Staples are a metal device that holds paper together.

[Lord of the Bling]

And I'm not going to ban them. This is a skill-based banlist, not a stupid-based one.

I. Forbidden Cards

You cannot use these cards in your Deck, Fusion Deck or Side Deck.

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Call of the Haunted
Card of Safe Return
Change of Heart
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Delinquent Duo
Fiber Jar
Imperial Order
Magical Scientist
Makyura the Destructor
Mirage of Nightmare
Monster Reborn
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Ring of Destruction
Sinister Serpent
The Forceful Sentry
Witch of the Black Forest
Yata-Garasu

II. Limited Cards

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.

Book of Taiyou
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Confiscation
Cyber Jar
Dark Hole
D. D. Warrior Lady
Dark Magician of Chaos
Deck Devastation Virus
Exchange of the Spirit
Exodia the Forbidden One
Graceful Charity
Harpie's Feather Duster
Heavy Storm
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Limiter Removal
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Magician of Faith
Metamorphosis
Mirror Force
Morphing Jar
Mystical Space Typhoon
Nobleman of Crossout
Painful Choice
Raigeki
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Sangan
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand

III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.

Book of Moon
Emergency Provisions
Exiled Force
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Last Turn
Lightning Vortex
Night Assailant
Reinforcement of the Army
Reckless Greed
Reflect Bounder
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Scapegoat
Torrential Tribute
Tsukuyomi
Upstart Goblin

NEW! - The following cards are no longer Semi-Limited: Abyss Soldier, Creature Swap, Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow, Gravity Bind, Level Limit - Area B, Marauding Captain, Manticore of Darkness, Protector of the Sanctuary, Vampire Lord

To start with.

Now, the following arguments are to be considered null and void in this thread:

"You increased the staple-pool!"

So? I don't care. Cards that only work with certain themes that are much, much better than the generic version are the only thing that will stop this, or set rotation.

"You have TOO MUCH mass destruction!"

No I don't. The fact is, cards which have the capacity to destroy multiple targets as easily as one have to be used with care. You wouldn't waste your Dark Hole on a single used Dekoichoi, would you? Well, some would. And those people deserve to lose. Better people deserve to win, and this list will insure that. Not this lucksacking bull**** that goes on now, or, at least, not nearly as much.

And that's about it. But, if you do drop in with those, I'll gladly school you.

[bmxbunnie17]

okay start crying now

Call Of The Huanted notbroken unless someone destroys it first

Card Of Safe Return lol you must have lost to a dark world

Premature Burial hello mst dust heavy moubious kills this card

Harpie heck no way to broken needs to stay ban lol

Rageki read harpie

Painful no does not need to come back unless they ban Chaos Sorserer

Tribe Heck no this need to stay banned

Book Of Moon Heck no needs to stay at one

LTusukioymi H*** ****IN NO this needs 2 stay at one

SPON this needs 2 stay at one too

graity and level limit are find at two burn decks dont need to run rapid

[kEviN21]

okay start crying now

Call Of The Huanted notbroken unless someone destroys it first

Card Of Safe Return lol you must have lost to a dark world

Premature Burial hello mst dust heavy moubious kills this card

Harpie heck no way to broken needs to stay ban lol

Rageki read harpie

Painful no does not need to come back unless they ban Chaos Sorserer

Tribe Heck no this need to stay banned

Book Of Moon Heck no needs to stay at one

LTusukioymi H*** ****IN NO this needs 2 stay at one

SPON this needs 2 stay at one too

graity and level limit are find at two burn decks dont need to run rapid


i gotta admit i agree

[Romancer]

2 Exiled Forces scares me. Exiled Force is the hardest monster removal effect to stop. To my knowledge, there are only two cards in existance that can stop it's effect from going off (Solemn Judgement on it's summoning and Divine Wrath).

I'd say this is the worst choice of the whole list. I ran 2 of them for a while (not knowing it was limited to 1) when I first got my Japanese warrior structure deck, and believe me, it was the most evil and cheap form of removal. Multiple Reinforcements of the Army, multiple Warrior Reborns, multiple Marauding Captains, multiple Warrior Lady of the Wasteland/Giant Rat, multiple Recurscions (Which your list addresses). It was easy to get out a Command Knight and/or Marauding Captain and control the game with that single monster or 2, just by reusing and abusing Exiled Forces.

This is one choice I think you should reconsider. There just aren't enough S/T/ or monster cards that can stop it's effect from going off to let it be at 2 per deck. At least with all the S/T monster removers, there are options.

PS (J/K): Staples can also be plastic devices that hold a person's stomach and internal organs together or in place.

[Lord of the Bling]

Okay, okay. Call/Premature aren't broken. Frankly, neither is Monster Reborn. I banned them for seperate reasons to the rest. I banned them solely and only because this will likely promote the themes which are now the ONLY way to get recursion.

Card of Safe Return I banned to kill the OTK with Manticore of Darkness, not because of Dark World.

Raigeki/Harpies ARE ONLY BROKEN IF YOU LET THEM BE! If you play skillfully, they're no better than Smashing/MST. The secret to surviving Harpies? Don't set two unchainable M/T before it's gone. The secret to surviving Raigeki? Don't put two or more monsters on the field, unless one/more of them is a Sangan type.

Painful requires skill to use. It's an excellent tutor, yes. It helps out a multitude of decks, like Strike Ninja, for one.

Many were saying that they weren't going to be running Tribe, and this was before we knew it was banned. Frankly, the n00bs wasted it, the skilled saved it.

Guys, give me better reasons than NO! This needs to stay banned/limited! for Book, Tsuku, SPON... Book is versatile, yes. This isn't a banlist designed to punish versatility. Same reason for Tsuku.

SPON I semi'd because I have yet to see a deck with a real focus on the flaming chicken. This can happen now.

Grav and LL I obviously unlimited because of Harpies return.

Romancer: Now here's some good argument from you.

I was waiting to see who'd pick up on this. I'm fairly ambivalient on the subject of Exiled. I'd like it semi'd, I'd also like it limited. We'll see what happens. It's also negatable by My Body, if that matters to you. ;)

[topspin1617]

Don't ban Premature and CotH, and I like this list a lot. Mine was a lot like this, but I banned/restricted some of the 1 for 1's.

[Romancer]

Could you explain your reasoning behind Exiled Force at 2? I can't think of a better argument agaisnt it being at 2 other than having first hand experience with it and how brutal it is in a deck built around it's abusability. I'm curious as to how things look from someone else's eyes regarding this card and situation.

[Shadowhawk11]

Only 2 problem with this list, Exiled Force, considering you did nothing to hamper Warrior's this'll be broken, with 2 RoTA probably 1-2 Warrior Return alive. Card of Safe Return, the Manticore OTK, is alot less effective then OTK's you left un adressed.

[PMasterS]

Okay, okay. Call/Premature aren't broken. Frankly, neither is Monster Reborn. I banned them for seperate reasons to the rest. I banned them solely and only because this will likely promote the themes which are now the ONLY way to get recursion.

Card of Safe Return I banned to kill the OTK with Manticore of Darkness, not because of Dark World.

Raigeki/Harpies ARE ONLY BROKEN IF YOU LET THEM BE! If you play skillfully, they're no better than Smashing/MST. The secret to surviving Harpies? Don't set two unchainable M/T before it's gone. The secret to surviving Raigeki? Don't put two or more monsters on the field, unless one/more of them is a Sangan type.

Painful requires skill to use. It's an excellent tutor, yes. It helps out a multitude of decks, like Strike Ninja, for one.

Many were saying that they weren't going to be running Tribe, and this was before we knew it was banned. Frankly, the n00bs wasted it, the skilled saved it.

Guys, give me better reasons than NO! This needs to stay banned/limited! for Book, Tsuku, SPON... Book is versatile, yes. This isn't a banlist designed to punish versatility. Same reason for Tsuku.

SPON I semi'd because I have yet to see a deck with a real focus on the flaming chicken. This can happen now.

Grav and LL I obviously unlimited because of Harpies return.

Romancer: Now here's some good argument from you.

I was waiting to see who'd pick up on this. I'm fairly ambivalient on the subject of Exiled. I'd like it semi'd, I'd also like it limited. We'll see what happens. It's also negatable by My Body, if that matters to you. ;)


Look the HFD and Raigeki may be better when used by skilled players, but they also anhialate combo based or lockdown style decks.
They aren't too powerful to be banned, just too broken.

I don't think you should have banned both Call and Premature, just because non themed decks should have access to recursion as well.

Exiled could go to 2 you're right there, but it will cut back on the ability to run tribute level monsters.


Come on give us PoG back as well in this list.

[mesocoollikeme]

not to flame or anything, but
YOU SUCK

but I do like Painful Choice coming back

[Exiled]

I like seeing Creator Decks becoming Tier 1 with this list. I agree with PMasterS. Do you know how hard it's going to be to run a Spirit of the Pharoah Deck or Destiny Board?:D

[Ghost hunter]

This would be one of the worst ban lists ever.No one can give you reason for banning HFD and Raigeki, cause in beggining you said it yourself-massive monster removal.

And you said that would help better players, it`s just soo wrong, look example, there are kids who play very freakin bad and have luck, should we give them free victory, I don`t think so.I like to consider myself pretty good duelist, and I save my resources, and that saving of resources is the reason I don`t want extensive monster and s/t removal again.Example, I lure my opponent to use his heavy storm in early game, and when he does I can set as much as I want without fear.I wouldn`t like to get HFD later and have my strategy destroyed.And you gave more monster removal when we already have more than we need.You semi limited lightning vortex(which isn`t that good though)and unbanned raigeki, that`s the stupidest thing I ever heard, in current metagame following serve as monster removal: 2-3x smashing ground, lightning vortex, dark hole, TT, 3xSakuretsu, 1-3xWidespread, BTH, Trap Hole, DDA, DDWL,DDW, zaborg etc.Now give them raigeki and take out coth and premature...Do you see my point?!Just think a bit before you make new ban list, use your brain not your you know what.

[Roku]

Oh myeee gawd. That would be a super crazy meta! ._.;;

[topspin1617]

I like the way you brought back some cards, but I think stuff needs to be moved around.

Unban: Premature Burial, Call of the Haunted, Magican Scientist
Ban: Smahsing Ground, Fissure, Mystical Space Typhoon, Catapult Turtle
Limit: Hammer Shot, Dust Tornado, Exiled Force, Lightning Vortex, Torrential Tribute, Night Assailant
Semi-Limit: Metamorphosis, Creature Swap

[Soulmaster Knight]

And I'm not going to ban them. This is a skill-based banlist, not a stupid-based one.

I. Forbidden Cards

You cannot use these cards in your Deck, Fusion Deck or Side Deck.

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Call of the Haunted
Card of Safe Return
Change of Heart
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Delinquent Duo
Fiber Jar
Imperial Order
Magical Scientist
Makyura the Destructor
Mirage of Nightmare
Monster Reborn
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Ring of Destruction
Sinister Serpent
The Forceful Sentry
Witch of the Black Forest
Yata-Garasu

II. Limited Cards

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.

Book of Taiyou
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Confiscation
Cyber Jar
Dark Hole
D. D. Warrior Lady
Dark Magician of Chaos
Deck Devastation Virus
Exchange of the Spirit
Exodia the Forbidden One
Graceful Charity
Harpie's Feather Duster
Heavy Storm
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Limiter Removal
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Magician of Faith
Metamorphosis
Mirror Force
Morphing Jar
Mystical Space Typhoon
Nobleman of Crossout
Painful Choice
Raigeki
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Sangan
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand

III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.

Book of Moon
Emergency Provisions
Exiled Force
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Last Turn
Lightning Vortex
Night Assailant
Reinforcement of the Army
Reckless Greed
Reflect Bounder
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Scapegoat
Torrential Tribute
Tsukuyomi
Upstart Goblin

NEW! - The following cards are no longer Semi-Limited: Abyss Soldier, Creature Swap, Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow, Gravity Bind, Level Limit - Area B, Marauding Captain, Manticore of Darkness, Protector of the Sanctuary, Vampire Lord

To start with.

Now, the following arguments are to be considered null and void in this thread:

"You increased the staple-pool!"

So? I don't care. Cards that only work with certain themes that are much, much better than the generic version are the only thing that will stop this, or set rotation.

"You have TOO MUCH mass destruction!"

No I don't. The fact is, cards which have the capacity to destroy multiple targets as easily as one have to be used with care. You wouldn't waste your Dark Hole on a single used Dekoichoi, would you? Well, some would. And those people deserve to lose. Better people deserve to win, and this list will insure that. Not this lucksacking bull**** that goes on now, or, at least, not nearly as much.

And that's about it. But, if you do drop in with those, I'll gladly school you.
Oh...boy.

Phoenix at 2 and cards like Dark Hole still used = a combination of Heavy Storm and Monster Reborn (essentially). And now, you want CC to have two of them at their disposal? Yeah, I can see the rest of the masses gathering their pitchforks and torches.

Raigeki/HFD...once again, the thought of having the chance for one-sided mass monster/spell/trap removal is just...not...right.

TT at 2...just like above. One is enough.

Too bad I don't have time to point out the other things so wrong with this list right now; I'm getting dizzy. *falls out*

[wERTYxWeRT]

mmmm. maybe ban HFD and raigeki and let dark hole and heavy storm be semi -limited since no one likes one-sided removal.

i frankly don't really care about the ban list since i'm not gonna quit anytime soon.

[Dragon Warrior]

yes phoenix at 2

um looking just a few things I see wrong

ban geki and hfd. I know you said you would ignore this but either way they are to powerful. Now duster is not as bad but geki can eliminate progress or tributes that are hard to get out.

Also banning card of safe return hurts dark world and devoted zombie revive decks.

But otherwise I would love this to be the list we use

[Lord of the Bling]

Oh...boy.

Phoenix at 2 and cards like Dark Hole still used = a combination of Heavy Storm and Monster Reborn (essentially). And now, you want CC to have two of them at their disposal? Yeah, I can see the rest of the masses gathering their pitchforks and torches.

Good. New viable decktype.

Raigeki/HFD...once again, the thought of having the chance for one-sided mass monster/spell/trap removal is just...not...right.

Don't pack your field and Geki/Harpies aren't very scary.

TT at 2...just like above. One is enough.

Too bad I don't have time to point out the other things so wrong with this list right now; I'm getting dizzy. *falls out*

It's called playing conservatively. Goddamn, people.

Basically, apply this to all posts on teh thread.

[Romancer]

Good. New viable decktype.



Don't pack your field and Geki/Harpies aren't very scary.



It's called playing conservatively. Goddamn, people.

Basically, apply this to all posts on teh thread.
This is idealism. Players will use Harpies and Raigeki the instant the oppurtunity arrises for them to score a cheap and easy win. All they need are the cards in hand to launch a swarm (be it Cyber Dragons, Marauding Captains, Premature Bruial, Call of the Haunted, Dark World, etc.), and 1 of or both of these cards to give them an open field at only the cost of the cards themselves.

It's unrealistic to expect players to be able to stop their opponent from wiping out their field with 1 or 2 cards, and then survive a 1TK swarm. A hand with Raigeki, Feahter's Duster, Cyber Dragon and another LV 4 monster is a guranteed 4000 damage on a player's open field at the cost of 4 cards. Even if the opponent had set numerous monsters and spells or traps, they'd have lost unless one of those cards was a Waboku, a Threatening Roar, or a Winged Kuribo.

The only thing these 2 cards will do if they return is make it imparative to be the first person to draw out their 2 broken feild clearers and set up for the win.

[topspin1617]

This is idealism. Players will use Harpies and Raigeki the instant the oppurtunity arrises for them to score a cheap and easy win. All they need are the cards in hand to launch a swarm (be it Cyber Dragons, Marauding Captains, Premature Bruial, Call of the Haunted, Dark World, etc.), and 1 of or both of these cards to give them an open field at only the cost of the cards themselves.

It's unrealistic to expect players to be able to stop their opponent from wiping out their field with 1 or 2 cards, and then survive a 1TK swarm. A hand with Raigeki, Feahter's Duster, Cyber Dragon and another LV 4 monster is a guranteed 4000 damage on a player's open field at the cost of 4 cards. Even if the opponent had set numerous monsters and spells or traps, they'd have lost unless one of those cards was a Waboku, a Threatening Roar, or a Winged Kuribo.

The only thing these 2 cards will do if they return is make it imparative to be the first person to draw out their 2 broken feild clearers and set up for the win.

Fine, i'll take the 4000 damage. Then laugh because I've got the game won as my opponent has wasted all thei cards.

[Kiriyama]

mmmm. maybe ban HFD and raigeki and let dark hole and heavy storm be semi -limited since no one likes one-sided removal.

i frankly don't really care about the ban list since i'm not gonna quit anytime soon.
I agree with this guy and also suggest protector be at 1 again because it's combos are pretty broken.

[Netdecker]

When you banned Card of Safe Return I didn't bother too look at the rest =/

[Waboku]

I have some comment after reading your list/thread. Why unban Raigeki/HFD? They are broken and cause for an easy win. Playing conservative isn't going to stop them from using Geki and HFD any less. Heck with those back, look how easy it is to win:

Opponent:
2 M/T
Face down D.D. Warrior Lady

Me:
Draw.
1. Play Harpies Feather Duster
2. SS Cyber Dragon
3. Play Raigeki
4. Normal Summon Scientist, pay 3k for 3 2000 fusions. Hit for game. I win.

EDIT: I agree with netdecker, dark world isn't a threat!

[Alpha HiT Man]

And I'm not going to ban them. This is a skill-based banlist, not a stupid-based one.

I. Forbidden Cards

You cannot use these cards in your Deck, Fusion Deck or Side Deck.

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Call of the Haunted
Card of Safe Return
Change of Heart
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Delinquent Duo
Fiber Jar
Imperial Order
Magical Scientist
Makyura the Destructor
Mirage of Nightmare
Monster Reborn
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Ring of Destruction
Sinister Serpent
The Forceful Sentry
Witch of the Black Forest
Yata-Garasu

II. Limited Cards

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.

Book of Taiyou
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Confiscation
Cyber Jar
Dark Hole
D. D. Warrior Lady
Dark Magician of Chaos
Deck Devastation Virus
Exchange of the Spirit
Exodia the Forbidden One
Graceful Charity
Harpie's Feather Duster
Heavy Storm
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Limiter Removal
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Magician of Faith
Metamorphosis
Mirror Force
Morphing Jar
Mystical Space Typhoon
Nobleman of Crossout
Painful Choice
Raigeki
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Sangan
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand

III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck, Fusion Deck & Side Deck combined.

Book of Moon
Emergency Provisions
Exiled Force
Good Goblin Housekeeping
Last Turn
Lightning Vortex
Night Assailant
Reinforcement of the Army
Reckless Greed
Reflect Bounder
Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys
Scapegoat
Torrential Tribute
Tsukuyomi
Upstart Goblin

NEW! - The following cards are no longer Semi-Limited: Abyss Soldier, Creature Swap, Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow, Gravity Bind, Level Limit - Area B, Marauding Captain, Manticore of Darkness, Protector of the Sanctuary, Vampire Lord

To start with.

Now, the following arguments are to be considered null and void in this thread:

"You increased the staple-pool!"

So? I don't care. Cards that only work with certain themes that are much, much better than the generic version are the only thing that will stop this, or set rotation.

"You have TOO MUCH mass destruction!"

No I don't. The fact is, cards which have the capacity to destroy multiple targets as easily as one have to be used with care. You wouldn't waste your Dark Hole on a single used Dekoichoi, would you? Well, some would. And those people deserve to lose. Better people deserve to win, and this list will insure that. Not this lucksacking bull**** that goes on now, or, at least, not nearly as much.

And that's about it. But, if you do drop in with those, I'll gladly school you.

the current format is the best one so far.. you probably just lose all the time because you dont have the skill to compete in it.

[Clear1]

that can't happen since scientist fusions can't attack direct.

here's a good situation:

Opponent:
2 M/T
Face down D.D. Warrior Lady and D.D. Assailant

Me:
Draw.
1. Play Harpies Feather Duster
2. Special Summon Cyber Dragon
3. Normal Summon Marauding Captain
4. Special Summon Injection Fairy Lily
5. Premature Mobius.
6. Raigeki
7. Game?

here's a message that all you people want to unban HFD and Raigeki. You ready?


GO. PLAY. FREAKING. TRADITIONAL.

Have a nice day.

[Waboku]

My bad, that is correct. Was thinking of others. CORRECT:

Oppoent:
2 M/T
DDWL

Me:
Draw
1. HFD
2.SS Cyber Dragon
3. Raigeki
4. Normal Summon Cyber Stein. Pay 5000 for Fusion, BEUD/Cyber End
5. Game?

I actually think I made Cyber Stein broken in Traditional O_O

[Shizzle]

I agree with the thread poster.

Although i do wish so bad UDE would not ban restrict ANYTHING for one ban list so its liek the good ole days, chaos mosnters 3 ddwl... so awesome so much fun.

[The Punisher]

I agree with the thread poster.

Although i do wish so bad UDE would not ban restrict ANYTHING for one ban list so its liek the good ole days, chaos mosnters 3 ddwl... so awesome so much fun.

Way to suck up to the Traditionalists there, cowboy.


My opinion on this list? You brought back all the stalling good fun of having everybody maindeck two Scapegoat; and your reasoning behind bringing back broken stuff ("Good people deserve to win" or something to that effect) holds no weight as, almost three different formats later, some names pop up very frequently in the top 8 of many tournaments anyway.

[_Badfish]

I <3 this list except for the 2 Exiled. Premature and Call kinda balances it out but still Exiled is almost broken.

[wertalace]

I'd pwn everyone with my Protector of the Sanctuary deck if they did that...

Set Protector, set disturbance strategy, set desert sunlight...you draw and I have instant advantage...

That would be one freakin insane format...two torrentials...

[topspin1617]

that can't happen since scientist fusions can't attack direct.

here's a good situation:

Opponent:
2 M/T
Face down D.D. Warrior Lady and D.D. Assailant

Me:
Draw.
1. Play Harpies Feather Duster
2. Special Summon Cyber Dragon
3. Normal Summon Marauding Captain
4. Special Summon Injection Fairy Lily
5. Premature Mobius.
6. Raigeki
7. Game?



here's a message that all you people want to unban HFD and Raigeki. You ready?


GO. PLAY. FREAKING. TRADITIONAL.

Have a nice day.

What are the odds of having those 6 specific cards in your hand, seriously.

[Exiled]

What are the odds of having those 6 specific cards in your hand, seriously.
One in a 1000 but still the possiblity is always open. If someone wins with a hand like that, it's called lucksacking or whatever sorts of terms used.


Rather than discuss about the list anymore, I'd rather wait and hope

[Lord of the Bling]

When you banned Card of Safe Return I didn't bother too look at the rest =/

Fail. I banned it to stop the Exodia FTK involving Manticore of Darkness and CoSR.

[jonnanblade16]

I...love...this...LIST.

I would get someone to teach me how to do a cartwheel the second this list was implimented!

This is the way this game was meant to be played, IMO. I would do a list something like this. This does reward skill. Personally, I hate this one-for-one meta. I ENJOYED the days when i could build up my field, get TREMENDOUS advantage over my opponent, have victory at the tips of my fingers, and get mass-removed, swarmed, and, inevitibley (I am sure I spelled this wrong, but I am tired) lose the duel. Then I could shake my opponents hand for a great turn-around, and congratulate his/her victory.

This is not sarcasm. I am dead serious. My only beef is that I miss Magical Scientist. (And don't tell me to go back to Traditional, because I hate the Envoys. Chaos Sorceror is fine.)

[Clear1]

This does reward skill. Personally, I hate this one-for-one meta. I ENJOYED the days when i could build up my field, get TREMENDOUS advantage over my opponent, have victory at the tips of my fingers, and get mass-removed, swarmed, and, inevitibley (I am sure I spelled this wrong, but I am tired) lose the duel. Then I could shake my opponents hand for a great turn-around, and congratulate his/her victory.

throw a tournament into that picture and you have yourself and luck-based metagame.

Fail. I banned it to stop the Exodia FTK involving Manticore of Darkness and CoSR.

let's see, I'll played 2 Cards of Safe Return, I have 4 cards in my hand, i play card destruction, 3 Dark Worlds go to the graveyard, draw 3, 1st CoSR resolves, draw 3. 2nd one resolves, draw 3 more. i just got a +9 card advantage and +3 Field advantage if you don't bottomless.

It does not need to be banned, but DEFINITELY at 1.