Dandelion: Broken!! The new & improve scapegoat

[now2ai8]

VJC-JP013
Dandylion
Earth/Plant/3/300/300
Effect: When this card is send to Graveyard, special summon 2 "Fluff Token" (Wind/Plant/1/0/0) in defense mode onto your field. During the turn the tokens are special summon, they cannot be sacrifice for sacrifice summon.

holy crap: It's like scapegoat on crack!! Wow, dandelion is an amazing card. There are sooooo many ways to abuse it.

1. Let's see, you can actually play creature swap now. It's immune to drillroid, mystic swordsman lv2, dark hole, exiled force, etc. Those are very popular cards now. Man, think about the advantage this card can give.

2. You can use it to protect your life points. Not the best of the use of it but pretty darn good. It slows downs aggros to a halt. Thus, eliminating their advantage.

3. being lv 1 (the tokens), you can use METAMORPHOSIS to bring out the good old TER, ouch...

4. Since the requirement is just the card being sent to the grave yard, you can abuse this card with card destruction, cyber jar, morphing jar, reload, etc.

5. Being a token, you can use it as tribute for varies effect like cannon soldier

6. Unlike a regular token, you can use it to TRIBUTE SUMMON!!! This is were it gets mad advantage. SOUL CONTROL'S newest buddy!!!

7. Since the requirement is just it being sent to the graveyard from HAND, field, or DECK, you can use it as a discard cost AND get to special summon the tokens (works great with phoenix wing blast, raigeki break, light vortex, etc.)

8. A great counter to hand control (your opponent attacks with don, spirit reaper, thestalos, etc, you'll get 2 tokens on the field instead of losing the card for nothing)

9. Being an earth, it has great synergy with giant rat

10. Combos with magical merchant; thus, making it excellent in a FFC/Pot of Avarice abuse deck.
Magical Merchant wording:
FLIP: Pick up cards from the top of your Deck until a Spell Card or Trap Card is picked up. Add that card to your hand. SEND the remaining cards to the Graveyard.
Think about it. They attack your magical merchant, you send the monster to the graveyard, the effect activates, you get 2 free tokens + the magic/trap card from magical merchant. That's advantage.

11. want a great way to force atleast a 2 for 1 with torrential? Just summon dandelion and activate torrential. This way, you'll clear the field of those monsters and have 2 free tokens. Next turn, you can use those tokens to tribute for a monarch for more advantage.


WOW, this card is super broken. To top it off, I can actually see a potential OTK/FTK combo with this card via cannon soldier or the likes. I'm not sure of the exact cards but I know someone will come up with it.

Bottomline: I can actually see this one being restricted very fast. If not, expect this card to be abused like crazy.


The big question is: IF OR WHEN THIS CARD IS RELEASE OUTSIDE OF JAPAN??

[Flames of a Phoenix]

1. It's not broken.
2. It's not as good as "Scapegoat".

[now2ai8]

1. It's not broken.
2. It's not as good as "Scapegoat".

It's better than scapegoat... It's way more versatile. Tell me, can scapegoat's effect activate if it's being used as a discard cost? Can it be used to TRIBUTE SUMMON? You see, the biggest reason this card is so good is being able to activate to the effect when it's sent to the graveyard. That alone, makes this card powerful. In a deck that abuses this card, it can do very well.

[TheDarkVampire]

not broken

and i still find goats to be better and sexier

[Flames of a Phoenix]

Scapegoats have an easier activation requirement. It's quickplay, being nearly the most versatile card out there. You also get four blockers instead of two.

Dandelion itself can be used as a Tribute for a Tribute Summon, but how long will it stay on the field without protection? Not enough to be useful.

So, you've got four blockers compared to one blocker that can be Tribute Summoned or 2 blockers.

So, yeah, Scapegoat > Dandelion

[ijigen_no_senshi]

It's definitely powerful. I think the ruling for it is the same as "Ojamagic". It can give you 2 defense monsters to either defend your life points or to offer them as a tribute summon later.

Scapegoat gives you twice as many tokens, but they can't be sacrificed to summon. But tribute summoning is kind of lost its edge (except for the Monarchs and in Soul Control). It's all about getting Cyber Dragons and lots of smaller monsters on the field, then taking out your opponent's defenses with Smashing Ground/MS LV2/Drillroid/whatever.

But like Scapegoat, once it becomes CC we can kvetch about how broken it is. :)

[the_rabbit]

This card...Kinda broken. Its like, well, an extra Scapegoat. It's really quite comparable to Scapegoat, except they have some key differences. First being, well one is a Spell and the other is a Monster.

Scapegoat:
Pros:
Quickplay,
Spell,
441

Cons:
Can't summon,
Can't tribute summon with

Dandelion:
Pros:
Tribute summon,
Discardable

Cons:
241,
Needs to be sent to grave

Bam, thats the easiest way to compare them, they both seem pretty even to me....Either way, great for Soul Control obv, also good for maybe Burn or token abuse (that's an archetype?) Yellow Spring Frog is better than this, but w/e, tokens are fun.

Rabbit

[Rakath]

The only thing that it trumps Scapegoat with is versitility. To this the nay sayers would go 'What trickery is this, Scapegoats is a quickplay Magic card, nothing is better'. However only two cards come to mind to negate it outright (End of Anubis, Divine Wrath), and one collection of effects would do it if you summon it to the field (Hades negation).

However, look at it this way. If you're facing a Deckout deck, and this is sent to the graveyard via Needle Worm, you get two defenders. If you face a control/hand destruction deck, and this is discarded by Don Zaloog, you get two defenders. If they try to run this over with beatsticks, you get two defenders. You don't need to worry about your field having two monsters for you to get summons, you won't get hurt for activating it before they activate Cyber Jar (as you would with Scapegoats).

I just want to see this make Arcane Archer of the Forest techable as a neat 3 m/t kill combo...

[Pottski]

VJC-JP013
Dandylion
Earth/Plant/3/300/300
Effect: When this card is send to Graveyard, special summon 2 "Fluff Token" (Wind/Plant/1/0/0) in defense mode onto your field. During the turn the tokens are special summon, they cannot be sacrifice for sacrifice summon.

7. Since the requirement is just it being sent to the graveyard from HAND or field, you can use it as a discard cost AND get to special summon the tokens (works great with phoenix wing blast, raigeki break, light vortex, etc.)



Can you even read? All it has to do is be sent to the graveyard. So hand, field OR deck.

[now2ai8]

Can you even read? All it has to do is be sent to the graveyard. So hand, field OR deck.

I know.. read #10. I just forgot to type it in. I'll edit it. Thanks for the mistake.

[TonberryDoink]

Set raigeki break (or any chainable trap that requires a discard)
Opponents endphase - activate RB, discard dandelion, kill something.
Royal decree? It wont negate a discard cost, so who cares?
Two tribute fodders on the field, w00t.
Draw, summon big monster.

That seems a little broken to me. It will probably get limited.
Also, is the translation accurate? Does that combo work in Japan?

[Rakath]

Translation is accurate, now THIS is a staple!

[Xaylen]

Yeah we just got a new CC card!

Lol,J/k I dont really think this is CC but meh....We'll see at that time...

[X]

[Blake`]

i would so run 3 in a dark world deck and run 3 dark deal :D they make enemy controller usefull again too.play dark world lightning on their fd monster discard dandelion thingy to get to tokens, activate enemy controller sak a token to take their face up monster and sak it for mobius. yay fun. i hope we get it in english.


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[Radical Dreamer]

DAMN YOU!
Making me fall in love with a ***-only card is evil! ;)

I read a false translation that made me think this would work only from field to grave, but with it's real effect it has so much potential.
This is horn of heaven's new best friend and useful in many control decks!
Or use magical hats tutoring this.

But even though it's a great card, it's not broken with morph restricted to one.
If morph would be semi-limited, I'd semi this too.

[Jemery]

its going to be a promo i think. its broken imo it just needs to hit the graveits to buff. Id use 3 in any deck that uses a discard card YES EVEN IF THERES ONBLY ONE its good its great!

"look a dandelion"
"must be the last one of the season"

"WTF theres 2 more?!?!!?"


<3 ice age.

[ZGMF-X09A]

I'd say Cannon Soldier burn has found more friends...

[Roland]

I think even stray lambs beats this card! All I see Dandilion for is for Plant support!

[Napoleon II]

it may be useful, but I don't see room for it in any of my decks, it'll be abused and someone will come up with the magic combo, etc..I'm too tired now to do that

[Daniel]

More importantly, this card allows you to summon in addition to the special summons of the tokens, unlike Goat.
It's not just protection, it's field advantage. And Cyber Dragon proves that's important.

It's plant support (a type that NEEDS support), it's tribute support (Koitsu, ftw :D ), it's token support (yes, one more card closer to a token based deck theme).

It won't be as popular as scapegoat, as it takes up precious monster space. However, it's good for those who want to feel creative, which is something i LOVE. Nice find.

[Mage Master]

This card looks interesting, but I doubt I'll use it in any of my decks.

[darkphoenix88]

Meh good but scapegoat better.

[Wildfire]

Wow, this card is gooooood. I actually like this better then goats because this is way more versatile AND it won't clog up your field like goats will sometimes.

This could bring back Cannon Soldier Burn decks.

[Kabla]

Scapegoats give you more tokens to play with but the 2 you get from Dandylion are way better. The ability to tribute the tokens can help those decks out there with way too many tributes. An awesome card with little drawbacks that can be overcome.

[SuperJay]

For those of you counting advantage, please stop.
Dandylion's advantage comes from HOW you play it. He has mutliple card advantage numbers.


Dandylion as a defender:

Scapegoats, make 4 sheep tokens and you lose the spell itself and you can't summon anything else that turn.
so 1 card for 4 tokens

If you set Dandylion, he's counting as a monster and when he's destroyed makes 2 tokens, but he himself counts as 1 defender.
so 1 card for 3 defenders not 2 in this scenario.

If you play him on the field, he's couting as 3 defenders that are tributable while scapegoat is 4 non-tributable defenders.


Dandylion as a discard:

He makes discard cost cards playable again and even gains you greater immediate advantage then what Sinister Serpent could ever do. (in long term advantage Sinister was better)

Pheonix wing wind blast and other 2 for 1s now become 2 for 3's
Lightning vortex's advantage becomes impressive now, with 2 for 3 plus the additional monsters destroyed above 1.

He works well in DarkWorld related decks and laughs at Don and Reaper.


Dandylion from deck:

He makes needleworm and other millers sad.


Dandylion as tribute food:

Tribute Dandylion for Mobius and you're sitting on a 2 for 4.
He makes 1 tribute monsters very much playable again, possibly 2 tribute monsters, but there are good chances one could be killed before you can tribute both.

Spellcasters with dimension magic LOVE Dandylion.
Cannon Soldier LOVES Dandylion

In the long run, Dandylion is much more versatile then Scapegoat, he's searchable, revivable and isn't limited.
-SuperJay

[Rakath]

In the long run, Dandylion is much more versatile then Scapegoat, he's searchable, revivable and isn't limited.
-SuperJay

I believe you're missing a word... yet, not limited yet.

[Flames of a Phoenix]

I believe you're missing a word... yet, not limited yet.I highly doubt he'll be limited. And if he does, it probably will only be semi-limited.

[Daniel]

Well said SuperJay. Well said.

[mr hutton]

i can see some serious tech done with dandelion expesial with those teckniacly not a tribute summon things eg toon monster or ritual monsters

[finalfantasyfreak]

dandelion is good, and i cant wait for it to come out in English, but its FAR from broken.

[dd_assasin1]

uhhhhhhhhhhh i dont see how this card is uneffected by drillroid and mystic swordsman lvl 2. its same thing as scapegoat basically, so if drillroid attacks scapegoat it dies, and if it attacks this flower thing then first card dies and 2 comes on. fact of the matter is, its not uneffected by drillroid and mystic if ur comparing to scapegoat, but it is uneffected if u mean f/d def monsters.

[Winged Kuriboh Lv.2]

I believe you're missing a word... yet, not limited yet.
do i or do i not sig that, hmmm....
on topic: as versatile as this card is, it is not broken, and scapegoat is still better, though this card will most likely be used in many decks. :D

[Senju]

Did you know you can make wine and salad out of Dandilions?! :D

Anyway.. Dandilion is a good card. if you set it this turn, then you will have 2 monsters next turn if it is destroyed in battle . You might find Nimble Momonga or Bubonic Vermin more helpful though because those cards thin your deck out as well, and have better stats.

[StarScream]

so what happens if its noblemaned? its still destroyed, but it doesnt hit the graveyard? or what if someone plays tempest while its in your deck? If anything, i say that its about even with goats, maybe weaker, but not better.

[QuoteMe]

Do we finally have a flower with some power?

I really like this card. So this means you can Painful Choice
and end up with tokens. Tokens which can be tributed for
kickbutt monster.

Some of the worst cards in the game at least seem better
with this card. Then again it's not going to make you use
Share the Pain anytime soon, right?

What's the trap card which stops them from being able to
summon during the turn by discarding card during Standby
Phase? So you can prevent them from having monsters for
a couple turns which should be enough time...

[Fiend Master]

I thought it had to be destroyed in Battle for it to get it's effect, that is what it was on the Anime, check Janime.net

[Rakath]

Anime effect isn't the real effect. Real effect is better.

Non Aggression Area is a good tech with this.

I'd also say this will be limited right quick, since it is one of the better discard baits in the game (better than Magic Blast, as good as Night Assailant, worse than Serpent). And they HATE for discards to not hurt.

[mikej]

This card seems interesting but I'am a little confused when and where are we getting there card ?

[xxbyexx]

not broken and not even that good but i do think i will play one just cuz i like the fact there called fluff tokens

[NLFW]

This card seems interesting but I'am a little confused when and where are we getting there card ?
never & nowhere...

[L96 Psychopath]

OMG that is awesome

i love the way you put that....a scapegoat on crack. that is great.

[KogyochiBJ]

Um...just budding in, but are 2 0/0 tokens really that important? I mean, your opponent can just summon sangan and another monster and take them out in 1 turn... being tributable isn't really that fantastic.

[Leon-D]

I think its totally uber sliding off of merchant. And we need discard support. This will definitely see use. Possibly a new reemergence of last formats Goat control. Splicing this with FFC. Add metamorphosis and you've got a good CC.

[now2ai8]

Um...just budding in, but are 2 0/0 tokens really that important? I mean, your opponent can just summon sangan and another monster and take them out in 1 turn... being tributable isn't really that fantastic.

You're right. They're just tokens. Like sinister serpent (I'm not saying dandelion is as good as SS), it's not a good card by itself. However, combo it with other cards and you'll start seeing the advantage it gives you. Like scapegoat, it sucks being just a attack blocker. Combo it with cannon soldier, metamorphosis, creature swap, monster gate, etc., you'll start to see why it's powerful.

Cards like book of moon and scapegoat weren't impressive on face value. It's what you do with the card. The key to those cards is the verstalility they have. Dandelion has that great versatility. It's rare to see a card with such versatility. In fact, this card has so much potential, it can be used in many decks than . It may not be as game ending as Black Luster Soldier. However, it still has a lot of good things going for it.

[BlackJack]

People are forgetting about the Timing issue associated with Dandelion. It's kind of like Peten the Dark Clown in concern with the effect triggering.

It's not 'that' great if you have a strong understanding of this game but will see play.

[Rakath]

People are forgetting about the Timing issue associated with Dandelion. It's kind of like Peten the Dark Clown in concern with the effect triggering.

It's not 'that' great if you have a strong understanding of this game but will see play.

Um... Dandylion is NOT optional, so similar to Critter or Black Forest Witch it can't miss the timing unless the effect cannot activate (Four monsters exist on the field).

[TonberryDoink]

I'd also say this will be limited right quick, since it is one of the better discard baits in the game (better than Magic Blast, as good as Night Assailant, worse than Serpent). And they HATE for discards to not hurt.

Agreed. With sinister banned and assailant limited, free discards are at a premium. This is better than a single free discard, as you get 2x tribute fodder/ meat shield for one discard.
My guess is it will be limited to one, and we might see it over here sometime after marshmallon appears. :(

[Pseudocreobroter]

This thing is sick when combo'd correctly...
I would kill to have an english version of it!
BTW whoever said about arcane archer, good idea! Ive been dying to abuse that for a while and the person who said about non aggression area... well that just makes last turn sick!
I dont suppose we will be getting it for several years though... I mean we did only just get the all powerful BEUD ;)

[kycootheghostdestroy]

Imagine deck like this
Monsters 20
1 Tsukuyomi
1 Mobius
1 Zaborg/Airknight Parshat
1 DMOC
3 DDA
1 DDWL
2 Cyber Dragon
1 Exiled Force
1 Morphing Jar
1 Cyber Jar
1 Yomi Frog
2 Dandylion
1 Breaker
1 Magician of Faith
1 Don Zaloog
1 Chaos Sorcerer
Spells 12
1 Metamorphosis
2 Smashing Ground
1 Book of Moon
1 Scaepgoat
1 Nobleman of Crossout
1 MST
1 Snatch Seal
1 Dark Hole
1 Premature Burial
1 Heavy Storm
1 Enemy Controller/Brain Control
Traps 8
1 Widspread Ruin
3 Sakuretsu Armor
2 Dust Tornado
1 Call of the Haunted
1 Torrential
Fusion Deck
3 Ryu Senshi
3 Cyber Twin Drago
3 Balter
1 TER
2 Darkfire Dragon
2 Charubin
1 King Dragun
1 The Last Warrior
1 Cyber End
1 Gatling Dragon
(no more fusions as there is this stupid card that deals damage x200 for evry card in fusion deck)

[Skater_Strike]

not broken

and i still find goats to be better and sexier


I agree, goats are sexier. *Stares at his sexy blue goat token* @_@

[yuber]

never

Quoted for emphasis. This is the answer to the question: "When will this card be released in the TCG?"

[SuperJay]

Quoted for emphasis. This is the answer to the question: "When will this card be released in the TCG?"


We'll have to wait and see,

Rights issues aside, if Judai uses Dandylion on a regular basis in the 2nd season of GX, UDE would probably push to get it released in TCG in the fall to coincide with season 2 of GX, simply because of the children wanting it "Oh won't someone please think of the children!"

Since it's a V-jump card(?) isn't there a chance of it being a SJ promo or a sneak peak promo?

-SuperJay

[PMasterS]

We'll have to wait and see,

Rights issues aside, if Judai uses Dandylion on a regular basis in the 2nd season of GX, UDE would probably push to get it released in TCG in the fall to coincide with season 2 of GX, simply because of the children wanting it "Oh won't someone please think of the children!"

Since it's a V-jump card(?) isn't there a chance of it being a SJ promo or a sneak peak promo?

-SuperJay


If Judai uses it, then isn't there the chance it could get released in a character deck?

I mean that's how scapegoat got released and people seem to love that comparison.

[Xancalidon]

1. It's not broken.
2. It's not as good as "Scapegoat".

Shut up. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Say something constructive, not something stupid.

[PMasterS]

Shut up. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Say something constructive, not something stupid.


It's not broken, we could break it, but its not broken.

Scapegoat was better for what it did.

Your post isn't constructive, his was, at least he gave an opinion.

Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean that they don't know what they're talking about.

[Exiled]

Comparing Dandelion to Scapegoat is like comparing Dekoichi to Jar of Greed. Dandelion is more abusable than goats now and has more combo potential

I will sidedeck 1 tho

[SuperJay]

If Judai uses it, then isn't there the chance it could get released in a character deck?

I mean that's how scapegoat got released and people seem to love that comparison.


Judai has already used Dandylion the episode introducing e-hero Neos, now to see if he keeps using it in his next battle with Ed Pheonix.

For all we know, it could be in the GX starter decks coming in March(?)

-SuperJay

[PMasterS]

Comparing Dandelion to Scapegoat is like comparing Dekoichi to Jar of Greed. Dandelion is more abusable than goats now and has more combo potential

I will sidedeck 1 tho

Its more like comparing Dark mimc Lv3 to jar of greed

Judai has already used Dandylion the episode introducing e-hero Neos, now to see if he keeps using it in his next battle with Ed Pheonix.

For all we know, it could be in the GX starter decks coming in March(?)

-SuperJay

Exactly my point, its possible.

[Exiled]

Its more like comparing Dark mimc Lv3 to jar of greed

Well im trying to use the "one is better than the other" scenerio. So I thought Dekoichi could fill that slot

[lordjar]

I built a deck for when this card comes out... you can find it in my Sig under the name "Dandelion", which revolves around the usage of it... Veterans only though, sorry.

Dandelion is better than scapegoat, because it hasn't been restricted yet... to my knowledge

[Shaheed]

dandelion may help to eliminate the costs of some discard costs. discard dandelion for lightning vortex get 2 tokens good stuff but it seems situational still.

[Krausser]

is it even out yet?

[thucom]

I want it already, it's almost like 3 petens in one card but better(as long as the wording was correct and it wasn't a "may" effect where it can miss the timing)
I just thought about the brokeness of traditional with this in it, 2 of these, a peten, sinister serpent, Skull mark ladybug with painful choice
choose the peten, get 4 fluff tokens and a 1000 life points and ss on your next standby phase
choose a dandy, get 2 fluff tokens, a peten, 1000 life points and ss on your next standby phase
choose the serpent, get 4 fluff tokens, a peten, and 1000 life points
choose the ladybug, get 4 fluff tokens, a peten, and ss on your next standby phase

[shiro tokuda]

they only made this card becuase e-hero neo is a 7 star monster, but yeah i would use it

[Shiryuu]

the wording is correct is is a mandatory effect so it is impossible to miss the timimg off our little flowered freind

not broken just a nice card

[Dragon Warrior]

prepares to see 2 dandelyon teched into cc decks

wait you mean a little flower will be teched

okay um yes this card is pretty good

also yeah making soul control even more powerful. Wow maybe now soul control will be more cc

[SuperJay]

not broken just a nice card

Quoted for emphasis.

Dandelion's like a cute toned down Sinister Serpent and Scapegoat combined into one swiss army knife of a card.

Lets all hope TCG gets him in 2006 rather then 2008-2009

-SuperJay

[yuber]

Quoted for emphasis.

Dandelion's like a cute toned down Sinister Serpent and Scapegoat combined into one swiss army knife of a card.

Lets all hope TCG gets him in 2006 rather then 2008-2009

-SuperJay

Quoted for emphasis.
You can hope all you want but we've just started getting promos that were released in 2001 in Japan.
And Shueisha still hates us.

[psionic psycho]

i would play it just because i could putfluff tokens on the field lol but i dont think its all that playable

[Shiryuu]

hehe its playable just because they are called "fluff tokens"

lol sheep tokens are cute but not as adorable as Fluff tokens awwwwww (melts)

[nicholascobalt]

This card...Kinda broken. Its like, well, an extra Scapegoat. It's really quite comparable to Scapegoat, except they have some key differences. First being, well one is a Spell and the other is a Monster.

Scapegoat:
Pros:
Quickplay,
Spell,
441

Cons:
Can't summon,
Can't tribute summon with

Dandelion:
Pros:
Tribute summon,
Discardable

Cons:
241,
Needs to be sent to grave

Bam, thats the easiest way to compare them, they both seem pretty even to me....Either way, great for Soul Control obv, also good for maybe Burn or token abuse (that's an archetype?) Yellow Spring Frog is better than this, but w/e, tokens are fun.

Rabbit
Okay - I have a big problem with this, since when is a 2:1 a bad thing? That's almost as advantageous as a 1:0 and almost as control as a 3:2...

The card is decent, if it's unrestricted it will be better than scapegoat, at 2 as good as 1, and at 1 worse - depending of course on the deck, this would be godly in a morph deck, stall decks, any deck with more than 3 Tribute Monsters or any deck that plays a 2 Tribute Monster, decent in Dark World for various reasons (hands tend to be discarded and several tribs), CC as it is easily searched for, great in a Cannon Soldier Burn deck (Dandelion + Last Will = 3000 LP damage, with Dark Room of Nightmare 4800!)... bottom line is I wouldn't play it Over Scapegoats, but I would play it over Spy in any deck other than a GK build.

[Pottski]

There's always a possiblility of this coming out in a Judai pack #2.

Or UDE might grow some testicles and tell Konami that they want the unreleased promos over here. Either or.

[PMasterS]

There's always a possiblility of this coming out in a Judai pack #2.

Or UDE might grow some testicles and tell Konami that they want the unreleased promos over here. Either or.


Personally I'd rather UDE grow brains than testicles, but they'll prob get us more promos released before they have a clue as to how to run the game so...

[Beast of Gilfer]

Personally I'd rather UDE grow brains than testicles, but they'll prob get us more promos released before they have a clue as to how to run the game so...

There isn't really anything they can do. It is very hard to get promo's released unless they are released the same matter as they were released in Japan.

As for Dandelion, I simply love this card, even before I knew it's effect because it's a plant. Plant needs some good, notable cards and this card rocks. I am just going to have to use it in my OCG deck until it gets released in English which hopefully isn't to long.

[PMasterS]

I don't think we'll know this card true impact until we are able to test it in a full fledged metagame, but if I were to guess I'd say it'll be used primarily in a combo deck simply due to the unwillingness of people to include defensive monsters in a CC deck.

[robotvman]

it's powerful, it will be a CC card, but i dont think it will be broken. it will be powerful enough to be put in the semi restrict list..... maybe even the restricted list. It all depends on how it will impact us when it comes out.

[PMasterS]

it's powerful, it will be a CC card, but i dont think it will be broken. it will be powerful enough to be put in the semi restrict list..... maybe even the restricted list. It all depends on how it will impact us when it comes out.

If anything the average CC deck will only run 1 copy of it, it cold be 2 but i doubt it.

If people only play 1 then there'd be no point in restricting it, and semi limiting it would only hurt decks built on a combo with it.

[EXILE]

VJC-JP013
Dandylion
Earth/Plant/3/300/300
Effect: When this card is send to Graveyard, special summon 2 "Fluff Token" (Wind/Plant/1/0/0) in defense mode onto your field. During the turn the tokens are special summon, they cannot be sacrifice for sacrifice summon.

3. being lv 1, you can use METAMORPHOSIS to bring out the good old TER, ouch...

is it lvl 1 or 3?

[Exiled]

is it lvl 1 or 3?
The Dandelion is 3, The Tokens are 1

[Shadowhunter]

If anything the average CC deck will only run 1 copy of it, it cold be 2 but i doubt it.

If people only play 1 then there'd be no point in restricting it, and semi limiting it would only hurt decks built on a combo with it.
You're too hyped up, the common cc build WON'T even use it at all. It doesn't combo with anything in a cc, nor does it provide any kinda of advantage.

[Exiled]

You're too hyped up, the common cc build WON'T even use it at all. It doesn't combo with anything in a cc, nor does it provide any kinda of advantage.
It could ease up the discarding factor by being able to compensate for field presence. But we all know that CC care about advantage

[Shadowhunter]

It could ease up the discarding factor by being able to compensate for field presence. But we all know that CC care about advantage
I didn't say it isn't good, I said it won't be used in cc, because, there are exactly ZERO cards w/ a discard cost played in today's CC.

[Exiled]

I didn't say it isn't good, I said it won't be used in cc, because, there are exactly ZERO cards w/ a discard cost played in today's CC.
Phoenix Wing Wind Blast and Raigeki Break were popular during the Sinister Serpent Times

[Beast of Gilfer]

I didn't say it isn't good, I said it won't be used in cc, because, there are exactly ZERO cards w/ a discard cost played in today's CC.

It doesn't have to be discarded. There are many ways CC decks can abuse it's effect. The great bonus is that it makes tribute monsters alot less painful and Dark magician of Chaos alot more playable.

[now2ai8]

It doesn't have to be discarded. There are many ways CC decks can abuse it's effect. The great bonus is that it makes tribute monsters alot less painful and Dark magician of Chaos alot more playable.

yeah, two tribute monsters might actually be be played competitively. Especially dark magician of chaos.

[lordjar]

I just realized that it is a V-Jump promo... and I have to ask...

Have we actually gotten a V-Jump promo yet? Not including reprints of old cards.

If the answer is no, then I believe that we will never see dandelion in the states... ever... except in japanese format in some collector's binder..

[Exiled]

I just realized that it is a V-Jump promo... and I have to ask...

Have we actually gotten a V-Jump promo yet? Not including reprints of old cards.

If the answer is no, then I believe that we will never see dandelion in the states... ever... except in japanese format in some collector's binder..
I believe that Cyber Harpie Lady was a V-Jump Promo

[Beast of Gilfer]

I believe that Cyber Harpie Lady was a V-Jump Promo

You are correct and the rest of the sneak peak cards are weekly Jump promos. So it could happen. Eventually.

[Crown_Axe]

the dandilions tokens can't be tribute summoned, it's not that great

[Exiled]

the dandilions tokens can't be tribute summoned, it's not that great
For that turn, only. Its tribute summonable afterwards

[Beast of Gilfer]

the dandilions tokens can't be tribute summoned, it's not that great

That's why is isn't broken. You just have to be smart and know how to use it and when to use it.

[Piroko]

Meh. There's no proof that if this card comes over here, it will have the same effect. As it stands, it's a rather stupid first turn drop for Soul Control.

As it's translated, we'll have to see.

[PMasterS]

You're too hyped up, the common cc build WON'T even use it at all. It doesn't combo with anything in a cc, nor does it provide any kinda of advantage.

I did say IF anything, I'm not hyped up on it, I just find it interesting.

When i first read this thread I thought that it had been one of the cards created in the 'fixing the game' thread, and that someone had misunderstood, obviously i was wrong.

[BabYcakes]

the best use this card has is merely to make burn decks able to stall more and pull out more wins. other than that dandelion won't see much play in aggressive decks.

[lordjar]

Here are the facts

1> Dandelion is incredibly summonable, since it is level 3
2> Dandelion's effect isn't restricted to attack only... anything that sends this card to the graveyard... ANYTHING (Discard from hand, Destroyed, Sent, Attacked, Tributed) and you gain 2 tokens that have inumberable uses.
3> The tokens can be sacrificed for a monster, but not on the turn they are summoned. So let's say you have that DMOC out and your dandelion gets attacked, BOOM! 2 tokens, and then you opponent doesn't have anything else to attack... then its a quick use of a spell card from your hand the following turn, and if it was good, get it back for DMOC when you summon him with the tokens.
4> Not restricted thus far... meaning that you have 9 creatures for the price of 3... Scapegoat only nets you 4, and you can't even sacrifice them for a sacrifice summon.

To quote Dragon Warrior:

summon cannon soldier, activate last will, sac a dandelion, sp summon another (last will), launch first 2 tokens, launch second dandelion, sacrifice 2 tokens, activate shallow grave, revive dandelyon, sacrifice dandelyon, sacrifice tokens, sacrifice soldier,

5000 damage


Run Mystic Tomato and Lord Poison in the deck for retrieval of Cannon Soldiers, Dandelion, and Mystic Tomato's (Latter 2 Lord Poison and Graveyard) and you have a firing range of goodness...

Nuff said... When Dandelion comes out... I will be the King...

[Fuji_X18]

By this time new cards made are not broken they may appear to be solid but only time can tell.

IMO its not broken compared to goats.
Reason being is I could set up with other monsters and have goats as backup which i get 4 btw. Whereas if i play that card I waste my summoning to have only 2 more defenses and it might get hit by NoC and DD lady.

Y not play Peten then and thin out ur deck instead?

[Rakath]

Because Peten is an optional effect, which can miss his timing. Dandylion does not have this issue.

Scapegoat can be Cursed, or can't activate because your field has two monsters on it... so it's not 100% reliable...

[ajp123]

This + Merchant = Poanage.

I can see this being used in a fair few CCs. It's just so damn versatile, unless the translation isn't accurate.

It might actually make morph a semi-playable card again as well.

~AJP.

[Undead Knight]

Some people seem to be forgetting that Dandelion takes an attack to. So even though goats take and extra attack Dandelion takes one less so you can tribute the tokens.

Broken Tokens IMHO. I'd run one in my zombie deck.

[baaaaaa123]

The word broken is thrown around way to much. Way to much.

This + Merchant = Poanage.

Ya sure. Because you are garunteed to discard it with Merchant everytime. What a reliable and broken combo.

I can see this cards effect being activated from your hand/deck very rarely. Only from feild. And if you can't make use of the tokens it'll eventually give you -1. In Soul Control maybe? But personally I would much rather tribute my opponents monsters (Brain Control, Soul Exchange) but that's just me. (Acctually it's any player with half a brain)

[horus'masta]

It's better than scapegoat... It's way more versatile. Tell me, can scapegoat's effect activate if it's being used as a discard cost? Can it be used to TRIBUTE SUMMON? You see, the biggest reason this card is so good is being able to activate to the effect when it's sent to the graveyard. That alone, makes this card powerful. In a deck that abuses this card, it can do very well.
your missing something here people dont run enough tribs outside of soul control for this to combo with tributing, also its only 2 tokens, not 4.

in the instance that it would be discarded from your hand, is the instance you have 0 protection (who LETS reaper hit them) thus scapegoat would be set.

you have to look at how the situation will actually play out, rather than its very basic function.

Scapegoat>Dandelion


Because Peten is an optional effect, which can miss his timing. Dandylion does not have this issue.

Scapegoat can be Cursed, or can't activate because your field has two monsters on it... so it's not 100% reliable...
if u set goats, or summon a second monster while goats is fd, im sorry your nub.

[Luis The Dead]

Dandelion>Scapegoat

This new card's combo potential is completely unmatched in my opinion. I'd bring out 2 tokens any day over 4 if the 2 would eventually be tributed. This card deserves a space in the restriction list as I am damn sure some person is already working on serius abuse for this card. The simple fact that "Scapegoat" tokens can't be tributed and clog up your zones (therefore getting 2 is even better anyway) makes it nothing compared to this card. This card is just plain stupid and fat and that's all there is to it. :)

[PMasterS]

I can see this cards effect being activated from your hand/deck very rarely. Only from feild. And if you can't make use of the tokens it'll eventually give you -1. In Soul Control maybe? But personally I would much rather tribute my opponents monsters (Brain Control, Soul Exchange) but that's just me. (Acctually it's any player with half a brain)


That's ridiculous, thats like saying that there's no point running any monster as it could be killed in battle, or in the case of DDA then DDS could kill it giving a -1.

Card Advantage is an illusion so don't think in terms of it, this card is combo strong, reliable as its almost certain you'll get the effect, and if you have a brain you can build the deck properly and play it well to take advantage of its effect.
Soul Control doesn't exist either but there's no point getting into that now.

And believe me half a brain sounds like the exact amount that you have.

[PcolaFL]

if this card is released in the US i will run 3 in my pot deck, its absolutely insane and much better than scapegoat.

[Magical-Yata]

If that translation is correct, OMG.

[IoriKusanagi]

the best use this card has is merely to make burn decks able to stall more and pull out more wins. other than that dandelion won't see much play in aggressive decks.

I think someone wasn't playing yugioh about 5 months ago when people were running 2-3 scapegoats. I think if its released here and the translation is accurate, we will be seeing a new token control deck. I can already see this with monarchs, creature swap, and enemy controller. People always underestimate tokens becouse they are usually fairly weak, but they offer the player time, and advantage through other cards.

[Radical Dreamer]

This is slightly broken (and I don't use the term lightly), if you think about what it can do in a ectoplasmer-control or cannon soldier burn deck.
This will singlehandedly make cannonsoldier burn an effective decktype again.
Cannon + last will + dandelion = 3500 damage
Cannon + spirit art + dandelion (and one in grave) = 3000
Not bad for cards I can run three of in my deck.

Just use something like this:
3x Cannon Soldier
3x Dandelion
3x Giant Rat
3x Last Will
2x Pot of Avarice
1x Scapegoat
2x Spiritual Art Kurogane (trib rat to get back used dandelions)
This would be so funny & evil, I just hope I can build it one day for the tcg...

edit: As I am an impatient guy I just built it for the ocg. It's in my sig ;)
Now I just have to get three dandelions...

[SuperJay]

I think someone wasn't playing yugioh about 5 months ago when people were running 2-3 scapegoats. I think if its released here and the translation is accurate, we will be seeing a new token control deck. I can already see this with monarchs, creature swap, and enemy controller. People always underestimate tokens becouse they are usually fairly weak, but they offer the player time, and advantage through other cards.


It is only natural for most TCG players to scoff and brush tokens aside as there are very few good Token Creating cards in TCG.

ATM we have:
Spell/Traps
Jam Breeding Machine, stops any of your summonings, tokens in ATK mode
Statue of the Wicked, slow, needs to be destroyed to activate
Physical Double, weak, creates a token for 1 turn during your opp. turn, can't even use it for a tribute summon next turn.
Stray Lambs, barely helps tribute monster decks if they can survive being set for 1 turn.
Scapegoat, cheapest, fastest, most versatile tokens in the game... non-tributable...
Multiplication of Ants, wow.. tribute 1 insect for 2 500atk, non-tributable tokens.


Monsters
Insect Queen, who runs an insect deck, needs to detsroy an opp. monster, tokens in ATK mode
Ojama Trio, very under-rated card! great in many decks
Cobra Jar, meh, 500 burn if they kill the token
Des Dendle, requires Vampire Orchis and destroy a mon to get a token
Lekunga, likely the most expensive tokens in the game


OCG has what?
Dandilion, the latest and greatest token creating card, more versatile then scapegoat and better quality tokens for less quantity.
Multiply, Kuriboh became just as good as Scapegoat, though non-tributable tokens.
Devil Sanctuary, HIGHLY wanted in TCG, easily the best one token possible.
Blockman, mediocre, he might not survive on the field long enough to make tokens
Clone Duplication, An interesting token created here, like physical double but lasts ALOT longer, copy the stats of a mon, but can only be useful if opp summons a high atk. monster.
The Tricky + Tricky's Magic 4, Spellcasters love tokens, it's only natural there should be oen that creates them when he's destroyed. 2000atk tokens are nice, but can't attack.


See the difference, TCG right now has only 1 really good token creator, Scapegoat.
If TCG got Devil's Sanctuary, then tokens would get more respect.

-SuperJay

[Beast of Gilfer]

It is only natural for most TCG players to scoff and brush tokens aside as there are very few good Token Creating cards in TCG.

ATM we have:
Spell/Traps
Jam Breeding Machine, stops any of your summonings, tokens in ATK mode
Statue of the Wicked, slow, needs to be destroyed to activate
Physical Double, weak, creates a token for 1 turn during your opp. turn, can't even use it for a tribute summon next turn.
Stray Lambs, barely helps tribute monster decks if they can survive being set for 1 turn.
Scapegoat, cheapest, fastest, most versatile tokens in the game... non-tributable...
Multiplication of Ants, wow.. tribute 1 insect for 2 500atk, non-tributable tokens.


Monsters
Insect Queen, who runs an insect deck, needs to detsroy an opp. monster, tokens in ATK mode
Ojama Trio, very under-rated card! great in many decks
Cobra Jar, meh, 500 burn if they kill the token
Des Dendle, requires Vampire Orchis and destroy a mon to get a token
Lekunga, likely the most expensive tokens in the game


OCG has what?
Dandilion, the latest and greatest token creating card, more versatile then scapegoat and better quality tokens for less quantity.
Multiply, Kuriboh became just as good as Scapegoat, though non-tributable tokens.
Devil Sanctuary, HIGHLY wanted in TCG, easily the best one token possible.
Blockman, mediocre, he might not survive on the field long enough to make tokens
Clone Duplication, An interesting token created here, like physical double but lasts ALOT longer, copy the stats of a mon, but can only be useful if opp summons a high atk. monster.
The Tricky + Tricky's Magic 4, Spellcasters love tokens, it's only natural there should be oen that creates them when he's destroyed. 2000atk tokens are nice, but can't attack.


See the difference, TCG right now has only 1 really good token creator, Scapegoat.
If TCG got Devil's Sanctuary, then tokens would get more respect.

-SuperJay

I just realized that Dandelion would be awesome in a Insect deck based around Insect Queen. Not that important but definitely helps Insect Queen alot.

[Cyber Dragon's Bazoo]

I can't wait until this comes out, this will be welcome in my deck like Yellow Spring Frog.

[BeeLegendary]

is sacrified summon the same as tribute summon??

well, i think this card do have potential. i would run 3 copy. :D

[Mayuga]

Not broken, Scapegoat is better.

[Beast of Gilfer]

is sacrified summon the same as tribute summon??

well, i think this card do have potential. i would run 3 copy. :D

Yes it is.

[Darkriku3]

you people throw "broken" out far to much.
this card is horrible BY ITSELF, that being said, its a great combo card, sadly combo's aren't a good idea unless they grant instant advantage, a FEW combos with this card do just that.
is it good? yes, is it broken? not a chance in hell, to be broken i'd have to have an effect not directly dependant on other cards.

[Beast of Gilfer]

you people throw "broken" out far to much.
this card is horrible BY ITSELF, that being said, its a great combo card, sadly combo's aren't a good idea unless they grant instant advantage, a FEW combos with this card do just that.
is it good? yes, is it broken? not a chance in hell, to be broken i'd have to have an effect not directly dependant on other cards.

How is horrible by itself. It can hold up a three monster wall on it's own which isn't bad and since it only has to be sent to the graveyard it gets it's effect regardless of what destroys it. Also is Chaos Emperor Dragon broken? Yes. Is it dependent upon a light and Dark being in the Graveyard? Hell yes. I don't believe Dandelion is broken but it is definitely better than just good it is awesome.:p

[Bankotsu the Great]

Dandelion is only better if discarded or a card is wasted on it and if you can manage to keep the tokens alive for a tribute.

Scapegoats can bring out cards like MST, DT, HS, Breaker, etc. You get 4 tokens, which may clog up your field, but they do protect you for the most part. As long as your oppenent may ne clogging your field, you are not being hit. Also, can combo with Creature Swap as so as you get it.

[Beast of Gilfer]

Dandelion is only better if discarded or a card is wasted on it and if you can manage to keep the tokens alive for a tribute.

Scapegoats can bring out cards like MST, DT, HS, Breaker, etc. You get 4 tokens, which may clog up your field, but they do protect you for the most part. As long as your oppenent may ne clogging your field, you are not being hit. Also, can combo with Creature Swap as so as you get it.

Dandelions can be used with everything that involves Sacrificing to discarding. It can also be used on your opponents turn's through, Phoenix Wing Wind Blast, Enemy Controller etc. It also makes your opponent waste Dark Hole, Exiled Force, Zaborg, etc. Dandelion also only provides with one defense less then Scapegoat. I really don't know which is better, but I sure know that Dandelion is really good.

[now2ai8]

Dandelion is only better if discarded or a card is wasted on it and if you can manage to keep the tokens alive for a tribute.

Scapegoats can bring out cards like MST, DT, HS, Breaker, etc. You get 4 tokens, which may clog up your field, but they do protect you for the most part. As long as your oppenent may ne clogging your field, you are not being hit. Also, can combo with Creature Swap as so as you get it.

hahah.. that's funny how you said it's only better when it's being discarded, tributed and/or a monster removal is wasted on it. That's the point. Those are some of the reasons why it is better than scapegoat. So, you're just proving my point.

From what you're saying, dandelion bait out monster destruction while scapegoat bait out magic/trap destruction. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. I just think dandelion is more versatile b/c it's has a bit of scapegoat, ojama trio, and sinister serpent in one card.

Scapegoat, as a block, is always better than dandelion. Scapegoat, as a combo card, will be weaker than dandelion. Normally, in a deck that abuse tokens, you should be using both anyways.

[greenblade]

i'd have to wager that it will be limited... and quick. it makes vortex & magic jammer really good cards.

it makes divine wrath.... divine. ;) seriously, i negate your mobius, no effect, i gain two defense monsters i can sak for an AGG next turn... sounds fun. oh, wait, i don't run AGG... for my own mobius then.

this will quickly be limited, but hopefully it gives us one kinky period in the meta before it goes semi bye-bye

[Spike15]

I WANT DANDELION!!!!

OMFG THIS THING RULES!!!!

Too bad Konami/UDE won't release it for an eternity.

DAMN THEM ALL!!!!

Spike15

[Sasuke Uchiha]

This thread went from many saying this card has potential, but sucks, to random scrubs screaming for the card. It's an OKAY card, that's it. Nothin' more. I would prolly use it in 2-6 of the decks I use cause I tend to play semi-stall and really appreciate tokens. It's good to combo with, but it doesn't serve a real purpose outside of that. I'd get it, but wouldn't realy on this during a duel. That would be stupid. VERY STUPID

And scapegoat is better then this. MUCH better, seeing how it's faster, and helps out when you're about to die. But time will soon tell, and see if I have to eat my own words from this very post.

[Beast of Gilfer]

This thread went from many saying this card has potential, but sucks, to random scrubs screaming for the card. It's an OKAY card, that's it. Nothin' more. I would prolly use it in 2-6 of the decks I use cause I tend to play semi-stall and really appreciate tokens. It's good to combo with, but it doesn't serve a real purpose outside of that. I'd get it, but wouldn't realy on this during a duel. That would be stupid. VERY STUPID

And scapegoat is better then this. MUCH better, seeing how it's faster, and helps out when you're about to die. But time will soon tell, and see if I have to eat my own words from this very post.

Another person who doesn't know the potential of Dandelion.:( I admit this thread is a little to much, but how can you say that scapegoat is much better then Dandelion. Have you playtested it before? I highly doubt it. I admit that Scapegoat is an awesome card but Dandelion is awesome too. Firstly they do a lot of the same things, except that Scapegoat provides an extra token and is faster. While Dandelion can be discarded to get it's effect, doesn't clog the field and it's tokens can be sacrificed. So both are really good.

[Sasuke Uchiha]

And scapegoat is better then this. MUCH better, seeing how it's faster, and helps out when you're about to die. But time will soon tell, and see if I have to eat my own words from this very post.

My exact words from about 12 hours ago. I'll eat my own words if I see ScapeGoat being over-played by Dandelion. Also, I proxied this card at lunch, and it's very effective, just only in certain decks. In Chaos(IMHO), it's almost always a dead card, but it does help when Card Destruction comes your way. But seeing how I appreciate tokens, I'll prolly tech this card in 2-outta-6 of my decks. It's a good card, better then the credit I was giving it this morning, but I still stand by me word that ScapeGoat is better.

[Gundam Deathscythe]

this card works well with ultamate offering sac dandelioin then sac the 2 tokens (or 1) and there you go you have 2 summond skulls on the field

[Beast of Gilfer]

My exact words from about 12 hours ago. I'll eat my own words if I see ScapeGoat being over-played by Dandelion. Also, I proxied this card at lunch, and it's very effective, just only in certain decks. In Chaos(IMHO), it's almost always a dead card, but it does help when Card Destruction comes your way. But seeing how I appreciate tokens, I'll prolly tech this card in 2-outta-6 of my decks. It's a good card, better then the credit I was giving it this morning, but I still stand by me word that ScapeGoat is better.

I am glad you playtested it, and admitted it is good. You never know about Dandelion being played more then Scapegoat but I doubt it. Different people like different cards, what suits you may not suit me, which Dandelion does. Alot of people would agree with you that Scapegoat is indeed the better card, while I find them equally useful and powerful.

[Sasuke Uchiha]

I am glad you playtested it, and admitted it is good. You never know about Dandelion being played more then Scapegoat but I doubt it. Different people like different cards, what suits you may not suit me, which Dandelion does. Alot of people would agree with you that Scapegoat is indeed the better card, while I find them equally useful and powerful.

You've given me a lot to comtemplate about. Dandelion is a great card. It's not going to be teched by everyone, but neither is Scapegoat, and its one of those Godforsaken restricted cards. ScapeGoat is one of those cards that the opponent might be ready to walk right into, and have a SST8 sitting tight. Dandelion is kinda a ticking time-bomb, and when it explodes, it can really cause problems for your opponent. It's just that it kinda slow on the obstacle course, you know, the exact same one scapegoat can lap 'im in.

Well, at least it has it's perks over stray lambs, which is gangster enough already.

Yes, to Zabuza. Naruto is teh roxers!!11

[Beast of Gilfer]

You've given me a lot to comtemplate about. Dandelion is a great card. It's not going to be teched by everyone, but neither is Scapegoat, and its one of those Godforsaken restricted cards. ScapeGoat is one of those cards that the opponent might be ready to walk right into, and have a SST8 sitting tight. Dandelion is kinda a ticking time-bomb, and when it explodes, it can really cause problems for your opponent. It's just that it kinda slow on the obstacle course, you know, the exact same one scapegoat can lap 'im in.

Well, at least it has it's perks over stray lambs, which is gangster enough already.

Yes, to Zabuza. Naruto is teh roxers!!11

Yes, speed is one of the greatest strengths Scapegoat has and one of the greatest weakness' of Dandelion.

P.S. Zabuza rocks!!!!!!:D :D I love naruto!

[lordjar]

I think what actually needs to be said is this

Dandelion isn't the new and improved scapegoat.

It's in a class all its own... the S-Class

Best used with Cannon Soldier the Danelion is... but it has so many great purposes... Monarch Abuse, High-Tribute Abuse... just think of all those moisture creatures and Gilford the Lightnings that may start to see play in actual working decks...

[Darkriku3]

and asura preist still kills them all, great.
in the fact you can tribute them, whoopdee, thats pretty good..
other than that its one token less than scapes..
oh and an intresting downside, Ha des completly destroys this card, and I run ha des in just about every deck.. so I'd love for people to start playing this guy.

[Beast of Gilfer]

and asura preist still kills them all, great.
in the fact you can tribute them, whoopdee, thats pretty good..
other than that its one token less than scapes..
oh and an intresting downside, Ha des completly destroys this card, and I run ha des in just about every deck.. so I'd love for people to start playing this guy.

yeah....Ha des gets owned by traps which are played in large numbers. Dandelion can also be discarded which is why it is very versatile. One less the Scapegoat but his tokens can be tributed making tribute monsters alot more playable.

[Exiled]

yeah....Ha des gets owned by traps which are played in large numbers. Dandelion can also be discarded which is why it is very versatile. One less the Scapegoat but his tokens can be tributed making tribute monsters alot more playable.
You should change your custom title to Dandelion's #1 Fan. You've been supporting this card from all the posts I've seen and managed to change the minds of some non-belivers. GJ

[Beast of Gilfer]

You should change your custom title to Dandelion's #1 Fan. You've been supporting this card from all the posts I've seen and managed to change the minds of some non-belivers. GJ

hahaha, thanks. Yeah Dandelion rules but Survivor is better.:p

[Sasuke Uchiha]

Strangest thing happened today. I'm playing against some random guy at the Library, then all of the sudden, I see a discarded Dandelion dusting out two tokens. I was like WTF???:confused: He says that he heard about Dandelion from Micheal (guy I play with), and Micheal is the same guy that I told about this card.

Cards so versitile, it's spread word all over Cedabrea. I was shocked!:eek:

AND WHO DOESN'T LIKE NARUTO??? Well, except for all those legions of Bleach fans.

[Beast of Gilfer]

Strangest thing happened today. I'm playing against some random guy at the Library, then all of the sudden, I see a discarded Dandelion dusting out two tokens. I was like WTF???:confused: He says that he heard about Dandelion from Micheal (guy I play with), and Micheal is the same guy that I told about this card.

Cards so versitile, it's spread word all over Cedabrea. I was shocked!:eek:


HAHAHA, you see the weed is spreading.


AND WHO DOESN'T LIKE NARUTO??? Well, except for all those legions of Bleach fans.

Don't forget Soccer Mom's

[Tails9095]

Dandelion: My anti-deck out deck card > : )

[Hades'sChaos]

Dandelion seems very playable to me. About as playable as Night Assailant was before it got restricted, maybe even a little more. It combo's very nicely with Cannon Soldier, Creature Swap, EC, and cards with discard costs to name a few. I wouldn't call it broken nor neccessarily superior to Scapegoat but I expect it will see a lot of play when people realise its potential.

[Beyond-Human]

scapegoat is better

scape goat = 4 tokens
danndylion = 1 dandylion+ 2 tokens

scapegoat is much better. i dont like to talk of numbers , but i have to in this case. scapegoat is much better

[mighty mouse]

Dandilion isn't quite as good as Scapegoat, but it's definatly better than "Stray Lambs".

[Beast of Gilfer]

scapegoat is better

scape goat = 4 tokens
danndylion = 1 dandylion+ 2 tokens

scapegoat is much better. i dont like to talk of numbers , but i have to in this case. scapegoat is much better

you don't know what your talking about. Have you read the entire thread, if so then you would understand why *Dandelion* isn't much worse then Scapegoat. For one Dandelion only has to be sent to the graveyard, that means, hand, field w/e. Next Dandelion's tokens can be used for tributing unlike Scapegoat. Use Dandelion wisely and you have an easy two tribute monster.

[now2ai8]

To the people saying scapegoat is better, please explain. I'm a bit confused here. Besides having less tokens, I don't see why scapegoat is anymore superior. If you're refering to speed, it really doesn't matter much b/c a deck based around scapegoat was slow anyways (aka TER/Tsuku). Look at the overall picture before saying scapegoat is better. Don't just based it on the # of tokens. I still think dandelion is superior b/c of the potential it has. Dandelion is so versatile, it will make a lot of decks better. It's like comparing EC to book of moon. Book of moon is better b/c it is more vesatile. Thus, making it more playable in more situations.

BOTTOMLINE: DANDELION IS MORE VESATILE THAN SCAPEGOAT.

[motxmod]

Scapegoat
PROS:
Quickplay
4 meat puppets
morphable to TER
Earth (they have support)
Beast (they have support)
fissure bait
anti-swap

CONS:
non-tributable for summons
0 def
No more summoning the turn
need <2 monsters to activate

Dandelion
PROS:
Plant Monster and tokens (they need support)
Earth monster (they have support)
Wind tokens (they need support)
3 max meat puppets if originally on field
activates from any trip to the grave
tokens Morphable to TER
Fissure bait
tributable tokens for summons
unrestricted as we know (time will tell)

CONS:
Not tributable on tokens' summon
Plant (not much support)
Wind tokens (not much support)
0 def tokens
may not be correctly translated (time will tell)

So Scapegoat is a +8 and a -4 = +4 and Dandelion is a +9 and a -5 = +4

Therefore both are equal in usability, but the flower has the power in abusability.

[lordjar]

OKAY!!!!

IF DANDELION GOES BYE BYE BY ANY MEANS, YOU GET 2 TOKENS

Deck Devastation Virus
Lightning Vortex
Dark Hole
The Cheerful Coffin
Sacrifice Summon

you know what... EVERYTHING GETS THIS MONSTER ITS MOTHER F'N EFFECT

SCAPEGOAT HAS NOTHING ON THIS MONSTER.. NOTHING

Ha Des stops the effect does it? Not if I assault on GHQ it... you lose 2 cards and I get two tokens... or maybe I'll use Raigeki Break to save it from Hades attack and <slaps that idiot> discard Dandelion for 2 tokens...

You know what stops Scapegoat? alot more than what can stop dandelion... Get over it! You've lost! Go Home!

GAME OVER MAN! GAME OVER!

BTW... nice title Gilfer... LONG LIVE DANDELION!!!!!

[PMasterS]

To the people saying scapegoat is better, please explain. I'm a bit confused here. Besides having less tokens, I don't see why scapegoat is anymore superior. If you're refering to speed, it really doesn't matter much b/c a deck based around scapegoat was slow anyways (aka TER/Tsuku). Look at the overall picture before saying scapegoat is better. Don't just based it on the # of tokens. I still think dandelion is superior b/c of the potential it has. Dandelion is so versatile, it will make a lot of decks better. It's like comparing EC to book of moon. Book of moon is better b/c it is more vesatile. Thus, making it more playable in more situations.

BOTTOMLINE: DANDELION IS MORE VESATILE THAN SCAPEGOAT.


That's not the case as scapegoat can be splahed into decks which have no support for it, whereas to be truly effective Dandelion will need building around a bit more. In fact putting copies of scapegoat into decks often made other cards in there more playable or allowed for an extra card that suited the deck type to be placed in which normally wouldn't have been able to.


Instead of comparing this card to scapegoat you should be comparing in to stray lambs.

[Rudoku]

AND WHO DOESN'T LIKE NARUTO??? Well, except for all those legions of Bleach fans.
Anyone that suffered through "Haku's Ice Mirrors" or that big filler extravaganza Japan's going through now.

This thread should've been named "Dandelion: The new & improved Stray Lambs", because that's exactly what it is.

[Exiled]

Well stray lambs has barely seen play so comparing both would be like saying Dandelion is about useful as Stray Lambs which of course , HELL NO!. This cards usability is as the same as scapegoats. Using 3 Dandelions will have good field and hand presence but its not clear if it can be splashed into all decks (Take for example, Gravekeepers Spy). As for me, I can be sure it will be started out as tech, then CC

[SuperJay]

That's not the case as scapegoat can be splahed into decks which have no support for it, whereas to be truly effective Dandelion will need building around a bit more. In fact putting copies of scapegoat into decks often made other cards in there more playable or allowed for an extra card that suited the deck type to be placed in which normally wouldn't have been able to.


Instead of comparing this card to scapegoat you should be comparing in to stray lambs.

I'm surprized at how many people here are like race horses wearing CC blinders to only see what's in front of them.

Comparing Dandelion to Stray Lambs is the WORST comparison.

Dandelion isn't Scapegoat. Dandelion isn't Stray Lambs. Dandelion isn't Sinister Serpent.
The little flower is something rarely seen in this game, Dandelion is an all-purpose card.

His effects makes him just as useful as other all-purpose cards like spirit reaper or Don Zaloog.

It has 3 major uses that can help most current decks.

1. Discarding from hand. Cost cards are playable once again and you get 2 tokens for discarding Dandelion.
Raigeki Break in your opp. End phase just became your best friend.
Lightning Vortex becomes more viable to deal with swarming.
At worst, discarding Dandelion for these cards is 2 for 3 + additional monsters hit by LV.
Even Monster Reincarnation isn't that bad with getting 2 tokens to the field and that breaker back to your hand.

2. Tribute food. Dandelion and his tokens are all tributable which just helped increase the playablity of tribute monsters. Chances are 1 or 2 of the tokens will survive to your turn and you can then use them to tribute for your Mobius or even Pheonix.

3. Field Presence. Dandelion has 3 defenders in 1 card, himself plus his 2 tokens. So chances are he'll save you for a turn and keep the pressure on your opp. to lure them to keep attacking into possible traps.

With 3 major uses going for him while Stray Lambs only covers 2 of these, Scapegoats covers 1 of these and Sinister serpent covers 1 of these, Dandelion is more powerful in the sense that he's more versatile.

I know I'll be using him in my decks when it comes out. He looks like he wants to be abused.

-SuperJay

[Darkriku3]

Strangest thing happened today. I'm playing against some random guy at the Library, then all of the sudden, I see a discarded Dandelion dusting out two tokens. I was like WTF???:confused: He says that he heard about Dandelion from Micheal (guy I play with), and Micheal is the same guy that I told about this card.

Cards so versitile, it's spread word all over Cedabrea. I was shocked!:eek:

AND WHO DOESN'T LIKE NARUTO??? Well, except for all those legions of Bleach fans.

you asked the question, so i'll give you an answer.
Naurto has bombed, it was great, and ended being REALLLY good at the zazuba arc, being the best arc in the whole series, and the show completely fell apart after the fight with Rock lee and Gaara.
let me explain, after this point in the show, they stoped being ninja's, and were ONLY ninja's by name alone, in all other aspects they were Super powerful, weilding insanely powerful moves, to put it bluntly, it became almost exactly like Dragon Ball Z, but they called themselves Ninja, now I liked dragon ball z, but I never, EVER wanted to see it made again, EVER, and here it was, right there, Naruto.
Argue against me if you like, your probably just a little baised, considering you have a naruto Sig.
Bleach is the same damn thing, though they fit they're intended roles at least, they are still going ZOMG super power! Bankai=super sayain, just like Fox power = super sayain, Bleach is DBZ, but with ghosts.


that aside, this card is good, but all this hype is destining it to fail.

[Beast of Gilfer]

you asked the question, so i'll give you an answer.
Naurto has bombed, it was great, and ended being REALLLY good at the zazuba arc, being the best arc in the whole series, and the show completely fell apart after the fight with Rock lee and Gaara.
let me explain, after this point in the show, they stoped being ninja's, and were ONLY ninja's by name alone, in all other aspects they were Super powerful, weilding insanely powerful moves, to put it bluntly, it became almost exactly like Dragon Ball Z, but they called themselves Ninja, now I liked dragon ball z, but I never, EVER wanted to see it made again, EVER, and here it was, right there, Naruto.
Argue against me if you like, your probably just a little baised, considering you have a naruto Sig.
Bleach is the same damn thing, though they fit they're intended roles at least, they are still going ZOMG super power! Bankai=super sayain, just like Fox power = super sayain, Bleach is DBZ, but with ghosts.


that aside, this card is good, but all this hype is destining it to fail.

This isn't a Naruto thread, so why are you trying to confince people it isn't a good show.

I agree with you superJay, I too will be using Dandelion if not two of them.:D

LordJar - Everything you said is true, I even missed some of the stuff and I am only beginning to realize the power of Dandelion.:p LONG LIVE DANDELION!!!!

[PMasterS]

I'm surprized at how many people here are like race horses wearing CC blinders to only see what's in front of them.

Comparing Dandelion to Stray Lambs is the WORST comparison.

Dandelion isn't Scapegoat. Dandelion isn't Stray Lambs. Dandelion isn't Sinister Serpent.
The little flower is something rarely seen in this game, Dandelion is an all-purpose card.

His effects makes him just as useful as other all-purpose cards like spirit reaper or Don Zaloog.

It has 3 major uses that can help most current decks.

1. Discarding from hand. Cost cards are playable once again and you get 2 tokens for discarding Dandelion.
Raigeki Break in your opp. End phase just became your best friend.
Lightning Vortex becomes more viable to deal with swarming.
At worst, discarding Dandelion for these cards is 2 for 3 + additional monsters hit by LV.
Even Monster Reincarnation isn't that bad with getting 2 tokens to the field and that breaker back to your hand.

2. Tribute food. Dandelion and his tokens are all tributable which just helped increase the playablity of tribute monsters. Chances are 1 or 2 of the tokens will survive to your turn and you can then use them to tribute for your Mobius or even Pheonix.

3. Field Presence. Dandelion has 3 defenders in 1 card, himself plus his 2 tokens. So chances are he'll save you for a turn and keep the pressure on your opp. to lure them to keep attacking into possible traps.

With 3 major uses going for him while Stray Lambs only covers 2 of these, Scapegoats covers 1 of these and Sinister serpent covers 1 of these, Dandelion is more powerful in the sense that he's more versatile.

I know I'll be using him in my decks when it comes out. He looks like he wants to be abused.

-SuperJay


Did you see me say we should compare this card anywhere?

I just said its more comparable to stray lambs than to scapegoat, but maybe your grasp of language isn't strong enough to understand that.

Don Zaloog is NOT an all purpose card, I can't believe there's someone alive stupid enough to say that.

He is more versatile yes, but the problem is that that versatility requires restructuring of decks in order for it to be helpful, and this card does not make costs payble again, sinister did because once you got it, you had it for the duel barring ridiculous situations.

This card creates 2 tokens capable of being used for a tribute summon after the first turn (although stray lambs can be used for a tribute set), and so does stray lambs. The activation trigger is different yes, but you can't compare 2 identical cards, they have to have a difference.

Like it or not this is the monster version of stray lambs.

[SuperJay]

Did you see me say we should compare this card anywhere?

I just said its more comparable to stray lambs than to scapegoat, but maybe your grasp of language isn't strong enough to understand that.

Don Zaloog is NOT an all purpose card, I can't believe there's someone alive stupid enough to say that.

He is more versatile yes, but the problem is that that versatility requires restructuring of decks in order for it to be helpful, and this card does not make costs payble again, sinister did because once you got it, you had it for the duel barring ridiculous situations.

This card creates 2 tokens capable of being used for a tribute summon after the first turn (although stray lambs can be used for a tribute set), and so does stray lambs. The activation trigger is different yes, but you can't compare 2 identical cards, they have to have a difference.

Like it or not this is the monster version of stray lambs.


Hmm. This is what you wrote:
"Instead of comparing this card to scapegoat you should be comparing in to stray lambs."

So to answer your question, yes, you did say we should compare Dandelion to Stray Lambs. So I did compare them, and concluded they weren't a good comparison.
Maybe YOUR grasp of the English language needs some help.
<sarcasm>I can't help in your English it broken.</sarcasm>
You presented an opinion, I gave an analysis and provided a conclusion that proved you wrong. Get over it.

Don Zaloog IS an all-purpose card. Why is it seen in most CC decks if it isn't? He can attack (although weak), has choice of hand disruption or mill, can be searched with Sangan, RotA, etc and can be revived by warrior returning alive among other revival cards.

As for restructuring decks, players restructed their decks on Oct 1st for a new ban list and removed any remaining cost cards because of sinister being banned. Intelligent players would see that Dandelion is a decent replacement for Sinister and will take back the more powerful cost cards to gain advantage. Why run 3x smashing ground and 3x Sakuretsu (non-chainable) when you can run 3x Dandelion, 1 smashing, 1 Lightning vortex, 2 raigeki break and 1 sakuretsu, also allowing you to run 3 or 4 1-Tribute monsters like Mobius and be able to summon them with greater ease.

Right now, the biggest problem with CCs are non-chainable traps like Sakuretsu, Bottomless and Widespread ruin. Nobleman of Extermination is VERY fun to play right now. If there was a card worth discarding that provided some advantage, Raigeki break would become useful again as it's chainable.

To put it simply, there IS NO card that can be compared to Dandelion, it is in a class of its own. It is like an underpowered Scapegoat and underpowered Sinister Serpent combined into 1 card.
Discarding Stray Lambs from your hand as a cost will not give you an advantage the way Danedelion would, so it fails to compare on that aspect.

As I said, Stray Lambs can only compare to 2 of the 3 abilities Dandelion has.

-SuperJay

[Beast of Gilfer]

Did you see me say we should compare this card anywhere?

I just said its more comparable to stray lambs than to scapegoat, but maybe your grasp of language isn't strong enough to understand that.

Don Zaloog is NOT an all purpose card, I can't believe there's someone alive stupid enough to say that.

He is more versatile yes, but the problem is that that versatility requires restructuring of decks in order for it to be helpful, and this card does not make costs payble again, sinister did because once you got it, you had it for the duel barring ridiculous situations.

This card creates 2 tokens capable of being used for a tribute summon after the first turn (although stray lambs can be used for a tribute set), and so does stray lambs. The activation trigger is different yes, but you can't compare 2 identical cards, they have to have a difference.

Like it or not this is the monster version of stray lambs.

First I would like to state that no where in Superjays post did he say he was referring to you as the person who comparied between Stray Lambs and Dandelion. There are plenty of people who did in this thread.

Now then, Don Zaloog isn't an all purpose card, but I am pretty sure he meant a widely used card and the same goes for Spirit Reaper. CC decks get restructured so often to fit the new best thing, it's hard to keep up so don't think they won't do the same if this card becomes the next big thing.

Now! you are comparing it to stray lambs which is dumb. One is a magic card, the other is a monster. One can be discarded, destroyed, sac'd the either can only be activated. Dandelion's effect can also be activated during your opponent's turn whether it is discarded (this is where Don Zaloog/Spirit Reaper comes in so listen tight), destroyed or used along side Enemy Controller, Phoenix Wind Wing Blast etc. This card's ability is light years from Stray Lambs, and the only similarity between the two is that both can create tokens that can be sac'd. That is all.

[Darkriku3]

I am going to laugh SO hard when they translate this card, and it comes out like-
if this card is discarded by an effect (thus all that lighting vortex crap is out the window) or destroyed as a result of battle.
this wouldn't make it bad, on the contrary it would still be a good card, but this would make it reasonable..
and really you people DO NOT want this card to work like yal are saying it is, it will be banned, that simple, it will make Monarch/soul exchange EXTREAMLY powerful.

yal have won me over, I like this card, but I have doubts on its translation.

[Beast of Gilfer]

I am going to laugh SO hard when they translate this card, and it comes out like-
if this card is discarded by an effect (thus all that lighting vortex crap is out the window) or destroyed as a result of battle.
this wouldn't make it bad, on the contrary it would still be a good card, but this would make it reasonable..
and really you people DO NOT want this card to work like yal are saying it is, it will be banned, that simple, it will make Monarch/soul exchange EXTREAMLY powerful.

yal have won me over, I like this card, but I have doubts on its translation.

What do you mean translate? It has been translated this is the cards effect. oh and I am glad, you like it.:D The more Dandelion fans the better.

[Never4everold]

Anyone else notice yet that you can't Tribute them off for a reg tribute summon? I noticed it being mentioned a lot in the first few pages, but I donave the patience to browse around the thread.

Anywho, IMO Scapegoat gets a small edge over DL basing this on card vs card, however DL is far more synergetic than Scapegoat is (now, at least). Keeping this in mind, I'd say DL is going to be a buig hit with the OCG, where stategy is more prevailant, where as TCG players would overlook it as side-deckable at the most. SHame it'll never EVER come out over here :(

[Beast of Gilfer]

Anyone else notice yet that you can't Tribute them off for a reg tribute summon? I noticed it being mentioned a lot in the first few pages, but I donave the patience to browse around the thread.


Yes, it can. Just not the turn the tokens are summoned.

[Bob2]

This card's:

1) More justification to restrict Mobius
2) More reason to sidedeck EBO/Exarion

It's always been my belief that Trample should at least be apart of someone's sidedeck. If I saw a deck running multiples of these or Yomi Frog, you can expect to see some sidedeckage. Don't base your deck around Dandelion.

I'm always happy to see cards that make tributes more playable. The "sent to the graveyard" is a great approach for Konami. "Destroyed as a result of battle" isn't very desirable anymore.

I'd like to see more "sent to the graveyard" cards in the future. Such cards can be easily broken, but not if it does something like this.

[PMasterS]

First I would like to state that no where in Superjays post did he say he was referring to you as the person who comparied between Stray Lambs and Dandelion. There are plenty of people who did in this thread.

Now then, Don Zaloog isn't an all purpose card, but I am pretty sure he meant a widely used card and the same goes for Spirit Reaper. CC decks get restructured so often to fit the new best thing, it's hard to keep up so don't think they won't do the same if this card becomes the next big thing.

Now! you are comparing it to stray lambs which is dumb. One is a magic card, the other is a monster. One can be discarded, destroyed, sac'd the either can only be activated. Dandelion's effect can also be activated during your opponent's turn whether it is discarded (this is where Don Zaloog/Spirit Reaper comes in so listen tight), destroyed or used along side Enemy Controller, Phoenix Wind Wing Blast etc. This card's ability is light years from Stray Lambs, and the only similarity between the two is that both can create tokens that can be sac'd. That is all.


I wasn't honestly comparing them and I have no doubt that Danelion is far better, but if there was a trap card with last will's effect that would also be widely played.

They have the same basic effect but with a different activation trigger due to one being a monster, thats all, it still is basically the monster form of stray lambs.

[Sasuke Uchiha]

you asked the question, so i'll give you an answer.
Naurto has bombed, it was great, and ended being REALLLY good at the zazuba arc, being the best arc in the whole series... ghosts.


that aside, this card is good, but all this hype is destining it to fail.

true dat. After that fight, I dunno what happened. But when you compare all the characters together it's really difficult to dicide who is stronger, or if a single person is even strong at all. I.E. Neji>Naruto, yet Naruto>Sakura, and Sakura is greater then Kakashi. Even though Neji>Sakura, Kakashi>Neji, and Naruto gets owned by everyone. Even Choji. Except Kiba. He lozerz!!11

All that spam aside, Dandelion is being proxied in every deck I play against now. I lost to a real Noob, cause he busted out Dandelion and dropped an early BEWD on me. I never stood a chance.

[Beast of Gilfer]

true dat. After that fight, I dunno what happened. But when you compare all the characters together it's really difficult to dicide who is stronger, or if a single person is even strong at all. I.E. Neji>Naruto, yet Naruto>Sakura, and Sakura is greater then Kakashi. Even though Neji>Sakura, Kakashi>Neji, and Naruto gets owned by everyone. Even Choji. Except Kiba. He lozerz!!11

All that spam aside, Dandelion is being proxied in every deck I play against now. I lost to a real Noob, cause he busted out Dandelion and dropped an early BEWD on me. I never stood a chance.

Do you play the OCG or does everyone just use proxies.

[Sasuke Uchiha]

Do you play the OCG or does everyone just use proxies.

Yes and yes. Both, I guess. I've been playing the OCG since day one. Or if you wanna get technical, then from before the TCG.

**hehe! That rhymed**

[lordjar]

LordJar - Everything you said is true, I even missed some of the stuff and I am only beginning to realize the power of Dandelion.:p LONG LIVE DANDELION!!!!

Yes! I've been sigged again!

These guys will never understand the awesomeness of dandelion... they just want to make love to their Goat Tokens...

Either that, or they want to deter us from liking it so when it does come out, they can start harping about it and say they loved it first

Goat Token loving b@st@rds

[Sasuke Uchiha]

Yes! I've been sigged again!

These guys will never understand the awesomeness of dandelion... they just want to make love to their Goat Tokens...

Either that, or they want to deter us from liking it so when it does come out, they can start harping about it and say they loved it first

Goat Token loving b@st@rds


DAMN IT! HE'S FOUND OUT!!!!!

[Mayuga]

I cant wait till this card comes out ><;

[Vicious Vinc]

the only thing i wish for is a fixed fushion richie. just remove two zombies form the grave to special summon him or three tribute

[Spike15]

I cant wait till this card comes out ><;

Me neither!!!!

I can't wait to run 3 of these in every Stall deck I make.

:cool:

[maniacal laughter]

Spike15
Master of Stall

[Sasuke Uchiha]

I killed this thread, and now I'm bringing it back to life.

Dandelion is good...

See, now it's alive again.

[familyguy1491]

eh not bad doesnt mean that this will be in 9.5/10 decks u see at any tourney(in indiana at least) not bad though. but the plus is fluff token sounds cute

[Beast of Gilfer]

I killed this thread, and now I'm bringing it back to life.

Dandelion is good...

See, now it's alive again.

YEA!!!! the best thread ever as been revived. Dandelion just keeps getting better with the release of new cards. I wouldn't be surprised if it became a staple immediately upon release.

[Souljer]

I didn't say it isn't good, I said it won't be used in cc, because, there are exactly ZERO cards w/ a discard cost played in today's CC.
This card isn't something you throw into a meta to help it, this is something that changes it.

This + Merchant = Poanage.

I can see this being used in a fair few CCs. It's just so damn versatile, unless the translation isn't accurate.

It might actually make morph a semi-playable card again as well.

~AJP.
What he said.

Oh, the person who said this could take the place of spies couldn't be more wrong. Spies have 2,000 defense making them hard to destroy in battle. Even if your opponent Smashes one of the Spies, it solidifies the card advantage that you got, because your opponent used a card to destroy an EXTRA card that you had.

With Dandelion, you can just attack them and destroy them in battle. You end up not getting advantage through Dandelion. (as far as the card goes. It combos really well with cards that Spies couldn't come close to)

Another thing this has over Scapegoats(besides the activation being SO much more versatile) is that it allows you to still use your Normal Summon(not a normal tribute summon, though), or any summon in general. It doesn't stop cards that Scapegoat stops, like Apprentice Magician, elemental Searchers, Hand of Nephthys(heheh), and others.

P.S. I'll be bringing my EBOs and King Tigers out to play again... Maybe my Phoenix can come out to play, too... Always wanted to try Soul Control out...

P.P.S. Konami better get the rights to let UDE print this card in the TCG. Someone start a petition!

[Sasuke Uchiha]

Wait, what set is Dandelion being released in? I see combos with Chain Insect. And I can run more Tributes now! HEHE. Uria, meet you new friend. Gran Maju Da Eiza, Tyranno Infinity, lets party even more!

[Rudoku]

P.P.S. Konami better get the rights to let UDE print this card in the TCG. Someone start a petition!
We all know how it got us BEUD in a timely fashion... And for the guys whining about it being compared to Stray Lambs: Get off it. Just because it has the extra Ojamagic style abuse with it doesn't make it that much different, it just makes it better. And usable.

[psionic psycho]

This card...Kinda broken. Its like, well, an extra Scapegoat. It's really quite comparable to Scapegoat, except they have some key differences. First being, well one is a Spell and the other is a Monster.

Scapegoat:
Pros:
Quickplay,
Spell,
441

Cons:
Can't summon,
Can't tribute summon with

Dandelion:
Pros:
Tribute summon,
Discardable

Cons:
241,
Needs to be sent to grave

Bam, thats the easiest way to compare them, they both seem pretty even to me....Either way, great for Soul Control obv, also good for maybe Burn or token abuse (that's an archetype?) Yellow Spring Frog is better than this, but w/e, tokens are fun.

Rabbit
to make this perfectly clear goats r a minus 1 unless you have meta because goats can gain no adv the only other reason it can be a 1 for 1 or better is if your opponent was gonna take a card ou of your hand or somethin

[Beast of Gilfer]

Wait, what set is Dandelion being released in? I see combos with Chain Insect. And I can run more Tributes now! HEHE. Uria, meet you new friend. Gran Maju Da Eiza, Tyranno Infinity, lets party even more!

No set, Dandelion is a V-Jump magazine promo.

[jonouchiboy]

Holy cow................ i hope it comes out soon...

[Sasuke Uchiha]

No set, Dandelion is a V-Jump magazine promo.

Great. Now I have to go and find a v-jump magazine with Dandelion in it. God only knows how long until we get it in a Shonen Jump as a promo, or something.

This is what I get for not playing the OCG for a whole year.

[Beast of Gilfer]

Great. Now I have to go and find a v-jump magazine with Dandelion in it. God only knows how long until we get it in a Shonen Jump as a promo, or something.

This is what I get for not playing the OCG for a whole year.

Hahaha, yea the likely chance is the TCG will never see this card, just like I will never get to play my Marshmallon.:(

[Sasuke Uchiha]

Hahaha, yea the likely chance is the TCG will never see this card, just like I will never get to play my Marshmallon.:(

Well, marshmellon is a great possibility. Just like Dandelion. But remember Blue-Eyes? Or Cyber-Stien? Stick those cards into their difficult situations.

Post number 501 feels just as great as post number 500.:D

[Beast of Gilfer]

Well, marshmellon is a great possibility. Just like Dandelion. But remember Blue-Eyes? Or Cyber-Stien? Stick those cards into their difficult situations.

Post number 501 feels just as great as post number 500.:D

Not quit since Marshmallon was released in a Premium Pack it has an extremely low chance of being released. Cyberstein was released in both Series 11 and Dark Beginnings 2. Even though Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon was released in a premium pack it was also released in Kaiba Structure Deck 1. I guess we could see Dandelion as a Sneak Peek Promo but the rate it's going it won't be for 10 years.