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GeneralZorpa
01-04-2006, 11:35 AM
Yeah this thread's about Vampire Lord. I love this guy. Recursion with a deck destruction effect and searchability due to Pyramid Turtle. The whole problem with the tribute is a drawback but not so much. I can remember in my meta when everyone ran V-Lord and then Cyber Dragon reared it's ugly head. The metal beast completely destroyed any need for the beloved Lord and the abuse of the Sacred Phoenix of Nepthys put him out of a job. ANy thoughts on this card and any place that it could fit outside of a zombie deck?

wertalace
01-04-2006, 11:39 AM
Yeah this thread's about Vampire Lord. I love this guy. Recursion with a deck destruction effect and searchability due to Pyramid Turtle. The whole problem with the tribute is a drawback but not so much. I can remember in my meta when everyone ran V-Lord and then Cyber Dragon reared it's ugly head. The metal beast completely destroyed any need for the beloved Lord and the abuse of the Sacred Phoenix of Nepthys put him out of a job. ANy thoughts on this card and any place that it could fit outside of a zombie deck?

Pot of Avarice.

3 Turtle
2-3 Rat
3 Nimble
2 Vampire Lord

2 Creature Swap
2 Pot of Avarice

GmfG

as much as people hate to say it V-Lord ***** this meta. TOO many people rely on Saku's and Widespreads to protect their monsters. V-Lord takes those and shoves 'em right back up their ass.

thucom
01-04-2006, 11:51 AM
as much as people hate to say it V-Lord ***** this meta. TOO many people rely on Saku's and Widespreads to protect their monsters. V-Lord takes those and shoves 'em right back up their ass.
yeah even rocks in traditional to be honest
only thing it has to really worry about is being RFGd and beat up
dont forget smashing ground either
only thing that worries me when Im using it and they ACTUALLY use a trap hole/sakarestu/dark hole is that they might throw a OTK that turn

wertalace
01-04-2006, 11:59 AM
yeah even rocks in traditional to be honest
only thing it has to really worry about is being RFGd and beat up
dont forget smashing ground either
only thing that worries me when Im using it and they ACTUALLY use a trap hole/sakarestu/dark hole is that they might throw a OTK that turn


Just Run DDSurvivor and some extra removal crap. I mean them using trap hole/Saku/WSR/Smashing on ANY monster leaves you open for an OTK, at least this way that monster comes back =/

Darkriku3
01-04-2006, 12:40 PM
V-lord suffers from the fact he isn't that good, his deck devastation is HORRIBLE (opponent controlled effects always are, they will just search out something they DON'T need, or, if your dumb and pick monsters, they'll put a fat monster in the grave and premature it)
has been outclassed in revival by Pheonix, and is very weak statiscally (can be either killed, or destroyed by the likes of D.D warrior lady/assailant/warrior, or simply overpowered/evened by berserk, goblin/elite/attack force, zombray, Cyber dragon, and quite a few others) not to mention he is easy as crap to get rid of.. and he doesn't come back right away and that can be taken advantage of....

overall the opponent is NOT going to waste removal on him, and will just wait for some strong monster or RFG card.. or Snatch, or brain control..
belive me, he is overrated it almost all sense of the word.

edit* ill list some cards that are commonly played that really hurt him

Despair from the dark (gets his effect if you target despair when he attacks you.. but this isn't likely to happen)
snatch steal
brain controller
DDA
DDWL
DDW
Cyber dragon
Berserk gorrilla
steamroid ( you may laugh, but i've seen it used alot lately)
bottomless trap hole (at any time other than a pyrimid summon)
Dark world's goldd and sillva (I use these.. I know how bad it makes V-lord look too)
Dark core
Goblin elite
Goblin
Gaint orc (?? who uses this? weird people with out elites)
Zombraya

there are more, I am SURE, I just can't recall....
oh and Dark ruler, while also out-classing him in attack (and just about ever single tribute monster played now) is also not able to be beaten by MORE than half of these cards, such as all the monsters here, (the dda's are negated if they ram into him) and none of them are strong enough to kill him, sans a Bazoo, why people don't run him more often is beyond me.

mech-hound
01-04-2006, 03:41 PM
Vampire Lord Pawns this meta...here's why...

Monsters 17

1 Exiled Forcce
1 Breaker
1 Morphing Jar
1 Sangan
1 Des Lacooda
2 Rat
2 Drilloid
2 Spirit REaper
3 Pyramid Turtle
3 Vampire Lord

Spells 11

1 Snatch
1 Preme
1 Dark Hole
1 MST
1 Heavy
1 BoM
1 Noblemen of Xout
1 SORL
1 Vortex
2 Book of LIfe

Traps 14

1 CoTH
1 Widespread Ruin
2 Dust
2 Solemn
3 BTH
3 Sakuretsu Armor

xxbyexx
01-04-2006, 03:47 PM
i say he is good but to deck depended u will wast 2 many cards to get him like ramming turtle is they only why he is worth it but then u will burn 2-3 cards to fetch him and they go ok cyber attack haha

Yata one
01-05-2006, 04:32 PM
Awwwww, come on, cut him some slack, Vampire Lord isn't that bad if you build your deck around him. I actually tried running 2 Rush recklessly/mirror wall, works qutie nicely, it's the DDA that gives trouble now, attack into the facedown, O, it's a DDA, dang. He's still good, no doubt about that, coz of the Sakssss and Smashing Groundsss running around.

QuoteMe
01-05-2006, 04:47 PM
I wouldn't use him outside of Zombies anyways. There are many
monsters strong enough to take him to the grave and leave him
there whether he returns later or not.

thucom
01-05-2006, 05:49 PM
my traditional deck usually use him to alpha strike, I mean go in and attempt to set off as many leathal traps as possible, people dont generally like having to choos a card to send to the graveyard.

Dynasty
01-06-2006, 08:34 AM
I used to run 3 then cut down my tributes andd now run 3 kokki 2 lord and 1 airknight also brain control and max pyramaid turtles , v-lord is not a staple in zombies but he is one of the best up to this point zombie cards created zombie masters can use and abuse 2 or 3 a great card but like all cards is not perfect but has ups and downs.

ebonstorms
01-06-2006, 09:02 AM
if your going put v-lord in a deck and get him out using turtles...use ryu kokki instead...at least he can run over few monsters like cyber dragons, gaf, geaf.

I played a deck with v-lord...i got wasted so bad and when i did get to use his effect...they took out crap from their deck and it helped them get the cards they really needed.

DeathJester
01-06-2006, 09:48 AM
Vampire Lord doesn't get permanantly eliminated by Saks, Wides, and Smashings. Those are cards that are ran in 3s these days. He makes those cards dead or into 1 for 0s.

Ryu Kokki can run over stuff, but he dies much faster than V.Lord does.

TheDarkVampire
01-06-2006, 10:57 AM
WHAT!!!
im the lord of vampires !!!

vamp and kokki is good better with the tutrtles effect and much better with spon

ChaosNinja12
01-06-2006, 11:07 AM
The thing that makes me mad is that Vampire Lord is still really good but no one has the guts to play it.

Everyone says that he is no good because of Cyber Dragon and D.D. Assailant. Newsflash...Assailant was around last format and he was still played. Cyber Dragon is no reason to not play this guy. His recursion ability is just to good with all the Sak/Wide being played.

His other ability is something you have to be smart with. You'll need to decide what card to choose by knowing how your opponents deck is played. That's just something you have to be skilled with.

All in all, I wish more people would play him. He's got some great abilities and just because one card is played by everyone, doesn't mean that we shouldn't play certain cards.

Try him out and you'll be surprised.

Darkriku3
01-06-2006, 11:34 AM
The thing that makes me mad is that Vampire Lord is still really good but no one has the guts to play it.

Everyone says that he is no good because of Cyber Dragon and D.D. Assailant. Newsflash...Assailant was around last format and he was still played. Cyber Dragon is no reason to not play this guy. His recursion ability is just to good with all the Sak/Wide being played.

His other ability is something you have to be smart with. You'll need to decide what card to choose by knowing how your opponents deck is played. That's just something you have to be skilled with.

All in all, I wish more people would play him. He's got some great abilities and just because one card is played by everyone, doesn't mean that we shouldn't play certain cards.

Try him out and you'll be surprised.



his ability is sub-par now at best, you people somehow think that I am going to waste my sakuretsu armor on your v-lord, or my smashing.. your dead wrong.
no one (other than an idiot) would waste they're resource's on a v-lord. they would just wait till they had a BTH and kill it, wait for its recursion to kick in, and BTH it.. or just wait for.. I dunno

Berserk gorrila
GAF/GEAF/giant orc
cyber dragon
DDA
DDWL
DDW
Dark core
Snatch steal
Soul exchange
Dark ruler Ha des
Dark world's sillva and goldd
the list goes on and on, really he is a meager recursion card that rarely gets his effect off, stop blabing like its the king of friggin yugioh or something, its saddening.

mech-hound
01-06-2006, 04:37 PM
The thing that makes me mad is that Vampire Lord is still really good but no one has the guts to play it.

I'm guessing I don't count...

thucom
01-06-2006, 05:58 PM
you do realize that when you defend Vamp lord with Sak armor and widespread and BTH ruin the majority of those cards suddenly dont kill vamp lord

mech-hound
01-06-2006, 06:04 PM
you do realize that when you defend Vamp lord with Sak armor and widespread ruin the majority of those cards suddenly dont kill vamp lord and dont forget BTH :p

BTH can't kill em if you get em wth turtle...hs ha...

mech-hound
01-06-2006, 06:05 PM
you do realize that when you defend Vamp lord with Sak armor and widespread ruin the majority of those cards suddenly dont kill vamp lord and dont forget BTH :p

BTH can't kill em if you get em wth turtle...ha ha ha ha...

thucom
01-06-2006, 06:09 PM
BTH can't kill em if you get em wth turtle...ha ha ha ha...
maybe I was a bit confusing, I think I fixed it

my point was more along the lines of:
One card by itself is weak and fragile without support usually, dont think Im going to leave Vamp lord alone

The PumpKin King
01-06-2006, 06:15 PM
Vamp Lord Is My Favorite Card And I Like To Use It In My Zombie/Phoenix Deck

~P.K~

ZGMF-X09A
01-06-2006, 06:28 PM
He is the Pimp of my Zombie deck. Agreed it is sad so few people have no guts to play him...

mech-hound
01-06-2006, 06:35 PM
He is the Pimp of my Zombie deck. Agreed it is sad so few people have no guts to play him...

Rock on...