Yugioh! Regional Qualifier in Athens, GA on 01/21/2006

[DarkAssailant]

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VS System Pro Circuit Qualifier and YuGiOh Regional Qualifier in Athens



Saturday, January 21st

Holiday Inn
197 East Broad Street
Athens, GA 30603
Click here for a map. (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&address=197+East+Broad+Street&city=athens&state=ga&zipcode=)


Event Itinerary -

9:00 AMDoors open and registration begins9:45 AMRegistration after this period for the will result in a $5.00 late fee per person10:00 AMVS System Deck Registration for Sealed10:00 AMRound 1 of the YuGiOh Regional Qualifier begins1:00 PMRegistration begins for VS PCQ Constructed1:45 PMRegistration after this period for the will result in a $5.00 late fee per person2:00 PMApproximate time that the VS System Constructed Tournament will beginTournament Details -

VS System JLA Sealed PCQ - Format: Sealed Pack with deck swap. 30 minute 1 game Swiss rounds, cut to Top 8 draft single elimination finals.Set Legality: 5 JLA booster packs.Entry Fee: $25. Remember there is a $5 late fee if you register after 9:45AM.Prizes: Top 8 players in this event will recieve a Extended Art promo card, an JLA T-Shirt, and JLA booster pack prizes dependent on player attendance. The winner will also recieve a exclusive JLA deck box, JLA playmat, and a $250 travel award in the form of a Visa gift card.

YuGiOh Regional Qualifier -

Format:40 minute Swiss rounds, cut to Top 8 single elimination finals.Set Legality:Advanced format banned and restricted list. (http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh/en/forb_advanced.aspx) Elemental Energy is legal at this event. Click here for a deck registration sheet. (http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/op/policy/files/Decklist_Yu-Gi-Oh_21feb2004.pdf)Entry fee:$15. Remember there is a $5 late fee if you register after 9:45AM.Prizes:Top 4 players receive an invitation to the 2006 National Championships. Top 8 players will receive a YuGiOh playmat and booster pack prizes dependant on the number of players.VS System Constructed PCQ -

Format:30 minute 1 game Swiss rounds, cut to Top 8 single elimination finals.Set Legality:Golden Age Constructed format. All sets are legal for deck construction. Click here for a deck registration sheet. (http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/op/policy/files/vsdeckregistration.pdf)Entry Fee:$20. Remember there is a $5 late fee if you register after 1:45PM.Prizes:Top 8 players in this event will recieve a Extended Art promo card, an JLA T-Shirt, and JLA booster pack prizes dependent on player attendance. The winner will also recieve a exclusive JLA deck box, JLA playmat, and a $250 travel award in the form of a Visa gift card.The information presented here, if presented in error, will always defer to Upper Deck Entertainment rulings. For information on UDE, VS System or tournaments please visit their website at http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com (http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/)

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[blueD]

Very nice, y'all get alot of Reggie huh? I prob stop by for the PCQ or w/e.

[DarkAssailant]

no. play yugioh. r u qualified for '06 nats?, nows the time if u arent.

[blueD]

eheh oh yeah, i didn't Q. yet O_O Let GA know who is blue =p

How the turnout?

Yeah iono it depends, cuz i might visit some family around GA at that time.

[DarkAssailant]

turnout not great lately. 82 at last reg i think and 60 or so the one b4 that. u shud play tho. u may do well. who nos.

[DarkAssailant]

btw GA players- if im playin something wack, which i prolly wont, think nuthing of it. but i am gonna b testing something other than my toolbox. just not sure wat to go with. toolbox is just a relatively safe bet.

[zgoxten]

All of Team GS will go for sure, except for me. I'm like an hour and 30 min away from athens.

[satcher]

I dont get it nce you get your invite why do you want to try to top 8 or win. Yoou just take it away from other people. I am playing a 125 card deck with just 3 spells and no traps. The rest of the deck is mons. I am dead serious too. I got my invite. So im going to have some fun.

[teamalphadonald]

dang i wish that could go but i live in florida :mad:

[Alpha HiT Man]

Ahh.. the team diversity should be really sweet

[HereComesJonny!]

How are the teams up in Georgia? If I ever could go there to see my hometown I would definately try to go to any regional possible, but I live in Florida w/e way we still have a lot going on where we live, good luck to everyone there.

[Alpha HiT Man]

yea, i just talked to richie today and he said that he is going to go to georgia for this reigionals and im pretty sure he will top 8 easily

[Alpha HiT Man]

dang i wish that could go but i live in florida :mad:

yea we would just get new mats, which would actually be pretty cool

[Tricky]

i prolly cant go but i can try to see if my ride can get me ova there buts its an hour away just liek Brian said...man

[Ulysses]

yea we would just get new mats, which would actually be pretty cool

haha well i think only about 6 or 7 of team GS will top 8 so i think we can spare a mat or 2..

[SilentMasterX]

I think I will go,but I don't know who will give me a ride. I live about an hour or less away but I am not sure I would do too well because that would be my first time at a regional and I don't do too well at other tournaments.

[Tricky]

o we gets are Shirt at regionals too GO GS woot sexi we goin to be lookin sexi and Have the new mats...by the way this is Dominique to all the GS members

[DarkAssailant]

man...imma do so good...imma top 8 the Vrs. tourney, man...and i dont even play Vrs. man! JK. im just that good at yugimonz that ill get 2 mats if unity wants to b that cool and IF i top 8 lol

again i aint guaranteeing anything as i may scrub like at Columbus

[Aethereal]

I may be skipping this one. There is another Regional the weekend after that gets priority over this one because I get to meet with my team there, and I've got school to worry about.

[DarkAssailant]

BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111

come to regs Kevin ur missed by someone im sure. o and ur good unlike many here. only like 15-30 relatively good players here in GA.

[zgoxten]

I dont get it nce you get your invite why do you want to try to top 8 or win. Yoou just take it away from other people. I am playing a 125 card deck with just 3 spells and no traps. The rest of the deck is mons. I am dead serious too. I got my invite. So im going to have some fun.
That's what people should be doing.. I don't even see why once you top 8 people still go to regionals. I mean the prize support is horrible, so if you don't Top 8, you just wasted your money.

[drizzztdourden]

I may be skipping this one. There is another Regional the weekend after that gets priority over this one because I get to meet with my team there, and I've got school to worry about.

lol, kevin damn straight ^_^

[DarkAssailant]

naw man, Georgia >>>>>>>>>>all other "priorities" cuz were just that good. JK

[Aethereal]

Well like I said, it depends on school. I have an overloaded semester coming up. Athens is a pretty short trip, though, and I kinda need to go there anyway...so I'm just playing it by ear.

[Tricky]

i need to win this regs or top 4 atleast so i can sell some of my cards

[hmk17]

Since someone has been mentioning it:

UDE has announced there will be new Regional mats released... in 2006. You probably won't see these until Nationals.

[Tricky]

so what wont get them at athens regs..uhh that gay

[Alpha HiT Man]

Since someone has been mentioning it:

UDE has announced there will be new Regional mats released... in 2006. You probably won't see these until Nationals.

oh , so weak

[Tricky]

liek i dont think im even goin to be playin YGO then....:(

[MuchAdo]

edit: whatever.

[DarkAssailant]

Maybe at this regional I can get a correct ruling concerning Sacred Pheonix.


Here is some advice concerning Sacred Phoenix. Try building a deck without it, you may win more. Just a thought.

[Tricky]

Here is some advice concerning Sacred Phoenix. Try building a deck without it, you may win more. Just a thought.
nah let him run the bird thats mean if i play him thats an auto win

[aladude85]

Here is some advice concerning Sacred Phoenix. Try building a deck without it, you may win more. Just a thought.

nah let him run the bird thats mean if i play him thats an auto win


Those comments were highly uncalled for. Judging someone based on a card they are using (a good card at that) is one of the dumbest things you can do. I am actually surprised that SPoN isn't used more often, considering everyone seems to moan and groan about people running 3 Widespread/3 Sakuretsu.

[Taka_shi]

For some strange reason Phoenix always hits a facedown DDA. :)

[Tricky]

well the thing is the bird always hit DDA or DDWL or hit the BTH simple

[Dark_Ruler_Shen]

yep, phoenix is trash in this format...good players will side deck vs it, n then its over for that deck. sry 2 break it 2 u man :(

[MuchAdo]

edit: whatever.

[hmk17]

Wow, I was just complaining about a bad ruling...not asking for peoples advice about the card. But thanks for being presumptious. I appreciate it.
Maybe if you mentioned the ruling, you could have gotten what you were looking for not people's opinions of you and the card.

[MuchAdo]

Maybe if you mentioned the ruling, you could have gotten what you were looking for not people's opinions of you and the card.
I should have just kept it to myself and not given people the opportunity. Besides, I shouldn't single out any judge out for making a mistake, they're only human. I shouldn't have said anything.

[Tricky]

o well lets hope next time there wont be a bad ruling on a card

[hmk17]

I should have just kept it to myself and not given people the opportunity. Besides, I shouldn't single out any judge out for making a mistake, they're only human. I shouldn't have said anything.
You don't have to point out a judge. You can simply relay the situation.

Though given your last post, it may seem you are implying me. :p

[DarkAssailant]

man 3 weeks seems like a long time to wait. I hope it passes quick.

[Tricky]

i got a new deck for yall so what out its hott and neva lost yet so u know

[Dutch]

105% sure I will not be playing at this event. Sold away the majority of my deck (Kept the cybers and assailants). Have fun all and don't give the judging staff too much of a hard time.

Dutch

[Tricky]

105% sure I will not be playing at this event. Sold away the majority of my deck (Kept the cybers and assailants). Have fun all and don't give the judging staff too much of a hard time.

Dutch
sry dutch to heard that well gl with what eva u playin or doing and ill just pwn athens without u in it :)

[DarkAssailant]

I think we'll all miss the excitement of losing to Dutch. Anyways, Tricky, plz stop talking it up. Get some real credentials first. Its ok to say ur good if ur good. But to say u havent lost in X amount of time and imply that u r probably not going to at the regional and say that ur gonna pwn it up, b real plz. Ur a cool guy, dont blow it. I have an invite and 3 yrs. of top level local play and x-2 regionals and i am not talking a huge game. I say that i hope to do well but u cant guarantee a great performance at any given event. For example, look at the team Comic Odyssee. Those guys have won on every level for over 2 years. They r clearly good. But then look at their past few SJC appearances. Their best showing = Wilson Luc splits a Volstgalph in side events. They r still phenomenal players but things happened and they r not putting three players in every SJC top 8 anymore. Thats all I am saying.

[zgoxten]

They're not putting 3 players in SJC anymore because most of the team is ban =\.

[Tricky]

I think we'll all miss the excitement of losing to Dutch. Anyways, Tricky, plz stop talking it up. Get some real credentials first. Its ok to say ur good if ur good. But to say u havent lost in X amount of time and imply that u r probably not going to at the regional and say that ur gonna pwn it up, b real plz. Ur a cool guy, dont blow it. I have an invite and 3 yrs. of top level local play and x-2 regionals and i am not talking a huge game. I say that i hope to do well but u cant guarantee a great performance at any given event. For example, look at the team Comic Odyssee. Those guys have won on every level for over 2 years. They r clearly good. But then look at their past few SJC appearances. Their best showing = Wilson Luc splits a Volstgalph in side events. They r still phenomenal players but things happened and they r not putting three players in every SJC top 8 anymore. Thats all I am saying.
calm down dude i was just playin and plus im kinda sad because i neva got to play dutuch once :( ....and liek i was just talkin trash... i know this regs is goin to be hard and stuff but if u dont beilieve in yourself then how are u goin to win then whats the point of your playin..but im not tryin to say yall all sux..I just liek to talk trash thats all but yeah im sry if i made u made or what eva =| but yeah anyways thats Going

[hmk17]

105% sure I will not be playing at this event. Sold away the majority of my deck (Kept the cybers and assailants). Have fun all and don't give the judging staff too much of a hard time.

Dutch
They want to do that, we get to give them a hard time right back. :D

Anyway, this won't be the last of Dutch... he'll be back.

[aladude85]

Maybe if you mentioned the ruling, you could have gotten what you were looking for not people's opinions of you and the card.


I believe the ruling/problem was with SPoN and Solemn Judgment.

[Dutch]

I will be back for the special Regionals in March that use the new banned list. After that, prob. Nationals since I love Origins.

[DarkAssailant]

sry, Tricky, thx for clearing that. I just dont believe in trash talk in yugimonz. and who really expected Dutch to REALLY put down yugimonz just yet. He clearly has a few games left.

[yata1010]

u guys get a **** load of regs. :D

[Tricky]

yeah because Georgia is sexi

[DarkAssailant]

we "only" get 1 a month. lol

and yes, georgia is sexy!!!!

[hmk17]

I believe the ruling/problem was with SPoN and Solemn Judgment.
SPoN?

Full names of the cards kinda help.

[Aethereal]

Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys, I'm assuming.

[DarkAssailant]

i hate writing out the full names of long-named cards like MST or BLS. it takes forever

[SilentMasterX]

I wonder what different deck types will there be at the reg.

[hmk17]

Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys, I'm assuming.
If it is Phoenix, then I can already say that the word "No" will pop up quite a few times.

[Model_Zero]

I thought about trying to make this one since I missed Richmond in Virginia...but now that I hear you guys bashing a broken card..I don't even know if it'll be worth my time. SPoN has a sick deck built around it and a few other cards now adays..and it works..so like yeah.. =\

[satcher]

I drew all over my Phoenix. If its so good how come no one plays it?(that top 8s) Its a good side board card but it blows monkey pooh

[NephthysPhoenix]

I drew all over my Phoenix. If its so good how come no one plays it?(that top 8s) Its a good side board card but it blows monkey pooh

Poor card.

I'll make sure I have an "The End of Anbuis" Side decked just for birdie bird and all the other stupid "Return from the graveyard to the field blah blah blah" effects.

It's a good card when Hand of Nephyts in your first turn or whatever, but other then that it's ahrd to get rid of well somewhat.

[Model_Zero]

I'd come to win a box, that's about it.

[DarkAssailant]

yo Model Zero, that mean ur gonna talk junk and not even sho. i understand if u cant make it but talk junk and threaten to sho and then not sho. if ur so good come prove it. worse case scenario, u top 8 an ez regional, right? yeah, well c. and plz sho up and bring ur A game wen u do. were not as bad as anyone thinks. In fact, were pretty darn good.

[Model_Zero]

A. I never said you guys were bad. Stop putting words in my mouth.
B. I might come, I don't know as of yet, depends on if I do well in Durham

[DarkAssailant]

sry, but it almost seemed u implied it tho. but on a different note, cool sig. mine wud b better but then I'd b lying. lol. GJ on all those regs. and do try ur best to make it. Competition is fun, thats y I play.

[satcher]

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[Meratsu Doki]

Satcher....Stop showing your age.

[drizzztdourden]

Satcher....Stop showing your age.

really....

[satcher]

Just shut up. He was being really ****y and he has no right to be like that towards georgia players. So no. I will act how I act.

[DarkAssailant]

thanx for being cool, satcher. GJ!!!!!!!!1111

[Model_Zero]

I can't help the way you took my posts, but ask anyone around my area I'm not an ass. I was saying if I would come I would be confident on doing well so plz stop spamming and flamming me.

[DarkAssailant]

k, sry, man. just tryin to let u know we dont give away top 8s. and poor attendance yeilds the poor prize support we see at our regs. In order to win a box, you will need to get 2nd or better. If u can, GL. Judging by ur sig, i guess u cud do it. but again, plz come, and GL. u may just need it. lol.

[Chaos Servent]

Well, a 2xMerchant Flip Flop sould serve me well.

Just shut up. He was being really ****y and he has no right to be like that towards georgia players. So no. I will act how I act.

... What you did was called Spam, no not the kind that comes in a can, the kind that you post. Don't do that and there will not be a flame war.

[satcher]

Well

... What you did was called Spam, no not the kind that comes in a can, the kind that you post. Don't do that and there will not be a flame war.

oh your clever I had no idea it didnt come in a can. ;p

[hmk17]

oh your clever I had no idea it didnt come in a can. ;p
Satcher, I'd really advise that you lay off the attitude, the sarcasm, and the trash posting. It's not getting you anywhere.

As for the Regional staff... We've got all but one person confirmed and if he commits this will be the highest level staffed regional GA has ever had. The funny part is that the Level 3 Judge will not be the head... lol

[satcher]

Satcher, I'd really advise that you lay off the attitude, the sarcasm, and the trash posting. It's not getting you anywhere.

As for the Regional staff... We've got all but one person confirmed and if he commits this will be the highest level staffed regional GA has ever had. The funny part is that the Level 3 Judge will not be the head... lol

Then i wasnt being sarcastic or flaming or spam I was joking to him. OMG you all make such a big deal about this little posting thingy

[zgoxten]

I quit yugioh for all u people that kno me, and Im pretty sure theres an mtg prerelease on the same day so ill be goin to that...

my last regionals will prolly be the one in feb, and i might be going to nationals..

[DarkAssailant]

booboo, Brian. JK, magic pwns.

[Dutch]

Well Brian, with you only playing weekely tournaments @ Player 1 Games it was a matter of time. There is no meta there and you only play traditional. That is a MTG store but there are very few Yugioh stores left as well.

[zgoxten]

Well Brian, with you only playing weekely tournaments @ Player 1 Games it was a matter of time. There is no meta there and you only play traditional. That is a MTG store but there are very few Yugioh stores left as well.

Yeah, i switched to mtg...they have like 30 people on friday nights =\...

They started to have adv tournies tho which everyone there sucked at cept dominque. I still play in the tournies there for free magic boosters xD..

[hmk17]

Meh, you ought to come over to VS, the money game.

[MuchAdo]

I believe the ruling/problem was with SPoN and Solemn Judgment.
It was a judge telling me that if sacred pheonix's summon was negated and it was destroyed by solemn judgement that it would not come back next turn which is wrong. I'm not upset about it. People make mistakes. I was in a bad mood when I wrote that post and never should have. I've edited them out and I'm sorry. I happen to think HMK is a fine judge.


from Official Website (http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh/en/faq_card_rulings.aspx?first=S&last=T)
If “Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys” is Summoned, and the Summon is negated by “Horn of Heaven”, it is Special Summoned during your next Standby Phase because it was destroyed by a card effect.

[hmk17]

Meh, that would be the first time I'd say yes.

That ruling and the Divine Wrath one get mixed up by a lot of people.

[Tricky]

Yeah, i switched to mtg...they have like 30 people on friday nights =\...

They started to have adv tournies tho which everyone there sucked at cept dominque. I still play in the tournies there for free magic boosters xD..
yeah the tourny there sux and im not goin to athens as well as brian because playerone piss me off its only me and brian and most of the time we always have to play first round against him ....to bad i won every tourny that they had and brian always lost but yeah im playin magic with brian...so i be at my last regs on feb and try to get my invite and go to nationals maybe but yeah see yall there

[DarkAssailant]

11 days. cant wait. i sure hope that i do well. will anyone be running something original like creature swap/ameba? toolbox has just >>>>>>> GA regs. ill prolly run it tho due to great consistancy.

[Aethereal]

Well, I definitely won't be there now as I have school obligations that weekend. :\

[Dutch]

"yeah the tourny there sux and im not goin to athens as well as brian because playerone piss me off its only me and brian and most of the time we always have to play first round against him ....to bad i won every tourny that they had and brian always lost but yeah im playin magic with brian...so i be at my last regs on feb and try to get my invite and go to nationals maybe but yeah see yall there"


hmmm. if Player 1 is pissing you off, why spend more $$$ there and play MTG? Just kinda confused. Rudy is a friend and has and will always push MTG over any other CCG due to it's longevity. As for MTG as tournament game in Georgia, the biggest problem is a money grubbing T.O. that gives horrble prize support and huge entry fees. Even w/ events for casual players such as pre releases, he has upped the cost and lowered the prize support. As for players, you will find it to be more cutthrout in trading and game play. Just the nature of anything w/ $$$ attached to it.

[hmk17]

"yeah the tourny there sux and im not goin to athens as well as brian because playerone piss me off its only me and brian and most of the time we always have to play first round against him ....to bad i won every tourny that they had and brian always lost but yeah im playin magic with brian...so i be at my last regs on feb and try to get my invite and go to nationals maybe but yeah see yall there"


hmmm. if Player 1 is pissing you off, why spend more $$$ there and play MTG? Just kinda confused. Rudy is a friend and has and will always push MTG over any other CCG due to it's longevity. As for MTG as tournament game in Georgia, the biggest problem is a money grubbing T.O. that gives horrble prize support and huge entry fees. Even w/ events for casual players such as pre releases, he has upped the cost and lowered the prize support. As for players, you will find it to be more cutthrout in trading and game play. Just the nature of anything w/ $$$ attached to it.
I keep telling you guys how good VS is...

Great prize support, great TO, no BS players... Seriously.

[teamalphadonald]

i would go but i live in flordia and it is not worth the time for a regional event sorry

[MuchAdo]

I keep telling you guys how good VS is...

Great prize support, great TO, no BS players... Seriously.
Man, if there was anyone in Montgomery that seriously played VS I'd switch from Yu-Gi-Oh. But, our card shop is basically a home for MTG.

[hmk17]

Yeah, you're going to have to hit Florence or Mobile before you get in any VS areas.

[SilentMasterX]

Are there going to be any side events at the tournament?

[Tricky]

hmmm. if Player 1 is pissing you off, why spend more $$$ there and play MTG? Just kinda confused. Rudy is a friend and has and will always push MTG over any other CCG due to it's longevity. As for MTG as tournament game in Georgia, the biggest problem is a money grubbing T.O. that gives horrble prize support and huge entry fees. Even w/ events for casual players such as pre releases, he has upped the cost and lowered the prize support. As for players, you will find it to be more cutthrout in trading and game play. Just the nature of anything w/ $$$ attached to it.
its not im sayin playerone sux its that im tryin to say is there is no skill YGO player there and thats its...im not dissin the store its im just sayin its thats i wish its more skillful player there....me love player one =/

[DarkAssailant]

Man, if there was anyone in Montgomery that seriously played VS I'd switch from Yu-Gi-Oh. But, our card shop is basically a home for MTG.

u shouldnt complain about a lot of magic going on. Its a great game.

[satcher]

11 days. cant wait. i sure hope that i do well. will anyone be running something original like creature swap/ameba? toolbox has just >>>>>>> GA regs. ill prolly run it tho due to great consistancy.

if i go ill be palying jank with 20 mons and 3 thunder dragons im me and ill tell u wat it is ben ok

[DarkAssailant]

well watever works.

[SilentMasterX]

DarkAssailant, do you know if there are going to be any side events at the tournament? It would be a waste to go over there just to play in one tournament then drive all the way back home.

[MuchAdo]

u shouldnt complain about a lot of magic going on. Its a great game.
I'm not complaining, I'm just saying our one gaming shop is dedicated to MTG. I actually liked MTG the 4-5 times I played it, but not enough to get out of yugioh which I am so heavily invested in. I was just saying I wished there were some VS players in Montgomery.

[satcher]

Yeah ben, im 99% sure i cant go. Failed like I think my grades are going to be really bad. Man I really wanted to play that deck too.omg

100/101

[hmk17]

DarkAssailant, do you know if there are going to be any side events at the tournament? It would be a waste to go over there just to play in one tournament then drave all the way back home.
Actually, you'd want to direct that question to me. As I am the head judge for the event.

We offer side events, but mostly we don't have enough people sign up for them. Players tend to go all in for the regional and don't drop until Round 7 or until Swiss rounds are over.

Ask during the event, we will be able to know more fully then.

[Yugioh_Ody]

Hmk being the head judge means only one thing; There must be root beer somewhere nearby.

~Ody

[SilentMasterX]

hmk17 whats your first name then so I can ask you there?

[Oblivion4]

grrraaaaaaaa

[DarkAssailant]

Hmk being the head judge means only one thing; There must be root beer somewhere nearby.

~Ody

yo, David, didnt know u were on this board. sweet! and meh, i prefer cherry pepsi, sold only at gaming pit, i think. but, yeah, i cant wait. like 9 days left or so.

[DarkAssailant]

8 days ppl. whos playin soul control at athens?

[hmk17]

hmk17 whats your first name then so I can ask you there?
My name cannot be spoken in your tongue. To attempt would cause you great pain and discomfort, shredding your vocal chords.

But you can call me Keith.

[DarkAssailant]

keith, dude, ur crazy. But, somehow, we couldn't ask for a better judge.

c yall there.

[ATLUrbanLegend]

ill be there ill be the random idiot whos runnin into walls and doesnt know how to play yugioh

[MuchAdo]

ill be there ill be the random idiot whos runnin into walls and doesnt know how to play yugioh
You don't know how to play yugioh? That makes me feel bad for losing to you two straight times.

[ATLUrbanLegend]

it was a joke i was just tryin to get my number of posts up without spaming i had nothing to really say at the time

[zgoxten]

GL to team gs who all of which will be going except me and nique. I know they will own :) . yay its next week. ill probably still be going to most regionals to see if anyone there plays mtg. :) so u guys will still see me around. I might not be playing tho.

[DarkAssailant]

brian = good player, shudnt have quit.
joe = dangerous
tony = had better top 8
me = well c, huh?

[MuchAdo]

it was a joke i was just tryin to get my number of posts up without spaming i had nothing to really say at the time
yeah, I was going for sarcasm, but like much of life.....I failed.

[hmk17]

Just a note, this regional will mark the return of Nataku to judging. He's taken a little time off to relax and also concentrate on VS.

Also, the Spellcaster Structure deck cards will be legal at this Regional. We are prepared for the questions you will throw at us.

[ATLUrbanLegend]

man maybe b4 the regionals starts i should buy a spellcaster structure deck and play with it

[MuchAdo]

Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out if I should be concerned with spellcaster decks once that thing comes out.

[DarkAssailant]

man maybe b4 the regionals starts i should buy a spellcaster structure deck and play with it

yeah as it is clearly the new cookie, right? the best deck ever. ull be the pwnage.

[Tricky]

i might be able to go nows...but my deck wont be as good as my last one :(

[satcher]

Joe I hate you and the fresh prince of belair SUCKS it was and alwyas be a bad show. HAH

[DarkAssailant]

no satcher, will smith pwns. and btw 6 days, guys.

[ATLUrbanLegend]

oh man satcher how could ya ever diss that show man i swear if i could id totally post the whole theme song

[DarkAssailant]

now this is a story all about how satcher got twist-turned upside down. jk but yeah, dude u deserve like a major swirly for hating on fresh prince. u crazy. but we shud stop this b4 will gets worked up.

[satcher]

This is how obsessed joe is

out of no where he sends me this

ATLUrbanLegend:
Now this is the story all about how My life got flipped, turned
upside down And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air
In West Philadelfia born and raised On the playground where I
spent most of my days Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool
And all shooting some b-ball outside of the school When a couple
of guys said "we're up in no good" Started making trouble in my
neighbourhood I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
And said "you're moving with your aunt and uncle in Bel-Air" I
begged and pleaded with her the other day But she packed my
suitcase and sent me on my way She gave me a kissin' and she
gave me my ticket I put my walkman on and said I might as well
kick it First class, yo this is bad, Drinking orange juice out
of a champagne glass Is this what the people of Bel-Air livin'
like, Hmm this might be alright! I whistled for a cab and when
it came near the Licensplate said "Fresh" and had a dice in the
mirror If anything I could say that this cab was rare But I
thought now forget it, yo home to Bel-Air I pulled up to a
house about seven or eight And I yelled to the cabby "Yo, home
smell you later" Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To
settle my throne as the prince of Bel-Air

[hmk17]

but yeah, dude u deserve like a major swirly for hating on fresh prince.


That can be arranged... j/k

[blueD]

oh man satcher how could ya ever diss that show man i swear if i could id totally post the whole theme song

Joe, the same joe from B-ham? If so dis is blue, iono if u remeber me llol.

[ATLUrbanLegend]

yeah blue i remember you and yeah same joe from birmingham i mean come on now how can anyone forget a guy named blue

[DarkAssailant]

allright just 4 days till the reg, cant wait. and dude satcher, dont hate!!!!!!1111 lol.

[Yugioh_Ody]

It's definetly five days.. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

~Ody

[drizzztdourden]

oh man satcher how could ya ever diss that show man i swear if i could id totally post the whole theme song

thats a catchy theme song... and the show is great =/

[DarkAssailant]

thats a catchy theme song... and the show is great =/

thats y we tell satcher not to hate unless he wants a nasty double-swirly or sumthin lol

[MuchAdo]

I wish Athens wasn't so dat gum far away. I'd love to go to this regional....but 4 hours is just too far. I will be at the Atlanta reg's though.

[satcher]

I just talked to will and um he siad it sucked too. And I just kicked carls ass.

[DarkAssailant]

as i mentioned, i do not want my thread closed. but, yeah inside 4 days left, and a lot of players are prolly still undecided on wat to run. I am not. If u talk to me regularly, u know wat I am running.

[ATLUrbanLegend]

oh come on MuchAdo its worth drivin to athens just to c me right

[MuchAdo]

oh come on MuchAdo its worth drivin to athens just to c me right
from mapquest: Montgomery, AL US Revise | New Directions End

Athens, GA US Revise | New Directions

Total Est. Time: 3 hours, 44 minutes

Total Est. Distance: 230.85 miles


Yeah, maybe if you'll scoop to me :) j/k
No, but I'll be in Marietta next month.

[satcher]

Ill be there 99 percent sure just have to hear from my ride

[SilentMasterX]

Is anyone going to stay at the hotel the night before the tournament like me?

[DarkAssailant]

Is anyone going to stay at the hotel the night before the tournament like me?

sry dude, prolly not. but testing has been going well for me, how bout any1 else? any new decks? hope to see some interesting stuff.

[satcher]

Ill see your mom there

[SilentMasterX]

Ill see your mom there

Who was that directed at? Another question is if anyone is there tommorrow then we could practice duel a few times.

[DarkAssailant]

Ill see your mom there

maybe so, if she were going. GL to all, except you, Satcher. jk

[satcher]

HAH she is going ben with me omg I told you. See you there hoes

[ATLUrbanLegend]

man ill b there man im gonna freakin lose so bad i just started playin yugioh a week ago ill be the one with e hero deck

[hmk17]

****... lol

[DarkAssailant]

man ill b there man im gonna freakin lose so bad i just started playin yugioh a week ago ill be the one with e hero deck

dude, u really r a newb. exodia is totally the cookie right now. u shud play exodia, its the best dude. lol

[MuchAdo]

dude, u really r a newb. exodia is totally the cookie right now. u shud play exodia, its the best dude. lol
No way man....it's all about the Law of the Normal weenie rush deck. Didn't you know?

[Dutch]

See you all there :)

[DarkAssailant]

See you all there :)

GL dude, as long as u dont play me again. lol

actually, GL to evry1. It shud b a good one. btw, I am going with lame old toolbox, not ffc, which is a better deck.

[Dutch]

Just didn't feel like getting out of bed this morning. Atlanta players usually make these regionals happen (40-50+ players). Curious how many they get this time. If more then 50% then things might have to change. The test period for Unity was a year and that has passed. I believe UDE won't mind to change things back.

[OrangeEyesRedDragon]

man ill b there man im gonna freakin lose so bad i just started playin yugioh a week ago ill be the one with e hero deck

Just started playing and you're already at a regs? Isn't that a little...hasty?

[blueD]

Meh I hope yall Regional is not 20 dollar liek my last one. I'm already not a big fan on Unity /=

[MuchAdo]

Just started playing and you're already at a regs? Isn't that a little...hasty?
Uhhh....he's just kidding. He's won the last two regionals he's played in I believe.

Meh I hope yall Regional is not 20 dollar liek my last one. I'm already not a big fan on Unity /=
Unity didn't do the regional in Birmingham. Mindgames did.

[Yugioh_Ody]

Yup. Team GS won this regionals. Everyone that attended from GS got top 16, I must give props to Nick Davidson who hasn't played yugioh for 9 weeks. He got into a car wreck 9 weeks ago and hasn't player a game since. He came to this regional qualifier and won it. Good going Nick.

~Ody

[LiscoP2000]

i have to say yes nick was great today he was my only lost today. Lost to him in round four and in the top 4 lost to him again. so great gjob nick hope i play u again at Nats:D

[Mr. C]

What kind of deck won it?

[Torrential]

9th isn't good... =/ Stupid Jujutsu master....

[Tricky]

sexi most of out team got top 16 thats=equal sexi well me and brian prolly be goin to go to the next regs...but man im kinda piss i wasnt there to see my team do good

[drizzztdourden]

this is random, but what does GS stand for?

[Yugioh_Ody]

The store in Athens, Georgia whcih sponsors us is called Grand Slam Sports Cards, and GSSC is too long so we narrowed it down to Team GS.

~Ody

[mrhydega]

Well, I'm happy with my performance! This was my first Regionals and I came in at 8th place!:D I had so much fun even though I was cold and hungry and sleep deprived.......:(

[LiscoP2000]

nice burn deck hyde very nice.

[Aethereal]

Who all made top 8?

[mrhydega]

nice burn deck hyde very nice.

Thank you, but I can't take the credit for it. One of my team mates built it for me. The thing is, it kept getting called a burn deck but it wasn't meant to be one. It was origionally supposed to be a flip-control deck. The burn, however, made a nice alternative win condition (and extremely useful one at that:) ). If anything, I would say it was a John Kerry Deck: lots of flip-flopping and if you don't watch out, you'll get burned!:D Oh, yes, I DID go there.....

There was just so much for my opponent to try and deal with if I could get it all set up nicely. The 3 Solemn Judgments really helped, too.

[zgoxten]

was GS wearing their shirts? btw im not going to enter in anymore regionals.

$15 for only prize support in Top 8??? WTF

I'd rather use my $15 to go buy me another bop or something.

[blueD]

was GS wearing their shirts? btw im not going to enter in anymore regionals.

$15 for only prize support in Top 8??? WTF

I'd rather use my $15 to go buy me another bop or something.

EDIT: I was stoned ..enuff said =/

[Dutch]

I have to disagree. You would rather prize support go to the jobbers? 5-2 isn't a great record to deserve packs. Also it would reduce the prize for the top 8. I have won a regional from Unity were I haven't gotten a full box. Not a great feeling. Just my 2 cents.

Dutch

[satcher]

Man I was 3-1 Then won and was supposd to be 4-1 and forgot to fill out my match slip so did the guy I beat and all the jdges hd to do was call us up there to sign it but nah they said lets be mean and lazy to satcher match loss lol so yeah i got like paired down and had to play lame david gordan lol (j/k david) and wanted to have some fun and sided in all my burn from my side deck and lost lol loved the deck gordan lol after that I had to get my trade on. HAHAHAHAHAH JOE YOU DIDNT TOP 8 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

[hmk17]

Overall, great regional today. I enjoyed it! First Regional in Georgia to not have a single rulings appeal. We're learning you stuff... Today, we had 90+ people there, a good sign for the out-of-Atlanta tour. What's even better was that the Top 4 were not some of the "regulars". With the finals between a guy who hadn't played in a long while facing a guy playing in his first Regional. Both out played many other competitors and were not deemed "luck sacks".

Now to comments at hand:

First off, you guys forget that Prize support is based on how many people attend. Lower turnouts result in smaller prizes and prize pool... If we clear 110 or so, everyone in the Top 4 gets a box. Higher up sees the Top 8 getting a box each. Hitting 120 will have the prize pool extend down to 16th. The higher the attendance the farther it down it trickles. One of the regionals at Colossal had prizes down to 32nd... Why? 165 people will do that. the Regional after the Shonen Jump had an extended prize pool as well due to 160+ people.

You want a good prize pool... don't sit on your butt making sniping comments at the game/people/tournaments; but get out there with a lot of other people and play in the event. (This especially applies when you say you are quitting/ have quit the game. Deal some with Southeast Magic and their ways... you'll be begging for Unity soon.)

I've been examining this and it is a possibility that having 1 Regional every month might be too much. It could be the main factor driving down the attendance statewide. Our larger Regionals have come on the heels of some kind of drought or hiatus... It's something I'm going to talk to Unity about in the near future.

If you want Atlanta Metro to be the home of all things Yugi, then you guys better but up triple digits in the next two Regionals there... Prove Untiy wrong that they have to go to the other players in the state to keep this fresh.

As for prizes, today was decent for that size. The Top 2 each got 1 box of product in addition to the playmat and invite. I'm not certain how much 6-8 pulled, but 3 & 4 got 1/2 a box.

@ Blue

Blue, first, Mindgames ran Birmingham; not Unity. Please make sure you are correct before you try trashing them. Mindgames runs anything north of Tuscaloosa in AL. Unity Entertianment runs everything to the south. (They are the TO of the upcoming Mobile regional so you will be able to see the difference first hand.) Now you know.

Unity Regionals are $15, with a $5 late fee occurring after Registration has been open for 45 minutes. I've heard that other state PTO's have charged a lot more than $20, with even less support; so be grateful this is one of the cheaper ones.

Trust me, cost per player & prize support is way better with Unity than what Mindgames gave you guys and you had way more people too.

Additional Comment:
Man I was 3-1 Then won and was supposd to be 4-1 and forgot to fill out my match slip so did the guy I beat and all the jdges hd to do was call us up there to sign it but nah they said lets be mean and lazy to satcher match loss lol so yeah i got like paired down and had to play lame david gordan lol (j/k david) and wanted to have some fun and sided in all my burn from my side deck and lost lol loved the deck gordan lol after that I had to get my trade on. HAHAHAHAHAH JOE YOU DIDNT TOP 8 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
It is not the judges' or staff's responsibility to hold a player's hand and remind him to do basic tournament stuff through out the day.

You were actually lucky, given the circumstances.

[satcher]

LOL lucky nah I am not trying to get on your bad side or anything im not mad It just would of been nice for you to use like -1 percent of your enegry to call us up there but I mean i know it was stupid of me and shows how much of a noob I am but eh now dont come back with like anything to reply to this I guess I got what you thought i deserved and its ok Keith YOU are the man. And Victor I take back all i have ever said about you if you stall/play slow thats cool even if I play you and you win the same way you did last time its cool GJ everyone AHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA JOE DIDNT TOP 8 HAHAHAHHAA HAA HAA AHAHAHAHAH

[Yugioh_Ody]

The regional qualifier had a great turnout considering the lack of posts from different users. It was good to see that the new deck type I ran did pretty good. With a few minor adjustments, it should be the best in the Metagame. After all the trash I got for running it and then slapping the people down that said it wouldn't work was a great feeling. GJ to everyone that top 8ed.

~Ody

[Aethereal]

You guys should try another Regional in Augusta, as it pulls players from both here and from South Carolina and the last one had a turnout of over 100.

(And I'm totally not biased because I live in Augusta. Really! ;))

[blueD]

Ah I see, well it my fault. I appolgize for being a **** bout it =(

[drizzztdourden]

kevin, yea another augusta would be hot... its only an hour away from columbia :D

[Dutch]

Yeah "Hot" would be the word to describe the Regional in Augusta. By far, the worst run Regional as far as Unity Entertainment. The fault lies in the store it was run @. I still wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat hearing the words...."Who got the Chicken Tenders ?!?!"

[drizzztdourden]

Yeah "Hot" would be the word to describe the Regional in Augusta. By far, the worst run Regional as far as Unity Entertainment. The fault lies in the store it was run @. I still wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat hearing the words...."Who got the Chicken Tenders ?!?!"

oh god, i forgot all about that =/, that store had air conditioning problems or somethin

[Aethereal]

The store did suck, yeah. That store is really suffering as far as its weekly tournaments I think, as we're starting to get alot of their players at my store (and my store is too small for a Regs).

I heard rumors about a possible regionals at Augusta State University, though...

[LiscoP2000]

It'll be nice for me to go to Augusta since i never been there before but if the store had problems them i think it will be cool to have it at the college just my 2 cents:D

[drizzztdourden]

It'll be nice for me to go to Augusta since i never been there before but if the store had problems them i think it will be cool to have it at the college just my 2 cents:D

id go for the college fo sho... augusta reg was cool... its just that it was hot as hell in there

[yaming]

I dont understand why both of you got a match loss for forgeting to sign the match slip, the head judge must have been in a bad mood to do that to you guys

[LiscoP2000]

also hmk17 3 & 4 got 18 pack i was shocked to get that much. i hope i can get another playmat at the next reg and i hope my brother gets his invite there too.:eek:

[vapimp]

how did every one do?

[LiscoP2000]

did ok i wanted to win but top 4 was ok:cool:

[drizzztdourden]

also hmk17 3 & 4 got 18 pack i was shocked to get that much. i hope i can get another playmat at the next reg and i hope my brother gets his invite there too.:eek:

18 packs? wow... most ive heard of was half a box

[Aethereal]

I heard a rumor that there may be an Augusta regional at Augusta State University...

(If so, it'll likely be held at the Christenberry Fieldhouse which is down the street. Everywhere else is A) in use or B) too small.)

[User#1337]

18 packs? wow... most ive heard of was half a box
really? For the regionals in Oklahoma (Like twice a year maybe) it's always T4 get a box, and the rest of T8 get half a box.

[DarkAssailant]

yo, i scrubbed again, lol. GJ, Nick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

Also gj to Jay, u da man.

Other comments:

- Keith, ur the best judge, keep it up
- Mike, good to see u again
- Joe, sry bout 11th place
- Jordan H., dude, top 4 next time! lol
- Dakota, thanx for the help man
- Tony will never top 8
- Raheel, 9th again, ur cursed.
- Jim, top 8ed again, YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111
- Andrew Ahn, 4-3 just like me, losr. jk = /

That about covers it i think.

[LiscoP2000]

U did good Ben a.k.a Dark but i wish i played u and beat u then my top 4 would have been alot more sweeter than it was but know i really hope i get u at Nats now buddy also my teammate said he wants to beat the rest of ur team. But like i said GJ at athens and now u have a fellow alumi from comic company going to Nats with u lmao and i aint lost my skills.:D

[Zombie_Sith_Lord]

I did horrible; I was 4-3 and the rest of my team didn't do any better except for mrhydega His first Regionals and he toped 8. All I can say is "Bravo!"

[Dutch]

Very happy I didn't attend this Regional. Some very nice people finally got invites to Nats. I really don't need any more mats or packs fromthis horrible set. Congrats to all and see you at the pre release.

[satcher]

I dont understand why both of you got a match loss for forgeting to sign the match slip, the head judge must have been in a bad mood to do that to you guys

no he wasnt in a bad mood he saw my name and said heres my chance

[MuchAdo]

I'm just curious to know if anyone saw a competitve spellcaster build running around after the new structure?

[yaming]

satcher I dont know bout all that, but forgetting to sign a match slip is not a match loss because it takes 3 seconds to look to see who has not turned in their slip(because any number of things could have happen) an call them over to see who won.

[hmk17]

yaming, I don't know who you are; but you are definitely ignorant of a lot of what is going on here.

I was the head judge for the event and was not in a bad mood that day.

Also, again it is not the staff's responsibility to coax people into turning in their slips on time and signed. If the 10 year olds can do it, we think everyone can.

Also, your opinion on the penalty doesn't matter. We go straight by the book and that is a Match Loss. Classified in the UDE Policy - Procedural Error–Severe (Penalty: Match Loss).

Now, you think we can just ask them... okay, what happens if both say they win... hmm?

@ Satcher

I actually find it very insulting that you think "We are out to get you."

Let's review the last 3 times I've given you a penalty... Umm, the only one I can remember is on Saturday. And the last time you got a warning was in the deck check at Columbus.

You're a little too paranoid for your own good. I said you were lucky, because, this was not the worst that could have happened. Your opponent could have forged the slip turned it in and you would have not known until after the pairings... Trust me, that slip is very important. After the game is over, treat it all the respect and care you can.

@ much ado

Suprisingly, I didn't see any. A lot of players were surprised the deck was out. I'd seen it in a few stores last week, so... but E-heroes were every where. Still didn't Top 8 though.

2 Stall burn decks made it to T8, but ran into people who knew how to play against it/sided for it.

@ Dutch

Not too much longer until we see a new set and new play options...

[yaming]

P-15 Procedural Error–Severe (Penalty: Match Loss)
This penalty is appropriate for an unintentional infraction that causes a player to be unable to finish the remainder of the match.

Example:
• A player spills water on a significant portion of his or her deck, ruining the
cards and making him or her unable to finish the remainder of the match.
• A player loses his or her deck between matches, but does not discover this
until the round has been paired.

hmk17 I'm ignorant, really. thats the penalty you gave him, really that does not desrcribe what he did. An it does not matter with the explanation you gave because if they did sign the paper they both still could say they win, so don't use that excuse.

From what you guys are saying if I had to pick anything it would go under it would be P-30 Unsporting Conduct-Major and even then thats REFUSAL to sign the match slip, and UDE policy allows you to show some lenientancy and downgrade the penalty

[DarkAssailant]

comic company players seemed to pilot rogue decks to surprising success. GJ guys. also teammates top 8ing rox. but me scrubbing yet again sukd. also a teammate got 9th. that just plain sux.

[hmk17]

P-15 Procedural Error–Severe (Penalty: Match Loss)
This penalty is appropriate for an unintentional infraction that causes a player to be unable to finish the remainder of the match.

Example:
• A player spills water on a significant portion of his or her deck, ruining the
cards and making him or her unable to finish the remainder of the match.
• A player loses his or her deck between matches, but does not discover this
until the round has been paired.

hmk17 I'm ignorant, really. thats the penalty you gave him, really that does not desrcribe what he did. An it does not matter with the explanation you gave because if they did sign the paper they both still could say they win, so don't use that excuse.

From what you guys are saying if I had to pick anything it would go under it would be P-30 Unsporting Conduct-Major and even then thats REFUSAL to sign the match slip, and UDE policy allows you to show some lenientancy and downgrade the penalty
The head judge (a level 2) and the TO (a level 3) agreed upon that being the closest one fitting the problem as each guidline has leeway to it. We also base our player management rulings off of prior rulings from inside our organization and things we get from UDE. Remember, the examples given are not the end all to that rule.

Satcher and his opponent would not have been able to complete the match due to their error. Hence completetion of the match being defined as the slip is filled out and turned in once game play is over.

"My excuse"? I wasn't making one. I stated that, merely illustrating the potenial problem that arises from your suggestion of "just ask them". Believe it or not, people will try to cheat in this game. Then what? Do we flip a coin or roll a die to see who's telling the truth? Or do we break out the lie detector? At that point you can't tell.

Once something gets on paper, it is very hard to lie at that point. People can easily identify handwriting, and us having handwriting samples on file (Reg slips & deck lists) makes it easy for us to back up peoples claims.

It shows your ignorance in that you don't know how tournament operation is done here. Our measures have eliminated most of the tournament fraud before it can occur. The winner of each match turns in the slip, which is one of the announcements of every regional. Good grief, you have to show picture ID if you choose to drop. We are overly thorough.

But your selection your selection of a penalty shows a lack of understanding about the situation in general.

P-30 Unsporting Conduct–Major (Penalty: Match Loss)
Players are expected to behave in a sporting and professional manner towards
other players, spectators, and tournament officials. This penalty is appropriate for major violations of the tournament rules.

Examples:
• A player uses profanity to argue with the official head judge about a ruling.
• A player throws his deck in frustration after losing a match.
• A player writes on tablecloths or defaces the tournament area.
• A player refuses to sign or rips up a match result slip.

You are willing to downgrade a player conduct penalty based off an example. Failing to turn in a match results slip is a procedural error. You lack understanding of the nature and spirit of these penalties, which basically says its a moot point to argue with you.

While you try to defend against the "mean ol' judges", you have to realize that just because we CAN downgrade a penalty doesn't make it the smart thing to do. Each of the procedural penalties has an Error and Consequence teaching application.

Satcher learned something Staurday, always promptly sign the slip and turn it in. I doubt he'll make that mistake any time soon, and he'll be a better player for it.

He won't get better if someone randomly posts his feelings that the judges are mean, especially in light that he doesn't know the Staff or apparently how the penalty system works.

So this is where I'm going to end this. I assume you will read this and promptly flame me. Personally, I don't care. I've worked enough events and and talked with enough people to know exactly what I am doing. And your opinion of that, doesn't matter.

[yaming]

hmk17- satcher said that he won the match already meaning the game was over already and it was that him and his opponent just forgot to sign the match slip, did you even bother to try to verify who one the match by calling them and asking them because people sometimes do tell the truth, you got him on procedural error-severe which causes a player to be unable to finish a match but from what you 2 said the match was over already, and I did not say it was a unsporting conduct-major - I said that was the closest thing I could find for this situation, and I going by the last exaple in there, where it says

• A player refuses to sign or rips up a match result slip

but like I said they did not REFUSE to sign it they just forgot

I'm just glad I dont have you as my head judge for regionals, not only would I hate playing I would hate judgeing to.

[satcher]

Look im not trying to start anyhting I am just saying it was a mistake everybody forgets to do things. Now I know if that would of been dutch/oscar/ben/etc they would not of recieved a match loss I am sure

[DarkAssailant]

= P, satcher, = P. jk, i wudda got the loss. Keiths not that unfair, besides he announced it while u and andrew were acting like ******s at the front.

[yaming]

no hes defending what he ruled but, he clearly ruled it under the wrong penalty. I just dont see how he thinks this would fall under that penalty.

Additional Comment:
8. Head Judge Responsibilities
A head judge is the final authority at a tournament. No other person, not even the
tournament organizer, can overturn the ruling of the head judge. The head judge issues
rulings, keeps the tournament running, and manages the entire judging staff. The head
judge may not play in the same tournament that he or she is currently judging.
A head judge must follow all of the appropriate listed responsibilities of a player
(Section 6) and an assistant judge (Section 7). A head judge has the following
additional responsibilities:
• Be physically present and available throughout the tournament.
• Ensure all match results are submitted as soon as the round is finished.
• Ensure the scorekeeper prepares the next round pairings quickly.
• Ensure the start and end of a round are clearly and efficiently communicated to
all players and judges.
• Ensure match result slips are handed out quickly and efficiently.
• Be available to moderate rulings which players have appealed.
• Ensure all judges are properly listed, if MANTIS software is being used.
• Ensure assistant judges are aware of their responsibilities and duties.


hmk17- you said (it is not the staff's responsibility to coax people into turning in their slips on time and signed) really, I guess dot #2 is wrong along with UDE, and you are right.

hmk17-- I do belive that is GAME,SET, and MATCH

[satcher]

LOL yeah ben me and andrew had fun lol. But I did hear him say that this is the first time I have ever forgotten. I asked some of my friends and one of them said he forgot to sign one at a sjc and they called him and his opp up to the desk and asked who won and set it right. I have nothing agianst any judge never have and never will. But that match loss killed my chances of top 8. The only round I lost in was to the guy who won it and it was a very very close match. I deciede to drop but then I said ill have some fun. But I know I would of top 8ed with only 2 rounds left.

[hinky]

It was Annouced twice for all tables to turn in the result entry slips. It was also announced at the beginning that the winner was responsible for turning it in. The fact of the matter is after those announcements the round went over ten minutes becuase 1 table was still out. Not turning in the result entry slip cuases the tournament to take longer then it would normally. It is not the Judges fualt that Satcher Forgot to make sure the slip was signed. Becuase of Satcher the players that were doing there job were forced to wait.

I understand that satcher made an honest mistake but giving out penalties ensures he won't do it agian.

And satcher to be honest you've Played in enough of these tournaments to know you have to turn in that slip. And you also know how much of a pain it can be to have to wait for a match to be put in. I'm sure you won't forget to hand it in again.

[yaming]

hinky yes it is his fault to but the penalty he got for it was not the right one, the head judge did not do his full job,(it is his job to get the match result) hmk17 is making an excuse for his mistake. I'm not trying to be mean I'm just telling the truth it was a mistake, there's nothing you can do about it but learn from it.

[satcher]

OMGSH its not a big deal. We all need to like stop. There was a mistake on both ends me not siging my slip and the judges by handing out whe wrong penalty and I havent learned a thing because I have never had a problem with this. I have to turn them in at my local tourney and I never forget. Me and my opp must of not seen it or something because if I did I would of signed it. This just shows me to turn them like twice as much I guess.

[yaming]

no satcher I was not making a big deal out of it until he said that I was ignorant, when he disrespected me, thats when I thought I should enlighten him

[MuchAdo]

no satcher I was not making a big deal out of it until he said that I was ignorant, when he disrespected me, thats when I thought I should enlighten him

yaming, I don't know who you are; but you are definitely ignorant of a lot of what is going on here.



Uhhhh...he didn't say you were ignorant. He said you were ignorant of the situation being discussed. There is a bit of a difference in those two statements. And as far as respect, he doesn't have to respect you. It's not your right to be universally respected. The guy is a great judge who has done an excellent job at every tournament I've played where he judged. Get over it.

[yaming]

as for him being a great judge I will take your word for it, but that was a bad call on his part

[satcher]

yaming I didnt mean just you It was aimed at all of us. But I really do thank you for seeing it my way the right way.

[ATLUrbanLegend]

peace love and prosperity

[DarkAssailant]

peace love and prosperity

and also chicken fingers (inside joke-augusta reg)

[JTGodfather]

From a different perspective (Florida Judge), the actions taken by HMK17 were correct, we are supposed to make sure all matches once done are recorded as soon as possible. This does not mean we're going to be standing by each table waiting for the results. You are told at every regional to bring the match result slip up to the judges or drop it in a basket that we usually have out on the table. Players who forget and didn't turn in their slip in a timely fashion will be given a match loss, end of story.

Like HMK said anyone wanting to flame me be my guess, am not replying to anything else, this issue is mute in my opinion.

[NephthysPhoenix]

Well I got a question for HMK.

Im a head judge at my local tournament and I know enough to be a level 2 (not three yet). I answer a lot of the questions in Trading card q and a form to a difficult level.

My question is for you:

1. What do you do about judges that:

a. The judges tell the player how to make a move?

Ex.

Player A: JUDGE!
Judge comes over
Player A: Can I activate this to this?
judge: Respond saying they can

I know their not suppose to do that, and I get it all the time. I tell them once "I cant tell you how to make your moves. Make them first then I will tell you your mistakes."

Then they whine.

I'm just curious, because I like to see other judges P.O.V's on things, because it's basically helping the player winning.

[yaming]

JTGodfather you agree with hmk17, ok can you look at this

Procedural Error–Severe (Penalty: Match Loss)

This penalty is appropriate for an unintentional infraction that causes a player to be unable to finish the remainder of the match.

Example:
1. A player spills water on a significant portion of his or her deck, ruining the cards and making him or her unable to finish the remainder of the match.
2. A player loses his or her deck between matches, but does not discover this until the round has been paired.

this is the penalty he gave to him, but satcher and hmk17 both agreed the match was over. This penalty only applies to unintentional infraction that causes a player to be UNABLE TO FINISH THE REMAINDER OF THE MATCH. Can u explain to me why this penalty would apply to there situation.

[DarkAssailant]

the topic no longer matters. satcher and keith (hmk17) have forgotten about it and moved on with their lives and so shud evry1 else. stop beating a dead horse and trying to get my thread closed by will.

[NephthysPhoenix]

the topic no longer matters. satcher and keith (hmk17) have forgotten about it and moved on with their lives and so shud evry1 else. stop beating a dead horse and trying to get my thread closed by will.

Im sorry about that. I deleted it.

[hmk17]

Well I got a question for HMK.

Im a head judge at my local tournament and I know enough to be a level 2 (not three yet). I answer a lot of the questions in Trading card q and a form to a difficult level.

My question is for you:

1. What do you do about judges that:

a. The judges tell the player how to make a move?

Ex.

Player A: JUDGE!
Judge comes over
Player A: Can I activate this to this?
judge: Respond saying they can

I know their not suppose to do that, and I get it all the time. I tell them once "I cant tell you how to make your moves. Make them first then I will tell you your mistakes."

Then they whine.

I'm just curious, because I like to see other judges P.O.V's on things, because it's basically helping the player winning.

I'll be more than happy to discuss this with you through Private message. So just cut and paste this and I can help you out. Also, we might have met. Were you at Shonen Jump Atlanta?

@ The gathering crowd

Okay, as I stated before. I am not saying anything else in this. I will not stoop to the level of arguing on a forum. I do not know why a random person from Pennsylvania is trying to argue this point about a random kid he doesn't know. But I figure he has earned this much... from me based off sheer number of posts and the fact that he is still woefully confused. After this, I've said my peace. Ben, you can ask that your own thread be closed and it won't count against you.

@ yaming

You want to try and argue this point, but you are failing miserably. However, the Cut and Paste skills are superb. I see people saying I'm right. That really had burn didn't it. And probably why this last batch of cut and paste hate.

I am quite aware of my responsibilites as a head judge. From what I have gathered by your demeanor, rationalizations, and actions; you have not been one. You cut and pasted those responsibilites to me...


8. Head Judge Responsibilities
A head judge is the final authority at a tournament. No other person, not even the tournament organizer, can overturn the ruling of the head judge.

The head judge issues rulings, keeps the tournament running, and manages the entire judging staff.

The head judge may not play in the same tournament that he or she is currently judging.

A head judge must follow all of the appropriate listed responsibilities of a player (Section 6) and an assistant judge (Section 7). A head judge has the following additional responsibilities:

• Be physically present and available throughout the tournament.
• Ensure all match results are submitted as soon as the round is finished.
• Ensure the scorekeeper prepares the next round pairings quickly.
• Ensure the start and end of a round are clearly and efficiently communicated to all players and judges.
• Ensure match result slips are handed out quickly and efficiently.
• Be available to moderate rulings which players have appealed.
• Ensure all judges are properly listed, if MANTIS software is being used.
• Ensure assistant judges are aware of their responsibilities and duties.

An underline is game, set, match? Sadly, no. Again, this just shows you have no understanding of this entails in a Premiere event.

In a tournament of 10 people, the head judge can feasibly pick up each slip and still maintain a floor presecence.

In a tournament of 90+ (as this one was), that is unfeasable. For larger tournaments like SJC's where attendance is 200+, it is impossible.

A typical regional has a staff of 4. TO/Scorekeeper, Head Judge, 2x Assistant Judges. The TO never leaves his station, so that leaves 3 people to handle 90+ on the floor.

This is why we have rules and set procedures. The most important being that I announce this. (This is an actual quote from my announcements sheet.) "The winner of each match fills out the slip, both players sign it, then the winner brings it to the registration table and turns it in."

You have twice called this making an excuse... its the way we do things and if a player cannot follow that, he can either suffer a penalty for it or leave. It's that simple.

Since you want to quote responsibilities... here are a player's responsibilities:

6. Player Responsibilities
UDE players have the following responsibilities, whether they are currently involved in a tournament or not:

• Know and follow the most current and applicable TCG rules and UDE
tournament policies.
• Follow instructions of any judge or tournament official.
• Ensure they only register for one UDE membership number.
• Act in a sporting and respectful manner at all times.
• Act responsibly and professionally while at, or near, the tournament site.
• Clearly communicate each move that they make during game play.
• Keep their hands and cards above the table during matches.
• Notify an opponent if he or she fails to follow any game rules or incorrectly
tracks game score or life totals during a match, regardless of whom the error
benefits.
• Avoid talking to any spectators during a match.
• Avoid swearing or using inappropriate language or gestures.
• Avoid wearing inappropriate or offensive clothing.
• Avoid making offensive comments to any player or official.
• Avoid insulting opponents or opponents’ strategies and play skills.
• Maintain accurate birth date and contact information for his or her UDE
membership account.
• Maintain an accurate tournament rating. If a player notices anything unusual or
incorrect about his or her rating, he or she must email ude@upperdeck.com
immediately.

Did you pay attention to the underlined parts? The tournament staff sets up the tournament regulations in a manner to help them manage the players. The players have the responsibility to act professionally and to follow the head judge's direction. Neither was done in this situation thus resulting in the problem.

Also, I'll point you to another part of my duties:

• Be physically present and available throughout the tournament.

I cannot leave the tournament floor from Announcements to Finals. I periodically take restroom breaks between rounds, but I HAVE to be on that floor every second of gameplay. To have accomodated your suggestion, in finding the players and certifying the results, I would have to break part of my duties as players are instructed to leave the game floor once the match is over.


The interesting part of this is that you cannot grasp the overarcing nature of a Procedural Error.

In laymans terms, it means the dude screwed up something bad...

As stated in one of my earlier posts... We have a definition of what a match is. This is a more complete definition of what I listed earlier.

A Yugioh match is defined as this - One series of a best 2 out of 3 games, where upon completion of the games the proper documentation is filled out and reported truthfully and accurately to the Scorekeeper.

Upon the definition we use, can you see why this would be considered an unintentional infraction that causes a player to be UNABLE TO FINISH THE REMAINDER OF THE MATCH.

A match is not over until the slip is signed. Game play may have ceased, but the match is not done. That's why the intial penalty you suggested exists, for people who don't want the match to be done and reported.

Debate semantics about you consider a match be. Try to cut and paste yourself to a moral high ground. It really doesn't matter...

My hope is that you truly do not act this way towards other judges.

[NephthysPhoenix]

PM you.

Thanks for taking the time to listen :D, and yes i was at Alanta.

[yaming]

hmk17 man wow, I was not saying you had to go around collecting them all. I'm saying all you have to do is talk to the T.O. or who ever is in control of mantis and see which games are still out when there is 3 or 4 min. left in the round and send a 1 or 2 assistant judges over to see if there is a problem or if there games are still out, but nooooo your going to be lazy about it. I just hope when I'm a lv2 judge I'm not as lazy as you, but then again I dont have to worry about being the head judge at my regional because I have 2 of the best lv3 judges in the game that are head judges for my regionals.