurei Ryu]

Thank god Kakashi said it before I did. I didn't want to be alone. :p

If I'm in a tournament and someone makes a mistake in my favor, I keep my mouth shut.

[golden]

Absolutely not. I don't know why they did that and it's rude to ask. =\

lol:D

I like your style.:D

[Souljer]

No, not for a tournament worth winning or if I'm playing for valuable cards. If he/she doesn't know the rulings and game mechanics, that's to bad for that person.

[Injured_Status]

If you were playing in a game, and your opponent made a mistake that favored you, would you tell him?

This applies to a tournament worth winning.
Well, if there was any people around like a judge, no. If no one else was watching, besides my friend, perhaps, then I would tell them...I just wouldn't let them take it back. Especially if they're not that good, so I can help them get a little more strategic with their decks. I wouldn't say the term "n00bs" because to me, a n00b is someone that thinks he/she is really good, but is far from it. If someone is not good, and that person knows it, he/she is not a n00b.

[TurboniumNY]

i would only do it if they weren't arrogant. if they r playing cool and fair until the mess up then i would correct them

[MercenaryOfDoom]

Depends if it were a friend probaly yes if it were a guy I hated than no. Than I would laugh in his face.

[OogaBooga]

If the play violated the rules, I'd mention it.

If it was just an error in judgment on their part, I'd keep my mouth shut. We're all human, and we all make mistakes. I wouldn't expect my opponent to tell me if I messed up either.

[Masterbeginner]

If it was a friend i'd tell him ,but in an important tournament match or duel against a "rival" then no.

[drizzztdourden]

if im playing at a regs or a jump... hell no, its their fault =/, and you should go for any edge you can w/o cheating (which this imo isnt)

[SuperJay]

If your opponant does something wrong in your favor, you should be the better man and mention it, because the other player may realize it later and then kick themselves, it's a horrible feeling. We've all been there and it's not fun realising something too late.

I am more concerned about players cheating and using illegal moves in THEIR favor and not bothering to look up erratas and rulings on their own cards, even worse when they KNOW what they're doing is illegal and do it anyway.

At local small non-UDE tourney:

One Older player (like 40ish? has sons there) repeatedly cheats with Peten The Dark Clown.
I was burned when I first played him months ago, when he special summoned another Peten after a Cyber Jar killed one on the field. Since then I've made a point to mention it to him and even printed out the UDE rulings, and yet he STILL burns other inexperienced players with it.
Today, he was playing with another player and I was watching.
Older player used Peten as a tribute for a tribute summon for Jinzo and proceeded to bring another Peten to the field despite losing the timing. I mentioned it to them, they didn't seem to care. The opponant lost in the following turn when the older player summoned Hand of Nephytis(sp?) and SS Pheonix with the illegal Peten.

When I played the older player, Peten was never even put onto the field, so he obviously knows I'm watching him. He got very angry when I snatch stole his Pheonix and used Tsukuyomi to keep it, asked how it was possible, what were the mechanics..*ugh* yeah.. he was probably doing it for revenge for ruining his Peten wall :P


Other fun burns by other players ignoring card rulings or being ignorant of their own cards and taking advantage...

When EEN came out, Goldd destroying my swords and f/d trap despite being discarded by my opponant's Morphing Jar on my opponant's side of the field after I attacked it, didn't realize it until later.

Command Knight, Breaker and Marauding being SS by Cyber Jar during main phase and bottomlessing them... to only have Breaker RFGed and realise later it should have done so to the 2 others.

A player Barrel Behind the Door-ing my Wave Motion Cannon(7000) for game.

Another Player with a Fairy King Truesdale face up and failed to realise the card text was changed to not include himself, so I didn't attack it with my DM and he attacked it next turn and proceeded to go on for game.

So yeah, If more people looked up the rulings on their own cards and were more honest about any erratas or rulings, be it in either player's favor, then this game would be more enjoyable. I dread coming home after and looking up "cool" cards I saw and realise what the opp. did was illegal and cost me several games.

Is it your responsibility to know EVERY card in the game, or is it your responsibility to know YOUR deck and being honest about it?

-SuperJay

[dagosta]

if im playing at a regs or a jump... hell no, its their fault =/, and you should go for any edge you can w/o cheating (which this imo isnt)

Actualy it is cheating:

UDE Official Tournament Policy - Section 6 Player Responsibilities
"UDE players have the following responsibilities, whether they are currently involved in a tournament or not:

Notify an opponent if he or she fails to follow any game rules or incorrectly
tracks game score or life totals during a match, regardless of whom the error
benefits."

http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/op/policy/files/en/UDEOfficialTournamentPolicy01nov2005_en.pdf

If your a spectator you may NOT interrupt the duel, but it is your responsibility to immediately notify a judge of the possible error.

[BeeLegendary]

I would if it was round 1, but if i was in the final at top 8 in SJC. I would say nothing.

[golden]

I would if it was round 1, but if i was in the final at top 8 in SJC. I would say nothing.

At the finals some1 would notice and screw u so u need to do it in like round 6. XD

[Aeto]

*Warning, very bad sounding post to follow*

Nope...we have a creed at my card store for anybody who watches duels being played out: "If the player doesn't notice the mistake in duel, then we have no right to correct them"

I use that in my duels also. You might say, "Oh, you terrible, terrible person you!" Oh, get real. If my opponent doesn't notice the mistake, then he doesn't know his cards too well. He/She needs to go back and review the cards in his/her and deck and learn to use them.

Yeah, sounds harsh, but, oh well, that's the way I play. No mercy.

[ajp123]

Friend: Yes
Random/Enemy/Person I don't Like: Probably Not

Capiche?

~AJP.

[NiGhT WiNG]

unless they did something that would get us both a game loss (e.g. Forgetting about phoenix or v lord) i wouldn't say anything

[BlackFireDragon]

99.999% I'll tell them unless they have been acting like a huge *****. Then they can fend for themselves

[blueD]

eh, I remebr my T8 match. I declare I play smashing ground, instead I dump a SCAPEGOAT =/

But yeh IT REALLY ALL DEPEND. If it local, i dont kare really...i mean i wont side in a local unless it a OTK. I hate otk =/

[fusion duelist]

I correct my opponets when they make mistakes.

[mightymage]

If my opponent did something that would cause them to automatically lose (forgetting to ss a V-Lord for example), I generally make sure to keep an eye open for stuff like that, and correct my opponent before it becomes a problem.

If they have a Brain Fart and do something they didn't mean to, like play a card other than the one they wanted to play (but is still legal to play at that time), then I say play on, especially in a tourni with something on the line.

[The Controller]

if it was for fun no but if it was in a tournament of some sort yes because i dont want to win by unsportsman like dueling. i hate to cheat never donr it in my life exept by mistake wheni thought my opponet said go but he was saying words to a song i guess

[Ki113r_LT]

il tell him.But in my local tourament with a great prize then... NO

[Despair]

Yes I would, I don't care about a prize.

[Kameiko]

If you were playing in a game, and your opponent made a mistake that favored you, would you tell him?

This applies to a tournament worth winning.

Yes I would.

Reason:

Im a head judge at my local tourney on Saturday and on Firdays I play and if my opponent makes a mistake that favors me I will tell them, so they dont make the same mistake twice, and cost them the duel.

Sure its their fault for messing up, but as the duty of a player you should help your opponent by pointing out his mistakes at the end of the match so they wont make the same misplays.

[Mac_the_Great]

Define mistake. If you mean, say, not returning Phoenix when I destroyed it with Smashing Ground, then no. Its not my fault they forgot.

If you mean, say, forgetting to draw, then yes I would. There is no point in breaking the rules of the game and possibly getting both of us a Warning.

[Roland]

I have a house rule when it comes to games. If you let go of your peice that you have played then you may not take it back.

Chess
Checkers
Poker
Any card game
etc

If your still holding on to your piece your still in the middle of decisions and thought. Once you've let go you've made your decision and the piece is 100% been played.

If the oppenant is about to set a card and they still have there fingers onit and they realise they have made a mistake then I allow them to take it back as it technically hasn't hit the field fully yet. Although if it has and then they know they make a mistake then I can't allow it, that goes for both oppenants.

You can only help someone when they ask for help. If that person realises what they've done wrong then yes give them a tip or notify that you noticed it to!

However if it's a child and they do something silly and say summon a blue eyes without tribute then yes your going to have to tell them, thats for the better good on there play.

[rot_blade]

Yes I would unless it was a super big match like for a top 4 place at the reginals.

[Andy]

99.999% I'll tell them unless they have been acting like a huge *****. Then they can fend for themselves

I agree


(filler)

[finalfantasyfreak]

I would... Unless it's at a SJC or Regionals. Because I wanna win there.

[Whiscash]

i would tell them

[IN GOD WE TRUST]

I would tell the person in a heart beat just to meake them fell bad and capitilize on it for the win.

[Mage Master]

It would depend on how big the mistake was but I would probably tell them.

[vdraconis]

What kind of mistake?

I'm not giving advice to my opponent. If they make a rulings error or it breaks the rules of the game, then yes.

[FURIA328]

If it was an honest mistake then sure I might tell them otherwise I don't feel I am obligated in any way to help my opponent out if he/she were to make a mistake. I know that might sound mean but hey you do learn from your mistkes.

[Shadowhawk11]

Depends who I'm playing and the calibur of the match... If it's a very importent match(SJC, Regional) then I might not tell them, if it's just a local, I correct them usualy.

[TheDarkPrez]

No you dont tell Him/Her if they cant see the Mistake then they should learn to watch better and think of there move.

[Shadowhunter]

Yes, or else I wouldn't really have the feeling that I won, since if they had thought more they wouldn't have made that...move...or something

[Cloud19]

If the play violated the rules, I'd mention it.

If it was just an error in judgment on their part, I'd keep my mouth shut. We're all human, and we all make mistakes. I wouldn't expect my opponent to tell me if I messed up either.

Same here. If they broke the actual rules, then they should be corrected, but if they just do something stupid, thats their fault. Heck, if the they broke the rules, and its serious enough, I'd call a judge. (Only in the T8 of a SJC or Nats or something) :D

[The_Gravekeeper]

No way in hell. If it's a tourny worth winning, I'll let them make as many mistakes as they want as long as it benefits me

[Souljer]

Yes, or else I wouldn't really have the feeling that I won, since if they had thought more they wouldn't have made that...move...or something
That's where experience comes in. If you see a person who's worse than others you've met, are you going to correct all the mistakes you see him make because it's not what more experienced players would do?

A tournament is about who is the best. The level of experience is a part of deciding who is the better. If he does not know the rules or he does not know different strategies to turn the duel in his favor, or to finish you off, he deserves to lose as he is the worse player.

[topspin1617]

Well, hold on a minute.

Are we talking about a foolish play, or something that actually breaks the rules and benefits me?

If it is just a stupid move on their part, I'm not gonna tell them to take it back or whatever.

But if it broke the rules, then I would say something.

[dd_assasin1]

i would b/c its good karma:D :)

[Gnarfard]

Winning is always fun, but sometimes there are a lot of fun things to do that cause you to lose more often than winning.

If it's a casual duel of course i'll notify the guy, but if I'm playing for high stakes then it's NO MERCY!

[Snap006]

In a tournament no. He should know better if it's a tournament. Anytime else yes. It's good sportsmanship and helps out people to better their dueling skills.

[Perfection]

It depends on the situation. If it's a mistake that we could both get a game loss for not noticing, I would tell him. If I knew him, I would tell him.

[Euphoria]

Hell no.

If they made the mistake, I deserve the win.

[Personofsecrets]

Depends. I usually do. If the person comes off as a jerk and I notice something I just let them role with it.

[Anthem91]

nah i always hold it off till the end and let them know after the battle

once this guy summoned caius and i had 700 LP left, all he had to do was blow caius up, instead he removes my face up G-Mole and i have a raiza face up on my field. Next turn i summon dd warrior lady and Shrink caius to 12oo for game. then afterwards i told him, and he is like "oh im a retard.."

[golden]

Winning is always fun, but sometimes there are a lot of fun things to do that cause you to lose more often than winning.

If it's a casual duel of course i'll notify the guy, but if I'm playing for high stakes then it's NO MERCY!
Why the hell did you bump this from months ago?

[JDGloom]

I'm going to lock this because "mistake" is so ill-defined in the first post, and everyone's talking about different stuff. Is the mistake...

-A bad in-game decision?
-A gameplay error, like a life point error or forgetting to draw for an effect?

These are two very different things. Please feel welcome to create a new thread like this one that is more clearly defined.

-Jason