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MelosWoodlanders
12-28-2005, 02:02 PM
Hello everyone,
I've been think about a rather rarely played card known as "Blast with Chain". Lately, I've been seeing tons of players using "Sakuretsu Armor", "Bottomless Trap Hole", and "Widespread Ruin" so I thought of some other cards that you can use instead. "Blast with Chain" came to mind.
Blast with Chain
Normal Trap
After activation, this card is treated as an Equip Card that increases the ATK of the equipped monster by 500 points. Equip a monster on your side of the field with this card. If this card is destroyed by the effect of another card while it is an Equip Card, select 1 card on the field and destroy it.
As you can see, "Blast with Chain" might turn out to be a replacement for some of those cards. You can chain it when a "Mobius the Frost Monarch" pops onto the field and thus kill the "Mobius the Frost Monarch" which "Sakuretsu Armor" and "Widespread Ruin" would not be able to. If your opponent Special Summons a "Cyber Dragon", you can play this card in the Battle Phase when your opponent attacks. 500 ATK boost is pretty good, allowing even "D.D. Assailant" to destroy "Cyber Dragon". Also, your opponent will dislike destroying it with "Dust Tornado", since you can destroy something else.
What do you guys think?
that_guy_over_there
12-28-2005, 02:06 PM
I agree, although there are situations when destoying it could lead to a disadvantage on your part if there are no further cards to destroy on your opponents side. That risk is quite small, however.
I'm in faver of it.
ledgedary
12-28-2005, 02:17 PM
iagree i useit in my warrior deck too
vdraconis
12-28-2005, 02:18 PM
Interesting idea. As a piece of tech, it would be awesome. If it were used in multiples, the main issue in deck construction will be in maintaining consistency between a high monster count to abuse the traps and preventing terrible hands and/or topdecks.
tightsavage4ever
12-28-2005, 02:44 PM
It's a nice card to a lot of deck's, just to counter s/t removal, or to give that extra boost needed to kill something. So yeah, I like the card.
chawzilla
12-28-2005, 03:08 PM
I ran it in the last format when I used multiple dons and suhc....it was great cuz someone would attack my Don or something else with their tribe/broken Breaker etc...damage step Blast w/ chain, they lose their monster and card in hand.
this format I havent run it as much, but seein how it did well in I think germany, I might give it a go again.
kintaro
12-28-2005, 03:11 PM
Yes. the one guy in bremen ran 3. IMO 3 is overkill. Its worse than topdecking a dust. Dust is a horrible topdeck most of the time. We are topdecking a lot. xD
IN GOD WE TRUST
12-28-2005, 03:23 PM
Blast with chain is a good card but, it's also bad. If the monster it's equiped to get killed by smashin or something then blast wont get it's destroying ablity. And we all know thats what we are really looking for. Th power bonus is okie but, we want the kill and if we can't do that then stay away.
"After activation, this card is treated as an Equip Card that increases the ATK of the equipped monster by 500 points. Equip a monster on your side of the field with this card. If this card is destroyed by the effect of another card while it is an Equip Card, select 1 card on the field and destroy it."
BwC can kill Mobius, but you need a faceup monster on your side of the field to work.
With that said, I believe this card to be on par with Rush Recklessly and Mirror Wall. A deck using Hydrogeddons and Don Zaloogs make the best of it. However, these cards are hard to run with DDA still at 3, as that card will take you down anyways.
BwC is nice, but Shrink is leaps and bounds better (if we get it).
team_carnage
12-28-2005, 04:35 PM
Only reason BwC came up is because of that guy who won the german SJC like thing or whatever. He ran 3 BwC and 3 Strike ninja. BwC is a good card, but too situational for me. But, if i didn't have better cards I would definately play with it.
Darkriku3
12-28-2005, 04:40 PM
Oh yea, an equip card you have to wait a WHOLE turn to use, yea, thats just amazing :rolleyes:
really this is exactly why people don't run equips, horrible topdeck, and this takes horrible topdecking to a new level, a card you can't even run until your opps turn.
not to mention there are more trap negators than magic negators....
Melos, nice try.
chawzilla
12-28-2005, 04:45 PM
Oh yea, an equip card you have to wait a WHOLE turn to use, yea, thats just amazing :rolleyes:
really this is exactly why people don't run equips, horrible topdeck, and this takes horrible topdecking to a new level, a card you can't even run until your opps turn.
not to mention there are more trap negators than magic negators....
Melos, nice try.
mmmkay buddy keep thinking that...
how is it terrible topdeck? i have a ninja out you have nothing I atk 1700 set it....you topdeck cyber. i dont remove ninja instead i play blast w/ chain and you lose a cyber.
its not a terrible topdeck at all
Wildfire
12-28-2005, 04:54 PM
Right now I'm going to compare it to rush recklessly, which some people tech.
Blast With Chain
+If chained to s/t removal then you get to kill something.
+Can help to kill big monsters
+Can be a Sakaretsu if you chain to an attack
-Bad topdeck
-Trap, wait turn to use
Rush Recklessly
+Chainable
+Can be a Sakaretsu
+Help you kill stuff on your turn
-Bad Topdeck
Eh, I would probably prefer BWS beacuse it works really well against mobius. But that's just me.
kintaro
12-28-2005, 05:15 PM
works against mobius only if you have a face up monster on your side of the field x_X
DivineVTDragon
12-28-2005, 06:14 PM
Right now I'm going to compare it to rush recklessly, which some people tech.
Blast With Chain
+If chained to s/t removal then you get to kill something.
+Can help to kill big monsters
+Can be a Sakaretsu if you chain to an attack
-Bad topdeck
-Trap, wait turn to use
Rush Recklessly
+Chainable
+Can be a Sakaretsu
+Help you kill stuff on your turn
-Bad Topdeck
Eh, I would probably prefer BWS beacuse it works really well against mobius. But that's just me.
You forgot the +200 advantage over blast with chain, which is a difference between killing a Cyber Dragon or a 1900 Breaker.
mmmkay buddy keep thinking that...
how is it terrible topdeck? i have a ninja out you have nothing I atk 1700 set it....you topdeck cyber. i dont remove ninja instead i play blast w/ chain and you lose a cyber.
its not a terrible topdeck at all
I agree... BWC is a staple in my Beast deck. All those 1700 (or less) attackers. It keeps my Enraged Battle Ox on the field long enough for the gorilla's to do some real damage. After my opponents 1st hand I'll set it as bait and, if they try to kill it, use it to kill of their monsters...... And, if no taker, Cyber is history (see above)......
turkeyspit
12-28-2005, 06:48 PM
I don't see it as being all that good an equip card :confused:
Other then using it as a trap (like Rush Recklessley) I would much prefer to run Murasume Blade (for my Warrior Deck) or Axe of Despair (everyone else).
BwC's effect shouldn't really ever happen, since anyone who knows what it's effect is, will never try to destroy it, but will destroy the monster instead.
And yes I understand the objections against equip cards of all kinds, but I have had alot of success in my Warrior deck with my Murasume Blade (especially when it's equipped to my SSLV5) and have found some nice uses for Wicked Flamberge (most recently, tossing out needed Light/Dark food for my BLS).
Granted in my other decks, I don't run equip cards, but I can't see my Warrior deck being at all successful without them.
ZGMF-X09A
12-28-2005, 08:46 PM
This can be a good tech, provided the opponent runs hell a lot of m/t removals, or you run Gearfried.
mokeymokeyman
12-29-2005, 01:27 AM
blast with chain is amazing. it is anti mobius and it gets rid of that annoying dd survivor when you have dd assailent or dd warior lady ( 1700 or 1500 + 500 > 1800
Mayuga
01-15-2006, 09:23 PM
Blast with Chain is a good card but very situational imo. I playtested it for a bit in my CC deck and it did alrite.
MelosWoodlanders
01-16-2006, 09:34 AM
Interesting feedback guys. I can see "Blast with Chain" working for some people and not working for others. At least it looks like it has a use :D.
eviljay33
01-16-2006, 09:55 AM
BwC was played because of the Mobius-heavy metagame over there in Europe. And teching just one seems too ugly and inconsistent to me. It makes sense to use it in threes or none at all.
PMasterS
01-16-2006, 10:19 AM
BwC was played because of the Mobius-heavy metagame over there in Europe. And teching just one seems too ugly and inconsistent to me. It makes sense to use it in threes or none at all.
Why is it that any time i see someone making a claim based on the european metagame its never someone from europe making it?
Mobius is no heavier here than in North America, th reason it has been used is that one team decided it was a good card and did well with it, as of yet the only people who have used it in a high level tournament have been people on that team, or who have contact with them.
It was mainly to combo with strike ninja, and I'm not gonna explain that because if you don't understand what happens then there's no point.
Warriors of Light
01-16-2006, 10:25 AM
As you can see, "Blast with Chain" might turn out to be a replacement for some of those cards. You can chain it when a "Mobius the Frost Monarch" pops onto the field and thus kill the "Mobius the Frost Monarch"
What do you guys think?
Read the Card, Blast with Chain can only equip to your monster cards not your opponents
Warriors of Light
01-16-2006, 10:26 AM
It was mainly to combo with strike ninja
And the combo with Strike Ninja and Blast With Chain Doesnt work
Daddy Yankee
01-16-2006, 10:30 AM
I think it can be pretty good if it's used right. I personally don't keep it in my deck though. . .
eviljay33
01-16-2006, 10:40 AM
It was mainly to combo with strike ninja, and I'm not gonna explain that because if you don't understand what happens then there's no point.
Is there something I'm missing how BwC combos with Strike Ninja? Please kindly share with us.
MelosWoodlanders
01-16-2006, 11:22 AM
Warriors of Light - Of course I know that. If a "Mobius the Frost Monarch" pops on the field, you can chain "Blast with Chain" on one of your own monsters so it destroys "Mobius the Frost Monarch". Chances are, you'll have a monster on the field to equip it on. If you don't, you'll be screwed anyways if it was a "Sakuretsu Armor".
PMasterS
01-16-2006, 01:08 PM
Is there something I'm missing how BwC combos with Strike Ninja? Please kindly share with us.
Perhaps combo is too strong a word, but basically:
They aren't gonna want to waste a smash on strike so they'll try to attack it to kill it, so you activate BWC in the damage step and equip strike.
Its more of a deck building combo than an actual card combo.
Warriors of Light
01-16-2006, 01:47 PM
Is there something I'm missing how BwC combos with Strike Ninja? Please kindly share with us.
The Combo is to equip strike ninja with blast with chain and then use strike ninjas effect to remove him and then blast with chain kills a card.......but it doesnt work
PMasterS
01-16-2006, 01:52 PM
The Combo is to equip strike ninja with blast with chain and then use strike ninjas effect to remove him and then blast with chain kills a card.......but it doesnt work
That's not the combo, its what i said 1 post up.
Aero-Phoenix
01-16-2006, 05:10 PM
I love Blast With Chain, its one of my favorite trap cards.....Im prolly goina use it for a really long time until Kunai With Chain is released in the TCG~
xxbyexx
01-16-2006, 05:59 PM
blast was use in only one deck and had 2 resons.(a deck with 2 dons) they attack ur don u play plast they lose a card and the second is they play heavy mst mobius u chain it to one of ur monster and kill it
judgeman
01-16-2006, 06:05 PM
i dont care for it myself. Reasons being they can still dust or mst it in ur end phase and u dont get anything, if they destroy it by say mst before summoning anything you get nothing, if you have no face up monster u can use it, book of moon owns it, if they smash ur monster u get nothing, jinzo owns it. Even if you want to use it with don, if they drop a cyber dragon its not gonna help any. It has it uses, but not enough good ones to warrant running it.
Masterbeginner
01-16-2006, 07:39 PM
it's a good card. My cousin uses it in his deck, therefore ive grown to dislike it unless it's on my side.
I teched it in my CC Toolbox deck for a regionals. It helped far more than it hurt as for some reason that build didn't lend itself to topdecking very often. However took it out mainly because I got widespread ruins.
Overall its a great piece of tech, one of the best. However it is alot less consistant than something like bottomless or widespread ruin. Requiring basically a two card combo to pull anything off with it (a monster and BWC itself) makes it less reliable than other cards. At least with Dust Tornado you don't need to have a monster ontop of you topdecking it to activate it. BWC you not only just topdecked a useless card... but then need to survive and draw into a useable monster to work with.
Worst deal though... is when you draw it and all you have on your field is Spirit Reapers. B/c if given a choice on which to keep Reaper wins hands down.
specialhelper
01-16-2006, 07:58 PM
i think its a good card and i am going to use it it my deck
judgeman
01-16-2006, 11:12 PM
playing it on reaper isnt smart, u just lose 2 cards and get no effect.
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