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gogoV
01-04-2006, 12:37 AM
we all know that MYSTIC BOX is coming out so i was thinking. will the AMEBA deck with MYSTIC BOX and creature swap will be good. what else should i put in it. plz help me

localghost
01-04-2006, 06:18 AM
we all know that MYSTIC BOX is coming out so i was thinking. will the AMEBA deck with MYSTIC BOX and creature swap will be good. what else should i put in it. plz help me

Shien's Spy.

Black-Canary
01-04-2006, 12:19 PM
mother grizzly, Pot of avarice, monster recovery, penguin soldier (ameba must be returned to work again)?

Wildfire
01-04-2006, 12:22 PM
Go with black canary's suggestions. Don't use Sheins Spy unless you have too though, Sheins spy sucks.

nicholascobalt
01-04-2006, 12:26 PM
Things some people might not realize are good for a deck like this would include Shallow Grave, Last Will, and Abyss Soldier... Shallow Grave will give you somethign to swap/destroy if your opponent is out of monsters... and Abyss Soldier is the bounce version of BLS.

wertalace
01-04-2006, 12:42 PM
Trust me, i've already got my build for an Amoeba control dek xD

3 Amoeba
3 Mother Grizzly
3 Spirit Reaper
3 Nimble Momonga
1 Sangan
2 Penguin Soldier

2 Creature Swap
3 Sheins Spy
3 Mystic Box
2 LLAb
2 Salvage
1 Book of Moon
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Premature Burial
1 Heavy Storm
1 Snatch Steal

1 Call of the Haunted
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Dust Tornado
3 Sakuretsu Armor

localghost
01-04-2006, 01:23 PM
Trust me, i've already got my build for an Amoeba control dek xD

3 Amoeba
3 Mother Grizzly
3 Spirit Reaper
3 Nimble Momonga
1 Sangan
2 Penguin Soldier

2 Creature Swap
3 Sheins Spy
3 Mystic Box
2 LLAb
2 Salvage
1 Book of Moon
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Premature Burial
1 Heavy Storm
1 Snatch Steal

1 Call of the Haunted
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Dust Tornado
3 Sakuretsu Armor


ZOMFG! J00 nooB!111!shift+1 Shien's Spy suX0rZ!111Lawl. >.>

Anyhoo, I think I saw a dandy Ameba Burn deck somwhere on the forums. -goes off and searches-

http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=229756 < Courtesy of jaxx.

wertalace
01-04-2006, 01:24 PM
ZOMFG! J00 nooB!111!shift+1 Shien's Spy suX0rZ!111Lawl. >.>

Anyhoo, I think I saw a dandy Ameba Burn deck somwhere on the forums. -goes off and searches-

http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=229756 < Courtesy of jaxx.

Jaxx = Teh n00bz0rz. :p I've had this deck saved on my computer for 3 months now =/

localghost
01-04-2006, 01:29 PM
Jaxx = Teh n00bz0rz. :p I've had this deck saved on my computer for 3 months now =/

Meh, I playtested this against some kid on YVD. Hilarity ensued. :p

Me: "I'll play Shien'S Spy and swap over Ameba. That's game btw."
Him: "******* you."

xD

wertalace
01-04-2006, 01:30 PM
Meh, I playtested this against some kid on YVD. Hilarity ensued. :p

Me: "I'll play Shien'S Spy and swap over Ameba. That's game btw."
Him: "******* you."

xD

Rofl! Poant by teh ameobaz

krazy kilroy
01-04-2006, 01:40 PM
was mystic box ever restricted in Japan? because with 3 boxes and 2 swaps, there are tons of possibilities.

Merovingian
01-04-2006, 02:00 PM
Why not use Compulsory Evacuation Device instead of Sakurestu Armor. That way, you switch Ameba over, and then put it back in your hand to do over again. Plus, CED is chainable.

Also, why Nimble Momonga instead of Giant Germ?

wertalace
01-04-2006, 02:05 PM
Why not use Compulsory Evacuation Device instead of Sakurestu Armor. That way, you switch Ameba over, and then put it back in your hand to do over again. Plus, CED is chainable.

Also, why Nimble Momonga instead of Giant Germ?

Well with shein's spy Amoeba does come back to you...meaning you'd take damage (I think gotta go look at Amoeba's exact text) and Nimbles go F/d which is Hott.

EDIT: I was wrong, it won't do damage to you. But Nimbles are still hott xD

dkates
01-04-2006, 10:07 PM
I've also got a version of this deck idea. You can look up the precise list in my deck gallery (link in the signature), but the biggest difference between my version and wertalace's is that I also use Giant Kozaky, and I don't use Shien's Spies. Since Mystic Box and Creature Swap don't care about whether the monster you give up is faceup or facedown (Shien's Spy is faceup only), I can give my opponent either a faceup Ameba (which I can then run over for a little more damage, depending on circumstances) or a facedown Giant Kozaky (which I then flip faceup with BoT, SoRL, Ceasefire, or an attack). So far in my testing (which, admittedly, hasn't been much yet), the deck seems decently consistent, although it is prone to the occasional horrible hand.

`Phenom
01-04-2006, 10:24 PM
You could also use Griggle. Swap it to gain 3000 LP

dkates
01-04-2006, 10:33 PM
Yes, you can -- but why? Ameba and Giant Kozaky are quite enough. While Griggle gives you a larger LP advantage, that advantage will disappear quite quickly unless you can protect yourself -- and sometimes, even if you can.

n2thez
01-04-2006, 11:05 PM
whats mystic box do?

nicholascobalt
01-04-2006, 11:06 PM
whats mystic box do?
Destroy One opponents monster and your opponent gains control of a monster on your side of the field.

Capajoe
01-05-2006, 02:04 PM
Actually you can destroy ANY monster (your included) :/.

Lipid Inpachi
01-05-2006, 06:53 PM
Wertalace, have you considered Tsukuyomi? It's could to flip Ameba down so it's effect resets and you can re-use it. You have the stall to support it's protection.

Merovingian
02-01-2006, 02:52 PM
Has anyone tried and tested one of these decks out, I am thinking of using one competitively.

Does Giant Kozaky help?
How much defensive cards do you need? (LLAB, Bind, MoP, Swords, Saku, CED, etc).

I'll try hammering one out tonight

lordjar
02-01-2006, 05:26 PM
this is old news.

Other great Comboes with Shiens Spy/Mystic Box/Creature Swap is giving control of a Koitsu you pulled out of the deck the previous turn with a Mother Grizzly and attacking it with a KA-2 Des Scissors for 5800 points of damage plus other monsters attacks.

It is a pretty snazzy combo indeed.

Spoontang made this deck infamous

:::Machinations of Pain: Death by Pinprick:::
by Spoontang 11/28/05

Monsters: 17

1x Jinzo
2x Needle Burrower
2x Giant Kozaky
2x KA-2 Des Scissors
3x Mother Grizzly
2x Ameba
2x Koitsu
1x Breaker the Magical Warrior
1x Sangan
1x Magician of Faith

Spells: 19

1x Dark Hole
1x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Heavy Storm
1x Snatch Steal
1x Premature Burial
1x Nobleman of Crossout
1x Book of Moon
1x Swords of Revealing Light
2x Enemy Controller
2x Rush Recklessly
2x The Shallow Grave
2x Creature Swap
3x Mystic Box

Traps: 6

1x Call of the Haunted
1x Torrential Tribute
1x Ceasefire
3x Blast with Chain

Total: 42

Actually you can destroy ANY monster (your included) :/.
Actually, that statement is incorrect.

Mystic Box
Normal Spell

Select 1 monster on each side of the field. Destroy the selected opponent's monster and shift control of your selected monster to your opponent.