cyber dragon...

[Airknight]

why do you (people who think it will be restricted) think it will be restrict?

P.S. people who think it will be not restricted step aside and dont post, i wanna see what they say first.

EIDT: let's see if this review will change people's opinion on this card:
http://www.dmcomet.net/cotw/185.htm

[dkates]

The only reason it would be considered for restriction is that it throws off the "power curve" for monsters, by providing 2100 ATK without really requiring a Tribute or much of a drawback (the Special Summon condition could be considered a drawback, but it's an extremely weak one). That it does so as a Special Summon certainly aids its power -- while you can't swarm Cyber Dragons through their own ability, you can make a mini-swarm consisting of Cyber Dragon and another monster of your choice.

[PC1X1]

But also leads us into the weakness of maruading captain, you lose hand advantage, can be killed by sak, etc, (1/1). You can only summon him if your oponent has no monsters, thats a big draw back, so if he has nothing on the field, you can't cyber dragon him, then summon. Is it a little broken, yes it is, just like many other CC cards, however with proper countermeasures, dragon isnt much, I do say though I think they should be semi restricted maybe, but doesn't matter to me, because anyone running 3's without a proper deck, is self beating themselves.

[AnubisEX13]

But also leads us into the weakness of maruading captain, you lose hand advantage, can be killed by sak, etc, (1/1). You can only summon him if your oponent has no monsters, thats a big draw back, so if he has nothing on the field, you can't cyber dragon him, then summon. Is it a little broken, yes it is, just like many other CC cards, however with proper countermeasures, dragon isnt much, I do say though I think they should be semi restricted maybe, but doesn't matter to me, because anyone running 3's without a proper deck, is self beating themselves.

correction Cybers effect states if YOU have no monsters while your opponent controls at least one other monster you may Sp. summon him to the feild not the other way around i should know i started using him as soon as i got him at the sneak preview.

[RefLeX]

they wont restrict it bcuz its needed to make cyber twin and cyber end :;/

[`Morgan`]

they wont restrict it bcuz its needed to make cyber twin and cyber end :;/ Light Hex=Twin, Cyber Stein=CEndD. GG.

More reasons onto why Cyber could get limited.

It's on the abuse lane just like our friends D.D. Warrior Lady, Mystical Space Typhoon, not to mention you could special summon then tribute for mobius ect.

[lordsephiroth07]

it wont be restricted. Look at the new cards in SoI, such as proto-type cyber dragon, and you need to have many "cyber dragons" to make Laser and Barrier Dragon. Its not going to go anywhere for a while.

[StealthoftheWest]

It's not going to be restricted enough simply because it isn't good enough to be restricted.

[Lipid Inpachi]

they wont restrict it bcuz its needed to make cyber twin and cyber end :;/

With that logic, Witch Of The Black Forest shouldn't be banned because it's needed to make Sanwitch.

[Lord of the Bling]

Which is my thread altogether, and the reason I made it. =/

I don't think it will be restricted, personally. It's bad in 3's, except for very few decks.

[AnakinSkywalker]

It's going to be restricted for the same reason DDA is going to be restricted, because everyone abuses the power of these cards by running them in duos or trios. I just hope Kevin doesn't ban both, banning too many cards could reduce the number of new players and water down the meta a lot. I like the meta the way it is right now, creative and fun. :D

[Lord of the Bling]

Almost no-one runs Cyber Dragon in threes.

[wrathchild]

I dont think cyber dragon should be retricted cuz its not broken, its over rated. cyber dragon is just a stronger marauding captain with its own pros and cons, thats all it is.

[mech-hound]

Since there releasing proto it wouldn't make the fusions unplayable anyway.

THey'll probally limit this and leave the much more deserving DDA unharmed.

[King of Dragon]

If Konami is wanting more themes Cyber Dragon will be untouched. It has its own deck and though its splashable it is just an easy summoned monster and nothing more. With 1-3 DDA, 1-3 DDW, DDWL, Exiled, 1-3 BTH, 1-3 SA, 1-3 Smashing Ground, 1-3 Widespread Ruin, Dark Hole and, Torrential. You'll think Cyber Dragon would be just another high attack monster.

[Pemolis]

Cyber Dragon is a possibility. I won't give a definite yes or no. As a 5 star monster, its pretty lousy in itself Except for its effect (which makes it extremely potent).


It can run over alot of cards, and is being splashed in more decks than it really should be. What I don't like is that they gave it an easy special summon requirement, and made it over the basic 1900 attack monster (beats the 2000 attackers too who have extreme restrictions (outside of gorilla)).

[Clear1]

Why Cyber Dragon needs to be restricted:

Pros:

- abusive, Splash Cyber Dragon, Marauding Captain and Lily onto field by Second turn. GG?.
- 90% of time, instant field Advantage.

Cons:
- doesn't mix too good with goats, which is hardy an issue.
- bad top deck againest Horus Lv8, but who plays that?
- Bazoo owns it.


Why D.D. Assailant needs to be restricted:

Pros:
- Turns around unfavourable situations like Horus Lv8.
- fetchable using Reinforcements.

Cons:
- Earth Type.
- D.D. Survivor owns it. (in defense mode)
- Strike Ninja owns it. (in defense mode)
- Kinetic Soldiers owns it. (in attack mode)
- Drillroid/Mystic Lv2 owns it. (in defense mode)

Seriously, whoever says D.D. Assailant needs to be restricted needs to get their head examined. If they actually THINK outside of their cookie cutter crap, they can see how many weakness does D.D. Assailant actually have.

Cyber Dragon will be restricted at least to 2 since Proto is coming out in SoI, so no excuse of cannot bring out Cyber Twin and End. It is so splashable in virtually any deck. Decent attack, Tribute bait to beat other crap named Dark World, the advantages are endless.

[ajp123]

It could possibly get restricted, as otherwise we'd be seeing decks such as:

3x Cyber
3x Proto Cyber
3x Light-Hex
3x Shining Angel, etc.

pop up. I dunno whether they'd be viable, but it might get restricted.

~AJP.

[dcbo89]

personally i dont think it will be restricted, yeah sure we get essentially 6 cyber dragons in a deck but 3 have no effect and have to be on field and have low attack points

cyber dragon is best 1st hand when you go 2nd, then it is good if you start top decking later on in the duel, it that broken? no, if your getting screwed over by a don you need it, its not broken imo just leave it and restrict dda

[SuperJay]

Cyber Dragon itself isn't that much of a problem.
If you're worried about Cyber Dragons, side deck 2 Ojama Trios and an extra sakuretsu armor.
If your meta is heavily saturated with CC decks with him, then maindeck 2 ojama trios and 3 sakuretsu armors, you opponant will curse when they can't SS cyber dragons or run into a trap.

The problem is what people summon WITH Cyber Dragon.
90% of the time, players will summon a DDA with Cyber Dragon.
That is the problem.

If you get anything big out to counter their cyber dragon, they will simply suicide a DDA into it to RFG it and clear the way for Cyber Dragon to smack you around until they get a mobius/jinzo/dark ruler ha des/etc to summon from Cyber.

Cyber Dragons are risky to play in 3s, at times, even in 2s.
But DDA is the culprit here, he's not really any different then DDwL or DDW.

-SuperJay

[King of Dragon]

Proto Cyber Dragons will really make it easier to summon the other Cyber Dragon cards, including the fusions. No CC deck will put in those Proto Cyber Dragons into their decks and none of them will ever use Power Bond.

Other than that no sweat. I hope those Proto cards aren't hard to get though. So I can put my Cyber Dragons into more of their own deck besides a machine deck.

[wikidklown_247]

They will Limit or Restrict both D.D's and Cyber's because if they don't we'll have to listen for another 6 months, to people cry about Balanced monsters, that by the often get owned shortly after they are played.

Don't do it Kevin! Don't give into the cry-babys again!!

[CCG FrEaK 1040]

AH they might get pushed to 1 or 2 but they really shouldn't. You guys see the meta lately. people are playin new decks and people only play 1 or 2 dda cyber. then there is the occasional put in 3 of one but really they are not broken in any way. they are good maybe down to 2 but again its not necessary

[Romancer]

They will Limit or Restrict both D.D's and Cyber's because if they don't we'll have to listen for another 6 months, to people cry about Balanced monsters, that by the often get owned shortly after they are played.

Don't do it Kevin! Don't give into the cry-babys again!!
The cry-babies are the masses. You know what must be done!

Seriously, Cyber Dragons and D.D. Assailants > all other unrestricted monsters in the game. If that's not grounds for limiting or semi-limiting, then I don't understand the purpose of the ban list.

PS: wikidklown_247, "Location: In wonder land hunting Alice! shhh be very very quiet!" That's so not cool. Alice and drug addicted insane creator are both > than you.

[screwedtool]

D.D. Assailants and Cyber Dragons, what's the big deal. There are easy ways to get out of losing to them. Torrential Tribute, Sakuretsu Armor, SORL, Smashing Ground, Exiled Force, etc., can get you out of those locks. They don't deserve limiting or semi limiting. I guess we'd have to limit Feind Megacyber too because it's a "unbalanced monster".

[Nanya]

I just want Cyber Dragons limited so that Limiter Removal can come back to either 2 or 3.

That is all.

[Clear1]

They will Limit or Restrict both D.D's and Cyber's because if they don't we'll have to listen for another 6 months, to people cry about Balanced monsters, that by the often get owned shortly after they are played.

Don't do it Kevin! Don't give into the cry-babys again!!

I can't believe people still believe D.D. Assailant is unbalanced. Would it kill you to get and use a $5 dollar Survivor? How hard is it to find MS Lv2 in a structure deck? Compare to the number of assailants that are actually out there. (Mind you, I got my 3rd one today.) But wise players can get 3 if they want to.

Even if they did restrict assailant, they'll be still around $20 bucks a piece. It is not going to be easier to get and they will NEVER reprint this. (With the exception of Zoa, there isn't any reprints of any promos that is already in a set.)

[Paladinseer007]

With that logic, Witch Of The Black Forest shouldn't be banned because it's needed to make Sanwitch.

That is true, and it still really annoy's me that they did that. :mad:

[wikidklown_247]

The cry-babies are the masses. You know what must be done!

Seriously, Cyber Dragons and D.D. Assailants > all other unrestricted monsters in the game. If that's not grounds for limiting or semi-limiting, then I don't understand the purpose of the ban list.

PS: wikidklown_247, "Location: In wonder land hunting Alice! shhh be very very quiet!" That's so not cool. Alice and drug addicted insane creator are both > than you.

Umm....whut

D.D Survivor .. ****1800/????/Worrior...Owns all DD's, and a whole lot more.
Feind MegaCyber, Lei Lei, Goblin Attack Force, Goblin Elite Force, Zombyra The Dark <OWN> Cyber Dragon.

Just because nobody seems to pay attention, and prepare doesn't make things gOdLy.

Don't speak if you have nothing intelligent to say.

[wingzero001]

hey the most cyber dragons i see is 2 at tops they only run 3if they wanna bring out the end the only thing people dont like about cyber is its power to be ss if u have no monsters other then that theres nothing wrong no 1 hardly sacks for cyber mobius yeah or jinzo for the people who still use it there a fiend maga cyber but 100less atk and u can bring it out with no monsters where mega u have to have 2 or more i cant say they would ban or bring him to 1 if they did do some thing i think they would just bring it down to 2 but hey this is just my point of view :D

[SaintDragon7777]

cyber dragon needs to stay. It has its own deck type. This deck type needs to be preserved. Even with 3 prote cyber dragons its very difficult to call out cyber laser dragon and the 2 fusions since they need to be summoned first. And calling out these moster is very costly to resources.

DD Assailant need to go down to 1 per deck. This card harms more decks then cyber dragons can ever do. People stop trying to protect DD assailant. It doesnt' have a deck type its just a CC cards. This guy takes down any high attack monster that oppoenents work very hard to summon out.

I'm not hating on DD cards cause some of you seems to think DD warrior is as godly as DD Assailant. DD warrior in my opion is very balanced cause its 1200 and has no chance of gaining advantage. Neodoria in some cases are much better then DD warrior.

[topspin1617]

Seriously, Cyber Dragons and D.D. Assailants > all other unrestricted monsters in the game. If that's not grounds for limiting or semi-limiting, then I don't understand the purpose of the ban list.

Of course, some other unrestricted monster would then become the best, then another, then another... until all monsters are restricted.

[DarkMaigican25]

Cyber Dragon will be restricted due to its annoying but powerful effect. Too broken in this advanced format and the ruling that his effect doesn't start a chain, no bottomless or torrential com on get serious.

DDA is limited because she is being abused left to right. Who doesn't have 3 in the deck.

[King of Dragon]

Cyber Dragon in a CC is just annoying, it is just used to pair up with Don or Reaper. Wow cripple Cyber Dragon decks then CC decks can easily just toss in 1 to 3 other simple replacements. Doubt Konami will kill off that decktype because of that.

[Shizzle]

It willm to much swarmage and tribute fodder.

[Paladinseer007]

Cyber Dragon will be restricted due to its annoying but powerful effect. Too broken in this advanced format and the ruling that his effect doesn't start a chain, no bottomless or torrential com on get serious.

DDA is limited because she is being abused left to right. Who doesn't have 3 in the deck.

I agree with that, That card's effect makes it really powerful just slap it on the field and you have major field advantage. :mad:

[dkates]

Cyber Dragon will be restricted due to its annoying but powerful effect. Too broken in this advanced format and the ruling that his effect doesn't start a chain, no bottomless or torrential com on get serious.

DDA is limited because she is being abused left to right. Who doesn't have 3 in the deck.

Cyber Dragon's effect may not start a chain, but you can still respond to its Special Summon (with such cards as Bottomless and Torrential). That ruling just means you can't chain to the effect. Even so, I could see Cyber Dragon getting Limited, even though whether it deserves it is pretty arguable in my book.

DDA, on the other hand, seems more limit-worthy in my opinion. It's a minimum 1-for-1, often more because of its stats. I've said before, I don't think it's banworthy, but it is a little too splashable for its own good.

[tacos]

It wont it would only happen if the ban cyber end cuz cyber is needed to fusion summon it

[Zalde]

I see a HIGH probability of something Happening to Cyber Dragon. Restricted at LEAST. I mean, we're getting Proto for the deck type, and the real one is too powerful.

[King of Dragon]

I really don't see Konami hacking a theme off for that reason alone. Proto Cyber Dragon is no where close to even helping the theme out by itself. Its purpose is only for the Fusions and the Barrier/Laser Dragons. Cyber Dragon decks will then become Proto OTK because that's all it can do at that point. Then die because Cyberstien is a lot better and faster.

Its just one of those thorns in the side that so annoying you want it gone then once it is then the complaints will show up that it wasn't worth restricting. Cyber isn't really the problem its the company that follows it.

[Romancer]

Umm....whut

D.D Survivor .. ****1800/????/Worrior...Owns all DD's, and a whole lot more.
Feind MegaCyber, Lei Lei, Goblin Attack Force, Goblin Elite Force, Zombyra The Dark <OWN> Cyber Dragon.

Just because nobody seems to pay attention, and prepare doesn't make things gOdLy.

Don't speak if you have nothing intelligent to say.
Fiend Megacyber = Dead weight in hand 99% of the time. I should know, since I've run it many times.
Lei Lei and GAF have that crippling side effect of being unable to attack for a turn, and they can't defend themselves from any monster of 1 attack or more for 2 turns.
Zombyra and D.D. Suvivor... LOL!!! That's a good one. Zombyra OWN anything... :p

PS: I never spoke. I typed. But thanks for brightining my day. :rolleyes:

[Airknight]

let's see if this review will change people's opinion on this card:
http://www.dmcomet.net/cotw/185.htm

i hope it's not against the rule~~

[King of Dragon]

let's see if this review will change people's opinion on this card:
http://www.dmcomet.net/cotw/185.htm

i hope it's not against the rule~~

I think that review says it all right there.

[Airknight]

I think that review says it all right there.
read the last bit~

So, stop arguing how this card needs to be restrict...restricting BEATSTICK? WTF?

[King of Dragon]

That's the part I was talking about the most.

[Airknight]

oh~~ oh well, i basically just wanna people to read it and see if they still think restricting a beastick is necessary~

[Dark_Ruler_Shen]

cyber dragon wont get restricted, dda wont get restricted, because they arent as broken as what ppl may think. cyber dragon's arent godly in this format when u run them in 3's because they must have a monster under control inorder for u 2 summon, sometimes u'll have a cyber d in ur hand without ur opponent having a monster on his/her side of the field while topdecking. dda isnt that great, i dont play ne, n i've done fine...up here in canada the meta is far tougher, n some of the better players side deck the dda's n they're focusing on 2 cyber dragons with tomato control...by means of using the newdoria as removal...so no the cyber dragon wont get restricted. i havent seen ne1 with a good arguement as 2 y they shuld restrict it... :confused:

[chaosmessenger]

correction Cybers effect states if YOU have no monsters while your opponent controls at least one other monster you may Sp. summon him to the feild not the other way around i should know i started using him as soon as i got him at the sneak preview.


me too but i traded my cyber dragon :mad: