the next big list

[yaming]

ok this is just my thoughts for the next list, im just going to list my changes that I think would make it better, I might forget somethings but these are my major changes.

new to the ban

DD warrior lady-way to powerful, being able to CHOOSE to remove or not to. there are other things to use for monster removal(like smashings,fissure) and if u want to remove sangan or spirt reaper from game use some chain disappearance. u still have dd warrior

Heavy storm- hey what can i say there are a crap load of other magic an trap removal, use them(dust t.,mobius) try some trunades

off the ban list

restrict to 1
painful choice-this will open up some new decks and some old ones(skull servant,strike ninja) let u use those pot of avarice a little faster, and dont worry I will water down some of those other cards that combo with this.

restrict to 1

smashing ground- its better than all the others that are like it thats why i did this, try using some fissures or hammer shots

bazoo-with painful off and no rest with fiber jar this would just be to mean untoched an dont want it to be new cc, and bazoo at 2500 takes out every standard tribute monster thats used right now

cyber dragon- do I realy need to say anything about this, 3 is disturbing 2 is still mean, u want to keep using this do it with pot of avarice(and im not doing this because I dont have any because I have 3)

creature swap- this is to mean even at 2, u no u dont like giving ur monster to get an atk pos. goat or a searcher

return from the different dimension- with painful off we might see a new wave of special summon monsters that need graveyard removal to get on field

last turn- not sure on this


semi-limited to 2

dimension fusion- same thing as return from a different dimension

messenger of peace- hey if gbind and llab is at 2 then this should be to

dda-u know why, u want to play warriors try some others

dust tornado- theres other spell an trap removal(+ Ive done some sick an wrong things with this and blade knight on field and 2 cards in hand)

Breaker- I dont want to here anything about me putting this at 2, it makes spellcaster decks alittle better, and if ur that worried about it switch those sakuretsu armors to trap holes

pot of avarice- with painful off this needs to be put at two

book of moon- this is mainly to counter brain control in monarch decks(if u realy want to tribute my monster use soul exchange and skip that battle phase) I dont know maybe this should stay at 1

metamorphisis- I dont see why with 1000 eyes still at 1, would open up more varity(still not to sure about this)

ok this is all I can think of right now, so if u like tell me if not i guess u still can tell me, everything else on the list would remain the same.

[DMOC2826]

ok this is just my thoughts for the next list, im just going to list my changes that I think would make it better, I might forget somethings but these are my major changes.

new to the ban

DD warrior lady-way to powerful, being able to CHOOSE to remove or not to. there are other things to use for monster removal(like smashings,fissure) and if u want to remove sangan or spirt reaper from game use some chain disappearance. u still have dd warrior

Heavy storm- hey what can i say there are a crap load of other magic an trap removal, use them(dust t.,mobius) try some trunades

off the ban list

restrict to 1
painful choice-this will open up some new decks and some old ones(skull servant,strike ninja) let u use those pot of avarice a little faster, and dont worry I will water down some of those other cards that combo with this.

restrict to 1

smashing ground- its better than all the others that are like it thats why i did this, try using some fissures or hammer shots

bazoo-with painful off and no rest with fiber jar this would just be to mean untoched an dont want it to be new cc, and bazoo at 2500 takes out every standard tribute monster thats used right now

cyber dragon- do I realy need to say anything about this, 3 is disturbing 2 is still mean, u want to keep using this do it with pot of avarice(and im not doing this because I dont have any because I have 3)

creature swap- this is to mean even at 2, u no u dont like giving ur monster to get an atk pos. goat or a searcher

return from the different dimension- with painful off we might see a new wave of special summon monsters that need graveyard removal to get on field

last turn- not sure on this


semi-limited to 2

dimension fusion- same thing as return from a different dimension

messenger of peace- hey if gbind and llab is at 2 then this should be to

dda-u know why, u want to play warriors try some others

dust tornado- theres other spell an trap removal(+ Ive done some sick an wrong things with this and blade knight on field and 2 cards in hand)

Breaker- I dont want to here anything about me putting this at 2, it makes spellcaster decks alittle better, and if ur that worried about it switch those sakuretsu armors to trap holes

pot of avarice- with painful off this needs to be put at two

book of moon- this is mainly to counter brain control in monarch decks(if u realy want to tribute my monster use soul exchange and skip that battle phase) I dont know maybe this should stay at 1

metamorphisis- I dont see why with 1000 eyes still at 1, would open up more varity(still not to sure about this)

ok this is all I can think of right now, so if u like tell me if not i guess u still can tell me, everything else on the list would remain the same.

DDWL is not ban-worthy
Heavy Storm makes player think twice about flooding their field with spell and trap cards.
Two words for Painful Choice> Exodia Deck
^OTK hand> Painful Choice, Exodia the Forbidden One, Dark Factrory of Mass Production(x2)= gg
Smashing ground does not need to be limited to 1, it isn't that powerful.
Cyber Dragon is overrated IMO. Its biggest thing is field advantage, it can easily be smashed next turn or retsued.
RftDD is too slow and situational to restrict to 1 per deck IMO
Breaker stays at 1, not 2.
Nobody would run 2 Pots of Avarice in their decks, even if Painful Choice was brought back.
Book of Moon and Metamorph are better off at 1 per deck.

[Hiro-Sakano]

I would add some more and remove others, let me think...

Banned

Cyber Jar: because you allow Pot of Avarice x2 and Painful Choice.
Morphing Jar: same here. (and I am tired of that overpriced piece of paper)
Black Hole: it may take some time to get banned, until there is a tuned/themed version.
Mage Power: generic equip, too easy to pump up, and no Heavy Storm.
United we Stand: same, altough there are better ways to pump up.
Premature Burial: not so fast, but there is Seal of Inheritance approaching.
Call of the Haunted: not too sure, but it can be.
Royal Decree: just to be sure that some players could try different traps.
Sangan: there are elemental searchers, and force KoJ/UDE to make some other subs.

Restrict to 1
Breaker: well, I don´t want to see 2 breakers in every CC¬¬ they will replace DDWL.

Restrict to 2
D.D Warrior: just to be sure... people are stupid enough to thrust on D.Ds
M.S Typhoon: Just in case Jinzo or Decree problems.
Cyber Dragon: I know, this is annoying, but CED can be fused with ProtoCyber Dragon.

There could be more, but I can´t say anything unless I get a good point.

[FFTARoxorz05]

Why the hell would they semi-restrict DDA when cc decks don't run more than 2 anyway? Same with Pot of Avarice. Dust Tornado is nowhere near worthy of restricting *especially* if they semi-restrict Breaker.

That restricted list sucks; Cyber Dragon isn't the end all of awesomeness, Smashing is quite fine seeing as its spell speed 1, and Bazoo decks just get wrecked by toolbox/pot of avarice decks so they don't need restricting either. Swap is just fine, my opponent can run 2 and get them as bad topdecks any time they want to.

Both cards you want to ban are horrible choices for the banlist, and Painful isn't coming back unless they reprint it as a non-broken card, since its the best card in the game.

[Hiro-Sakano]

Painful isn't coming back unless they reprint it as a non-broken card, since its the best card in the game.

What does that mean??? do you have any hopes on tuned down versions too? or maybe your mean errata?

There is an interesting move, if X card gets restricted to 1 all stupid players will try it on their decks¬¬ we still have a lot of restricted list samples on advanced deck discussion... and I hate that.

[yaming]

DMOC what im saying is ddwl is 1 of the most powerful monsters in the game, she deserves her turn on the list. And with the otk exodia, if ur opp. has the exodia head in his hand and painful with 2 dark factory--well that would be an exodia first turn god hand,very unlikely but I guess not impossible. if ur that scared of it when ur opp. does painful give him a piece of exodia, remember he has to get 2 monsters from dark factory an exodia decks dont play other normal monsters. an there's always that trap called disappear. The pot of avarice thing u said, I hope that was a joke, have u ever heared of magical merchant, if its built right a pot of avarice deck can be dangerous.
the cyber dragon was mainly if I brought metamorphosis back up to 2.