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juno90210
08-25-2005, 11:07 AM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D

jinzomanz
08-25-2005, 11:11 AM
of course things like Silent Swordsman Lv.5 and Breaker are definately not worth ultra status. Now if you ask me, Shapesnatch should be an ultra.



I love Sarcasm.

kenshinEtErNaL
08-25-2005, 11:12 AM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D

I think you're paranoid.

Chaostamer
08-25-2005, 11:14 AM
of course things like Silent Swordsman Lv.5 and Breaker are definately not worth ultra status. Now if you ask me, Shapesnatch should be an ultra.





Yeah, Breaker, Nephthys, Pot of Avarice, Big Shield Gardna, Airknight... The list of crappy Ultras goes on and on. Ultra's suck.

Alexander James
08-25-2005, 11:16 AM
Yeah, Breaker, Nephthys, Pot of Avarice, Big Shield Gardna, Airknight... The list of crappy Ultras goes on and on. Ultra's suck.


yes But ultamate rares are geting better with cards like Cybernetic magician,and Goblin elite attack force

shadowfax
08-25-2005, 11:19 AM
ultimate rares are just rarer copies of others in the set, including ultras

Geo72590
08-25-2005, 11:20 AM
Well I don't think the newer ones suck... it's just that they can't be stuck in any deck like some of the better cards. Most of those have to be buillt in a specific deck. Even like the Creator... it's not just going into a random Chaos deck will it?

Chaostamer
08-25-2005, 11:20 AM
Ultas aren't the only cards that suck, either. Let's examine the following:
Tribe
Cyber Dragon
Cybernetic Magician
Morphing Jar
Lightning Vortex
Vampire Lord
Ring of Destruction
Jinzo
Des Wombat
D.D. Survivor
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady

THESE ALL SUCK!!!

DUELIST - HELDER
08-25-2005, 11:56 AM
Not every card is going to be solid and deserving of its rarity status - I think that Magical Marionette should have been a super rare or higher

PikeruLv5
08-25-2005, 11:58 AM
Ultas aren't the only cards that suck, either. Let's examine the following:
Tribe
Cyber Dragon
Cybernetic Magician
Morphing Jar
Lightning Vortex
Vampire Lord
Ring of Destruction
Jinzo
Des Wombat
D.D. Survivor
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady

THESE ALL SUCK!!!

how do these suck :confused:

DUELIST - HELDER
08-25-2005, 11:59 AM
I think he/she was being sarcastic...and if not...wow

dogo341
08-25-2005, 11:59 AM
Ultas aren't the only cards that suck, either. Let's examine the following:
Tribe
Cyber Dragon
Cybernetic Magician
Morphing Jar
Lightning Vortex
Vampire Lord
Ring of Destruction
Jinzo
Des Wombat
D.D. Survivor
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady

THESE ALL SUCK!!!

are you mad because you dont own them? J/K

Yuuki Hizoku
08-25-2005, 12:01 PM
It's really hard for people to detect sarcasm these days..... :(

Kameiko
08-25-2005, 12:23 PM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D

Actually Horus Level 8 is a VERY expensive and powerful ultra rare. The Creator Stinks he still might be worth something but he aint worht playing >>.

Silent Swordsman Lv. 5 is worth it.

Breaker..Super in my opinion at least.

Kameiko
08-25-2005, 12:31 PM
Ultas aren't the only cards that suck, either. Let's examine the following:
Tribe
Cyber Dragon
Cybernetic Magician
Morphing Jar
Lightning Vortex
Vampire Lord
Ring of Destruction
Jinzo
Des Wombat
D.D. Survivor
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady

THESE ALL SUCK!!!

Tribe can't be negates when first summoned exept by My Body as a shield, Horn of hevean, Solomen's judgement. Etc. because of its prioity.

Cyber Dragon is ok. I like to summon him first turn XP.

Cybernetic Magician is also a priority effect too so you can bottomless trap hole all you wnat Im still going to make my scapegoat or whatever 2000.

Morphing Jar. You have a stinky hand just use this card. It's really good and powerful to give you a better hand. sometiems your opponent too but that's a chance u have to take.

Lightning Vortex. You think this card stinks? I like to know what planet you are from. The only face down cards i seen are Mof, Spirit Reaper, Cyebr jar, and Morphing jar. I think I'll kust destroy ALL your face up monsters.

Vampire Lord. It's like a phoneix. You don't like phoneix either do you?

Ring of destruction is awsome! even though its on the banned list :(. I like to kamikaze myself into my opponent or kill them. Sometimes kill myself.

Jinzo. Negates traps...what's there not to like?

Des Wombat stops solar flare dragon....

D.D. Survivor. Want to use BLS removal effect? Ok! HE comes back next turn.

D.D. Assailant. I definetely want to know what planet you are from. I know the effect isnt optional but it removes anything from play thjat destroys it as a result of battle.

D.D warrior Lady: Now she is optional wich i like.

So anyways theres my reasons and sarcasim is the greatest thing ever.

Master Diesel
08-25-2005, 12:43 PM
Ultas aren't the only cards that suck, either. Let's examine the following:
Tribe
Cyber Dragon
Cybernetic Magician
Morphing Jar
Lightning Vortex
Vampire Lord
Ring of Destruction
Jinzo
Des Wombat
D.D. Survivor
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady

THESE ALL SUCK!!!

terrible...terrible cards

Nightmare Envoy
08-25-2005, 12:52 PM
Comon, apperantly you guys forgot the suckiest card of all....... BLS!!! now that card is horrid. I took mine out for shapesnatch cause he is awesome!!!!!! WHOOOAAHHAA!

kenshinEtErNaL
08-25-2005, 12:53 PM
What is it with people dissing Shapesnatch recently?

Nightmare Envoy
08-25-2005, 12:55 PM
LOL, I dunno but I actually used one in a duel a while ago ^_^

Kameiko
08-25-2005, 01:05 PM
he's got one eye and he's scary ^^

Chaostamer
08-25-2005, 01:24 PM
I think he/she was being sarcastic...and if not...wow

Yeas, this was STRONG sarcasm.

Chaostamer
08-25-2005, 01:25 PM
are you mad because you dont own them? J/K

Actually, I have:
7xTribe (super)
Cybernetic Magician
2xMorphing Jar
2xLightning Vortex
2xVampire Lord
7xRing of Destruction
2xJinzo
3xDes Wombat
2xD.D. Survivor
2xD.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady

However, I don't have Cyber Dragon and yes, I am mad!! :mad: :mad:

Nightmare Envoy
08-25-2005, 01:27 PM
I pulled a cyber and I'm loving it, whoo swarm ability!

Chaostamer
08-25-2005, 01:29 PM
Tribe can't be negates when first summoned exept by My Body as a shield, Horn of hevean, Solomen's judgement. Etc. because of its prioity.

Cyber Dragon is ok. I like to summon him first turn XP.

Cybernetic Magician is also a priority effect too so you can bottomless trap hole all you wnat Im still going to make my scapegoat or whatever 2000.

Morphing Jar. You have a stinky hand just use this card. It's really good and powerful to give you a better hand. sometiems your opponent too but that's a chance u have to take.

Lightning Vortex. You think this card stinks? I like to know what planet you are from. The only face down cards i seen are Mof, Spirit Reaper, Cyebr jar, and Morphing jar. I think I'll kust destroy ALL your face up monsters.

Vampire Lord. It's like a phoneix. You don't like phoneix either do you?

Ring of destruction is awsome! even though its on the banned list :(. I like to kamikaze myself into my opponent or kill them. Sometimes kill myself.

Jinzo. Negates traps...what's there not to like?

Des Wombat stops solar flare dragon....

D.D. Survivor. Want to use BLS removal effect? Ok! HE comes back next turn.

D.D. Assailant. I definetely want to know what planet you are from. I know the effect isnt optional but it removes anything from play thjat destroys it as a result of battle.

D.D warrior Lady: Now she is optional wich i like.

So anyways theres my reasons and sarcasim is the greatest thing ever.

It was SARCASM, but its cool to be quoted by everyone.

I love all those cards, especially V-Lord, Ring, DDA, And Phoenix.

Nightmare Envoy
08-25-2005, 01:31 PM
It was OBVIOUSLY sarcasm lol. Anyone who couldn't see that needs to read up on it.

mAsTer_PaiNe
08-25-2005, 01:46 PM
There are some very good Ultra Rares, but there are too many stupid and useless Ultra Rares. I agree. Rarities are nothing now. Back in the early days, Ultra rare are harder to get because they are good and useful. Now Ultra Rares are common garbage.

EDIT: Also what is up with the Shapesnatch popularity now? Is it going to be the next popular useless monster like Skull Servant? Man...

Chaostamer
08-25-2005, 02:00 PM
EDIT: Also what is up with the Shapesnatch popularity now? Is it going to be the next popular useless monster like Skull Servant? Man...

I guess so, since Skull Servant is actually Semi-playable.

Bacchus Voidnoise
08-25-2005, 02:20 PM
I guess so, since Skull Servant is actually Semi-playable.

So is Shapesnatch. Get it out with tomato, morph it into balter, and RFG for BLS.

lordjar
08-25-2005, 02:27 PM
Honestly... all up to you.

I personnally think all of the ultra rares are deserving of their status, because they are either a show card or are a good card (thus hard to get).

'But lordjar, what about Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth?'

....

....

YOU GET BACK IN YOUR CAGE!

mAsTer_PaiNe
08-25-2005, 07:06 PM
The reprint sets have the worst ultra rares!!! Everyone is looking for Cyber Stein, Morphing Jar, Needle Worm, Royal Decree, etc. and not Insect Queen, Command Knight, Swift Gaia, etc. WTF...we just had those from the tins set!

Since the cards that everyone wants is already harder to find than those lame Ultras, why not just make them Ultras because they'll look better as Ultra Rares anyways.

Short Print, Super Short Print...what a stupid ass way to make commons! Just how many levels of rarities can there be? Next there's going to be Super Extraordinary Short Short Common Rareness Print for Commons where there is only half of a card per 2 boxes. So you'll have to buy at least 4 boxes to even get the whole card, or maybe you won't even get 1 in a box!

Have Upperdeck/Konami lost the whole point behind rarities???!!! Make Ultras deserving of that rarity!

Captain Phan 7
08-25-2005, 07:13 PM
Cards like Black Tyranno, Byser Shock, Swift Gaia, etc should not have been Ultra Rares.

When I pulled Swift Gaia out of DB2, i sold it to the store owner and he even asked "Why is it an Ultra Rare?"

Kameiko
08-25-2005, 07:25 PM
It was SARCASM, but its cool to be quoted by everyone.

I love all those cards, especially V-Lord, Ring, DDA, And Phoenix.

I know didnt you read my last line of my post. i said i loved sarcasim meanign i was just messing.

kenshinEtErNaL
08-25-2005, 07:25 PM
Cards like Black Tyranno, Byser Shock, Swift Gaia, etc should not have been Ultra Rares.

When I pulled Swift Gaia out of DB2, i sold it to the store owner and he even asked "Why is it an Ultra Rare?"


Just WHAT the hell is wrong with Byser Shock?

Kameiko
08-25-2005, 07:26 PM
Just WHAT the hell is wrong with Byser Shock?

Nothing really. it's alright.

Alexander James
08-25-2005, 07:39 PM
Ultas aren't the only cards that suck, either. Let's examine the following:
Tribe
Cyber Dragon
Cybernetic Magician
Morphing Jar
Lightning Vortex
Vampire Lord
Ring of Destruction
Jinzo
Des Wombat
D.D. Survivor
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady

THESE ALL SUCK!!!

I beg to differ :p

Good:

Jinzo
Cybernetic magician
Lightning vortex
Tribe
Ring of destruction
D.D.Assailant
D.D.Warrior lady

Bad: :mad:

D.D.Survivor
Des wambat

I dont know:

Cyber dragon
Morphing jar
Vampire lord

Geo72590
08-25-2005, 10:06 PM
I beg to differ :p

Good:

Jinzo
Cybernetic magician
Lightning vortex
Tribe
Ring of destruction
D.D.Assailant
D.D.Warrior lady

Bad: :mad:

D.D.Survivor
Des wambat

I dont know:

Cyber dragon
Morphing jar
Vampire lord
Yes, Des Wombat sucks. I will never use him against Burn becasue it's an ultra rare.
D.D. Survivor sucks because it's bad against Chaos. Funny how DDS would be bad again DDWL and DDA.
Cyber Dragon sucks. I will use Fiend Megacyber because of it's 100 atk higher.
V. Lord sucks because he'll pop back up on the feild so I can use another trap or spell on it.

Why isn't BEWD on the list?
I was J/king btw...

Yeah, there are bad Ultras now, but there are some bad ones back then too.

DivineVTDragon
08-25-2005, 10:14 PM
I dunno what you people are talking; all the cards mentioned are pwnaGe.

Even Byser Shock.

Yes, Byser Shock, not a typo.

mAsTer_PaiNe
08-25-2005, 11:41 PM
We all know that Byser Shock sucks! C'mon bring it out with Mystic Tomato and return the opponent's set cards...so what? If it's their turn, they'll just reset them. If it's your turn you could've brought out something more useful like a Sangan. Just returning set cards is not good enough. Use Giant Trunade if you want to return cards, and Giant Trunade returns all m/t cards. Set monsters is better to be Crossout than return to the hand.

Those who say that Byser Shock is good. Play it in your deck and win tourneys. But about the Rarities, it's totally messed up. Ultras and Supers mean jack!

kenshinEtErNaL
08-25-2005, 11:53 PM
Play it in your deck and win tourneys.

YamiBakuraFan apparently did that for me and did very well.

lordjar
08-27-2005, 05:38 PM
I know this guy, names red green (no lie), and he used byser shock. Using SoCL, Book of moon, and Tsukuyomi. After setting down the best stuff it was time to bring out Byser Shock. Eventually it got so irritating that everytime it happened, some of the players would say "Son of a Byser Shock" just after Byser Shock came out, or when they saw it coming.

Orange Mage
08-27-2005, 05:45 PM
Ultas aren't the only cards that suck, either. Let's examine the following:
Tribe
Cyber Dragon
Cybernetic Magician
Morphing Jar
Lightning Vortex
Vampire Lord
Ring of Destruction
Jinzo
Des Wombat
D.D. Survivor
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady

THESE ALL SUCK!!!



u forgot reflect bounder, mystic swordsman lv4, goblin elite force


but the worst ultra ever is that Fusioh richie, id rather use it for fire fuel than ever to be used in a duel. Its like almost as pointless as the gate guardians

mightymage
08-27-2005, 05:55 PM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D

I disagree. . .

. . . As far as playability,The Creator isn't worth the cardboard it's printed on.

NeoSephiroth
08-27-2005, 06:31 PM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D
How can you forget Greece's favorite Pheonix?

juno90210
09-24-2005, 11:46 AM
THe Creator is an awesome card if it is played right.Another card that should see more play is Reshef the Dark Bieng.Nobody pays attention to that card!

Darth Payne
09-24-2005, 01:55 PM
THe Creator is an awesome card if it is played right.Another card that should see more play is Reshef the Dark Bieng.Nobody pays attention to that card!
Yeah. right. so correct.

Black Paladin
09-24-2005, 02:32 PM
what do you mean not all ultras aren't worth their rarities? what about breaker
don
horus
bounder
torrential
mirror force
dark ruler hades
marauding captain
creature swap
TP1 chaser
TP3 needle worm
TP2 morphing jar
solemn judgement
snatch stel
call of the haunted
premtaure burial
TER
last turn
BLS-eotb
blowback dragon
cyber end dragon
sacred phoenix

can't think of anymore

Mastastupidfa
09-24-2005, 02:44 PM
THe Creator is an awesome card if it is played right.Another card that should see more play is Reshef the Dark Bieng.Nobody pays attention to that card!
Lol, noob.
Don't deny, you and the topic starter are a noob.
NOOBS!

anywho, mr starter, have you ever had 2 thnder Giants staring you down on your opponents first turn? I haven't but I've done it too my opponent. Then normal Summoned Des Wobat (he was burn). Can you perchance say owned?
Ancient Gear Golem is so Kick*****a 3000 trample that STOPS stuff like mirror force and Sakuretsu. Best part? 3000/3000. Reshef well... he does suck.
UFOROID figher gave meaning to Gate Gaurdian! Cyber End made a New OTK. Winged Kuriboh made a new deck type!
Power Bond Made Cyber Twin even Scarier!
I could go on, but there's no point.
We all know, the news sets give us crap. But wait!
They suck in CC! They inspire thier own decks! That WILL do well!

beastyboy493
09-24-2005, 04:21 PM
Ummmm.... yeah...

The Creator is definetly the best Ultra leik ever....

yeah...

Dark Vigilante
09-24-2005, 04:45 PM
Its just the flow of the sets. These were released a while ago in Japan.

drizzztdourden
09-24-2005, 04:59 PM
Lol, noob.
Don't deny, you and the topic starter are a noob.
NOOBS!

anywho, mr starter, have you ever had 2 thnder Giants staring you down on your opponents first turn? I haven't but I've done it too my opponent. Then normal Summoned Des Wobat (he was burn). Can you perchance say owned?
Ancient Gear Golem is so Kick*****a 3000 trample that STOPS stuff like mirror force and Sakuretsu. Best part? 3000/3000. Reshef well... he does suck.
UFOROID figher gave meaning to Gate Gaurdian! Cyber End made a New OTK. Winged Kuriboh made a new deck type!
Power Bond Made Cyber Twin even Scarier!
I could go on, but there's no point.
We all know, the news sets give us crap. But wait!
They suck in CC! They inspire thier own decks! That WILL do well!

not sayin that the creator is top teir, but a creator deck did win a sjc a while back

Watapon456
09-24-2005, 07:39 PM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D

yeah, theres no way BLS Envoy should be ultra rare, theres just no way.

Aqua edge
09-24-2005, 07:44 PM
I always thought Monster Reborn was worth its Ultra Rare status. (it did get banned after all...)

mightymage
09-24-2005, 07:48 PM
I like the fact that not all of the super and Ultra rares are, "deserving" of their status. To a certain degree, it helps keep scalers in check.

Megarock
09-24-2005, 07:55 PM
Ultas aren't the only cards that suck, either. Let's examine the following:
Tribe
Cyber Dragon
Cybernetic Magician
Morphing Jar
Lightning Vortex
Vampire Lord
Ring of Destruction
Jinzo
Des Wombat
D.D. Survivor
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady

THESE ALL SUCK!!!

Oh dear. I never thought I'd see this as a bad list,but hey whatever floats your boat.

StealthoftheWest
09-24-2005, 08:00 PM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D


No. The Creator is one of the few cards not worth its rarity.

Sand_Dune
09-24-2005, 08:07 PM
i think you guys scared off the guy who started the post

and how is shape snatch awesome? Flame Champion is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better. Breaker? i traded mine for a king of the skull servants. oooooooooooo yea

Emnm
09-24-2005, 09:23 PM
What is it with people dissing Shapesnatch recently?
Yeah it doesn't make sense. Just like thousand eyes idol.

juno90210
09-28-2005, 03:43 PM
No. The Creator is one of the few cards not worth its rarity.
It is worth its rarity.The effect can be comboed in some grat ways.B.luter soldier-eotb isnt that great,in fact chaos cards arent that great.Oh no i'll probably get angry people coming after me about this statemant

Mastastupidfa
09-28-2005, 03:53 PM
creator-sinister=hmmmmm

juno90210
09-28-2005, 03:56 PM
creator-sinister=hmmmmm
Exactly what I mean by great combos

Bokuto_No_Ryu
09-28-2005, 04:04 PM
Why should Ultra rares be cards needed to play competativly? In my opinion, Ultras should be "niche" cards only needed for specific decks, so people can have no problem getting cards needed to be competative.

MagnabladerX4
09-28-2005, 04:05 PM
so i suppose that "phoenix god of nephthys" is crappy ?

Absolute Gloska
09-28-2005, 04:19 PM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D
You said that only to piss people off and get a lot of responses, didn't you?

Ryobit
09-28-2005, 04:28 PM
Something that UDE has not been very good at has been giving the grand majority of cards rarities they mostly dont deserve. Since Legend of the Blue Eyes White Dragon to Cybernetic Revolutions. Card's are not judged by players by their rarity, instead they should be judged by what they can and cant do. Also, it's a little dumb to say that ultras are getting weaker because if it's one thing every single yugioh set has taught us is this. Just because a card is ultra rare does not make it good.

The Obsession
09-28-2005, 05:00 PM
Card's are not judged by players by their rarity, instead they should be judged by what they can and cant do. Also, it's a little dumb to say that ulras are getting weaker because LOB just because a card is ultra rare does not make it good.

That's true for the most part. I judge a card by how can be played and what its uses are,not that if it UR it's better than a SR. But there are still a lot of people who think that way. I like some cards being the harder rarity if they're ones I don't care about getting out of a pack. :)

xyzmagemaster
09-28-2005, 05:04 PM
two words sacred phoenix
nuff said

prophecy250
09-28-2005, 07:40 PM
UFOroid isnt worth being a super. there is nothing more disheartening then openning up a box and pulling 2 of these things

IAmNotOne
09-28-2005, 08:00 PM
Byser Shock should not have been reprinted as an ultra. It is undeserving of the status.

juno90210
09-30-2005, 02:43 PM
You said that only to piss people off and get a lot of responses, didn't you?
No I didnt :p
Maybe you just posted that to get attention :D

marauding axe
09-30-2005, 06:36 PM
ultimates look like pure carp IMHO...very gaudy, tacky stuff...
are you listening UD????

Radant128
09-30-2005, 07:16 PM
To Shapesnatch dissers...... Stop hating on it. Lets diss my favorite useless monster... Succubus Knight. But then they aren't 100% useless.... Its called Metamorphosis.

Creator is a good card until you realize one important fact.... He can't be special summoned from the graveyard. Doesn't it suck that the Creator cant create himself?

My view on this is:
only 50% of Ultras these days are worth being Ultra.
Most Supers are worth being Super or even Ultra
Most Rares these days are only worth commons.
And there are alot of commons worth being rare.

UFOroid Fighter should have been at best, a common. I was pissed when I pulled it at the CRV preview but I was glad to rip someone off with it to get me some cards I needed for my Last Turn and Water decks.

Mystic Gohan
09-30-2005, 07:21 PM
Spell Canceller, Don Zaloog, Mirror force, Creature swap, Monster Reborn (sort of), Change of heart (sort of), Fiber jar, Mystical space typhoon, Breaker the magical warrior...need I continue.

DragonRyder
09-30-2005, 07:27 PM
I think Breaker is worth its rarety. Its a good card with a good effect. One thing I always thought is why did they make Armed Dragon Lv5 a rare? It should of been made a Super, if not even a ultra. Thats just my opinion.

juno90210
10-03-2005, 11:49 AM
Oaky maybe I forgot a lot of cards but I was just bringing the Creator into the open.It is a good,it could've been better thats for sure but deck possibilitie are great.Yes Cyber End Dragon is a powerful card but I dont play fusions.I played Dark Palidin at once but it lost horrribly at a tournament(dark times,dark times).Currently I own a Cyber Twin Dragon and it hasnt been played in my decks yet so Im not sure how I should play it in a deck.My friend suggested Metamorphasis with Nephthys what do you think?

spawngod316
10-03-2005, 12:28 PM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D


Sorry man, you're sigged!


Anyway, there are TONS of ultra rares worth their rariety! Don Zaloog, Enemy Controller, Last Turn (uniqueness and own deck material), Cyber End Dragon, Sacred Phoenix, Snatch Steal, Mystical Space Typhoon, Delinquent Duo, Mirror Force, The Forceful Sentry, Monster Reborn, Airknight Parshath, Creature Swap, Change of Heart, Premature Burial, Torrential Tribute, Breaker the Magical Warrior, Marauding Captain, Black Luster Soldier-Envoy of the Beginning, Ceasefire.

It's just noticable that most get reprinted to a common or get restricted/banned!

Landstar 01
10-03-2005, 12:36 PM
I agree that Ultras tend to be weak, and not worth their status. However, we get stuff like E-Hero fusions (flame wingman, thunder giant, and all 4 URs from EEN), Cyber End Dragon, Sacred Phoenix, etc... and they really do deserve their rarity.

queefqueeferson
10-03-2005, 01:39 PM
i think dmoc should have been a secret.

#1 OF TEAM EXILE
10-03-2005, 01:49 PM
ur crazy. a few thing deserve it. not all.

juno90210
10-05-2005, 11:55 AM
Ive already said I made a mistake.Some ultras arent though,lets stick with the term that some ultras arent worth their rarities

i need tips for my site, www.maxpages.com/megayugi

Sjhills2004
10-05-2005, 11:59 AM
If ya'll don't like your Ultra Rares, just trade them off for better cards.

juno90210
10-05-2005, 12:10 PM
Tahts a simple way of putting it but i gave myself a better idea...SELL them.Winged Kuriboh lv 10 can sell for $90.00 bucks

spawngod316
10-05-2005, 12:13 PM
Tahts a simple way of putting it but i gave myself a better idea...SELL them.Winged Kuriboh lv 10 can sell for $90.00 bucks


90 bucks??? Tell me where I can do that, lol!

I do wish that some of the more powerful, original cards should have been originally printed as ultra rares. Example: pot of greed, sangan, witch of the black forest, etc.

Shinto (Advent)
10-05-2005, 01:02 PM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D


yea they are I mean an ultra rare vlord is liek crap, and how about that Jinzo ultra rare i laugh at that [sarcasm/]

Mastastupidfa
10-05-2005, 02:13 PM
Oaky maybe I forgot a lot of cards but I was just bringing the Creator into the open.It is a good,it could've been better thats for sure but deck possibilitie are great.Yes Cyber End Dragon is a powerful card but I dont play fusions.I played Dark Palidin at once but it lost horrribly at a tournament(dark times,dark times).Currently I own a Cyber Twin Dragon and it hasnt been played in my decks yet so Im not sure how I should play it in a deck.My friend suggested Metamorphasis with Nephthys what do you think?
The Creator deserved MYBE super, You don't play fusions? Prepare to be stomped by E-Heros, you cannot understand their power. Dark Paladin has always been known to suck, Cyber Twin is now more then ever a good idea to fuse normally or Power Bonded, Meta is banned, and so was the main meta-d' monster, BLS. Twin is still deadly.

theDeadlyCow
10-05-2005, 05:11 PM
Creator is not worth it's rarity and MANY other ultras are. CRV may not have been the best set for ultras but cyber dragon pwns.

Darth Payne
10-05-2005, 05:12 PM
Who the heck is going to take seriously someone who thinks the Creator is good?

I Love Manzuri
10-05-2005, 05:37 PM
Yeah, Breaker, Nephthys, Pot of Avarice, Big Shield Gardna, Airknight... The list of crappy Ultras goes on and on. Ultra's suck.

Looks like somebody's wearing their stupid cap on too tight: Jar of Avarice is a super rare.

Anyways, some are, some aren't. Remember, the cards, for their time, may have been worth Ultra Rare rarity. I mean, like, Mirror Force is still worth its Ultra rare status, even if it's banned. Time Wizard, on the other hand, was not worth being Ultra Rare, even back then.

Breaker IMO isn't worth its Ultra Rare status, and, heh, it's about to be commonized.

InnerChaos
10-05-2005, 06:52 PM
The only problem I have with the Ultra's is that all the EHero fusions are all hella hard to come by. Especially for a poor man in an area with limited players.

But hey, nothing to ***** about. Rarities are here for a reason.

juno90210
10-07-2005, 11:24 AM
Alright,I'll make it clear,Elemental Hero Fusions do not strike fear into me

King_Max
10-07-2005, 01:05 PM
i think retail secrets are the worst and dont deserve the paper they were printed on. the only one worth a spot in any deck was cylinder and debatable lava golem. i hate pulling 8 diffusion wave motions and not even a hint of a breaker.

Tha Msnjah
10-07-2005, 06:38 PM
Yeah, Breaker, Nephthys, Pot of Avarice, Big Shield Gardna, Airknight... The list of crappy Ultras goes on and on. Ultra's suck.

JAR of Avarice is not an ultra smart guy. I think its funny when people fail to research cards and act like they know everything about them.

*Goes off to slap nOObs.*

juno90210
10-12-2005, 10:28 AM
Whan i logged in i thought i would see more answers then this.Oh well

Go Creator!!

baseball boy
10-13-2005, 09:23 AM
you guys are kinda going of the subject????

Mastastupidfa
10-13-2005, 02:02 PM
Alright,I'll make it clear,Elemental Hero Fusions do not strike fear into me
I'll make it Clear. The Creator Stikes Fear in N00bs.

iJustice
10-13-2005, 04:38 PM
of course things like Silent Swordsman Lv.5 and Breaker are definately not worth ultra status. Now if you ask me, Shapesnatch should be an ultra.



I love Sarcasm.


XD, I think Morphinin is a better pick... NO!............. Thousand Eyes Idol baby.

RagingHorus
10-13-2005, 04:39 PM
I think Horus 8 makes a powerful ultra, although it needs more support

Shadow of Death
10-13-2005, 05:09 PM
They've definitely been getting worse than dark magician, gaia the fierce knight, red-eyes b. dragon, b. skull dragon, toon mermaid, toon summoned skull, list goes on.

Hell, even cards like mystical elf and celtic guardian were super rares in the legend of blue-eyes white dragon, same with curse of dragon and most cards little kids would have wanted more than playability. At least when I opened packs and got holos I got sorl, exodia pieces, mirror force, raigeki, etc back in the day.

nobodys99
10-13-2005, 05:13 PM
i dont think lots of ultras suck

i just think that we havent had a good one since IOC
besides cyber end dragon, winged kuriboh LV 10 and ancient gear golem

the creator is a 3/10 because it has a weak attack and your oppopnent can just snatch steal it

and theres plenty of cards that are good that deserve to be ultras

i think we are due for a pack that has ultra rares that change the game as we know it. just like BLS EOTB and CED did

Mastastupidfa
10-13-2005, 05:59 PM
Uh... AGG and LV10 aren't too hot themselves. And End is only good in OTK really.

Our Ultras are Crap now.... AND it makes getting My E-Heros Up-to-snuff HARD

Darth Payne
10-13-2005, 06:02 PM
The Ultras these days aren't great like BLS and stuff, but they're good which is better than having another CED.

robotvman
10-13-2005, 07:02 PM
ultras are starting to suck because sets are starting to suck...

juno90210
10-20-2005, 03:20 PM
i dont think lots of ultras suck

i just think that we havent had a good one since IOC
besides cyber end dragon, winged kuriboh LV 10 and ancient gear golem

the creator is a 3/10 because it has a weak attack and your oppopnent can just snatch steal it

and theres plenty of cards that are good that deserve to be ultras

i think we are due for a pack that has ultra rares that change the game as we know it. just like BLS EOTB and CED did
kuriboh lv10 stinks and cyber dragon is a super rare

juno90210
10-20-2005, 03:24 PM
I'll make it Clear. The Creator Stikes Fear in N00bs.
The Creator does strike fear into noobs.Im not afraid of it(not a noob) and it strikes fear into no one until it has been on the field long enough.Since it strikes fear into noobs,how about i use it aginst you(HA)I wouldnt waste my time

beastyboy493
10-21-2005, 08:59 AM
i dont think lots of ultras suck

i just think that we havent had a good one since IOC
besides cyber end dragon, winged kuriboh LV 10 and ancient gear golem

the creator is a 3/10 because it has a weak attack and your oppopnent can just snatch steal it

and theres plenty of cards that are good that deserve to be ultras

i think we are due for a pack that has ultra rares that change the game as we know it. just like BLS EOTB and CED did

Are you kidding?

Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys isn't a good Ultra Rare?

Bokuto_No_Ryu
10-21-2005, 11:17 AM
i think we are due for a pack that has ultra rares that change the game as we know it. just like BLS EOTB and CED did

But they changed it for the worse...

What Is It ?
10-21-2005, 01:18 PM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D


who plays creator??????.....someone doesnt know anything about the meta.

cyber end dragon is 10/10 because it is a fusion and it goes for 40$. nephtys is really good. ELEMENTAL HERO FUSIONS are amazing. Breaker!!!!!!!!!Horus Lv 8. BLS-EOTB the broken one himself. how arent these good cards. is there something wrong with you????????????????????????????????????

P.S. sorry i got really late in on this discussion lol.



______________What Is It ?

Shadow_Judas
10-21-2005, 03:09 PM
I think you're paranoid.
Agree for once :D

Gegroet.

GOD.
10-21-2005, 03:26 PM
Beast of Talwar ;]

juno90210
11-14-2005, 05:18 PM
i dont think lots of ultras suck

i just think that we havent had a good one since IOC
besides cyber end dragon, winged kuriboh LV 10 and ancient gear golem

the creator is a 3/10 because it has a weak attack and your oppopnent can just snatch steal it

and theres plenty of cards that are good that deserve to be ultras

i think we are due for a pack that has ultra rares that change the game as we know it. just like BLS EOTB and CED did
Winged Kuriboh lv 10 is one of the worst ultras

Darth Vailo
11-14-2005, 05:21 PM
YGO cards on a whole are getting weaker. Konami, in their hope of never repeating a mistake like Chaos, is trying to make balanced cards. The problem is that they are giving us far fewer premium cards to use.

juno90210
11-14-2005, 05:21 PM
Beast of Talwar ;]
Are you kidding.Beast of Talwar!!!!!If you mean you think thats a good card you must be a beginner

UFOroidFighter
11-14-2005, 07:10 PM
GOD this was funny to read all of these replies! Im crying out of laughter!everyone making usless opinions and such! It was funny! Really it was! :cool:

Lipid Inpachi
11-14-2005, 07:34 PM
Mobius should of been Ultra in my opinion.

shiro tokuda
11-14-2005, 07:41 PM
I hated all een ultras

UFOroidFighter
11-14-2005, 07:41 PM
Mobius should of been Ultra in my opinion.
Not really, when he was first created, he sucked so bad :cool:

juno90210
11-30-2005, 03:39 PM
Not really, when he was first created, he sucked so bad :cool:
my mobius is used as a cup holder

Mj0SkiVeR
11-30-2005, 03:49 PM
my mobius is used as a cup holderNow that's just sad. :(

All the LOB holo monster (except for BEWD and DM) sucks!

kEviN21
11-30-2005, 03:53 PM
Royal Decree should have been an ULTRA....same for mirror force....instead of some of the dumb ultras in DB2....

Cyber End, Ancient Gear Golem are cool ultras but they dont impact the game as much as the IOC dudes.....I blame E HEROS lol

Mj0SkiVeR
11-30-2005, 04:03 PM
Royal Decree should have been an ULTRA....same for mirror force....instead of some of the dumb ultras in DB2....

Cyber End, Ancient Gear Golem are cool ultras but they dont impact the game as much as the IOC dudes.....I blame E HEROS lolOn the highlighted area in the qute, i completely agree.

Susa Soldier SHOULD NEVER BE ABOVE RARE! :mad:

Due to that, Yata-Garasu was trash and made into a common.

Cardplayer27
11-30-2005, 04:06 PM
Royal Decree should have been an ULTRA....same for mirror force....instead of some of the dumb ultras in DB2....

Cyber End, Ancient Gear Golem are cool ultras but they dont impact the game as much as the IOC dudes.....I blame E HEROS lol

I like E Heros in EEN being Ultras, gives me an unlikely chance in pulling them out. lol

kEviN21
11-30-2005, 04:16 PM
hahahaha........well we're unfortunate that blade edge is a super... :(

Mj0SkiVeR
11-30-2005, 04:42 PM
hahahaha........well we're unfortunate that blade edge is a super... :(He doesn't deserve to be a Super Rare, IM0. :cool:
He got off since he's a E-Hero.
Look at Dark Driceratops. He ain't super.

daman27
11-30-2005, 04:59 PM
I came close to spasing when i pulled Different Dimension master from CRV. I mean really a 1700 tribute ultra rare monster, I was going for at least a Elite Goblin Attack Force not a stupid different dimension master.

Mastastupidfa
11-30-2005, 04:59 PM
Wasn't WIldman originally a Super?
EDIT: DDM is a Rare.
You pulled an Ultimate.
OMG!

Wardog369
11-30-2005, 05:00 PM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D



REPRINTS. We all hate\love 'em.

daman27
11-30-2005, 05:08 PM
Cool I pulled an ultimate (reverts to pissed off mode) now why couldn't have been cyber end dragon or in a SoD pack a LV8 Horus.

Lipid Inpachi
11-30-2005, 05:47 PM
He doesn't deserve to be a Super Rare, IM0. :cool:
He got off since he's a E-Hero.
Look at Dark Driceratops. He ain't super.
Is Dark Driceratops fusion material for a kick arse fusion? No.
Does Dark Driceratops get Warrior support? No.

I'm aware that he's 2 tribute, but people just use him for the fusion (I know thats all I use him for)

Etna iCe
12-01-2005, 01:02 AM
DB2 Injection Fairy Lily is a good Ultra. Plus I think the ultra foil art looks cooler than the secret rare but thats just my opinion.

I just wanna pimp Lily all day long.

buncxs_2
12-01-2005, 10:54 AM
black luster soldier promo looks great even better than ultra version but there are a lot of cards that arent worth the ultra version or secret version like invader jajajajaj
Diffusion Wave - Motion
luster dragon
Blast Held by a Tribute
Cost down
dark mirror force
Mazera DeVille
Silent Swordsman LV3 please this guy ultra?
Barrel Dragon deserves to be super not ultra
Insect Queen this need to be less than common ahahhah

and the list goes

GuardianEnilk
12-01-2005, 02:49 PM
Actually Horus Level 8 is a VERY expensive and powerful ultra rare. The Creator Stinks he still might be worth something but he aint worht playing >>.

Silent Swordsman Lv. 5 is worth it.

Breaker..Super in my opinion at least.

yeah, Horus LVL 8 is what my friend uses to beat me often. It's amazing.

juno90210
12-06-2005, 05:29 PM
yeah, Horus LVL 8 is what my friend uses to beat me often. It's amazing.
Breaker was re-released in Dark Beginning 2 as,surprise,still an ultra rare so accordding to konami it is still worth ultra rare status

Shadow of Death
12-06-2005, 06:44 PM
Anyone who played between LOB-LOD knows that we've had our fair share of crappy ultras not to mention secrets and holos all together. Only half of them were even worth noticing and some rares were better (like cyber jar, giant germ, bottomless trap hole, etc)

Shadow of Death
12-06-2005, 07:01 PM
I came close to spasing when i pulled Different Dimension master from CRV. I mean really a 1700 tribute ultra rare monster, I was going for at least a Elite Goblin Attack Force not a stupid different dimension master.

D.D.M. Different Dimension Master isn't ultra rare.

aggro
12-07-2005, 04:21 PM
Ultas aren't the only cards that suck, either. Let's examine the following:
Tribe
Cyber Dragon
Cybernetic Magician
Morphing Jar
Lightning Vortex
Vampire Lord
Ring of Destruction
Jinzo
Des Wombat
D.D. Survivor
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady

THESE ALL SUCK!!!

you are a retarded idiot

kEviN21
12-07-2005, 04:30 PM
I guess reprints are made so that others can get them easier...

just look at breaker..its a limited edition now in MC2...same for horus, the creator, phoenix, and silent lv5....these were relly rare cards and now their REALLY easy to get making the people who spent a lot to get their original horus lv8 etc look bad.....

Enemy Controller is a super now too and the ultra WAS worth a lot....

Bottomline...reprints of Ultras suck

juno90210
12-13-2005, 05:25 PM
I guess reprints are made so that others can get them easier...

just look at breaker..its a limited edition now in MC2...same for horus, the creator, phoenix, and silent lv5....these were relly rare cards and now their REALLY easy to get making the people who spent a lot to get their original horus lv8 etc look bad.....

Enemy Controller is a super now too and the ultra WAS worth a lot....

Bottomline...reprints of Ultras suck
yeah who cares about the limited edition versions.this page is for ultra rares not limiteds

Lord of the Bling
12-13-2005, 05:59 PM
Someone doesn't remember Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning.

Shiryuu
12-13-2005, 08:33 PM
you know what card really didnt need to be a Ultra

Garnencia Elephantis


ha beat that

Agent9
12-13-2005, 08:34 PM
that's a super not an ultra rare

Shiryuu
12-13-2005, 08:35 PM
awww crap he's right

(pouts)

oh well

gaia the fierce knight

oh oh or maybe F

horus'masta
12-13-2005, 08:38 PM
Ultra Rares are getting weaker.The Creator is the only card worth its rarity.If you disagree post a reply. :D
creator sux.

Gundam Deathscythe
12-13-2005, 08:53 PM
wth is Shapesnatch
Koitsu Should Be an Ultamate Rare that is the best card 9 stars and 300 atk best card ever

juno90210
01-03-2006, 03:47 PM
creator sux.
I changed my opinion a long time ago.Black Luster Soldier EOTB is the only on worth its rarity.Well maybe not the only one since Raigeki was upgrade in beginnings 1

Don Zaruug
01-03-2006, 04:09 PM
Skull servant sould be an Ultra ..... he he :p

zephyr_
01-03-2006, 05:01 PM
I think you're paranoid.


lol...

Anyway to the original poster: I hope you were kidding about that creator thing...

But actually now that all those e heros are the ultras your right.

__________________
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http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=244188

5oo+ posts and I'm still a newbie...that has to be a record or something lol.

juno90210
01-04-2006, 03:21 PM
lol...

Anyway to the original poster: I hope you were kidding about that creator thing...

But actually now that all those e heros are the ultras your right.

__________________
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5oo+ posts and I'm still a newbie...that has to be a record or something lol.
I wasnt kidding at the time but ive changed my opinion quite a bit.I still think they over do some of the rarities

1st Edition
01-04-2006, 04:21 PM
aren't thread like these not allowed?

Rudoku
01-04-2006, 04:22 PM
aren't thread like these not allowed?
Obviously not since it's over four months old and hasn't been closed yet.

LightAngelOmega
01-04-2006, 06:40 PM
but ultras are shinny and cool looking! who cares if there worth it or not

juno90210
01-11-2006, 03:06 PM
but ultras are shinny and cool looking! who cares if there worth it or not
Some arent cool looking(yet another debate)

chaos01
01-11-2006, 03:09 PM
Ultas aren't the only cards that suck, either. Let's examine the following:
Tribe
Cyber Dragon
Cybernetic Magician
Morphing Jar
Lightning Vortex
Vampire Lord
Ring of Destruction
Jinzo
Des Wombat
D.D. Survivor
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady

THESE ALL SUCK!!!
man dude u better be sarcastic or else u are playing paranoid

Radical Dreamer
01-11-2006, 05:41 PM
So what if the ultras aren't worth it, I actually like it that way, since
I can't spent much on yugioh and the prices in germany are usually higher than in america.

Lately the ultras tend to be themespecific, which I appreciate.
It evens the metagame if good cards are easily available.
And if you desperately want to play a new decktype when it first comes out, well then you have to get those ultras to support your theme.

Chasing ultras doesn't really pay off anyway with the recent reprint speed.
If you can get them great, but since the good ultras are usually available as ultimates too I don't see much sense, as most collectors or shiny foil fans just get those anyway.

SilentMagician2006
01-11-2006, 06:00 PM
the only ultras that suck are the e heros!

L96 Psychopath
01-11-2006, 08:45 PM
of course things like Silent Swordsman Lv.5 and Breaker are definately not worth ultra status. Now if you ask me, Shapesnatch should be an ultra.



I love Sarcasm.


good one jinzomanz