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Dark-Link
10-01-2005, 08:05 PM
Well, 2 thing's to start off with,: 1) i'm sorry for the late article, I know it shoulda been yesterday, but a arguement with my parent's kept me off .... and 2) I dunno why I had to pick such a hard type to strategize for... but i'm gonna try my best.

*take's a big breath* Well, here goes! Plants have a certain characteristic like almost every other types do, but if you were wondering what it is, there are several opinions from multiple people of what it could be, but my opinion is that it is regeneration (not graveyard manipulation... that's zombies jobs ;) ). What I mean by Regeneration is... well... i'll give a couple examples: Mystic Tomato, Lord Poison, Lekunga, Vampire Orchis/Des Dendle. Basically, the first two, Bring out a new monster when it's destroyed by battle, the second two generate token's.

Now I have thought up of a few, but it's hard though... (since there is a LITTLE variety to choose from) and that's to do a beatdownish field control type. Basically, using Jerry Beans man, and the like with a few Atk booster's such as Blast With Chain, Axe of Despair, United We Stand and such... Now I know equips aren't the BEST things in the game to use, but unfortunately, they are needed.. and I found by playtesting, in this new environment, equips aren't necessarily that bad either.

Another strat is to use maybe a Gaia Power or 2. Reason? Vampire Orchis, Jerry Beans Man and Homonculous the Alchemic being(change its attribute to Earth) and that way you'll have a 2200, 2250 and 2300 (heh all in a row, and yeah, not much, but it'll have to do)

Another strat I JUST thought of, is to base the Plant deck around Homoculous, what I mean is, using Lord Poison to special summon it back to the field after it's been destroyed, Similar to Book of Life for zombies, and also to use it as a Anti-attribute card, because whatever one you're facing, they're more than likely to run the field card .. in which case you will just change Homonculous's attribute to that type.

Also with Homonculous, if you don't wanna go PURE plants, you can use the Element monsters (ex: Element Valkyrie, Element Dragon, Element Soldier, etc..) but then you wouldn't be able to use Lord Poison to bring back them would you? Just homonculous.

Another strat you can use, is to base it off their Water attribute, and i'm not talking about A Legendary Ocean here, i'm talking about a long forgotten Field Spell called Umiiruka. Basically, your Water attributed Plant type's will get + 500 to their attack (yes, all other Water monsters as well, but we're focusing on Plants right now). Also let's not forget that when Lord Poison is in the graveyard, that is more "food" for Lekunga to use.

And last but not least, the strat that seems to be effective (in my head whlie i'm typing this lol) is a " Low Level Plant Beatdown" ... Basically using A Legendary Ocean instead of Umiiruka, and Homonculous (who you would obviously change it's attribute to Water), Lekunga, Lord Poison, and Jerry Beans Man will all be able to attack under Level Limit Area - B and Gravity-Bind and for the opening to stall with, Des Dendle for it's 2000 Defense!

Well, that's it for this article, see ya all next friday!! And I hope ya enjoyed this article.. just remember, no deck is impossible, but there are ones that require ALOT more effort to work (like Plants) than others (like zombie, chaos, etc..)

I'm also sorry that last week I said i'd do Dinosaurs, but I just quickly thought about doing a SEVERLY underplayed type... and I may just do Dino's next week, well, you'll just have to wait and see what it's gonna be about heh heh heh

-Dark Link (a.k.a. J.C. of Team Nightmare)

Tyrant Dragon101
10-01-2005, 08:11 PM
My Plant Deck (http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=209763)

theres my plant deck that i made about a week ago. And your article will really help some people dark-link. good job.

Dark-Link
10-01-2005, 08:13 PM
My Plant Deck (http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=209763)

theres my plant deck that i made about a week ago. And your article will really help some people dark-link. good job.

thank's, i'm trying to help as many people as possible with my article's, so i'm going to be reviewing strat's for EVERY SINGLE type and attribute, I dunno about arch-type's tho...

kazeknight0083
10-01-2005, 08:24 PM
A great article, especially since Plants get as much love as ****. They do regenerate field presence rather nicely, which is about all they can do. Perhaps you could try Fish, the other shameful, hidden-in-the-closet subtype of this game next.

Dark-Link
10-01-2005, 08:38 PM
A great article, especially since Plants get as much love as ****. They do regenerate field presence rather nicely, which is about all they can do. Perhaps you could try Fish, the other shameful, hidden-in-the-closet subtype of this game next.

either that or sea-serpent, i'm gonna do the lowest end of played types up to the most played.... so I will probably end off with either warrior's or fiend's or such... but I already did Dragon's which was sort of "in the middle" but ... it's already done so, on to the fish or dino's or sea-serpent or reptile or thunder's!!!

Tyrant Dragon101
10-01-2005, 08:41 PM
either that or sea-serpent, i'm gonna do the lowest end of played types up to the most played.... so I will probably end off with either warrior's or fiend's or such... but I already did Dragon's which was sort of "in the middle" but ... it's already done so, on to the fish or dino's or sea-serpent or reptile or thunder's!!!


Yay for the Batterymans who gave thunder major support, and a OTK at that!! :D

Dark-Link
10-01-2005, 08:44 PM
Yay for the Batterymans who gave thunder major support, and a OTK at that!! :D

heh, I got an idea already on what it's going to be about next week... lol I love knowing what it's going to be about while no-one else does!!!... just wait an see!

dkates
10-02-2005, 06:58 AM
I said this in another thread, but the problem with Plants is that so few of the 18 of them we have are even remotely playable. Add to that that the best approach to Plants, as you said, is probably EARTH/Plant with Lord Poisons and Homunculus included, and we run into another problem -- EARTH is a powerhouse type even without Gaia Power to help it. EARTH has so many Level 4 beatsticks (which either have or can easily attain 1900+ ATK), it's not even funny.

TsunamiArmy
10-02-2005, 09:22 AM
nice article dark, bu why have you not included truesdale in amongst the other plants ? since he does give all plants a 500atk boost.....i know i know, the errata kinda kills him, but he is still playable in a plant deck, with added water support

EDIT:- just had a thought.....could you use the water tokens generated by lekungs effect with the water spiritual art trap ??

UserShadow7989
10-04-2005, 07:30 PM
You forgot fairy king truesdale, who boost plant monsters' attack and defence stats by 500 each. :) can't wait for the next article! Also, fyi don't forget beast-warrior.

queefqueeferson
10-04-2005, 07:32 PM
Did Ja Know?

Did you know that plant monsters can use all of the spirit techniques?

Beast of Gilfer
10-04-2005, 07:56 PM
Hopefully they will release alot more Plant support in future sets becuase I would love see a competitive Plant deck.

Dark-Link
10-05-2005, 12:24 AM
the errata kinda kills him


'nuff said (he was referring to Fairy King Truesdale(who by the sound's of it, should be a Fairy ...))

Lord_Fluff
10-05-2005, 02:37 AM
actually, can someone list all the plant mons plz???

Roland
10-05-2005, 04:59 AM
I made a plant deck and i must say it works rather well. I tend to have a DNA surgery so when you have pirckle fairy on the field your oppenant can't attack! ^^

dkates
10-05-2005, 07:22 AM
actually, can someone list all the plant mons plz???

Anti-Aircraft Flower
Bean Soldier
Darkworld Thorns
Des Dendle
Dreamsprite
Fairy King Truesdale
Fiber Jar (banned)
Firegrass
Green Phantom King
Griggle
Homunculus the Alchemic Being
Jerry Beans Man
Lekunga
Lord Poison
Man Eater
Mystic Tomato
Prickle Fairy
Queen of Autumn Leaves
Rafflesia Seduction
Rainbow Flower
Trent
Vampire Orchis
Woodland Sprite

Dark-Link
10-05-2005, 12:17 PM
If this get's a bit more good review's... then i'll start postin deck's up for the next articles...

Cyan
10-05-2005, 04:41 PM
Plant doesn't work terribly well as the main type of the deck. Like there are Dragon/Warrior decks, Plant works best with another type.

For example, Anti-Aircraft Flower can work well in Insect decks. Even though Cannon Soldier works better, 200 extra damage per tribute isn't anything to scoff at. Plus, it can combo with the 2 Insect Token types. Army Ant Tokens and the Insect Tokens that Insect Queen creates via her effect. With Prickle Fairy as a block (or the standard Gravity Bind, Level Limit, Messenger of Peace...), this can do some nice burn damage. Throwing in some Dreamsprite wouldn't hurt either, especially with some high defense/attack monsters in the deck.

Jerry Beans Man is the highest attack Level 3 Vanilla monster, although it mostly has places in the side deck of a Beatdown deck, or perhaps Offensive Burn.

My five bucks ~ Cyan.

dkates
10-05-2005, 07:53 PM
Technically, Jerry Beans Man ties with Sonic Duck for the slot of highest-ATK Level 3 vanilla. They're both 1700's.

Aniodia
10-05-2005, 08:46 PM
...except for the fact that JBM is 1750.

99TourGuides
10-05-2005, 08:47 PM
I said this in another thread, but the problem with Plants is that so few of the 18 of them we have are even remotely playable. Add to that that the best approach to Plants, as you said, is probably EARTH/Plant with Lord Poisons and Homunculus included, and we run into another problem -- EARTH is a powerhouse type even without Gaia Power to help it. EARTH has so many Level 4 beatsticks (which either have or can easily attain 1900+ ATK), it's not even funny.
Sadly, I agree that Plants are too unplayable.

dkates
10-06-2005, 05:51 AM
...except for the fact that JBM is 1750.
... :o Oops... :o *reminds himself to double-check cards before making statements like that*

nicholascobalt
01-06-2006, 01:18 AM
First of all, thunder is played often, Thunder Dragon, The Creator, Zaborg... um, yeah, often enough, soul control, chaos and The Creator decks all depend on Thunder mons.

And secondly, Plants have awesome regenerative powers, one plant can revive any plant with an atk of 1500 or less to the field when it dies in battle... including it self.

And Tomato Control is Over played if anything.