darksteel deck please r/f

[The Chickens Revenge]

Why is it called a thread now? Was new topic not cool enough?
What this deck to be changed from casual to tourney worthy.

Why did the website change? I liked the old place better.
I hope you all had fun at the prerelease. I went to the one in London. It was great!

Please excuse spelling and r/f

This deck is for standard

Creatures (6)
2 Arcbound Ravager
2 Arcbound Slith
2 Darksteel Gargoyle

Non-creature Artifacts (6)
4 Worldslayer
2 Whispersilk Cloak
4 isocron specter

Spells (24)
4 WOG
4 Boomerang
4 Ritual Of Restoration
2 nourish
4 mana leak

please suggest 6 more good spells (stalling cards?)

Lands (24)
4 clouldpost
12 Urza lands (four of each)
4 blue artifact lands
4 white artifact lands

total= 60

thx

[Chrisodeo]

What is the deck designed to do? I see Worldslayer and WoG, so it looks like it's designed around big effects. Very expensive, so I'd remove some of them for less-costly stuff. Secondly, you have 24 lands. That's way more than normal. With the current cycle of mana-accelerating artifacts, you don't even need 20. Most Type II decks run between 16 and 18. You've got the Urza lands down, but only four coloured lands. With only four sources of colour in the deck, and no way of filtering, you'll likely end up not getting the type you need for quite a long time. I'd say throw out the Nourishes, WoGs, Rituals, Cloudposts, and artifact lands, and add in some good low-cost blue instants and 8 Islands.

As for good spells, Rewind is good, as is Wizard Replica. Since most of your deck is over 3 mana, Trinisphere throws other decks way off. Chrome Mox is an uber mana-fixer, and since this is a big hitting deck, Gilded Lotus also helps out. There's the basic fixes.

[SoldierOfFortune187]

Weathered Wayfarer... Solemn Simulacrum... Reap and Sow... Sylvan Scrying...

Basically, with the assortment of unusual lands needed to make this deck work, try tossing something in that can fetch them.

[The Chickens Revenge]

What is it disigned to do? do u not know about industructible cards? Worldslayer+ Darksteel gargole = mass distruction and me winning. Darksteel cards are industructible. Wog is too much but I need lands for Gargole and worldsalyer and I want to stall them untill I have enough lands. U should cheak up on the Darksteel set.

[The Chickens Revenge]

good advice SoldierOfFortune187. Thx :)

[Urza]

Very fun and original deck.

How about replacing the Cloudposts with Darksteel Citadels? They are Indestructible and provide you the option to tap for colored mana. I believe they would provide you with fantastic board advantage after Worldslayer goes off. I don't think the Cloudposts are needed since you have Urzatron.

[Chrisodeo]

I know what Indestructible cards do. Problem is, you only have 2 Gargoyles, and that's it. Ever hear of Shield of Kaldra? Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer? Darksteel Brute, or even the Colossus? Besides, since it has evasion you won't even need to wog, unless they've got a bigger flier (Darn Pristine Angels...). I can see the purpose of the arcbounds, but if you're doing that you need the Crusher. The Ravager may get bigger faster, but the Crusher is the one that makes the opponent do a double-take. It may start off a Slith Predator for twice the mana, but it gets very bad very easily. Another thing that's quite useful in a deck that makes so much mana is an X spell. Instead of fiddling around with Boomerang and Mana Leak, you should test out Fireball and Flamebreak. Try putting in some Moxen and Mountains, Gilded Lotus and Darksteel Ingot. You wouldn't need to mess with putting a round block into a square hole. (I.E., blue just doesn't work well with Indestructibility.)

Though, I do apologize for not seeing the purpose of the deck. I just totally did a flyby on that.

Finally, if you do go r/w, Obliterate absolutely dominates with Indestructibility.

[Edit: Argh, I hate doing this, but Urza: Darksteel Citadel makes colourless mana, not mana of any colour. City of Brass is still strictly better.]

[The Chickens Revenge]

Thats some good advice Urza thanks
I have made changes to the deck based on your sugestions.
Well some of them.

Still needs changes I think. The reginal are in may (in England) and I would love to enter with a deck like this I think it would be really fun.

Do you think I will get the mana quick enough to play this deck.


Remeber this deck is for standard

Creatures (8)
2 Arcbound Ravager
2 Arcbound Slith
4 Darksteel Gargoyle

Non-creature Artifacts (16)
4 Worldslayer
4 isocron specter
4 Darksteel ignot
4 Talismans (any kind doesn't matter)

Spells (16)
4 Boomerang
4 mana leak
4 fabricate
4 remove soul


Lands (20)
4 Darksteel Citadels
12 Urza lands (four of each)
4 blue artifact lands

total= 60

thx

[Halls of Death]

Sry man, but this is no way regionals material. You won't get out the mana fast and reliably enough. Sure, there is potential for a turn 3 gargoyle but what are the chances? Also, why run the ravager? What are you gonna sac that you don'y need. Also, sure the scepter is good, but when will you have 2 (not 500) mana free to use it? This deck is screaming BURN ME BABY! Do not interpret this as a flame, I like to think of it as a constructive critcism. Oh ya, I think you should run a darksteel reactor deck BEN, I found a great combo with it ;) .

[darkone]

maybe darsteel brute and chrome mox

[AKA:Battousai]

darksteel reacter is a very good card and works wonders in a stall deck especially land destruction Red/Blue stall with dismantale to double the reacter there are plenty of double destroyers like demolish and shatter for artifact lands of your opponents march of the machines will kill all your opponents artifact lands and with this new darksteel creature I think its some little 1/1 for 3 and can tap to make target land an artifact until end of turn. anyways hey hello its me again Roaming Gnome

answers to problems need more mana, use viridian joiner with the emperial plate we all know how long something like this can stay in play. Some people will seriously ignore this in more cases since they are so glad it's not a spikeshot he looks weak. it will be worth the mana you use to play him/it if your opponents are usin indestructable creatures too the best thing I've seen other than white is Sword of kaldra eventually he'll have to block this.

for faster mana talismans and or elvish guidance before I get booed out of this forum sit and think of what people see more as a threat, a land that is a slower version of gaea's cradle for this deck at least. or a joiner with some timberwatches out. They will in most cases hit the timberwatch or fodder as I like to call them because I don't know how many times people have wasted burn spells on these guys forgetting completely that they can target themselves and save themselves making this very bad against anything not blue or black. Red can still deal with them don't get me wrong shock as a response or yada yada yada. and even though its kinda sneaky if you keep your lands over the one with the enchantment on it theres a less likely chance of it dying lol trust me I miss em all the time during our games. and usually end up regretting it. And most nongreen decks have kinda switched from hating enchantments to fearing artifacts so green is still an enemy but not really. anyway if this helps at all I'm glad, I just think elves are still underated for type II. This, coming from someone who hates green

[The Chickens Revenge]

I plan to stall them untill I get the mana needed. I agree that I need to get mana quicker any suggestins? I didn't say I wanted to run this deck I said I wanted to run a deck like this. I didn't want people to say it would not work I wanted people to help improve it (Rob). I sould get rid of the arcbound creatures they are not needed. Any suggestions what to replace them with?
viridian joiner with the emperial plate will use up too many turns worth of mana when I could be using the counter spell.

When will i have free mana? before I do the gargole combo and after with the industructible lands.

Please help with more suggestions

[Halls of Death]

Add in a Bridge, it'll stall them until they draw something to destroy it with...

[The Chickens Revenge]

Actually The scepters wont help much because I will be using mana for talismans. Sorry. This deck needs to be faster. Please help I acn't think of what to add.

[The Chickens Revenge]

The bridge won't help because I need to attack. Unless I put something to destroy the bridge later. Of couse boomerang. Then I should keep the sceptor in?

[Halls of Death]

well then I'djust have to say that everything is too expensive for the standard format at the moment. I think that there will be lots of affinity running around so expensive cards like worldslayer and gargoyle are out.