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Paladinseer007
11-27-2005, 11:43 AM
First of all, I've heard that some people want CED off the ban list coming it's change and others want BLS off the list too. And the purpose for this is to ask the question of which is more destructive CED or BLS? Now I know that most people say that there both broken and deserved to be on the list together, but I would have to say that my bottom line is that BLS is less of a threat than CED, because people depended on that card to win more than BLS. And if you say that they will stay banned forever, you don't know that, and I don't know it either. And my guess since there's new cards coming, they prove to be a pontential being more of a problem than the envoys, we'll need them back when that time comes.My final thought is this, which do you want more something less of a threat such as BLS, or something more of a threat like CED which my guess is that it wouldn't last too long off the ban list. :D

mech-hound
11-27-2005, 06:35 PM
BLS is more broken.

draculaskid
11-27-2005, 06:39 PM
I would say CED

vampirelord123
11-27-2005, 06:40 PM
bls is way better, ced is amazing but if u dont kill him when u blowup, ur both topdecking and ur opponent draws first

topspin1617
11-27-2005, 06:40 PM
CED has more game ending capability. If it isn't able to win the game immediately, then BLS is better as it survives its own effect. Though you could always chain Interdimensional Matter Transporter to CED...

CHaOsYaTa
11-27-2005, 08:49 PM
ced is a million times better.

Shadow Lord
11-27-2005, 10:03 PM
My favorite monster, CED is more destructive and more broken.

Retain
11-27-2005, 10:09 PM
Obviously CED in terms of "Destructive" The whole field + hand = gone.

All reduce to who draws the best card first! Or performing the infamous sangan/witch + yata combo

Paladinseer007
11-27-2005, 11:41 PM
BLS is more broken.

I disagree CED is ten times as broken than BLS. :D

great_one
11-28-2005, 05:42 AM
CED is better. it's more destructive. along with my dear yata, my favorite card ever.

Blankauctions
11-28-2005, 07:17 AM
Why would BLS be better and not get banned first?

that's right... CED is better

but both deserve the banning.

D.D. Pop-up Add
11-28-2005, 10:29 AM
Neither. They're both banned. :D

Code89
11-28-2005, 10:42 AM
Bls is more of a game winner i think.....ced just clears the field......but bls has a awsome effect......ced is just meh in my opinion(i cannot spell_)

Paladinseer007
11-28-2005, 12:16 PM
Why would BLS be better and not get banned first?

that's right... CED is better

but both deserve the banning.

First of all, CED is way more destructive than BLS, because for one it's effect and the fact most people do rely on that card to win tournements and duels.Second of all, BLS isn't a destructive no more than CED, because if you compare the two you'll see that CED is ten times the threat than BLS. :D

Blankauctions
11-28-2005, 12:50 PM
First of all, CED is way more destructive than BLS, because for one it's effect and the fact most people do rely on that card to win tournements and duels.Second of all, BLS isn't a destructive no more than CED, because if you compare the two you'll see that CED is ten times the threat than BLS. :D

You must not have understand what i wrote.

"Why would BLS be better and not get banned first?" means CED was banned first because it was so much better.

Paladinseer007
11-28-2005, 01:05 PM
You must not have understand what i wrote.

"Why would BLS be better and not get banned first?" means CED was banned first because it was so much better.

That's not what I was saying, I wasn't saying it was better I'm saying compared to CED, BLS is less of a threat.That's what I was trying to say,And for the most part CED was banned because it was a destructive card. And between CED and BLS, BLS is less destructive than CED, that's my point i've been saying it from the begining of this thread. :)

Blankauctions
11-28-2005, 01:08 PM
That's not what I was saying, I wasn't saying it was better I'm saying compared to CED, BLS is less of a threat.That's what I was trying to say,And for the most part CED was banned because it was a destructive card. And between CED and BLS, BLS is less destructive than CED, that's my point i've been saying it from the begining of this thread. :)

Yes CED was banned and then BLS was banned...

When CED was banned (as the most powerful card in Yugioh at the time), BLS took it's Place and every one saw it as the biggest threat.

CED is like a father, while BLS is a son. :p

Paladinseer007
11-28-2005, 11:25 PM
Yes CED was banned and then BLS was banned...

When CED was banned (as the most powerful card in Yugioh at the time), BLS took it's Place and every one saw it as the biggest threat.

CED is like a father, while BLS is a son. :p

Some of that I sort of understand, but the reasoning of my point is that I'm basing this off of these two cards and their effects. And second of all, how is BLS considered to be a threat, he has hyabusa knight's attack twice effect, and he can remove a monster from the field and not attack in turn that removal was activated. And CED'S on the other hand, by paying 1,000 lifepoints he can destroy cards on both sides of the field including himself, times the number of cards times 300points of damage to your opponent's lifepoints. Bigger threat, that's a joke, this an exact opposite to what I said.More importantly, BLS wouldn't take the place of being the bigger threat, I believe CED has that title already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blankauctions
11-29-2005, 09:50 AM
Some of that I sort of understand, but the reasoning of my point is that I'm basing this off of these two cards and their effects. And second of all, how is BLS considered to be a threat, he has hyabusa knight's attack twice effect, and he can remove a monster from the field and not attack in turn that removal was activated. And CED'S on the other hand, by paying 1,000 lifepoints he can destroy cards on both sides of the field including himself, times the number of cards times 300points of damage to your opponent's lifepoints. Bigger threat, that's a joke, this an exact opposite to what I said.More importantly, BLS wouldn't take the place of being the bigger threat, I believe CED has that title already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What i said was BLS took CED's place when CED was banned... and it fit the position pretty well.

While BLS wasn't as powerful as CED, it was the most powerful unbanned monster. The only type of deck to make it to Nationals were Chaos Decks... So it must mean something if BLS took decks to Nationals, I.E. it was definitely a replacement.


I never once said BLS was better than CED, in traditional CED would still be king.

black_luster
11-30-2005, 06:19 PM
BLS is for control players really, the more destructive of the two is CED when his effectt gos off 90% of the time its gg, not bad for a free summon hey

ps a few people on this thread will have only started the game when CED was already banned, they will never have witnessed CED on a large scale so they are going to say BLS

Xier6
11-30-2005, 06:45 PM
BLS dominates Aggro. With more attack points than any commonly played card and the ability to gain +1 advantage every turn is just too much for agrro.

CED dominates Control. It can make both players equal in card advantage and punish you for every card you had.

mech-hound
11-30-2005, 06:49 PM
CEd is better when your losing

BLS when your winning

If you win more than you lose then play BLS.

Yami King Jake
11-30-2005, 06:49 PM
Mike Jones!

Code89
11-30-2005, 08:10 PM
CEd is better when your losing

BLS when your winning

If you win more than you lose then play BLS.


Like i dunno if ced is a card that u would like to have when u are losing cause then you loose everything and have a open feild with nothing protecting you......bls is the better one...

Paladinseer007
12-01-2005, 01:32 PM
Like i dunno if ced is a card that u would like to have when u are losing cause then you loose everything and have a open feild with nothing protecting you......bls is the better one...

better one, do you mean less destructive or more destructive? :)

Blankauctions
12-01-2005, 01:55 PM
better one, do you mean less destructive or more destructive? :)


I think he means that CED is more destructive, it has a better effect... but it also has a flaw, it leaves you defenseless and if you have few lifepoints than it's even worse.

BLS's has a great effect and it doesn't have such a CON side to it, but it also is missing the Destructive effect CED has.

ss4giel
12-01-2005, 02:02 PM
CED if you're down in advantage by more than 2. BLS if you're in control.

Black Paladin
12-01-2005, 07:56 PM
CEd for it's one hut kill ability. or because it got banned first so you know it's better

Paladinseer007
12-01-2005, 10:15 PM
I think he means that CED is more destructive, it has a better effect... but it also has a flaw, it leaves you defenseless and if you have few lifepoints than it's even worse.

BLS's has a great effect and it doesn't have such a CON side to it, but it also is missing the Destructive effect CED has.

Thank you, because of what you said is what I've been trying to say in my whole point that BLS is less of a threat than CED.Thank you for this, you finally understand what I've been trying to say the whole time, THANK YOU! :) :D

dragon#1
12-04-2005, 11:29 AM
IMO bls is the bigger threat. the way I see it is with bls no matter when you get him out his effect and statis will give you a strong field advantage. with ced you probably wont use his effect unless it will end the game so if it come in to play to soon its only a 3000 atk monster. a nice beatstick but not much more then that.

SoV_
12-04-2005, 11:44 AM
I wish they would let both back in, I don't understand why they ban cards anyway....Just because they're good dosen't mean they should be banned.

Paladinseer007
12-04-2005, 10:16 PM
I wish they would let both back in, I don't understand why they ban cards anyway....Just because they're good dosen't mean they should be banned.

Hmm... That is some interesting reasoning , hmmm.....I love it!!! :)

Blankauctions
12-04-2005, 10:19 PM
Hmm... That is some interesting reasoning , hmmm.....I love it!!! :)


And we all know that - that would just be crazy... You should know better, that -that would never happen.

I could see BLS being back maybe, if they banned DDWL, DDW, DDA and Sorceror ^_^

blazkien2222
12-05-2005, 11:37 AM
CED because of the fact that if you have no field and no cards in your hand except CED and your opponent has what 5 cards in his hand and 10 cards on the field and you activate CED's effect than everything is DESTROYED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paladinseer007
12-05-2005, 12:38 PM
And we all know that - that would just be crazy... You should know better, that -that would never happen.

I could see BLS being back maybe, if they banned DDWL, DDW, DDA and Sorceror ^_^

Most of what you said I got, but one part let me a bit confused. The last part about Sorceror, you mean Chaos sorceror right? :)

Kameiko
12-05-2005, 01:33 PM
CED Dominates Control

BLS Dominates Aggro

Blankauctions
12-05-2005, 06:36 PM
Most of what you said I got, but one part let me a bit confused. The last part about Sorceror, you mean Chaos sorceror right? :)


yes, that's what i meant... technically it could work, if you give up a lot for BLS-E. But i doubt anyone would do that.

Konoichi
12-05-2005, 10:03 PM
Luster cannot even offer competition to Dragon.

Paladinseer007
12-05-2005, 10:09 PM
Luster cannot even offer competition to Dragon.

First of all the dragon is the bigger threat and luster is the lesser threat.And by some way of luck if CED does come off the list it wouldn't last a day off of it.And second of all, I wasn't talking about means of effects. :p

Paladinseer007
12-05-2005, 10:15 PM
yes, that's what i meant... technically it could work, if you give up a lot for BLS-E. But i doubt anyone would do that.

Thank you for the help, I believe a few people besides myself would really want BLS off the ban list. And like I said before I can't speak for everyone about this information that you gave me.

Konoichi
12-05-2005, 10:24 PM
First of all the dragon is the bigger threat and luster is the lesser threat.And by some way of luck if CED does come off the list it wouldn't last a day off of it.And second of all, I wasn't talking about means of effects. :p


That's... what I said...? =/

Paladinseer007
12-05-2005, 10:41 PM
That's... what I said...? =/

Okay, well first of all should have been a little more specific.And more importantly BLS can offer competition to CED with it's removal effect, I know that once used you can't attack with him, but there is one way around it and it's also a small price to pay.

Kopaka of Ice
12-06-2005, 02:03 PM
Okay, well first of all should have been a little more specific.And more importantly BLS can offer competition to CED with it's removal effect, I know that once used you can't attack with him, but there is one way around it and it's also a small price to pay.
Most people who play CED just blow him up within 10 seconds after playing him... Not much chance behind BLS putting up a fight with CED unless the user of CED wants a "fair" fight. Even then, who is to say BLS' user wants one with that nasty removal effect. It's either CED nukes BLS or BLS removes CED, really.

Paladinseer007
12-06-2005, 10:34 PM
Most people who play CED just blow him up within 10 seconds after playing him... Not much chance behind BLS putting up a fight with CED unless the user of CED wants a "fair" fight. Even then, who is to say BLS' user wants one with that nasty removal effect. It's either CED nukes BLS or BLS removes CED, really.

That's sort of my point that even though CED holds a little more power, BLS can prove to be a challenge.Which I'll say it again BLS is less of a threat than CED. :p

gohson
12-07-2005, 05:02 PM
ced, thats why it was banned first, especially its otk with sangan and yata

DMOC2826
12-07-2005, 05:05 PM
CED is more destruction b/c it kills everything basically. It destroys monsters,spells,traps, hands, and does burn.

TheMysticOne-LV4
12-07-2005, 07:00 PM
CED is more broken
the explosion effect can be +15 is used at the biggest disadvantage
you topdecking to their 6 in hand 5 s/t and 5 mon
CED wins

exiled priest
12-07-2005, 07:02 PM
i agree ced is the most destructive it bombs everything and causes life point damage thats much more than bls could offer in many ways.

kEviN21
12-07-2005, 07:19 PM
Chaos Sorcerer!

Jk hehe...but really i think CED is...... he was banned first plus it has the potential of winning the duel in many different combos.....

Paladinseer007
12-07-2005, 10:10 PM
Chaos Sorcerer!

Jk hehe...but really i think CED is...... he was banned first plus it has the potential of winning the duel in many different combos.....

Do you care to be a little specific with everybody else on the different combos besides the sangan & yata combo that everyone knows so well. :)