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johnnyd2
08-12-2005, 03:04 PM
who do you think are the best and worst filler characters from GX and DM are?

DM:

Best:

Rebecca: She's cute and her deck concept is awesome!

Worst: Johnny Steps. His deck sucked period. He didnt even duel the whole way! cant think of any worse filler characters.

GX

best: Rei. she was pretty cute and I actually liked her deck. It would be great to see her return some time and use the Elemental Charmers and Posessors in her deck.

Worst: SAL, Now that I think about it, you dont have to duel to be cool (no pun intended). I agree with MetallicPyreal about Kunisaki and am changing my opinion. SAL is now IMO the WORST GX filler character, I mean i was dissapointed that the writers screwed up this chance to show a good amount of beast cards in the anime (cough cough* manticore of darkness* cough cough). Sadly, they did and we were stuck with one of the *****tiest duels of all time with one of the most crappy characters of all time.

Opinions? I havent watched any GX epsiodes, only read summaries.

Chaos Swordsman
08-12-2005, 03:27 PM
DM
Best:
Raphael-Guardian Eatos and his back story were good

Dartz-Back story and dueling were good wih the broken cards

Rebecca-Cute and her realtionship with Yugi is good :D

Worst
Jonney-Dueling sucks,can't even play half-way through the door.

GX
Rei-Cute,funny and hopefully in the 2nd Year with Juudai :)

Worst-SAL.Wow isn't it funny how I play only play 4 cards and am the worst duelist ever?

99TourGuides
08-12-2005, 03:32 PM
DM:

Best: Rafael and Dartz. This world's people do indeed need to be eaten by a giant snake.

Worst: I'd agree with Johnny Steps. I wish he was real, so I can eat him.

I haven't seen enough of GX to say for sure.

~Linked~
08-12-2005, 03:55 PM
Johnny Steps for the original and for GX i didnt like SAL or that kid with the moke moke.

99TourGuides
08-12-2005, 04:10 PM
I was wondering in the SAL episode, why couldn't Junko just climb down from the tree?

Dragonic
08-12-2005, 04:43 PM
DM

Best

Yami Bakura, Valon.

wORST
Duno Really, Maybe Jonny Steps

GX
Best
Manjyome=Oh yes, Fave Charachter with his Many decks and the Ojama Trio
Judai= Gotta love the Kids Luck

Worst=
SAL, Without a doubt he is the Worst

~Linked~
08-12-2005, 04:45 PM
DM

Best

Yami Bakura, Valon.

wORST
Duno Really, Maybe Jonny Steps

GX
Best
Manjyome=Oh yes, Fave Charachter with his Many decks and the Ojama Trio
Judai= Gotta love the Kids Luck

Worst=
SAL, Without a doubt he is the Worst

Judai, Manjoume, and Yami Bakura are not filler characters.

Dragonic
08-12-2005, 04:51 PM
Judai, Manjoume, and Yami Bakura are not filler characters.

sorry i misread the title i thought it meant overall best and worst

my bad im really tired

Asuka Tenjoin
08-12-2005, 04:53 PM
DM:

Best:
Rebecca Hopkins - She's one of the only filler characters I don't actually think of as a filler character... to me, Rebecca is part of the main cast and I was kind of upset she didn't get to come along for the Ceremonial Battle considering everything else about it they changed. She's smart, she's funny, she's one of the best duelists in DM, and her relationship with her Yugi darling is absolutely adorable!

Noah Kaiba - I really liked his deck and the homage to the original series Kaiba was pretty cool... I felt bad for him too, since he was basically nothing but a ghost and his deck even started to reflect that at the end when he started playing Spirits instead of playing God-oriented stuff.

Worst:
Leon Wilson - I wanted to like Leon at first. I really did. He was a cute kid, his crush on Tea was funny, and he was likable enough at first. Then he dueled. Not only did he defeat Rebecca with the most ridiculous topdeck EVER, but his deck was one of the worst in the entire series. I don't even mean because they were Fairy Tale creatures, they had some pretty funny designs... but the actual effects and cards themselves were like completely awful, especially in his second duel where he started playing like 500 attack peasants with awful effects. His duels were a total waste of time.

GX:

Best:
Mogi - MOKEY MOKEY! MOKEY MOKEY! MOKEEEEY MOKEEEEEY! :D

Worst:
Taizan - I honestly don't think anything needs to be said on this subject. Both as a character and a duelist he was just... awful...

~Linked~
08-12-2005, 05:17 PM
C'mon Leon was cool. Using all those crazy cards and such...

Allright he was annoying but one of your favorites is Mogi... I just wanted to punch him.

MetallicPyreal
08-12-2005, 05:26 PM
DM - Best

Raphael, because he uses Guardians.

Varon, because he's awesome.

Rebecca. Cute, smart, and an awesome deck!

DM - Worst

Johnny Steps for being a loser.

Magnum for being annoying and trying to cheat after losing the duel.

GX - Best

Rei - Cute and a cool deck to boot. One of the best filler eps ever.

Kunisaki - He was a good character! Just because he didn't duel doesn't mean squat!

Motegi Mokeo - He had such a cool attitude! Although his powers were freaky and a bit creepy...

GX - Worst

Ohara/Kohara - Boring...boring...BORING!

Taizan - I liked his character, but it was just so far-fetched that he learned to "topdeck anything he wants" by living in the wild. I thought that was really stupid.

The guy in the Vampire Lord suit from the Cosplay Duel episode...for having a lame costume. :D

kaze950
08-12-2005, 06:40 PM
Best - NOA KAIBA or Raphael

Worst - That guy in duelist kingdom who said he was Kaiba's "evil" or w/e. In the manga it was just a damn ventriliquist, who looked NOTHING like that fat, ugly, freak.

Lil' Yugi
08-12-2005, 06:55 PM
DM

Best

Rebecca, she was in the pre BC fillers that I love so much, and she showed off her skills with the best deck in YGO during my favorite arc. KCGP

Siegfreid von Shroider(SP?). His valkries were cool and his deck actually eploited the RFG strategy. He wasn't even phased when CED's effect struck him down. Oh and, OMG!!! TEH PINKNESSS!!!

Grimo, Dun know why I just do.

Dartz, I used to hate him but he is growing on me....Still hate DOMA though

Leon. Anyone who gets exited from seeing Black Magician(Girl) come into play is kick ass.

Black Magician Girl(DOMA) Their are a few cool DOMA characters, and she was one of them...

Worst

Rapheal. I hate that guy, with his ubber broken guardians that RFG and power upp his monster, or ones that can't be destroyed by ANYTHING!!!

The guy beats the nameless pharoah and everyone(fans not anime characters) talk about how cool he is, and how much skill he has.

GX

Best

Motegi, he so laid back and everyone feared him, or got all dizzy and looked/sounded like they just had some Jesus juice XD

Kagurazaka. He used Yugi's deck, and did well with it!!! :eek:

Kaibaman. Blue Eyes White/Ultimate dragon!!! Triple BEWD OTK!!! Kaibaness!

Worst

Taizan, he was such a st00pid character. The guy topdeck worse than the main characters. He also had a dorky haircut to...


Steps, Shocker, and S.A.L were kewl IMO...

~Linked~
08-12-2005, 07:08 PM
Best - NOA KAIBA or Raphael

Worst - That guy in duelist kingdom who said he was Kaiba's "evil" or w/e. In the manga it was just a damn ventriliquist, who looked NOTHING like that fat, ugly, freak.

Yeah he was bad. I was like wtf? when I saw him.

99TourGuides
08-12-2005, 07:11 PM
Yeah he was bad. I was like wtf? when I saw him.

I nearly barfed when I saw him.

Horoko
08-12-2005, 08:46 PM
Death Imatator was cool. A big, fat, pink clown with a cloak! Who wouldn't like that?

Lil' Yugi
08-12-2005, 08:54 PM
I thought he was.

In that skinny Kaiba costume, and when he ripped it off his stomach just plopped out.

I was all WTF how did he fit in that thing?

XDDDDDDDD

Warakia
08-12-2005, 10:02 PM
Death Imatator was cool. A big, fat, pink clown with a cloak! Who wouldn't like that?

Not too mention his laugh in nthe original version was just damned creepy as well.

I liked the Ventrilaquist a LOT better though.

Evil dolls are hot.


IMO, ALL FILLERS SUCK!

So there are no good filler characters. :D

Horoko
08-12-2005, 10:40 PM
IMO, ALL FILLERS SUCK!

So there are no good filler characters.
Technically, he's not a filler character. He is a replacement character already for onr there in the original manga's story.

Warakia
08-12-2005, 11:01 PM
Technically, he's not a filler character. He is a replacement character already for onr there in the original manga's story.

But why replace Death Ventrilaquist, he was a very cool character.


It's changes like this that make me like the manga better than the anime.

Horoko
08-12-2005, 11:06 PM
But why replace Death Ventrilaquist, he was a very cool character.


It's changes like this that make me like the manga better than the anime.
Probably because they would kind of have no reason to do so. In the anime, Kaiba didn't go into a coma, he was Mind Crushed and recovered, so his soul couldn't possibly be in the puppet.

It could also be because Mokuba had the key card as well (not an actual key.)

And that Kaiba was seen plummeting to his doom instead of being in a coma.

Many reasons. Animes aren't 100 percent accurate to their manga counterparts. Especially YGO (Since the first try was a big turd and the second try had to recreate Death-T and etc.)

kaze950
08-12-2005, 11:57 PM
one question - did they show Death-T in the anime (the first 27 episodes, before DM)? Or did they just make the 1st episode into a 'Death T remake'?

Horoko
08-13-2005, 12:16 AM
The Toei made one? Yeah, they had Death-T.

TheMuffinOfGood
08-13-2005, 12:33 AM
It's changes like this that make me like the manga better than the anime.


The ventrilequist was cool.....But there are just some things in the anime that improve over the manga.

I'am not going to go into tons of examples (cause there aren't many) and yes overall the original is always better than the remake...... sorta (if you consider manga to anime that way)

But take the duel boxes for instance. How does summoning holgrams in those little boxes make more sense than on those big projecter fields?

Its just little things like that makes the anime ALMOST as good as the manga.

Without all that filler crap. I have to agree with you on that one

I Love Manzuri
08-13-2005, 12:34 AM
Johnny Steps for the original and for GX i didnt like SAL or that kid with the moke moke.

Motegi. Motegi is a cool name. Yeha, he wasn't very important, but Motegi just has that cool ring to it.

Anyways...

DM:

Best: Rebecca and Otogi. Rebecca looks alot like my best friend (if my friend were 9, that is). Otogi's just a huge pimp, like me :D . He's got fashion sense like Ameruda, and, he's just cool. Dice are awesome. All the pimps have furry dice hangin from their rear-view mirror.

Worst: Espa Roba. Yes, I know, he was part of the manga, but, he's filler in the sense that he's there to give Jounouchi his locator cards and Android Psycho Shocker. The reason I hate this cracker is simply because, well, he's just another one of those lame characters they create without much thought (think Hayato, Misawa, etc). Kajiki, Haga, Ryusaki, they are used several times in both manga and anime. Espa is not. Know why? He isn't important. What does he fight for? "If I win this tournament, my brothers won't get their arses kicked for being ugly green-haired eevesdropping brats." Wow, really noble. They'd still get their butts beaten to a pulp, and maybe even moreso. I don't recall him ever needing to find courage within himself, as in, he was timid much like Shou. He was just dueling for his brothers' sake, but rather, in a foolish manner.

And, to all those who say Johnny Steps sucked, you're probably not a DDR player. I loved the guy. He's a black DDR player who entered in a freestyle tournament. Seriously, nothin's cooler than that, cept, maybe, an Asian female entering a DDR freestyle tournament.

Oh, whoops...

GX:

Best: Paradox duh. They were summoned all the way from an island likely near California just to try beatin ol Juudai. They still used an old fav; GG, while using newer support. Also, Anacis, because he basically had Juudai locked the entire game. You know, when he lost, he had 1 card in his hand. How much you wanna bet it was Legendary City Atlantis or Earthforming? He had Juudai on his knees the whole while, and got him down to 100.

Worst: Super Animal Rearning Ultimate! Seriously, who did like this joke? I mean, it literally served no purpose. It allowed Juudai to use 1 new card that he hasn't ever used since. I could've watched the duel all in one dump.

Also Tizan. I didn't even get to see the duel, but, I'm glad I didn't. No new cards on Juudai's part, and, a guy who uses a deck around drawing. Wow.

Horoko
08-13-2005, 12:37 AM
Super Animal Rearning Ultimate! Seriously, who did like this joke? I mean, it literally served no purpose. It allowed Juudai to use 1 new card that he hasn't ever used since. I could've watched the duel all in one dump.
Ooooo! I did! I liked it!

Munkeys rock! XD

I Love Manzuri
08-13-2005, 12:44 AM
Ooooo! I did! I liked it!

Munkeys rock! XD

Monkeys DO rock (think cyber ape), but, not when they make me want to purge my bowels all over my monitor.

Snodin
08-13-2005, 12:48 AM
Okay, back to subject...


Best Filler Characters:

Rebecca Hawkins. Yeah, cute little girl, kickass jewel dragons, and had the guts to go up against the baddies in DOMA, no matter how tough they looked. Rock on, girl.

Mako Tsunami. So... did he ever find his Dad? Oh and yeah, he plays a Water deck! :D

Raphael. Love him or hate him, he's interesting. The passion he has for his monsters is one in a million, and when he got all pissed at Dartz that one time it was priceless.

The girl who duels Rebecca in KGGP. Haven't seen her yet, but I like her already because she's a girl, and she duels. Enough said.

Tanyia. First of all, she turned into a tiger, okay?? That alone is awesome!!! But the fact that she used an all-Amazon deck was cool too, 'cause Amazons are so under-rated in this game.


Worst Filler Characters:

Duke Devlin. Okay, so Dungeon Dice Monsters was pretty cool and his character development there was the best, but from that point on he just seemed like a fifth wheel (when Tristan is already the fifth wheel, not being able to duel and all), and although it was cool to see him play with an actual deck in DOMA, his skills didn't seem to improve that much. He should just stick with the dice.

Rex and Weevil. I know they have their fans and their decks have been pretty cool at times... but after a few times you get sucked in by the Orichalcos, when do you start thinking, "Hmm, maybe I should just stick this one out and let Yugi deal with this?" By the end of that story, they just took up space.

Bandit Keith. I just hate him... The way he cheated and stole to get to Pegasus just really burned me. Though I kinda liked that Marik had his way with him. Heh-heh, how's it feel to be a puppet, Keith? Oh, stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!

Tea Gardner. Oh yeah, she's not a filler... I almost wish she was.


Mixed Feelings:

Johnny Steps. Okay, so he had only one episode and he's basically a coward for trying to skip out of the duel, but his deck was pretty interesting. When's the last time you saw a music-themed deck? Okay, never? I thought it was unique. The only really lame part when when Tea started to doubt that Yugi would win. HELLO! When's the last time you saw him lose, Tea?

Noah Kaiba. The little punk really irritated me for a while, ESPECIALLY his voice, and his storyline was really lame and ripped-off by something... But his deck was pretty cool. I just wished he could have played Yata when he had the chance. I'm sure if he ever broke free from the virtual world (oh yeah, now I remember where I saw that- The Matrix!), he'd probably kick some ass.

Carmilla. Her deck was awesome, and her evilness was even more awesome... but someone tell me why a vampire is wasting her time playing a card game!!?? Sure, I realize she was going to use those dolls to bring back her kin, but it still felt like a longshot.

The Submarine Guy. Gah, why can't I remember his name? Anyway, this guy annoyed me a little, especially with the loud speaker. But he played Leviadragon......... What more can I say? Oh, and his duel disk? I want it.

Chibi Xellos
08-13-2005, 12:54 AM
Snodin, some of the characters you mentioned weren't filler.

Now, I don't know if it's because the character themselves are lame or the way they Dueled, but here goes.

Duel Monsters

Best- Noah, Raphael and Dartz

Worst- Johnny, Big 5, Jean Claude Magnum... I think that's all. Oh yeah, that dude with Injection Fairy Lily in the movie. Also, the guy in Doma that used Obelisk against Atem.

Gx

Best- Black Magician Girl (Even though the episode wasn't all that cool.), Rei, Kaibaman, Kagurazaka, and that should be all.

Worst- Sal (Definitely), Motegi, Kohara/Ohara, and Taizan.

Horoko
08-13-2005, 12:54 AM
Carmilla. Her deck was awesome, and her evilness was even more awesome... but someone tell me why a vampire is wasting her time playing a card game!!?? Sure, I realize she was going to use those dolls to bring back her kin, but it still felt like a longshot.
With things a tiger turning human playing a card game, and a 10,000 year old Atlantian king playing a card game, THAT surprises you?

Monkeys DO rock (think cyber ape), but, not when they make me want to purge my bowels all over my monitor.
*Shrugs* I thought the munkey was funny.

Snodin
08-13-2005, 12:55 AM
Touche...

OH! I forgot about Kaibaman. How did I forget?? He's on my Best list too. ^___^

Asuka Tenjoin
08-13-2005, 01:24 AM
Best: Rebecca and Otogi. Rebecca looks alot like my best friend (if my friend were 9, that is). Otogi's just a huge pimp, like me :D . He's got fashion sense like Ameruda, and, he's just cool. Dice are awesome. All the pimps have furry dice hangin from their rear-view mirror.

That dub edit has always bothered me so much. Rebecca was 12, not 8... She's about 13 in Doma, only three years behind Yugi. The dub edit sucked because it makes the Yugi/Rebecca relationship a kiddy's joke when I thought it was cute as an actual potential one. :(

I Love Manzuri
08-13-2005, 01:36 AM
That dub edit has always bothered me so much. Rebecca was 12, not 8... She's about 13 in Doma, only three years behind Yugi. The dub edit sucked because it makes the Yugi/Rebecca relationship a kiddy's joke when I thought it was cute as an actual potential one. :(

Yes, I know.

She's a kid. Under 18 = no sex = no fair.

Asuka Tenjoin
08-13-2005, 02:02 AM
I just thought they were a cute couple. :p

I wish she'd appear in GX, I want to see if she ended up with him. :D

johnnyd2
08-13-2005, 06:28 AM
Well on someones opinons. Mako, Rex, Weevil, and Duke/Otogi are NOT filler characters cause they appear in the manga AND anime more than once, thats my opinion though and i havent read the manga version of BC so im not sure if Otogi stays around with the crew like in the anime.

InfamousJ
08-13-2005, 10:11 AM
IMO:

Best:
DM:

Rebecca - do I really need to give a reason? This girl kicks ass!

Big 1 - I can't help it, he was just owning Yugi so bad for the majority of that duel.

GX:

Mokeo - !!!!!!!

Worst:
DM:

Meh, Johnny Steps was alright, so I'm going with a toss up between the rest of the Big 5 and that Panic duelist guy. They're all tools.

GX:

Another tough choice. SAL and Taizan did stink, but I think Chousaku was the worst. I mean comeon, he got schooled by a deck full of 0 atk monsters (no disrespect, I love that deck).

rampage77
08-14-2005, 12:29 PM
DM

Best: Otogi
Worst: Johnny Steps

Black Paladin
08-14-2005, 03:30 PM
I think Jonny Stepps takes the cake for worst filler character.

Lil' Yugi
08-14-2005, 04:22 PM
Ah come on Johnny was cool.


Does Anubis count as filler? If so he sucked, and so did those demonish guys in black that followed Bakura around in the Memory World.

TheRockBoS
08-14-2005, 05:40 PM
Original best: Rebecca

Original worst: a lot of them?

GX best: Kagurazaka

GX worst: Tizan....ugh...

rampage77
08-15-2005, 05:45 PM
I think Jonny Stepps takes the cake for worst filler character.

Yeah, I think we can assume that. :p

myth buster
08-16-2005, 09:55 PM
I just thought they were a cute couple. :p

I wish she'd appear in GX, I want to see if she ended up with him. :D
I seriously doubt they'd end up together. Yugi doesn't seem to have feelings for Rebecca at all, save for as a friend. Nothing that would miror the crush she has on him. But you do have a point about DM characters returning in GX with backstories. They simply don't tell us what happened to any of the characters after the Cerimonial Duel. They could even make a completely new series out of what happens to the DM characters after Atem leaves. It's timeline could run along side GX or come after it.

marhawkman
08-20-2005, 08:20 AM
I seriously doubt they'd end up together. Yugi doesn't seem to have feelings for Rebecca at all, save for as a friend. Nothing that would miror the crush she has on him. But you do have a point about DM characters returning in GX with backstories. They simply don't tell us what happened to any of the characters after the Cerimonial Duel. They could even make a completely new series out of what happens to the DM characters after Atem leaves. It's timeline could run along side GX or come after it.wait a few years, He really isn't quite old enough for that sort of thing yet. Fast forward 5-10 years and things change drastically.... I'm kinda wondering what Tea/Anzu did.

CBASS
08-21-2005, 03:02 AM
Best:Duke/Raphael (can't decide)
Worst: Anubis/Johney Steps (can't decide again)

MetallicPyreal
08-22-2005, 03:46 PM
Good grief, I'm watching GX36 right now, I'm only halfway into it, and I cannot STAND Taniya! I have a feeling she's gonna be one of my least favorite characters...