View Full Version : Will Kansas ever host a SJC tournament.
XxCyberDragonxX
12-05-2005, 04:54 PM
We have kansas city, Topeka, Emporia, Manhattan, Wichita.. Big cities.. well emporia being the smallest. but anyway. all of them have card shop locations. .. Why can't and SJC appear around them you would be suprised on how good the competition can be from kansas if only people would give us a shot.. What are the peoples thoughts on this?
kEviN21
12-05-2005, 04:57 PM
Well I'd like MN to have one but i dont think that'll happen anytime soon.......Theres a lot of competition all around the US and in time the tournies'll reach everyone or close to it...
XxCyberDragonxX
12-05-2005, 04:59 PM
Well what i dont get is why they always have to be in california, florida, new york, indianna, and other places that are farther out why not kansas one place almost everyone can reach...
Darth Payne
12-05-2005, 05:00 PM
I'd really like Los Angeles to have a few more.
Wait...-_-
XxCyberDragonxX
12-05-2005, 05:02 PM
A few more... So they have had at least one you should be happy. Kansas had had NONE... Along with many other people... I don't see why not either.. Just because kansas is like mainly farmers and not big suit lawyers who cares. Kansas is a state like any other just not one of the most dealiest like florida with all the hurricanes. and what not sure we have tornados so that should at least put us on the charts of a SJC or nationals.
Demonx
12-05-2005, 05:09 PM
It doesnt matter if you have great weather and all but how many players are in your over all state. Kansas has only 111 registered UDE Yugioh Players. About the size of an average Yu-Gi-Oh! regional in Seattle. <-The SJC location with the least attendence of 177 players.
XxCyberDragonxX
12-05-2005, 05:12 PM
im not on that list. why u may ask because there are no judges who will sign me up everytime i ask someone like oldbob they cant send me a sheet to sign up im sure if we could sign up there would be alot of people but why not kansas city because its in missouri and kansas that would be the only location.
Demonx
12-05-2005, 05:19 PM
=/ That means you dont perform in sanctioned UDE tournaments. With less tournament support, and even less amount of quality judges. It gives even more reasons not to have a SJC in Kansas. Why not just venture out into another state like many other players do.
Also shouldnt this be in the tournament forum?
LegendaryFlameLord
12-05-2005, 05:22 PM
there should be more tournies and stuff in Kansas and Oklahoma, the biggest Regional Tournament Host in Oklahoma moved to Texas last year so we'll only have like 1-2 regionals... and hell if an SJC will ever come here...
XxCyberDragonxX
12-05-2005, 05:22 PM
its not about having or hosting a tournament its a question.. and just because our tournaments have judges doesn't mean were not ude sanctioned it means there lazy. i dont happen to have money to waste thats why i dont venture out of state like everyone else WITH money can do if only i had money because you have to have money even to play a card game -_- im just tired of people saying there the best when in reality those who could be the best never get there shot.
LegendaryFlameLord
12-05-2005, 05:24 PM
yup yup yup go cyber!
Darth Payne
12-05-2005, 05:25 PM
It's a game. who cares if people think they're better.
XxCyberDragonxX
12-05-2005, 05:27 PM
i dont care if people think there better. I just hate when other people agree with those people like in the 7 vs 7 tournament with only the "Best" in the east and west.. when people call those people cheaters. like the paul person if hes a cheater then how can he be the best. it just peeves me that people give good names to bad players.
LegendaryFlameLord
12-05-2005, 05:27 PM
It's a game. who cares if people think they're better.
because I AM GONNA BE THE GREATEST EVER SO I CAN DIE HAPPY!!!
lol jk but it's all glory and honor man
britishbill1201
12-05-2005, 05:27 PM
hmm well never know where theyll be next ohhhh welll :(
XxCyberDragonxX
12-05-2005, 05:29 PM
yea, if anyone from ude reads this at least come up with a smaller tournament type for states like kansas so we can feel some pride... and that way it will help boost more members.. but the way its going now alot of good players in my area are thinking about quitting since UDE doesn't care about all of its consumers but the ones who spend the most money...
LegendaryFlameLord
12-05-2005, 05:31 PM
we should have a Tournament of Champions for every state (only 3 per state max), then hold a mini national tournament once every half year in my opinion.
Demonx
12-05-2005, 05:34 PM
Your question relies on the support of company hosting the Shonen Jump Tournament since Kansas probably doesn’t have a Premier event organizer.
From what your saying, your judges are lazy you say? If they were lazy they wouldn’t run a premier event, let alone a SJC tournament properly. The PTO would have to spend money to fly out judges from other states, flushing the profits from the entrance fee down the drain. No reason for the PTO to organize the event in the first place.
I understand that you want to play at a higher event rather than a local tournament. But proving your self to be good relies on your money support.
I just shelled out $250 for a plane ticket to the SJC in San Francisco. Even though I’m 13 I paid for it myself by making a profit out of Yu-Gi-Oh. You can afford to fly yourself out if you set your assets right.
XxCyberDragonxX
12-05-2005, 05:34 PM
i agree a tournament of champions per state would be awesome then that could decide who goes to nationals a max or 8 people from state meaning 2 tournament's of champions. within an 8 month span.. and still have a few regionals. and SJC's
~i said the judges at my card shop are lazy.. since we only have one~
as well i know it takes money but we do have premiere's and there hosted in kansas city... So therefore we should get a SJC's since we host those events... just no regionals or SJC's yet.. plus u problably duel people for cards then sell them on ebay. my parents wont let me sell on ebay and dueling for cards here is a difficult task due to some players dont hold there word and those who do tend to never let the duel end other than a draw. occasionally i will get a duel with someone who has good cards and they willbet stuff.
anyway any one else's opinion but thanks demon u prooved my point yugioh is full of money grubbing suit's
LegendaryFlameLord
12-05-2005, 05:37 PM
Your question relies on the support of company hosting the Shonen Jump Tournament since Kansas probably doesn’t have a Premier event organizer.
From what your saying, your judges are lazy you say? If they were lazy they wouldn’t run a premier event, let alone a SJC tournament properly. The PTO would have to spend money to fly out judges from other states, flushing the profits from the entrance fee down the drain. No reason for the PTO to organize the event in the first place.
I understand that you want to play at a higher event rather than a local tournament. But proving your self to be good relies on your money support.
I just shelled out $250 for a plane ticket to the SJC in San Francisco. Even though I’m 13 I paid for it myself by making a profit out of Yu-Gi-Oh. You can afford to fly yourself out if you set your assets right.
look not everyone can afford that, and really since UDE is stupid and mostly markets to little kids how do they expect the people they're trying to sell the products to to attend when they don't have jobs to afford to go anywhere!!!
.:EveningPlague:.
12-05-2005, 05:41 PM
You can't just ask for a SJC and *poof* there you have one, you have to have someone who can organize/host it and all that good mess.
Demonx
12-05-2005, 05:41 PM
I agree that UDE markets to little kids, but they aren’t stupid for planning out events at high-populated states with a large amount of players. So it's worth giving out a prize card would thousands of dollars to a crowd of 300+ players. Rather than a state that doesn’t even have a PTO with a registered amount of 111 players.
i said the judges at my card shop are lazy.. since we only have one~
as well i know it takes money but we do have premiere's and there hosted in kansas city... So therefore we should get a SJC's since we host those events... just no regionals or SJC's yet.. plus u problably duel people for cards then sell them on ebay. my parents wont let me sell on ebay and dueling for cards here is a difficult task due to some players dont hold there word and those who do tend to never let the duel end other than a draw. occasionally i will get a duel with someone who has good cards and they willbet stuff.
As I said, "From what your saying, your judges are lazy you say? If they were lazy they wouldn’t run a premier event, let alone a SJC tournament properly. The PTO would have to spend money to fly out judges from other states, flushing the profits from the entrance fee down the drain. No reason for the PTO to organize the event in the first place."
This game is all about making money, but the fun in the game is playing itself.
Also I don’t sell cards on eBay as of yet, since I don’t have a credit card being 13 years of age and all. I win tournaments and sell off my prizes, rather than opening packs up and pulling junk.
XxCyberDragonxX
12-05-2005, 05:46 PM
ive realized u cant ask and poof . you get your wish you have to fight boy cott and cause any thing that will make the game lose money before they actually pay attention to there consumers... You both have no room to talk im sure were u live you have regionals, SJC's and if u dont i bet u have them near you so of coarse you can defend them... Money isn't everything they advertise people having fun with this game and if there are unhappy consumers than that advertisment isn't 100% true. and plus im a big consumer to yugioh i just happen to live in a state with few people to host ... they run businesses and can host but for me to get them to host would cost me a fortune just to turn out no tournament because money didn't talk its just my thought that ude doesn't pay much attention to the players other than the $$'s in advertising the players bring.
Demonx
12-05-2005, 05:51 PM
Upperdeck is a business trying to make money. They probably try to satisfy the customers but they want to bring in the money since there a business overall. Would you want to do charity work all life long and not make a cent? Or rather living in a nice house with a nice car, ect.
Also yes I do live in a city with an average amount of regionals. I’ve placed in top 8 slots in the past four regionals in Seattle. As well as being ranked #1 in the state of Washington by the UDE system. But I do have the right to defend UDE since its pretty obvious what there doing; trying to make money.
XxCyberDragonxX
12-05-2005, 05:56 PM
i know what your saying but.. There are some things better than money because money is the cause of people being lonely.. Unless ur like uber rich.. If your like UDE they try to satisfy i know but why cant they have like at least one regional in each state because im sure they will make a profit from any state. some more than others.
LegendaryFlameLord
12-05-2005, 06:36 PM
lol personally i'd just like to see equal chances for the more mature players who actually spend most of their money on the game, like me. Right now almost all of the marketing is going toward little kids even though the game is designed for us. So really having more spread out regional tournaments in every state should do some good, come on atleast 1 tournament in every 18-30 counties of a state with a duelist registration count of over 300 or sumhin like that
FURIA328
12-05-2005, 08:00 PM
i know what your saying but.. There are some things better than money because money is the cause of people being lonely.. Unless ur like uber rich.. If your like UDE they try to satisfy i know but why cant they have like at least one regional in each state because im sure they will make a profit from any state. some more than others.
I wish that every state could experience a SJC but the reality is a PTO will only host one in a state they seem profitable. Kansas has 111 registered users according to ude.com. Now California has an astonishing 6888 registered users, at the last SJC there were well over 170 in the event. I know there will always be people that come from other states but the truth is it's not very likely that every single one of those registered users in Kansas will make it to the SJC.
LegendaryFlameLord
12-05-2005, 08:09 PM
u got a point a good one
XxCyberDragonxX
12-05-2005, 08:16 PM
good point but with kansas being the center of america, people would be able to fly in from around the US since they fly from washinton clear to florida why not to kansas much shorter and cheaper flight.yea i know not many people are registered because there are few events where we can get signed up
G-(_)nit
12-05-2005, 08:22 PM
Central United States tournament locations are given to Texas. Simple as that, they go for the areas which are well known and have the largest player markets. They messed with a smaller area(Seattle) and it failed horribly compared to other SJCs. UDE, being a company wants the profit gained by having 400+ at an event. Texas, Florida, California, and the Northeast(NY.NJ.Mass.) can guarantee this while places like Kansas would be flops. These other areas also are travel centers which makes the trips more interesting and attractive. Like you said its Kansas, that should explain it.
FURIA328
12-05-2005, 08:23 PM
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to argue with you guys and say that Kansas shouldn't have a SJC, for all we know there could be hidden talent in the State of Kansas. With the prize being a card that has the potential of being worth thousands of dollars many people may fly in but you never know many people may not.
I think PTOs just look at the statistics, if they see that a city does not have many registered users then they meay see it as risky. Although there may not be many events to register at, they may think that not many people play the game to begin with.
xlxlx_evil_xlxlx
12-05-2005, 09:35 PM
i'm from near kc also and if you would look we are getting a regional on feb 25 not a sjc but atleast its something
Old Bob
12-05-2005, 10:07 PM
im not on that list. why u may ask because there are no judges who will sign me up everytime i ask someone like oldbob they cant send me a sheet to sign up im sure if we could sign up there would be alot of people but why not kansas city because its in missouri and kansas that would be the only location.
Cyber dragon, who are you and when have you asked me to sign you up. i can do it as I have he paperwork to assign UDE numbers, but no one has asked me in a very long time.
Denver istrying to get an SJC butthe difficulty is with insuring there is a LV3 head judge (we don't have one in Colorado) and having an event center large enouhg that is affordable enough to rent for 3 days (1day set up and2 days of tourney). Putting that money upfront to rent uch a place is hard to do. We have a large number of players here and within a 2 hour drive have a population of over 3 million. I hope we get one butI'm not holding my breath.
Cyber, if you want to get signed up with a UDE number PM me.
Old bob
Old Bob
12-07-2005, 07:29 PM
Cyber, just found out today that Denver will be hosting a sJC in June 06. Come on over. Its not that far for a summer road trip
Old bob
XxCyberDragonxX
12-07-2005, 09:45 PM
Dude awesome, i may be showing up in colorado anyway just for the theme park . Could u like pm me the date and time when you find out man id really appreciate it.
Old Bob
12-08-2005, 08:40 AM
The Colorado SJC will be June 24, 25 with registration on the 23rd. Exact location has not been set yet
Old Bob
DUELING DAD
12-08-2005, 08:48 AM
Sounds good I may have to take a road trip this summer with my boy's. Are ya'll going to need any more Judges, if so lmk I have judged a jump and a few regionals. I have to put in for my vac, and this sounds good.
D.D.
Daedalus
12-08-2005, 08:52 AM
the only ways that kansas, or any other state can get shonen jump is if you have a really good tournament organizer (dont know the level off my head) and a seriously huge metagame with about 200+ possibly coming. it should also be a large city where people can play and a well known one as well. for kansas, i do not believe any city is well known enough to have one, but good luck organizing it!
Old Bob
12-08-2005, 09:03 AM
DD, I have a feeling that we will need all the help judging that we can get. if you PM me, I'll give you the e-mail for the Head judge for the event. The PTO lets her select the judging staff.
Old Bob
Scrubby
12-08-2005, 09:16 AM
W00t, snow day yesterday and my mom dosnt want me to go today
Anyways like Bob said yes please email him so u can get the email for the head judge. The higher the judge level the better
XxCyberDragonxX
12-08-2005, 12:26 PM
yea kansas is alittle far fetched i see that now with all this info shown forworth... Anyway ill make it to any regional or SJC thats near me and that counts bordering states.
DrendDragonspawn
04-13-2008, 09:01 PM
Do you know why Kansas only has 111 registered players? Because UDE REFUSES to host events in Kansas. It is not due to a lack of judging staff, support, or number of players. Local hobby shops in some of the larger cities have proven that the only reason Kansas doesn't have MORE local sanctioned tournaments is because UDE administration doesn't want them in this state. They REFUSE to allow my local store to even host HOBBY LEAGUE tournaments, even though we have fulfilled all requirements and have seven or eight judges/Organizers/Player Managers in the area. It is a matter if IMAGE. UDE does not want to associate with the state of Kansas. They are just being rude in this matter. I compete competitively in local tournaments, but am unable to go to larger tournaments, along with at least eighty other unregistered duelists I know alone, because UDE won't put them closer. There is actually a very large YUGIOH community in Kansas. I know for a fact that we compete in numbers with "larger communities" like Indianapolis and Miami, where they hold large tournaments every other freaking week. Kansas City and Wichita are HUGE cities. Large populations, large amounts of cash, lots of space, and for God's sake, Kansans are more than willing to travel a little to get to the tournaments. It isn't like I am asking for one in Topeka. That would be illogical. But one in KC or Wichita would be a good idea.
Frog_Master
04-13-2008, 10:12 PM
Do you know why Kansas only has 111 registered players? Because UDE REFUSES to host events in Kansas. It is not due to a lack of judging staff, support, or number of players. Local hobby shops in some of the larger cities have proven that the only reason Kansas doesn't have MORE local sanctioned tournaments is because UDE administration doesn't want them in this state. They REFUSE to allow my local store to even host HOBBY LEAGUE tournaments, even though we have fulfilled all requirements and have seven or eight judges/Organizers/Player Managers in the area. It is a matter if IMAGE. UDE does not want to associate with the state of Kansas. They are just being rude in this matter. I compete competitively in local tournaments, but am unable to go to larger tournaments, along with at least eighty other unregistered duelists I know alone, because UDE won't put them closer. There is actually a very large YUGIOH community in Kansas. I know for a fact that we compete in numbers with "larger communities" like Indianapolis and Miami, where they hold large tournaments every other freaking week. Kansas City and Wichita are HUGE cities. Large populations, large amounts of cash, lots of space, and for God's sake, Kansans are more than willing to travel a little to get to the tournaments. It isn't like I am asking for one in Topeka. That would be illogical. But one in KC or Wichita would be a good idea.
Wow...you were on the ball on this one...
IMO though, I wouldn't mind one in KC. It would be better for the Iowa people to get to, not to mention those in KS ans MO...
CapitalG
04-13-2008, 10:13 PM
SJC Kansas City MO might be possible , thats as close to Kansas as you'll get
dowster
04-13-2008, 10:16 PM
i hope you realize you brought back a thread from 2 year ago? :mad:
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