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Cardplayer27
12-30-2005, 06:16 PM
What can you do to stop/stall a Exchange of Spirits OTK or FTK Deck?

In Traditional, EoS FTK is like Scientist FTK, where you're basically screwed.

But, In Adv., There is still a chance to pull off the Cyber End or Benkai OTK for a win before losing.

Any Suggestion?

topspin1617
12-30-2005, 06:18 PM
If they are actually able to pull off the FTK, there's not much you can do.

When the Spellcaster structure comes out, sidedeck that Magical Blast or whatever. You know, the spell you can take from the graveyard by skipping the draw phase.

XxCyberDragonxX
12-30-2005, 06:19 PM
Just curious but what is the Exchange of the spirits FTK? or OTK?

Piroko
12-30-2005, 06:21 PM
Use of Exchange of the Spirits on either the first turn, or a later turn to deck the opponent out when they have no Graveyard.

XxCyberDragonxX
12-30-2005, 06:25 PM
not bad not bad

there is an easy way to stall well erm... its coming to me

wait a second

if u start set offerings to the doomed and prey u have 2 more in ur hadn or something
or else i suppose ur screwed hmmm damn thinking is giving me a headache

i think i will make a OTK exchange of the spirit deck now lol

Cardplayer27
12-30-2005, 06:28 PM
If they are actually able to pull off the FTK, there's not much you can do.

When the Spellcaster structure comes out, sidedeck that Magical Blast or whatever. You know, the spell you can take from the graveyard by skipping the draw phase.

whoa, I never thought of that. :D

One-Winged Angel
12-30-2005, 06:31 PM
Side deck some Outstanding Dog Maron's They'll be able to keep you alive for as many turns as you can send them to the graveyard. But when SD6 comes out, the Magical Blast could be even better.

judgeman
12-30-2005, 08:24 PM
penguin knight will own eots quite nicely.

Piroko
12-30-2005, 08:27 PM
It would if Exchange of the Spirits sent it to the Graveyard.

ShadowID
12-30-2005, 08:30 PM
1 Penguin Knight and 3 Reload in your sidedeck.

Penguin Knight: When this card is sent directly from your Deck to the Graveyard by an opponent's card effect, combine your Graveyard cards with your own Deck, shuffle them and form a new deck.

Aqua/Effect Atk/900 Def/800

MRL-001 Common. Good luck finding it. I bought all of em! Muahaha. Just kidding.

judgeman
12-30-2005, 08:31 PM
of course theres the chance u will draw it where it wont help, but theres no 100% sure fire counter for any card.

Cardplayer27
12-30-2005, 08:37 PM
1 Penguin Knight and 3 Reload in your sidedeck.

Penguin Knight: When this card is sent directly from your Deck to the Graveyard by an opponent's card effect, combine your Graveyard cards with your own Deck, shuffle them and form a new deck.

Aqua/Effect Atk/900 Def/800

MRL-001 Common. Good luck finding it. I bought all of em! Muahaha. Just kidding.


Penguin Knight doesnt work, I checked it.

With Exchange of Spirits, your basically swaping your Grave with your deck. no sending done.

ShadowID
12-30-2005, 08:45 PM
Penguin Knight doesnt work, I checked it.

With Exchange of Spirits, your basically swaping your Grave with your deck. no sending done.


Really? Let me check.

Aw dammit. Sorry for the misinformation. Now I have to figure out a better side deck for exchange. Thanks for the correction.

nicholascobalt
12-30-2005, 09:16 PM
Is it just me... or are all of these really really bad cards? I mean, even if you have 3 really weak dogs left in your deck, sure, your not gonna deck out, but you have this one starred little piece of dog, and your not gonna win anyways.

To beat exchange of Spirit, use that Magicians Blast... and that tomi frog that special summons itself if you have no spell/trap cards and no monsters during your standby phase... um, try siding exchange of spirit against it as well I suppose, right the wrong >.<

fusion duelist
12-30-2005, 11:24 PM
EotS is a trap card, so use Royal Decree, jinzo, or even seven tools of the bandit(insert random anti-trap card here)

XxCyberDragonxX
12-30-2005, 11:26 PM
if ur opponet starts and they set exchange nad have the 15 cards in there graveyard

u wont get a chance to destroy it

cuz it will acctivate on the begining of ur turn and ur basically screwed

Piroko
12-31-2005, 01:27 AM
cuz it will acctivate on the begining of ur turn and ur basically screwed

This is almost right.

The beginning of your turn is the Draw Phase, where no card, except for maybe Drop Off and anything else specified, can be activated. This includes Exchange of the Spirits. As a result, you cannot deck them out if you were to go first, set Exchange of the Spirits. The earliest you can do that is in the Standby Phase, which requires you to wait another turn to deck them out.

santathugs
12-31-2005, 05:17 PM
if u have spell canceller out b4 they get their otk, u win

judgeman
12-31-2005, 05:23 PM
yes that leaves them one turn to deal 7000 damage with 6 cards. maybe if ur really unlucky and they are running cyberstein and happened to have what they needed, or they have a god hand with like premature burial a strong monster and some equips they can still beat u, but chances are youve still won.

Piroko
12-31-2005, 05:41 PM
if u have spell canceller out b4 they get their otk, u win

How? Spell Canceller doesn't affect Exchange of the Spirits at all.

x TaCo x
12-31-2005, 05:56 PM
and if you live to another turn you could magically get a phoenix out and metamorphesis to get cyber twin and united we stand and mage power or sum other miracle and make a comeback. lol probably would never happen. thats my imagination because no1 around here even plays EotS. not even at the regional did i see one.

santathugs
12-31-2005, 08:01 PM
How? Spell Canceller doesn't affect Exchange of the Spirits at all.

well they cant activate their spell cards that let them draw or dump into graveyard

Dacar70
12-31-2005, 08:53 PM
yes it does works if its still in the deck.

Game_Boy87
12-31-2005, 08:57 PM
This is a deck that is easily picked up on once you know what your opponet is doing. Side in any counter traps to stop it, or beat them before they can get it off.

SOUL_LESS
12-31-2005, 09:05 PM
The Exchange of Spirit deck is IMPOSSIBLE to run. I think i've only won with mine twice.

ZGMF-X09A
01-01-2006, 12:19 AM
Try Fiend Comedian. The best card in an Exchange Deck, and the best card against them.

Pacman
01-01-2006, 12:26 AM
Penguin Knight does not work with Exchange of Spirits.

:)

INSANITY
01-01-2006, 02:52 AM
with M. the Destructor banned, it's really hard to pull off the combo, but i think in advance, even with M. the Destructor it will be difficult to pull off.

going second the first match dosen't help you. You still have to win the second duel, but you will be second for the ultime match,so...

and this is the only deck that you can play alone and see how many duel you win when you go first, you need to be perfect.

in trad. with pot, charity, painful, this deck is perfect :)

Piroko
01-01-2006, 08:44 AM
Try Fiend Comedian. The best card in an Exchange Deck, and the best card against them.

Exchange of the Spirits is meant to pull it off first turn. Since Fiend Comedian is a Trap, it doesn't make it first turn, unless you meant to make it an OTK instead.

AcidBurn
01-01-2006, 01:15 PM
Okay I play a FTK Exchange deck what you need is a Trap jammer a Seven tools and some recyles they are your best bet next to using a Dark world deck and just countinuosly dump into the Graveyard also some Soul release with a Bgburn might just workk if you don't mind losing your gravyard that is

AcidBurn
01-01-2006, 01:17 PM
with M. the Destructor banned, it's really hard to pull off the combo, but i think in advance, even with M. the Destructor it will be difficult to pull off.

going second the first match dosen't help you. You still have to win the second duel, but you will be second for the ultime match,so...

and this is the only deck that you can play alone and see how many duel you win when you go first, you need to be perfect.

in trad. with pot, charity, painful, this deck is perfect :)
Sorry for the Double post but use reasoning win a deck with only 3 Cats of ill omen as every monster in your deck and if it kills your oppnent during his draw phase it is still an FTK since he can't stop it

Shadow_master
01-01-2006, 04:51 PM
perfect solution for anti exchange of spirit you just side deck 3x outstaning dog maron and 3x Pot of avarice then the only thing you have to do is too kill your oponent

Exchange of spirit otk Magical Merchant, Resoning...

ZGMF-X09A
01-01-2006, 07:08 PM
Exchange of the Spirits is meant to pull it off first turn. Since Fiend Comedian is a Trap, it doesn't make it first turn, unless you meant to make it an OTK instead.

He is asking for stopping of Exchange. I gave him one (Fiend Comedian - You chain it sucessfully with the right call, you win. If not, you will just has more cards in your deck then your opponent.). And what are the chances of seeing Exchange being an FTK in the current TCG format/banlist?