Green Day

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

There were a few GD topics which got moved to the archives.

You can start one if you want, but discussing music on the boards is risky. Lots of people can't help themselves.

And the link as to the post http://pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=186147

Well there is proff and all I was approved to make an offical topic, so who hear likes green day? I do they are awesomelly kool, whats your fav artist?, and song and such?

Mynes is homecoming and minority I love all of there albums, and well Billlie is my fav out of the whole band. The others well they are kool and all, but Tre's like the crazy one with the insanity and such and such and although he is kool, and well Mike does not do any thing all he does is bass......

[DarkSoulBlade131]

Users CANNOT make Official topics. WW just told you so.

Regular users CAN NEVER START AN OFFICIAL TOPIC.

You can start a "Green Day" topic, but if you put "Official" in the topic name I'll delete it.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Users CANNOT make Official topics. WW just told you so.

Ooops lol well now its back, to regular, well what do you think of green day come on people lets hear from you....

[DarkSoulBlade131]

Green Day is OK I guess, people who think their cool because they listen to this "so-called" punk-rock band are stupid. Otherwise, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Holiday, and American Idiot are my favorites from them.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Well thats what ever one says, but in reality its only because those are the only songs they have made there music videos from, if you actually have there albums and or "find music" and listen to all of there songs or the ones random ones you start realizing that they are actually a good band and are not really bad, I use to only like those three also then when I heard the rest of the cd I thought it was awesome.

[J-Head]

I like Green Day, both the old and new. The old songs are awesome, and the new songs are awesome with purpose.
people who think their cool because they listen to this "so-called" punk-rock band are stupid.Emo people that think they're cool becuase they listen to Green Day are indeed stupid.

[xchaos soldierx]

No regular user can make an Official thread. I'm telling u this cuz I've seen u do it before. I only listen to a few Greenday songs. I'm not that big on Rock, but I do enjoy their music.

[TsunamiDuelist465]

this is gonna get locked kinda fast, with the new greenday.

anyway, i like the old stuff, but the new stuff sucks.

....cuz i wanna be a Minority...

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

lol. That was and is the song I have had playing.Well yeah a little it does not suck so much, but its supose to be a story line thats why, if you don't know this then that is most probablly why you do not like there new songs, :eek:

[chimpy2888]

Old Greenday> New Greenday

That said, I really like old greenday, but these days...not so much.

Here's a link that has to do with this topic as well:

http://www.wtue.com/script/headline_newsmanager.php?id=415480&pagecontent=musicnewsrockmain&feed_id=22

Hmmmm......yup.

[Black Paladin]

the only song I like is American Idiot. I tried listening to the older ones, but it didn't really appeal to me

[DarkSoulBlade131]

Well thats what ever one says, but in reality its only because those are the only songs they have made there music videos from, if you actually have there albums and or "find music" and listen to all of there songs or the ones random ones you start realizing that they are actually a good band and are not really bad, I use to only like those three also then when I heard the rest of the cd I thought it was awesome.

I never said they were bad. I was just stating what songs I liked.

[Secret Squirrel]

Here's a link that has to do with this topic as well:

http://www.wtue.com/script/headline_newsmanager.php?id=415480&pagecontent=musicnewsrockmain&feed_id=22

Hmmmm......yup.
I always thought Green Day was considered Alternative? (Alternative punk, yes, but not Punk rock.) I mean.. why don't you just enjoy the music for what it is, and not try bashing it for not fitting into Punk?

I like new Green Day some, but I don't like their image. Did you see their performance at Live 8? I wanted to puke.

I like old Green Day, but I've listened to American Idiot more. It's just easier to listen to. It has good singles and other songs.. (Give me Novocaine, Extraordinary Girl.) Dookie and Nimrod are really good. Glad to hear there's a bunch of people who like Old Green Day here. :)

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Oh okay lol. My mistake. Still why do you like those?

[crazynig1086]

I like all Green Day, old, new, whatever. I think that Green Day is pretty awesome. I dont care how punky, or whatever, all I know is that I like their music.

[[ChaosSwordsman]]

They're my second favorite band, 'American Idiot' and 'Wake me up When September Ends' are my favorite songs by far.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Darn you took my avi idea.....

[Chaos Snake19]

omg!!! I am obsessed with green day. I like holiday, boulevard of broken dreams and american idiot.


THEYRE AWESOME

[Alley Cat]

Green Day = YAYNESS!

I love all of their songs, especially Holiday.

The thing is, some radio stations take out that whole "The representatives from California have the floor" part. I hate it. It takes away from the whole purpose of the song.

It really sucks because the radio station take away from the artists. I dunno if it's for sir time or against America...it still sucks.

[thenextsuperhero]

old green day is awesome, american idiot is okay though. Not my favorite band though.

[Redshift]

I love them, but I really don’t like how two of their songs are actually like five songs all on one track, because I sometimes want to hear the later parts without going through everything first. Anyway, I like Holiday and Letterbomb the best.

[DarkSoulBlade131]

I was watching TV and there was a comercial on Kidz Bop 8 or something. Where kids sing popular songs.

Boulevard of Broken Dreams was one of them, and I was wondering if they really sing the " What's F'd up" part.

[Hazen]

I was watching TV and there was a comercial on Kidz Bop 8 or something. Where kids sing popular songs.

Boulevard of Broken Dreams was one of them, and I was wondering if they really sing the " What's F'd up" part.

i would never EVER allow someone to do that to my music.

I love greenday. Old greenday. this new greenday...with the people that are like "OMG i love greenday, i have thier album!" and don't even know they have more, it sickens me. I almost wish greenday hadn't had it recent sucess. Thier singles are so overplayed it is disgusting.

BTW i have every greenday CD except for 'Kerplunk', (which is thier first CD) this is including the rare 'Oh what a Greenday!' live album.

[Mr.X]

Greenday is ok I guess, my favourite is boulevard of broken dreams

[TsunamiDuelist465]

i dont like what Greenday has become.

i might be really stereotypical, here, so bear with me.

me and my buddies make up our band, Welcome Oblivion. anyway, we had a discussion during a session once, about what we want our band to be, and we stumbled on what Green Day has become.

originally, back in the days of Nimrod, Insomiac, and Dookie, Greenday was a punk rock band, a band based upon WANTING to be a Minority, and living life without Warning. about the days of being bored or masturbating, and having nothing to do. the average life of a punk.

well, that was about a decade ago, back when people wanted rock/punk.

times, since 10 years ago, have changed. as time changed, so did Greendays thoughts. they went from not caring about anything, to how life seems to be for a majority, dark/gothy.

Greenday then turned out American Idiot, which was more or less a song insulting George Bush, which was never really Greendays way. American Idiot sucked in tons of people, Preps, Adults, and sadly, the old Punk rockers, who used to love greenday, the punk rockers, who under the influence of other music, life problems, and insecurities, have turned goth.

Tons of people bought American Idiot, and since curiousity is the spice of life, they stumble upon the other song, Boulavard Of Broken Dreams. This song is more or less a song about being sad, and in a way, goth.

This song, is what changed the, well, face of music for some. Preps would scream the lyrics of this song, because it "describes how they feel", and goths would think the very same.

at about this exact time, other bands got the same idea, and popping up like pimples on a teenagers head, more of the same thing came.

with depressed songs, such as "cut my wrists and black my eyes" or "cute without the e" the fans of boulavard swirled down the drain to this form of music.

i honestly think music is a major role in life, what you listen to can effect emotions, and give you, in a form, thoughts of what to do. after boulavard, i noticed tons more kids are experiancing issues in life. i dont believe this is true, however. i think the music believes them to tihnk that. sad music = sad emotions, upbeat music = happy emotions, simple as that.

of course, this isnt what happened to everyone. i myself listen to many types of music, none sad, and am overall a happy person. i loved Greenday, because their feelings and lyrics were so, normal. me and my girlfriend both listen to old greenday, as i explore into the world of techno.

-throws 2 pennies into a cup- theres my 2 cents

ps- holiday sucks

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

i would never EVER allow someone to do that to my music.

I love greenday. Old greenday. this new greenday...with the people that are like "OMG i love greenday, i have thier album!" and don't even know they have more, it sickens me. I almost wish greenday hadn't had it recent sucess. Thier singles are so overplayed it is disgusting.

BTW i have every greenday CD except for 'Kerplunk', (which is thier first CD) this is including the rare 'Oh what a Greenday!' live album.

Do you have shennanigans and or 1000 smothed out slappy hours? ;), Well no every one hates american idiot because they thought and got the wrong idea aboiut it. Its actually a biography of the life of Jesus, who becomes st.jimmy then fakes his death then becomes jesus and he had a gf (whats her name and so on and so fourth) Also The only songs that do not in under any circumstances contribute to the story line/plot is whats her name, and american idiot. As to TsunamiDuelist465 dude I am a fan of green day and I am srry to tell you, but you must know about the album before you just sump it over. In other words look at the whole album, listen to the lyrics match the story line then if you don't like it then you may give up on it. Srry if you take it as a flame I was not in any wya intending to make it a flame.

[TsunamiDuelist465]

oh, i wasnt talking about the WHOLE greenday, i was talking about the like, chart-toping songs, but even then, my paragraph stands on its own legs

[DarkSoulBlade131]

I agree with TsunamiDuelist.

Music does influence my life. Depending on my mood I listen toa variety of songs and bands. I watched an E' special on Green Day and I learned a lot from that. Green Day was actually shunned by the original club they played at because they turned away from the punk attitude.

[TsunamiDuelist465]

id boo at them too, cuz theyre not who they used to be.

theyre all like, 40 years old, first off, and they make bad music now, no wonder theyre shunned

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Hey don't forget bands always change and such. Plus to still be in the buiseness after about 10 cds that where all awesome O.o. PLus the new cd after shenanigans was american idiot was actually a story line. So yeah.

[Yami Marik]

i dont like what Greenday has become.

i might be really stereotypical, here, so bear with me.

me and my buddies make up our band, Welcome Oblivion. anyway, we had a discussion during a session once, about what we want our band to be, and we stumbled on what Green Day has become.

originally, back in the days of Nimrod, Insomiac, and Dookie, Greenday was a punk rock band, a band based upon WANTING to be a Minority, and living life without Warning. about the days of being bored or masturbating, and having nothing to do. the average life of a punk.

well, that was about a decade ago, back when people wanted rock/punk.

times, since 10 years ago, have changed. as time changed, so did Greendays thoughts. they went from not caring about anything, to how life seems to be for a majority, dark/gothy.

Greenday then turned out American Idiot, which was more or less a song insulting George Bush, which was never really Greendays way. American Idiot sucked in tons of people, Preps, Adults, and sadly, the old Punk rockers, who used to love greenday, the punk rockers, who under the influence of other music, life problems, and insecurities, have turned goth.

Tons of people bought American Idiot, and since curiousity is the spice of life, they stumble upon the other song, Boulavard Of Broken Dreams. This song is more or less a song about being sad, and in a way, goth.

This song, is what changed the, well, face of music for some. Preps would scream the lyrics of this song, because it "describes how they feel", and goths would think the very same.

at about this exact time, other bands got the same idea, and popping up like pimples on a teenagers head, more of the same thing came.

with depressed songs, such as "cut my wrists and black my eyes" or "cute without the e" the fans of boulavard swirled down the drain to this form of music.

i honestly think music is a major role in life, what you listen to can effect emotions, and give you, in a form, thoughts of what to do. after boulavard, i noticed tons more kids are experiancing issues in life. i dont believe this is true, however. i think the music believes them to tihnk that. sad music = sad emotions, upbeat music = happy emotions, simple as that.

of course, this isnt what happened to everyone. i myself listen to many types of music, none sad, and am overall a happy person. i loved Greenday, because their feelings and lyrics were so, normal. me and my girlfriend both listen to old greenday, as i explore into the world of techno.

-throws 2 pennies into a cup- theres my 2 cents

ps- holiday sucks

Dude, i have never read anything that was more right, green day used to be my favorite band back in the 90's but now i just plain don't like em

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

You guys hate freen day now O.o. Man what the hell? The only difrence now is that they made a story line album. Whats the problem in that? So what if they made some diffrent songs? Huh dude its not always easy doing the same music type all the time some times you need change........

[TribeAttack]

Underoath > Green Day

[Jesusisdaman]

And the link as to the post http://pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=186147

Well there is proff and all I was approved to make an offical topic, so who hear likes green day? I do they are awesomelly kool, whats your fav artist?, and song and such?

Mynes is homecoming and minority I love all of there albums, and well Billlie is my fav out of the whole band. The others well they are kool and all, but Tre's like the crazy one with the insanity and such and such and although he is kool, and well Mike does not do any thing all he does is bass......

Green Day is such a good Band !

[TsunamiDuelist465]

You guys hate freen day now O.o. Man what the hell? The only difrence now is that they made a story line album. Whats the problem in that? So what if they made some diffrent songs? Huh dude its not always easy doing the same music type all the time some times you need change........

we understnad taht, but when you change from punk to gothy/emo, thats not cool.

greenday is known for how i stated, and noone liked change in music, especially with bands who were TONS of peoples favorites in the 90's

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Oh come on dude you know how mmany bands have already done that, all of the bands have those kinds of song. My point is look if you don't like the new green day then I am srry I still love all of green days song they are awesome! Okay I am one of the few people that I have seen that likes all rock and does not really care what every one else thinks up to date there has only been one rock song I did not like all others I have liked,

[TsunamiDuelist465]

then why are we argueing...? XDD

usually, when a band changes, its for the worse, cuz its different.

Blink 182 did this, and now theyre dead to 98% of people.
Beastie Boys did this, and theyre dead to 98% of people
Good Charlotte did this, and they were dead from the beginning.

change is never a good thing in the music world.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

LOL. Still,

Rock is good I like it all exept for one song. So yeah lets not argue any where its not gonna lead any where good.

[MyOwnImij]

It seem as though they have just grown up. It would seem weird to have a group of thirty somethings still singin about the same teenage angst and masturbation like they used to. I prefer their latest album to the last 4 by far (minus a few songs), and Kerplunk is still probably their best "PUNK" album. This latest album just seems a little more mature than peopl are used to from a "punk band." I bet many of their fans have matured as well, and will still enjoy the music that they have put out on this album. They didn't change so much as evolved and matured...IMO

Tsunami, it was change that made the Beastie Boys into a near household name.

[DarkSoulBlade131]

As I said before, I agree with TsunamiDuelist yet again.

When people fall in love with a band, they fall in love of what the band is at that time. They expect that band to be the same one they loved even though time passes. IMO Green Day's transition was horrid. That's why I fell out of love with them.

[CBASS]

Ok, I could easly get this topic locked but I'm kool so I wont lol, but I'll still say what I am gonna say lol. The new Green Day is can be summerized in one 2 words- sudopolitical posers. They used to be so friggin awesome back before American Idiot. Their songs did not all have the undertones of "the president is a bad man, lets all jump on the bandwagon of this whole anti bush thing" They also contridict themselves in their lyrics now.

"I don't wanna be an american idiot, one nation controled by the media"

What a load of Bull! If they are so concerned with getting people to stand by them selves with no media influence thewy should shut their hypocritical mouths due to the fact THEY ARE THE GOD DANG MEDIA! I miss the old Green Day, hell my 1st ever peice of music I ever ecived from anyone was A Cassette Tape Of Dookie. I litsened toi that al the time years ago. Then I heard Green Day had a new CD and I was all " HELL YEAH!!" Then my friend got it, we litsened to it, I immediatly told everyone exactly what I thought of it, my friend has only recently seen what I meant. I hope everyone undertands what I mean! They should really jump off this mainstream crap, when did anti-political become mainstream anyway. And they were never punk so no one better say they were! :cool:

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

God man why do you dislike them all bands stand for some thing and yes they where and are punk, but now they are a little gothic. Still I don't find a problem with either in fact I am a rocker. So yeah I still like them regaurdless of what the massess say if you like some thing then you like it you don't. Posers are people who do what the massess do and or think because they don't want to be part of the minority. I don't care if I like some thing then I won't be ashamed to tell people I like it. What the hell. Also green day only made two songs against bush american idiot and favorite son... The rest of the album was about the life of the Jesus of suberbia. (all exept for wake me up when september ends which was writen by billie because his dad died of cancer when he was ten).

[Redshift]

we understnad taht, but when you change from punk to gothy/emo, thats not cool.Of course it is. And they didn’t really change in that regard; Green Day is still far from Emo.

[.:EveningPlague:.]

God man why do you dislike them all bands stand for some thing and yes they where and are punk, but now they are a little gothic. Still I don't find a problem with either in fact I am a rocker. So yeah I still like them regaurdless of what the massess say if you like some thing then you like it you don't. Posers are people who do what the massess do and or think because they don't want to be part of the minority. I don't care if I like some thing then I won't be ashamed to tell people I like it. What the hell. Also green day only made two songs against bush american idiot and favorite son... The rest of the album was about the life of the Jesus of suberbia. (all exept for wake me up when september ends which was writen by billie because his dad died of cancer when he was ten).
XD!!!!
They're not gothic they just headed over to the "pop-rock" section, every band does something different once in awhile.

[DarkSoulBlade131]

God man why do you dislike them all bands stand for some thing and yes they where and are punk, but now they are a little gothic. Still I don't find a problem with either in fact I am a rocker. So yeah I still like them regaurdless of what the massess say if you like some thing then you like it you don't. Posers are people who do what the massess do and or think because they don't want to be part of the minority. I don't care if I like some thing then I won't be ashamed to tell people I like it. What the hell. Also green day only made two songs against bush american idiot and favorite son... The rest of the album was about the life of the Jesus of suberbia. (all exept for wake me up when september ends which was writen by billie because his dad died of cancer when he was ten).

We don't dislike the actual band, we dislike what they stand for. This isn't the matter of issue being punk or gothic or whatever. And calm down. We're not bashing or trying to start some kind of revolution here. We're just giving our honest opinion.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Alright what ever. I guess so any one want to talka bout green day new and or recent?

[DarkSoulBlade131]

Has anyone seen the comercial about the downloading free songs thing? With
the "I fought the law, and the law won." song? Where can i find that song like on which album or if it even exists?

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Nope I don't know.. :mad:

[TsunamiDuelist465]

thats I Fought The Law. it was originally made by some band thats name slipped me, and the famous version is made by the Clash. im pretty sure it was released as a promotional, so you wont be able to buy it.

though i dont suggest it, you can attempt to "obtain" it, if you wish to break the law

[CBASS]

XD!!!!
They're not gothic they just headed over to the "pop-rock" section, every band does something different once in awhile.


Ummmmmm, exactly and I am speaking in a buisness and opinionated type matter here in saying that since Green Day has moved into that accursed genre they have lost a loyal fanbase of true blue green day fans from the old days and picked up a bunch of sudoanti-nazis. I am sure that if they stuck to their old stuff sales for American Idiot would not of been so wasted on these little puds that 90% of them say they are anarchists or Bush haters but have no idea what any of the issues are or what they are really standing for. Tis a shame really. To think just how great they were and got reduced to being mentioned on Nickolodeon and Disney inbetween commercial breaks and put on their brain mashing CD's. My God is this world sickening me by the second! Green Day has failed be this once, maybe they will be better next album around. They are almost as dreadful as Good Charlotte (it don't get any more annoying then that, give me some Deicide and I am good)!!!

[goldenjinzo30]

I hate green day. They're so annoying.

[twist 4 twenty]

i luv shes a rebel and st jimmy

[Absol]

Time of your life is a good song. I like playing it on my guitar.

[TsunamiDuelist465]

i bought international superhits and warning... internation superhits might be one of the best CDs ive ever bought.

its got all of Greendays chart toppers, and tons of favorites, i suggest buying it.--- wait, no, i DEMAND you to buy it, for its the best greenday CD.

[Black Paladin]

I only have St. immy, She's A Rebel, and American Idiot on my iPod. I got so sick of hearing Boulevard of broken dreams on the radio.

[Secret Squirrel]

i bought international superhits and warning... internation superhits might be one of the best CDs ive ever bought.

its got all of Greendays chart toppers, and tons of favorites, i suggest buying it.--- wait, no, i DEMAND you to buy it, for its the best greenday CD.
Yeah that's CD's pretty good. It's got GD's best songs and doesn't have any of their overplayed singles from American Idiot.

Can't stand American Idiot, Blvd of Broken Dreams and Holiday anymore.

[NLightmare]

They were OK before.

Then they became Neo-Goths. (Not Goths, those were in ancient times!) I hate Goths, personally. If you so inquire why, just send me an IM. Of course, you could just tell me:

"Oh my GOSH! You're a Weezer Fan! My gosh, they suck!"

I won't deny it. I like Weezer.

[sixersballernum3]

I agree. I have most of my friend's old Green Day CDs, like Dookie, Kerplunk, 1039 and the like. But I still bought Superhits. It's all the wonderfulness on one nice little CD.

And I can play it freely when I'm working on something outside without all the little preppy girls shouting "OMG IT'S GREEN DAY! I WALK A LONELY ROOOOAD!!!! I ONLY ONE THAT I HAVE EVER ROAD! DON'T KNOW IF IT ROADS, BUT IT'S ONLY ME AND I WALK A ROAD!".

Oh, and it's called Good Riddance, not Time of your life. ;)

[TheOneSin]

Do you have shennanigans and or 1000 smothed out slappy hours? ;), Well no every one hates american idiot because they thought and got the wrong idea aboiut it. Its actually a biography of the life of Jesus, who becomes st.jimmy then fakes his death then becomes jesus and he had a gf (whats her name and so on and so fourth) Also The only songs that do not in under any circumstances contribute to the story line/plot is whats her name, and american idiot. As to TsunamiDuelist465 dude I am a fan of green day and I am srry to tell you, but you must know about the album before you just sump it over. In other words look at the whole album, listen to the lyrics match the story line then if you don't like it then you may give up on it. Srry if you take it as a flame I was not in any wya intending to make it a flame.


First, I'm with you all the way on liking Green Day for who they were and who they are.

Second, Whatser name and American Idiot actually do add to the story. I actually went through one day and really analyzed the lyircs to get the whole story.

you see:

-American Idiot: Intro to the story/ Showing main charater's (Jesus of Suburbia) life from home (i.e. with his friends and how he views things in life).
-Jesus of Suburbia (full nine minutes): Talks about his social life, his home life, his uncertainty of living, consideration of leaving his life behind, and his actual leaving.
-Holiday: the party and euphoria that comes from that first adrenaline rush of being on your own and doing whatever you want.
-Blvd. of Broken Dreams: the hang over and more uuncertainty of life as it is now that he's left.
-Are We the Waiting: deep inner reflections. Trying to find himself and what he wants.
-St. Jimmy: the introduction of one of the influencial people of his life at the time and how his life seems promising.
-Give Me Novacaine: Dependancy on St. Jimmy, how JoS needs to have what Jimmy has in order to be happy.
-She's a Rebel: Intro of the second most influenctal person and how he likes her independancy from anyone.
-Extraordinary Girl: Soul searching and discovering he is actually falling for Rebel Girl.
-Letterbomb(second favorite song on the album): Exactly what the name says. He recieves a letter from home and it shatters what he believes right now.
-Wake Me Up When September Ends (favorite song on the album): Soul searching and reconsideration.
-Homecoming (all nine minutesand third favorite song on the album): Desicion about what to do with his life after the two most important people in his life right now leave him, and also getting a letter from someone who knows what he's going through, showing what his life is now, after going through the same thing.
-Whatsername:Looking back on his life some time later. He thinks about what became of the Rebel Girl.

Anyone know what is being yelled at the end of Homecoming in the background???

And Cbass, the song is Good Riddance, but its sur name is Time of Your Life.

[heavy arms.]

I like sweet children... :cool:

[TheOneSin]

Umm..SPAM much???

Or is that the answer to my question (which I highly doubt)???

[RachelGrey]

I like Green Day's songs. I actually don't like any band, just songs. I think Billie Joe looks funny with the make up. The American Idiot CD, which I like, is overplayed though.

[DarkSoulBlade131]

Umm..SPAM much???

Or is that the answer to my question (which I highly doubt)???

How is he spamming? Just because you ask something, doesn't mean the next person has to answer it.

[TheOneSin]

I realize DarkSoulBlade, but...

Wait a second...


OH CRAP!!!

I'm soooo sorry heavy arms..I didn't realize you were talking about one of Green Day's songs...I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry!

[Himura363]

I like the older songs of Green Day. The only song on American Idiot I can stand anymore is Holiday, and even that sometimes bugs me. Brain Stew, Warning, and Minority are my favorites. International Superhits was the best $16 I have spent in a long while.

[Lord of the Bling]

I liked Boulevard, but I like the Oasis remix, by dj yamo, better

[Secret Squirrel]

Umm..SPAM much???

Or is that the answer to my question (which I highly doubt)???
Sweet Children IS Green Day. They just changed their name.

[TheOneSin]

I realize that now...I already apologized for it.

[Secret Squirrel]

Oh ok. Either way I clarified. :p

I didn't read your post after I saw I'm sorry pasted a billion times. -.- Plus this thread has reached page 2.

[ChaosSwordsman]

http://www.greendayvideos.com/videos/american_idiot.htm
If anyones interested.

[DarkSoulBlade131]

By the way, did anyone here attend Live 8? I was lucky enough to be in London at the time to see it.

[wearetitens]

Oh ok. Either way I clarified. :p

I didn't read your post after I saw I'm sorry pasted a billion times. -.- Plus this thread has reached page 2.
sweet children is also a song off 'kerplunk" :)

[Secret Squirrel]

By the way, did anyone here attend Live 8? I was lucky enough to be in London at the time to see it.
You got to see Pink Floyd? Man.. I would've loved to be there. I was in Greece at the time.

I'm just stuck watching the AOL videos.

[DarkSoulBlade131]

You got to see Pink Floyd? Man.. I would've loved to be there. I was in Greece at the time.

I'm just stuck watching the AOL videos.

Lol. The whole thing was basically a waste. Previous Live 8 concerts actually raised money, but this one raises "awarness" :p .

A lot of arse holes there bragging about how they got they're tickets from ebay.

[WildWill]

Gee that's funny, since Ebay took DOWN all the Live 8 auctions at Bob Geldof's request.

[DarkSoulBlade131]

Could they have gotten them before they closed them down?

I don't know, I'm just saying what I heard.

[CuttingEdge]

i like their older songs...

[TheOneSin]

Anyone see the new video for "Wake Me Up When September Ends"?

It's my favorite video right now. It's actually like 8 minutes long...it tells a whole story basically. I love the performance shots.


P.s. for those of you lucky enough to have the Fuse channel, there is 12 hours of Green Day on sunday at noon. They're playing all Green Day shows (No.1 Countdown of Green Day, Making of the American Idiot album, making of the american idiot video, making of the Blvd. of Broken Dreams video. Making of the WMUWSE video [holiday too I'm guessing if there is one], Video IQ Green Day, and Live at Irving Plaza)

[Hazen]

Do you have shennanigans and or 1000 smothed out slappy hours?

yeah actually, i bought both of those CDs at the same time.

Did you guys know that Greenday's Original Record Label can't afford to pay the royalties on thier first CDs? because of this the first 2 will no longer be produced. Buy up your copies now!

the names of the CDs are
Kerplunk, and 1039 smoothed out slappy hours. like i said They are greenday's first 2.

[sixersballernum3]

Wasn't 1039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours before Kerplunk?

Or am I mistaken?

[TheOneSin]

I believe you're right.

[Sephiroth5567]

1. The only songs I like are American Idiot, BoBD's, and WMUWSE and Good Riddnace(time of your life).

2. The camp that I go to (Camp Menorah) has Good Riddance(time of your life) on their video. :o

3. What CD is WMUWSE on?

4. Second, Whatser name and American Idiot actually do add to the story. I actually went through one day and really analyzed the lyircs to get the whole story.
-American Idiot: Intro to the story/ Showing main charater's (Jesus of Suburbia) life from home (i.e. with his friends and how he views things in life).
-Jesus of Suburbia (full nine minutes): Talks about his social life, his home life, his uncertainty of living, consideration of leaving his life behind, and his actual leaving.
-Wake Me Up When September Ends (favorite song on the album): Soul searching and reconsideration.

WMUWSE is part of the storyline? :confused:

5. green Day has 2 videos on the VH1 top 20 ct.down. WMUWSE and Holiday!

[TheOneSin]

Wake Me Up When September Ends is on the American Idiot album.

While it differs the most from the storyline, it can still tie in. It's kind of far reaching I know, but to keep the consistency of the Rock Opera I found that to be the the best explination.

[Yugiohmasta17]

Green Day is one of my fave bands besides System of a Down and Nirvana. My favorite album is a tie between Nimrod & American Idiot. Am I the only on that thinks Tre Cool looks kinda wierd?

[MercenaryOfDoom]

Tell me this did anyone actually lisen to them until their most current album? I only listened to them when they got there 1st cd in stores.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

I always listen to them no matter whta I think they are the bes,

[Hazen]

Wasn't 1039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours before Kerplunk?

Or am I mistaken?

kerplunk - January 17, 1992
1039 - Some time in early '93, re-released January 27, 2004
Dookie - February 1, 1994
Nimrod - October 14, 1997
Warning - October 3, 2000
International Superhits! - November 13, 2001
Shenanigans - July 2, 2002
American Idiot - September 21, 2004

[TheOneSin]

Green Day is one of my fave bands besides System of a Down and Nirvana. My favorite album is a tie between Nimrod & American Idiot. Am I the only on that thinks Tre Cool looks kinda wierd?


Yes. Tre does look weird. I think that's because of the faces he makes most of the time that gives me that feeling, but that's just me.

Tell me this did anyone actually lisen to them until their most current album? I only listened to them when they got there 1st cd in stores.

Looks like someone didn't read the whole thread before posting.
Half this thread was about Green Day now and then. There was a five page argument (estimate) over whether or not Green Day sold out or if their true punk or not.

[yamivash 0]

Green day is probly in my top 10 all time fave bands My fave CD is INTERNATIONAL SUPERHITS I have to many fave songs to name them all.

[DarkSoulBlade131]

Wake Me Up When September Ends is one of my new favorites.

[Ant Lion]

Yeah, the parts of 1037 came out before Kerplunk.

Also, according to Billie Joe WMUWSE is the only song on the AI album that veers from the overall story since it was written about his father passing away.

As far as the story's progression most big GD sites seem to agree on:
American Idiot -- Intro
JoS -- About the main character, his life, and his eventual leaving home
Holiday -- Partying and having a good time after leaving home
BLVD -- Kind of like a hang over from the party. JoS finds himself alone and friendless. He originally enjoyed the city, but now he understands how it isn't all fun and games.
Waiting -- JoS is slowly losing control and this is the part where there is some disagreement:
St. Jimmy -- some say Jimmy is just another character to the story, but other parties say that in "Waiting" JoS goes schitzo and Jimmy becomes his new persona. In VH1's Storytellers GD seems to seems to say that Jimmy was originally a new character, but it could be thought of either way. Since I support the schitzo idea I'll be referring to JoS/Jimmy as one character
Novacaine -- How JoS relies on Jimmy/his other persona to keep himself sane.
Rebel -- JoS meets Whatsername and falls in love with her. W is a "real" rebel (GD says the story is of JoS finding the meaning of rebellion) unlike him who had to take on the St. Jimmy persona.
Extraordinary Girl -- Another stroy about W, but this is also showing the tension in their relationship which leads to...
Letterbomb -- which starts off with W mocking JoS and as you can see in the lyric notes in the album is actually part of a letter W sends to JoS saying how she can't stand their relationship anymore and is leaving the city.
WMUWSE -- as stated before, this is about Billie Joe's father, but it could be interpreted as being part of the story as well.
Homecoming -- Jimmy dies. Either JoS loses the persona or the actually person Jimmy commits suicide depending on how you view the St. Jimmy character. JoS is still waiting for W to come back, but can still hear her taunting from Letterbomb ("Nobody likes you!") and he eventually gets tired of it and heads home. As a side note, "Rock & Roll Girlfriend" was written by Tre Cool and is supposedly another character JoS met while he was St. Jimmy who is saying how awesome his life is as a rebel.
Whatsername -- This is about JoS remembering W and how he deals with losing her. It's pretty open to interpretation so I'll just leave it with that.

On another note, I find it really hilarious/weird that Green Day got bashed for sounding the same after Insomniac came out and now they get bashed for doing something different with American Idiot and, to a degree, Warning. Personally, I enjoy all of the Green Day records I have (1037 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours, Dookie, Insomniac, Nimrod, Warning, and American Idiot) and I actually like how they've changed from the Dookie era.

It's mostly in rap that you actually hear a lot of stuff relating to today's events and I really liked the idea of a rock opera which is what makes American Idiot my favorite, not to mention I prefer the songs on it, which, IMO, is the most important about a band not if they're "punk" enough.

Oh, and, I know this was a couple pages back but people are saying Green Day is goth? They have like...3 songs on AI that are actually sad songs (WMU, BLVD, and Waiting.) And have you all somehow forgotten "Walking Alone" from Nimrod, "Macy's Day Parade" from Warning, which has very similar lyrics to BLVD, and society bashing songs such as "She" from Dookie or "Minority" from Warning?

[SilentNinjaMatt]

i think green day is a great band and i have listened to them pretty much since they started but, ever since this new cd, they have become to emo and puckrockish. i hate punks and emo are just funny to look at! green day was better with songs like minority and etc. i think they just went with what people like. thats not me though

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Greenday now thats a good band. :D

[Blade Golem]

i think green day is a great band and i have listened to them pretty much since they started but, ever since this new cd, they have become to emo and puckrockish. i hate punks and emo are just funny to look at! green day was better with songs like minority and etc. i think they just went with what people like. thats not me though

Green Day have NOT became punk.

Explain to me how they sound anything like The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, Black Flag, Minor Threat, Blood For Blood, or anything along those lines.

[TheOneSin]

Ant Lion, that blows my summary out the water, through the air, blasts it through the atmosphere, and now it's just a floating piece of space wreckage that will crash back onto earth in some anime hating kid's backyard while he is playing and crushes is skull in. Thanks :p .

Blade Golem, they've been punk the whole time...

[DarkSoulBlade131]

Green Day have NOT became punk.

Explain to me how they sound anything like The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, Black Flag, Minor Threat, Blood For Blood, or anything along those lines.

What are you talking about? Greenday is Punk, what do you think it is?

[Blade Golem]

Read my post again. The bands mentioned are punk, how are Green Day anything like them? They're not. They're not punk, nor have they ever been.

[TheOneSin]

Punk is differnt bands to different people. There is no true definition of punk to me. Green Day is punk in my eyes and thats the way it is. If you think differently that's fine, but don't go saying that their not, then following it up by trying to force your opinion onto others.

[ShadowZ]

i think your more of talking about pop... pop is more of what people like usually in majority, but a lot of it is a personal opionion on what band is good

heck i hate most music why am i talking about the dif. between pop and punk...

[Blade Golem]

It's a matter of fact, not opinion. Punk is an artistic movement defined by a certain kind of music and an ideology behind it. Green Day possesses neither of these elements, and therefore are not punk.

[DarkSoulBlade131]

On the official Greenday webiste it states that greenday is a punk-pop band.

It could be a matter of opinion. It depends on how you perceive what your listening too.

Edit: As I asked before, if it isn't punk than what is it?

[Decay]

It's straight up mainstream rock.

Just another band that has turned to the ever popular "anti-government/anti-Bush" bandwagon.

Crap is what they've become unfortunately.

But don't get me wrong, I like Green Day way back in the day.

[TheOneSin]

While I value your opinions, I hate how punks bash bands for going mainstream. I understand that punk is about rebelling, but i don't understand how they can't see it as an oppurtunity to get their views across. Green Day is punk (IMHO and I don't want to get into an argument about whether they are or not), and they use their success as a way of showing their views. i envy and respect them for that.

[SilentNinjaMatt]

OMFG i found out i have a concert ova here for em snaps i am buying tickets lol

[Blade Golem]

Punks bash bands for that, because the whole point of punk is to either be 1. Anti-system or 2. anti-unfair treatment of poor teenagers by police, anti-drugs, etc. (see the hardcore movement) and punk is also anti-commercial by nature. If a band's intention is to get famous and make $$$ or is famous and puts out **** to make more money, the band is not punk, as it goes completely against punk ideals.

This is why there is no such thing as pop-punk, it's a contradiction.

[TheOneSin]

And Green Day had no intentions of going huge. They just wanted to make music. The hugeness they have now is just a by product.

[Chickendelta]

I only like american Idiot and Boulovard.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

OKay wow, um green day is still awesome rock regaurdless, whoi ever said the are pop *shank*.

[DarkSoulBlade131]

OKay wow, um green day is still awesome rock regaurdless, whoi ever said the are pop *shank*.

I didn't say they were pop, I said their official site said they were punk-pop.

[TheOneSin]

That's my point exactly xxDark Chaosxx...and by the way, is that My Chem. in your location???

[Himura363]

OMFG i found out i have a concert ova here for em snaps i am buying tickets lol

I don't think you should even bother going. Green Day is horrible live. Havn't you ever seen their Live 8?

::shudders::

[ORACLEPAGER1029]

I don't think you should even bother going. Green Day is horrible live. Havn't you ever seen their Live 8?

::shudders::
I didn't like it either.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Okay thats weird there no where near poop or anything like that and the sin dude yeah it is they are awesome.

[Decay]

I don't think you should even bother going. Green Day is horrible live. Havn't you ever seen their Live 8?

::shudders::


Or haven't you seen how much these non-money grubbing "punk rockers" are having charged for tickets to see them live?

[Black Paladin]

Or haven't you seen how much these non-money grubbing "punk rockers" are having charged for tickets to see them live?

http://www.ezticketsearch.com/tickets/inventory_NEW.cfm?PRODUCTION_ID=269377&EVENT_ID=340&VENUE_ID=2455

that's plenty by my book

[TheOneSin]

They don't make the prices. Their management does...not to mention the fact that its the law of Supply and Demand...

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

THose tickets are some what cheap, trust me I go to concerts alot, I buy some I won some tickets. TRHey are cheap for getting in that close. Well I havnt been to a concert in a long time, because I moshed and I slasjed my arm so my mom wont let me go. To any more concerts......

[Secret Squirrel]

Yes. Tre does look weird. I think that's because of the faces he makes most of the time that gives me that feeling, but that's just me.
Who cares.. he's a good drummer. That punk drumming on American Idiot is HARD.

I've sort of considered GD a punk band. Their drummer is good with that style, but some of their songs are inconsistent. With "Wake Me Up When September Ends" being one of the band's most popular songs, it's hard to call them "punk."

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

No that song was about his dad.................

[MatthewR]

I don't like Greenday...Just my opinion...

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Okay, still that sucks that alot of people don't like them, I want to know why dont you like them? Would you tell me?

[Blade Golem]

And Green Day had no intentions of going huge. They just wanted to make music. The hugeness they have now is just a by product.

They put out utter filth that fit with trends and what was popular and continue to do so when they got big, going in a further downward spiral. Not trying to get huge and make money my ass. pop-punk = fake punk music created for the sake of making money. And Green Day = pop-punk. You do the math.

EDIT:

Dark Chaos...those of us that don't like them don't because we're capable of looking beyond what MTV tells us is good and listening to better stuff. :rolleyes:

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

What no I dont watch mtv I think that channel is dumb, you know the reason all rock is going bad posers like mtv. Thats what pissing me of. Alot, to They should shoot mtv. Also, I listen to all Rock and I dont give a dam if, and or you think its good. Hell if I like it I like it if I hate it then hell I hate it. I dont really have concern at all of what other people think.

[Yugiohmasta17]

Green Day was here in Atlanta last night... Unfortunately, I didn't get to go (I'm broke) but I heard it was great. BTW, did you guys hear the rumors that a movie based on the American Idiot CD is in the works?

[DarkSoulBlade131]

Green Day was here in Atlanta last night... Unfortunately, I didn't get to go (I'm broke) but I heard it was great. BTW, did you guys hear the rumors that a movie based on the American Idiot CD is in the works?

A movie?!?! LOL Weird

Hey we're Ava brothers.

[Yugiohmasta17]

Yeah. The thrusting Stormtrooper avatar. Lol. Anyways, I think AI would make a better Broadway play or something. But a movie... That's pretty wild.

[TheOneSin]

Here! Here, DarkChaos.


A movie...thats sic dude. I love it. I actually started throwing the idea of making a movie for it around with my friends. Like us doing it (not official...no plagerism for us). I think it be fun to do the movie ourselves...put our own spins and views into it.

[3vi1_1337_DJ]

BTW, did you guys hear the rumors that a movie based on the American Idiot CD is in the works?
Starring: Billy Joe Armstrong as Jesus of Suburbia
Mike Dirnt as Saint Jimmy
Tre Cool as... no wait, that's not gonna work.
I, personally, am against turning stuff that was never meant to be a movie into a movie (i.e. YGO), but it would be kind of interesting, in a weird sort of way...
No, leave American Idiot as it is. GD never meant to have such a big CD, much less have it hit the big screen... The 2K4 Grammies were an accident. One song, and that's pretty much the only reason why it happened. Without "Boulevard of Broken Dreams", GD would be taken as serious as they'd want themselves to be taken. But no, BoBD has to hit big, and voila! GD becomes another pop-punk band against their wills.

[Yugiohmasta17]

Tre Cool could be Whatsername.... Heh.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

No, that would, be, very, very, very, very messed up...

[Blade Golem]

What no I dont watch mtv I think that channel is dumb, you know the reason all rock is going bad posers like mtv. Thats what pissing me of. Alot, to They should shoot mtv. Also, I listen to all Rock and I dont give a dam if, and or you think its good. Hell if I like it I like it if I hate it then hell I hate it. I dont really have concern at all of what other people think.

If you don't have any concern of what people think, then why ask them why they don't like the band...?

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

I odnt care, but I would like to know why, because if not then the band stops working hard, because they lose alot of money, and I dont get to hear them any more. I love all Rock. I don't want to see it fall.

[Secret Squirrel]

I, personally, am against turning stuff that was never meant to be a movie into a movie (i.e. YGO), but it would be kind of interesting, in a weird sort of way...
Pink Floyd's The Wall turned out OK. It didn't even have any band members in it; all they contributed is the soundtrack.

I do agree though that it wouldn't be worth it to string out 1 hour of music into 1.5-2 hours of soundtrack just for a movie. Other rock operas are better suited (maybe Tommy? I dunno.)

[Blade Golem]

Pink Floyd's The Wall turned out OK. It didn't even have any band members in it; all they contributed is the soundtrack.

I do agree though that it wouldn't be worth it to string out 1 hour of music into 1.5-2 hours of soundtrack just for a movie. Other rock operas are better suited (maybe Tommy? I dunno.)

Roger Waters wrote the movie, and over-saw the whole project, if I recall correctly.

[Secret Squirrel]

That's true -- Waters wrote the soundtrack and "helped" with the movie production, but none of the Floyd members got screen time.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Well, I don't care it still gonna be an aweosme movie. :D

[Yugiohmasta17]

In my opinion, movies should be saved for the truly great artists. I mean, as much as I like Green Day, they're no Hendrix. They're are more artists deserving of a movie, such as Nirvana.

[superman]

I hope green day wins for the viewer choice awards at the VMA

[Mr. Waffle]

Old Green Day is great... their new album is utterly horrible. I also don't like all the preppy kids walking around school saying their favorite band is Green Day when they only like American Idiot, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Holiday, and Wake Me Up When September Ends. Those songs aren't good anyway, American Idiot and Boulevard of Broken Dreams prominent.

I like the album Dookie, and I'm not sure what my favorite song is. But yeah, anyone with any understanding of music can understand why the new Green Day sucks. That's my two cents.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

I know what you mean, True so true to that, but it suxs that all the preepy kids do that, I mean they did not even know who the freak Billie Joe Armstrong or Tre' Cool, or heck even Mike Dirnt where, yet they claimed to be huge as hell Green Day, fans, but what pissed me of more, was I did not get to go to the Green Day concert and they did. My mom, would not let me go. I am a fan of all there music, I think the album american idiot is an okay album, but not the best I thought Dookie or Nimrod, no wait Shenanigans. Yeah, it pissess me of to see how badlly Rock is being ruined by the media *coughmtvcough*. Which sucks, because you know when Rappers are calling Rockers posers you know there a problem there. Mtv is brain washing all the rappers to liking Rock and they become posers. My sister thought that she was one, and she did not even know that Relient K was Christian Rock. Look, what I am saying is that Posers are beging to become bigger and bigger and will soon mess up music, badlly. They will make all bands seem like posers, look at what they did to Good Charlotte. They made them seem like posers. Which pissess me of. Well any way I just hope that the posers all die, at a friggin Slip KNot concert in the mosh pit (Because mosh pits at slip knot concerts are little kids thoings they suck). :eek: So yeah I hate posers because one they are all preps and so are rappers... hmm

[TheOneSin]

First, DarkChaos, your avatar is friggin' sweet!!!

Second, I hate posers sooooooo badly. "Gangsta" posers are the worst. But when preps start acting all gothy and all that, that's almost as bad. Here's what you could do: ask those posing preps what Mike Dirnt's and Tre' Cool's real names are...

See if they know that one.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

I would admit that would be hard to know. Yeah it is I love Pillz-ee hes awesome. I have so many of em. ^^. If they dont know who Billie is then they won't know who I AM TALKING ABOUT.

Second, I hate posers sooooooo badly. "Gangsta" posers are the worst. But when preps start acting all gothy and all that, that's almost as bad. Here's what you could do: ask those posing preps what Mike Dirnt's and Tre' Cool's real names are...

I know I do to, they are stupid and deserve to be shot. Also I am Goth... So um yeah it pissess me of to see the posers all over the place.

[Blade Golem]

I know what you mean, True so true to that, but it suxs that all the preepy kids do that, I mean they did not even know who the freak Billie Joe Armstrong or Tre' Cool, or heck even Mike Dirnt where, yet they claimed to be huge as hell Green Day, fans, but what pissed me of more, was I did not get to go to the Green Day concert and they did. My mom, would not let me go. I am a fan of all there music, I think the album american idiot is an okay album, but not the best I thought Dookie or Nimrod, no wait Shenanigans. Yeah, it pissess me of to see how badlly Rock is being ruined by the media *coughmtvcough*. Which sucks, because you know when Rappers are calling Rockers posers you know there a problem there. Mtv is brain washing all the rappers to liking Rock and they become posers. My sister thought that she was one, and she did not even know that Relient K was Christian Rock. Look, what I am saying is that Posers are beging to become bigger and bigger and will soon mess up music, badlly. They will make all bands seem like posers, look at what they did to Good Charlotte. They made them seem like posers. Which pissess me of. Well any way I just hope that the posers all die, at a friggin Slip KNot concert in the mosh pit (Because mosh pits at slip knot concerts are little kids thoings they suck). :eek: So yeah I hate posers because one they are all preps and so are rappers... hmm

Errr...how did they "turn" GC into posers?

And, if the said event at the concert occurs, I hope Slipknot also falls into the mosh pit and dies.

EDIT: Oh..and what's your definition of a "goth", anyway?

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Errr...how did they "turn" GC into posers?

No they did not, but now alot of fans have quit on them because, of well alot of poser think they are Rockers, so now people alot, are saying that thet are posers which they are not, I love them they are okay.

And, if the said event at the concert occurs, I hope Slipknot also falls into the mosh pit and dies.

LOL. Yeah that would be good, but now "gangstas" are doing mosh pits wtf? We started that. No slip Knot has some okay songs..

EDIT: Oh..and what's your definition of a "goth", anyway?
Today 01:01 AM

Well my defintion of Goth, Well no I am not gonna say, why beause I choose to not be stero typical giving every thing a label.

[Blade Golem]

Meh, I suppose you could argue that people are turning GC into posers by referring to them as punk.


Well, you label yourself as a goth, so clearly you have a definition for it...

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Yeah, preety much and no I do not label. I am I hate to be labeled. It sucks. Please don't me get into, I have had a lot of fights in my life defending what I stand for. Trust me I have been hit by alot, then emotinol pain and people hating me left and right. I ask don't make me get into this.

[Blade Golem]

Okay. I just hope you're not one of those people that thinks wearing black and pretending to be depressed makes someone gothic. (You know, the mallgoths you see in Slipknot and Korn t-shirts are all the time) I was just testing for that.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

No, no I am not don't dont worry...... :)

[dogo341]

Okay. I just hope you're not one of those people that thinks wearing black and pretending to be depressed makes someone gothic. (You know, the mallgoths you see in Slipknot and Korn t-shirts are all the time) I was just testing for that.

i label myself a metalhead because i only listen to metal. with exception of 2 industrial bands. not because how i dress.

[Majin yami]

I listened to some of Greendays Dookie album. I hated it.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Wow, okay thats kool, Green Days aweosme. :) :D

[Blade Golem]

i label myself a metalhead because i only listen to metal. with exception of 2 industrial bands. not because how i dress.

Industrial and a bit of mallcore (nu-metal) as I recall. :p

What does that have to do with what I asked him, anyway...?

[psionic_nexus]

They just have one hit after another coming.

1.American Idiot
2.Boulevard of Broken Dreams
3.Holiday
4.Wake me up when September Ends
5.?????? (I think its Minority)

[Secret Squirrel]

But those "hits" are just from American Idiot. They've had MANY others from Dookie, Nimrod, etc.. (When I Come Around, Longview, Welcome to Paradise, Basket Case, Good Riddance ..... )

There's more to GD than American Idiot, folks.

[piccolo#1]

I think the user was just referring to GD's latest album or perhaps some people here just aren't old enough to remember Green Day's previous success.

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

Yeah, I Know, I am more into old Green Day though..... They where beter.

[Greg]

But those "hits" are just from American Idiot. They've had MANY others from Dookie, Nimrod, etc.. (When I Come Around, Longview, Welcome to Paradise, Basket Case, Good Riddance ..... )

There's more to GD than American Idiot, folks.


thats what i was just gona say, its anoying how comerical they are now, and the fact that kids buy the album just because they are "in" right now, i bet half the people who post in here only have "american idiot"

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

No, not really well me any way I have all there albums, even shenanigans, (hards to get), so yeah and I even have posters and things I dont know they are my favorite band way before warning came out in fact I started liking them in kindergarden or preschool, yeah, becuase my mom had gone to buy a barney album or something and got the wrong one and it was Green Day, I still have that album, dam I loved them, so yeah....

[NeoSephiroth]

No, not really well me any way I have all there albums, even shenanigans, (hards to get), so yeah and I even have posters and things I dont know they are my favorite band way before warning came out in fact I started liking them in kindergarden or preschool, yeah, becuase my mom had gone to buy a barney album or something and got the wrong one and it was Green Day, I still have that album, dam I loved them, so yeah....
How could a Green Day CD look like a Barney one?

[Captain_Marvel]

To be honest, I am not a lover at all of American Idiot. To me its a whole big ploy involved with marketing and such, I dont want to hear a rock opera, i want to hear greenday punk music. But ive got to admit though, before Holiday got overplayed I liked it, and before wake me up was turned into marketing off of the war I thought that wake me up when september ends was ok too. But anyways, im not even busting on Green Day. I loved, and still do, all of their old stuff like Brain Stew, Minority, When I Come Around, and all of thoes kind of Green Day songs. Hopefully after American Idiot they will go back to their roots.

[piccolo#1]

To me its a whole big ploy involved with marketing and such, I dont want to hear a rock opera, i want to hear greenday punk music

That is one of the dumbest statements anyone can make. No offense to the user. I'm not calling you dumb, but the thought in general. The entire music industry is marketing. The bands you see out there aren't out there for the sole purpose of playing music. If they were, they'd just tour the country for free and put their music on a website for free download. If they tell you otherwise, they are being hypocritical. The goals when it comes to the music industry is to put out a decent product that will make money, not to "give our fans music because music is an art form and corporations suck!".

[xxDark_Chaosxx]

How could a Green Day CD look like a Barney one?


:-p I forget, I don't know, shes cuban, blame her. Yeah, I am just happy she did get it for me though..

[Secret Squirrel]

truth
Thank you.

It's not like Green Day can *choose* what is popular. The people who give them the paychecks want something that will sell well. There had to have been some producer at some point who pressured them to do something like American Idiot.

People encourage others to be an individual and to not necessarily follow the crowd, but sometimes, you gotta do what you have to to stay in the business. Unless the band owns the rights their songs (which, ironically, is a rarity) then touring is one of the only ways they make money. They need to make music that people will want to hear in concerts, or else they'll have to make tremendous sacrifices to keep the band alive.

[Blade Golem]

That is one of the dumbest statements anyone can make. No offense to the user. I'm not calling you dumb, but the thought in general. The entire music industry is marketing. The bands you see out there aren't out there for the sole purpose of playing music. If they were, they'd just tour the country for free and put their music on a website for free download. If they tell you otherwise, they are being hypocritical. The goals when it comes to the music industry is to put out a decent product that will make money, not to "give our fans music because music is an art form and corporations suck!".

Actually, some bands are interested in that type of thing. Of course...they aren't going to do everything for free such as touring, as they would LOSE money that way. They need to at least break even. However, there are some artists that refuse to associate with record labels, sell CDs for very cheap and encourage that their material be put up for download.

The dumb statement in that paragraph was that Green Day is/was punk.

[Captain_Marvel]

That is one of the dumbest statements anyone can make. No offense to the user. I'm not calling you dumb, but the thought in general. The entire music industry is marketing. The bands you see out there aren't out there for the sole purpose of playing music. If they were, they'd just tour the country for free and put their music on a website for free download. If they tell you otherwise, they are being hypocritical. The goals when it comes to the music industry is to put out a decent product that will make money, not to "give our fans music because music is an art form and corporations suck!".

Of course the music industry is marketing,if they dont make money off their music, and if they didnt then being a professional musician would suck wouldnt it? But Green Days mass marketing is rediculous. They have never done this before, they just know kids these days are stupid and will soak up any and everything at all. These guys go to far for the 'fans' and so do Linkin Park[Who is one of my favorite bands, but I choose to admit to myself that these guys are all about the cash, and not about the fans, no matter what they say. If they were about their fans they wouldnt make you pay for their Underground CD and you could just download the tracks for free off their website like they used to a long time ago.] Im sure we all want a Green Day American Idiot wrist band, and Green Day boxers, and of course, how could I forget, Green Day Napkins. Hey, kudos to them if they can see that garbage, but Ill stick to the music. My whole point is that Green Day never really did that pre American Idiot days, id see shirts and stuff, but now its getting to the point where its rediculous and its extremely noticeable [If you are open minded.] What ever though, call me stupid[If you call the comment stupid they why not call the user that too?] Its just how i feel about the subject matter and thats that.

Blade Golem: Not punk? Eh some people say yes, some say no, its what i thought they were.

[Blade Golem]

Believe me..if you've heard any real punk or know the history behind it, you'd understand that they're not punk.

[piccolo#1]

What ever though, call me stupid[If you call the comment stupid they why not call the user that too?] If you fail to see how a person can make a stupid statement without being dumb, ignorant, or uneducated, then maybe I will call you stupid. :p


Punk bands = hypocrites. Its like that quote (though I can't remember who said it), if they really are punk, then they stop being punk the day they sign the record deal. And all bands market themselves like this nowadays. Its a sign of the times. The only band that really whored themselves out prior to this "modern" area was KISS, who practically invented band marketing (care for a KISS coffin? How bout a KISS condem :eek: ) But then again, maybe its not the marketing that annoys people. Maybe its that trend that people fall into where they don't like whatever the current popular thing is. You guys know the one I'm talking about.

[Blade Golem]

Not all punk bands. When they start their own record label so they can do what they want without the interference of "big brother"...and no, not ALL bands do that.

Many bands actually limit the number of copies of their albums that can be released....tell me, are they simply trying to sell as many copies and possible and put out alot of merchandise? No.

[piccolo#1]

When I was speaking of all bands, I meant generally all bands under big record labels. Probably should have made that more clear, but its still true.

[dogo341]

Industrial and a bit of mallcore (nu-metal) as I recall. :p

What does that have to do with what I asked him, anyway...?

wheres the Nu-metal ? on my list

[Blade Golem]

Well, some some consider MM nu-metal, some industrial. However, you had some nu-metal on your list before you were talked into removing it. Maybe it's just me but I highly doubt that you're removing it from your list means that you don't listen to it any more....

[Blade Golem]

When I was speaking of all bands, I meant generally all bands under big record labels. Probably should have made that more clear, but its still true.

Okay, I can agree with that. The best thing the bands on big record labels can do is simply use the system and money to actually put out something decent that people will still buy, instead of the usual unadulterated garbage.

[Ant Lion]

As far as the debate over whether Green Day is good live or not, they recently got the "Best Band Live" award Kerrang Awards in London. Of course...they also got the "Best Band on the Planet" award so it's still pretty much up to taste.

becuase my mom had gone to buy a barney album or something and got the wrong one and it was Green Day
I read that Dookie originally had Elmo on the cover so parents thought it was for little kids... :) (They got sued and had to remove Elmo)

There had to have been some producer at some point who pressured them to do something like American Idiot.
American Idiot couldn't possibly have been made because what's stated in AI is what the band members believe? In a voice message on greenday.com Billie Joe stated his frustration at the Bush administration and cited the book "Dude, where's my country?" by Michael Moore. Well, that's my opinion on the matter anyway: they believe in what they are saying in American Idiot.

rumors that a movie based on the American Idiot CD is in the works?
Those are just rumors as of now. It is certain, though, that Samuel Bayer (the director of the music videos) will not be involved in any such project. Furthermore, the members of Green Day would not be the actors of the movie.

Tre Cool could be Whatsername.... Heh.
He was crossdressing in the "Holiday" video.

if they really are punk, then they stop being punk the day they sign the record deal.
I guess Jay-Z in the most punk of all. :D

5.?????? (I think its Minority)
Their next single will be "Jesus of Suburbia". It will also be the last single off of American Idiot.

And, c'mon, MTV isn't that bad. I love to listen to Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, and Linkin Park and that's just who I am, not because of some fad. Does that make me a preppy follower?

[waterpig]

all i have to say is green day sucks
and there is no pont in lamming what i just said because im not ganna be checking in on this any more

[sixersballernum3]

Does that make me a preppy follower?

Of course. Anyone who listens to the mainstream music and doesn't like someone else's super-cool non-conformist down-with-posers zomgzorz music is a preppy follower.[/makingfunofpeoplewhoreallythinklikethat]

:p

[Blade Golem]

Really depends on why people listen to it, actually. If they want to listen to bad music it's their choice...if they listen to it to fit in and be popular when they know it's bad...that's a different story. And to waterpig:

That was a bit...stupid. There's nothing wrong with stating the truth, but it's all about the presentation....there should at least be some reasoning behind the truth stated. :p

[TheOneSin]

He was crossdressing in the "Holiday" video.



Actually...He wasn't playing Whatsername though. Whatsername and St. Jimmy were casted in the Boulevard/Holiday videos. In the Boulevard video, the guy and the girl that are standing next to the 'Hobbo-Fire/Firing Barrel' were St. Jimmy and Whatsername...

And I seriously hope Jesus of Suburbia isn't the last video. I want to see a letterbomb abd St. Jimmy video. Anyone think that a video like 'Jaded' would be good for St. Jimmy???

[Secret Squirrel]

Ok, am I the only one who is NOT obsessed with this song and DOESN'T think it's the best song on Idiot? The music video is terrible as well.

I thought the song was decent the first time I heard it. Good transistions from acoustics to electrics. The first part of the song is good, but it's basically five verses of poetry repeated over and over and over and over. Five three line verses is not enough for a five minute song.

It also has the least connection of all the songs to Idiot's story.

Sorry.. I just can't stomach more than 3 minutes of this song. Do I dare ask why you guys like it?

[TheOneSin]

That's actually one of my favorite songs on the cd, and has been since I first heard it last year. I like it because I think it's just a beautiful song. And yes it is the only song that really diverges from the cd, although I think it still can be interpretted in...

[Ant Lion]

Ok, am I the only one who is NOT obsessed with this song and DOESN'T think it's the best song on Idiot? The music video is terrible as well.

I thought the song was decent the first time I heard it. Good transistions from acoustics to electrics. The first part of the song is good, but it's basically five verses of poetry repeated over and over and over and over. Five three line verses is not enough for a five minute song.

It also has the least connection of all the songs to Idiot's story.

Sorry.. I just can't stomach mroe than 3.5 minutes of this song. Do I dare ask why you guys like it?
Actually, it's more repetitive than that. The same guitar chords are used over and over again. Most notably the

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------3-----------
----0-------------
--5---------------
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used in the beginning, and the chords

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------4------------------------
--5---5---4--------------------
--5---5---5--------------------
--3---3---5--------------------
----------3--------------------

which are used whenever Billie Joe says "Wake Me Up When September Ends."

Despite this, though, I absolutely love the song, especially the guitar solo. My favorite song is still probably "Whatsername" or "Boulevard of Broken Dreams." Then again, according to my playlist I've played WMUWSE and BLVD both 30 times while I've only played "Whatsername" 6... :confused:

Actually...He wasn't playing Whatsername though
Yeah, though it freaked me out that the verse "Dawning of the rest of our lives" was used during a shot of him since that connects to the lyrics in "She's a Rebel." I couldn't actually tell if Billie Joe was joking when he said that those two were Jimmy and Whatsername.

I'd love to see the video of Letterbomb too...but as of now GD's plans are to end with Jesus of Suburbia and this is supposed to be Samuel Bayer's final video.

[TheOneSin]

I just hope that its not...I think Sam Bayer and Green Day should make videos for the whole cd. They could still make the video's intertwine and tell a story...except for Wake Me Up When September Ends, which is fine because how if it fits or not is up to the listener I think...

[SuperSayian4]

The video for Time of your Life is better than any other Greenday Video.

[Ant Lion]

The video for Time of your Life is better than any other Greenday Video.
Ironically, it was one of the band's least favorite videos.

[SuperSayian4]

One of my other favorites are Holiday Time of your life Brain Stew

[Ant Lion]

I like The Network. :D

"Hammer of the Gods" is such a good song. ^.^

[SuperSayian4]

I like The Network. :D

"Hammer of the Gods" is such a good song. ^.^
Never heard of it

[Ant Lion]

Never heard of it
Go check them out. :)

Also, I'd like to correct some statements I made about the possibility of the American Idiot Movie.

Speculations were supported when Billie Joe Armstrong confirmed that the movie will start shooting some time in 2006. The film will supposedly be called "American Idiot: The Motion Picture"

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1491274/09212004/green_day.jhtml

[CuttingEdge]

i like their older stuff, but now they're too mainstream

[Ant Lion]

Just a bit more news, they're considering their followup to American Idiot and apparently Billie Joe has already written 15 songs already. Sheesh, I haven't even written one. :(

Oh, and I'm pretty sure you have heard The Network, but that'll be for you to figure out. ;)

Mmm...maaiinstream music. <3

[SuperSayian4]

I also like there new song, I fought the Law.

[TheOneSin]

That's not really new. I think they did that around Insomniac (poor guess. just seems like it would fit in around there).

[†§íñƒüllý Åççúšëd†]

Nope its new, they just made it. You can even hear there voices. Its new alright.

[BlackChaosDemon]

I really don't like Green Day's new stuff so much anymore.

Ironically the only song on the CD I like is St.Jimmy.

Eh....their old CDs I have up to AI, and I'm way more for the old stuff.

And seeing them live like I did...ick...they all looked like they had hang overs...which, they probbaly did.

Mainstream totally killed Green Day

[TheOneSin]

I'm telling you that song is not new. First that song is a remake of the Clash's version (which I think was a remake in and of itself). Second, they did the song awhile ago.

and Sinfully Accused, what the heck does hearing their voices mean in regards of it being new or not???

[WildWill]

"I Fought the Law" was originally recorded in the 60's by the Bobby Fuller Four. Green Day has been doing a cover version since the 90's. If I recall correctly they performed it live on stage when I saw them at the X-Fest in San Diego in the mid-90's.

[TheOneSin]

Thank you Will.

Anyway. It looks like the 'American Idiot' movie is a real deal. Billie Joe has already signed off on it and it's scheduled to go into production in 2006 (or so I've heard).

[Ant Lion]

Mainstream totally killed Green Day
I love this statement. Because most people don't seem to realize Green Day became mainstream when Dookie came out. That's when they "sold out" whatever the **** that means.

People who think Green Day is mainstream should only listen to their Lookout! Records material. ^.^ [/rant]

Go go MTV!

[Ant Lion]

In other news, their first official live DVD "Bullet in the Bible" will be released November 15. There will also be a one day showing of the DVD in a movie theatre on November 1st.

Also, The Network will be part of Green Day's openning act in their next sretch of the American Idiot tour. Wow, I wish I could go see them live now. :(

[SuperSayian4]

I like on song from the now: "I fought the law"

[Al_Pacino]

Greenday pwns lol

[Ant Lion]

The "Jesus of Suburbia" video just premiered in UK. The only version I could find on the Internet is the 6 minute version, which is the extra short one. There's also a 9 minute version and the full 14 minute one. It's a pretty interesting video, probably not something that will be shown too much on MTV because of all the drugs, sex, and booze. Seriously, if MTV does some picky censoring the video will probably be about 30 seconds long.

Of course, once it comes out in the states it'll be available on greenday.com.

[TsunamiDuelist465]

its kinda cool, me and a few friends might make a dedication song to old Greenday, by making a pretty long mosh of greeday songs.

including:
Minority
Jaded
Longview
When I come Around
Holiday
Welcome To Paradise
etc.

and thats why it rocks to be young, have tabs/chords, and be bored as hell.

[twist 4 twenty]

ppl love green day cuz of ameican idiot or holiday. every 1 says that. they got better songs like MINORITY!!!! best song ever i also like shes a rebel

[Blade Golem]

A long mosh of Green Day songs...do you by chance mean a medley...?

[Ant Lion]

its kinda cool, me and a few friends might make a dedication song to old Greenday, by making a pretty long mosh of greeday songs.

including:
Minority
Jaded
Longview
When I come Around
Holiday
Welcome To Paradise
etc.

and thats why it rocks to be young, have tabs/chords, and be bored as hell.
Um..."old" + "Holiday"?

Or did you mean "Deadbeat Holiday"? That's what got me into Green Day. :)

And yes, tabs own. If you are including "Holiday" in your list, though, I'd definitely add in "Letterbomb."

[TsunamiDuelist465]

we only are gonna use the holiday intro guitar, nothing more. :)

american idiot were still debating, however we might just put the drum solo into it.

but besides that, maybe JAR

edit; Medley sounds like it would be classical or something, mosh = punk, punk = mosh pit. XD

[Ant Lion]

we only are gonna use the holiday intro guitar, nothing more. :)

american idiot were still debating, however we might just put the drum solo into it.

but besides that, maybe JAR

edit; Medley sounds like it would be classical or something, mosh = punk, punk = mosh pit. XD
Maybe use Brain Stew's intro for your own intro. That's a good audience pleaser or maybe have the bass of Longview somehow lead into the intro of Brain Stew...yay for more 9 minute long songs! :D

[Blade Golem]

we only are gonna use the holiday intro guitar, nothing more. :)

american idiot were still debating, however we might just put the drum solo into it.

but besides that, maybe JAR

edit; Medley sounds like it would be classical or something, mosh = punk, punk = mosh pit. XD

No, medley is a combination of various songs into one flowing whole, instead of playing them separately.

and Green Day = anti-thesis of punk, so according to your own theory it's STILL not a good idea to call it a mosh of songs.

[Ant Lion]

and Green Day = anti-thesis of punk, so according to your own theory it's STILL not a good idea to call it a mosh of songs.
He could just use their 1039 and Kerplunk material. ^.^

[TsunamiDuelist465]

No, medley is a combination of various songs into one flowing whole, instead of playing them separately.

and Green Day = anti-thesis of punk, so according to your own theory it's STILL not a good idea to call it a mosh of songs.


of course theyre enti-thesis now, theyre emo.

back in the day, they were punk.

[Captain Cosmo]

Green Day's not emo. Lawl. They're pop punk. They used to be punk.

But the only reason anyone considers them to be pop punk is because of songs like Holiday, and the fact that their latest recording, "Green Day Presents American Idiot", is their highest selling.

[awesomeoppossom]

:eek: I LOVE GREEN DAY!!
They are the best band ever.
Billie Joe is my favourite too, he's just so god damn sexy.
I love all of there music, and they are awesome live!
I hate people who think they are the biggest fans ever but couldn't name one song from any other album other then American Idiot. :mad:
This is my first post ever on here!

[Secks]

Green Day is awesome. They're my favorite band.

[awesomeoppossom]

The "Jesus of Suburbia" video just premiered in UK. The only version I could find on the Internet is the 6 minute version, which is the extra short one. There's also a 9 minute version and the full 14 minute one. It's a pretty interesting video, probably not something that will be shown too much on MTV because of all the drugs, sex, and booze. Seriously, if MTV does some picky censoring the video will probably be about 30 seconds long.

Of course, once it comes out in the states it'll be available on greenday.com.
:eek: I can't wait to see it. I live in Canada so I don't get to see it. It's the best song on the cd. It kind of makes me sad. Now it's going to get overplayed because it rocks! :D

[FuN iN a BaG]

I'm in Canada, too. I'm sure we'll see it some time or another.

[TheOneSin]

MTV is premiering a live St. Jimmy video on Tuesday. I personally wish it was the JoS vid, but hey,, St. Jimmy's a great song too.

[Black Paladin]

a live Jesus of Suburbia video would take forever, and they'd probably faint half-way through the song :D

[Ant Lion]

a live Jesus of Suburbia video would take forever, and they'd probably faint half-way through the song :D
Actually, as many people know, Green Day is shown performing in all of their videos. The few appearances (and there are only a few) the band makes in the JoS video are all of them performing live; I believe from the performance on the "Bullet in a Bible" DVD. Also, launch.yahoo has the Bullet in a Bible trailer up.

They wouldn't faint...Jesus of Suburbia is consistently the second song they play at their American Idiot tours and they sometimes close with Homecoming, the other 9 minute track on "American Idiot."

[Blade Golem]

The concept that they'd faint half-way through the song because it lasts about ten minutes is ridiculous. They write fairly simple songs and other bands make it thirty minute long songs that are A LOT more complicated...of course, those bands are more talented technically, but still.

[Ant Lion]

Well, for anyone interested: The Jesus of Suburbia video is available at myspace.com (http://videos.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=videos.topVideos&Mytoken=EF414226-7E06-4D3B-BAECD39FB5C2DA923623176093).

This is the 9 minute version. Also, the St. Jimmy video is available on MTV Overdrive.

Enjoy. =D

[Decay]

The concept that they'd faint half-way through the song because it lasts about ten minutes is ridiculous. They write fairly simple songs and other bands make it thirty minute long songs that are A LOT more complicated...of course, those bands are more talented technically, but still.


Grateful Dead anyone?

[Blade Golem]

I was actually thinking of the Allman Brothers Band (Mountain Jam was the song I was thinking of), but hell....GD, ABB alumni, Rush, pretty much every jam band....many jazz artists, etc. Alot fit that mold.

[Ant Lion]

Well, I do not fail to miss the irony that VH1.com just posted up a live video of Jesus of Suburbia. :)

Right here (http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/green_day/videos.jhtml?popThis=popVideo(64433)&_requestid=587420)

[zeal3r]

new green day im ok with, but old green day was actually punk. Im pissed at green day for being corperate sellouts now so before you go on being obsessed with "american idiot" stop posing and go listen to a real album like dookie or warning.

[TheOneSin]

Hm...Zeal3r's been banned? I wonder if that last post had anything to do with it??? :rolleyes:

Anyway, does anyone know when teh JoS vid will be released in teh US without me having to download it???

[Ant Lion]

Well, if you can move to Canada then the video has already been released there. Also, the 9 minute version has been put up on Green Day's official site: greenday.com.

ifilm also has the full 12 minute version available, it premeired there yesterday.

Unfortunately I don't know when the video will be shown in the US.

[†§íñƒüllý Åççúšëd†]

It most probablyl wont I dont think that the goverment would allow it.... I mean that much Blood, sex and booze?

[Blade Golem]

MTV would probably edit it somewhat, but it could still be released.

[Mage Master]

Or they could show it late at night, which thankfully they don't do in the Uk (they show it during the day).

[InEviTabLe.SiN]

The new Green Day songs are personally too loud for me. I like Time of Your Life, which is an old Green Day song. And of the newer songs I like Boulevard of Broken Dreams.

[Ant Lion]

The new Green Day songs are personally too loud for me. I like Time of Your Life, which is an old Green Day song. And of the newer songs I like Boulevard of Broken Dreams.
Most old Green Day is actually pretty loud, too. They've always been very guitar based. Good Riddance was a huge exception to Green Day's norm. If you're into their more quiet stuff, though, I'd say to go for Warning or Nimrod.

Sinfully: Very nice play on words ;) Launch Yahoo now has the 9 minute version up.

[†§íñƒüllý Åççúšëd†]

LoL, Thanks I think.Its true they most prob wont let it on TV.... and if they do I ma preety sure the parents of America would riot...

[z33ler]

all thesse little 12 year old girls are obsessed with holiday, american idiot and boulevard of broken dreams, and they think they are punk becasue of it. this is BS, listen to the other songs on the amercan idiot album, stop posing, and get a LIFE. listen to their old stuff for a change.

[Ant Lion]

By "old stuff" I hope you mean 1039 Smooth and Kerplunk, because those are their only "punk" albums.

Jesus of Suburbia just premiered in the UK and the St. Jimmy (Actually, Are We the Waiting and St. Jimmy both played live at Milton Keyes) was just "officially" released.

A huge piece of news, though, is that Green Day is now considering doing a "Give Me Novacaine" video. That is insane, was my first thought. I mean, if they do that, they'll have released 8 of the songs off of AI as singles.

In other news, the "Bullet in a Bible" DVD is now out. I'll hopefully blow $20 on it this weekend. :rolleyes: You can also download it off of iTunes 1 song at a time or in one big clump.

[†§íñƒüllý Åççúšëd†]

Man I am tierd of all of this friggin non-sence............. its friggin stupidity and ignorance..... I mean wtf?! Green Days always been punk, just because alot of people consider them non-punk, because they went MainStreet or what ever the heck its called. You guys it not there fault they just play there music, and they put there best in to every thing, its not there fault they are so good people like them so they make money to feed there familys and live. You just keep being ignorant and rant about wanting to be the minority wtf?! You guys are being ignorant.. Just stop this non-sence that oh there old stuff is beter, if it was would there be so many posers only to American Idiot? So look don't take it out on Green Day "TAKE IT OUT ON THE GOD DAM POSERS MESSING IT UP FOR EVERYONE!" :D

[FURIA328]

Hell if they are mainstream now that just means theres that many more people listening to them and they are that much better right? Ok I know its cool to say "I was listening to this band before they ever went mainstream and when they used to do little gigs at that one place."

I mean I remember AFI back when they were with Nitro and now they're with Universal. Some people say they aren't punk no more or whatever, you know the true fans will just accept a band for who they are and either part ways with that band or keep being a fan.

[†§íñƒüllý Åççúšëd†]

Yeah people are saying oh no I can't like this band to many peole like them wtf?! Ignorance is a bliss.... oh well I listen to my music and dont care what people say the only thing I hate are the posers that say they are the biggest fan of bands and dont know anything past the cover albums song......

[Secret Squirrel]

I don't see why everyone is so obsessed with specifically categorizing bands. Alternative is already a catch all category, and there's no need to be jumping back and forth between punk and non punk. It's pointless to spend so much time saying that a band is selling out, becuase, really who cares? If you like their music, listen to it, and if don't, well, constant *****ing will not change that fact. GD went mainstream with Dookie.. this is not a new thing.

BTW, Bullet in a Bible is amazing. ^_^ Much better than live 8.

[Decay]

There's a big difference IMO, between bands who simply become popular from the underground and bands that change their music to become popular from the underground.

Green Day's changed a bunch, and to tell y'all the truth, I really don't like much of the change. But hey, to each their own.

[†§íñƒüllý Åççúšëd†]

Look they have some what improved I mean BOB, JOS, HC, AND WHN are friggin awesome songs, but people are ignorant, I have had this same disscusion about otehr bands with a lot of people, but the main point is its not the musicans its all tyhe little posers......... who never found out that on AI Album there was anotehr song then 1.American Idiot...

[sixersballernum3]

I don't see why everyone is so obsessed with specifically categorizing bands. Alternative is already a catch all category, and there's no need to be jumping back and forth between punk and non punk. It's pointless to spend so much time saying that a band is selling out, becuase, really who cares? If you like their music, listen to it, and if don't, well, constant *****ing will not change that fact. GD went mainstream with Dookie.. this is not a new thing.

BTW, Bullet in a Bible is amazing. ^_^ Much better than live 8.

For real?

I picked up Live 8 and thought it was awesome. If Bullet in a Bible is that awesome, I might have to grab it on Tuesday when I get the new SOAD CD.

I'm not a huge fan of Green Day's latest album, but it's still good. I think people who have listened to them before generally dislike it because it's a change. Everyone was used to their style in past albums, so when they make something different, people dislike it.

Like, I was/am a huge System of a Down fan, so when Mezmerize came out, I didn't like it as much because their style was totally revamped, and extremely more melodic than anyhthing else. It's grown on me now, as has American Idiot.

But, as I was saying...

If Bullet in a Bible is that great, I just may have to snag it.

[Secret Squirrel]

Well, I didn't really enjoy live 8 .. this is better. The fans are totally pumped for the concert, often singing whole lines of the music without BJA. Seven of the 14 tracks are from American Idiot. Jesus of Suberia is really good and St Jimmy is really energetic. I'd defintely try to preview it before you buy it though. Their live shows are good, but they're pretty different from their studio stuff. BJA's voice sounds pretty stressed at times and there's also always back up guitars.

[Ant Lion]

I actually enjoyed Live 8 quite a bit, but yeah, Bullet in a Bible was much better. My only actual qualm with it is that they cut out Knowledge, She, and When I Come Around. :(

[Blade Golem]

Hell if they are mainstream now that just means theres that many more people listening to them and they are that much better right? Ok I know its cool to say "I was listening to this band before they ever went mainstream and when they used to do little gigs at that one place."

I mean I remember AFI back when they were with Nitro and now they're with Universal. Some people say they aren't punk no more or whatever, you know the true fans will just accept a band for who they are and either part ways with that band or keep being a fan.


Hahahahahaha "A band is mainstream because they're good!" is the worst excuse for defending a band EVER. I mean come on...

[Tormented Magic]

Green Day is a great band.
They do good on the top 20 on VH1 sometimes.
Go Green Day.

[Ant Lion]

If you like a band's music then being mainstream or not should have nothing to do with your feeling as a fan.

[FURIA328]

Hahahahahaha "A band is mainstream because they're good!" is the worst excuse for defending a band EVER. I mean come on...

Your absolutely right it is a horrible excuse because some rich record producer can just go pay some random guys off the street money to lip sync then pay their way to the top spot of the Billboards all for the sake of being a cash cow. Sorry if my comment some how implied that I was using that as an excuse but these guys worked their way from the bottom up. Unlike boy bands or the ever famous Ashlee Simpson that just jump on the music scene like nothing and grab a top spot right away.

I mean I understand where Sinfully is coming from by saying that "posers" are listening to the music because it is now mainstream or whatever. A band wants to go mainstream, oh well money talks and thats pretty much why I think they do so.

[Blade Golem]

Exactly. The band wanted to go mainstream and created a sound from the very start that would allow them to go mainstream (even if they became much more mainstream recently). People need to realize this instead of complaining about how they didn't want to be mainstream and doing so ruined them because of all the poser fans they got.

[Decay]

Who blames them for just wanting a ton of money?

I don't.

I would so become a musician just so I can make mainstream tunes and hit it rich really quick.

I'd just have to follow the likes of Green Day, Eminem, ir, well, hold on, lemme check my local radio station's playlist....System of a Down, My Chemical Romance...etc.

I'd either have to play music related to an ex-girlfriend, depression, or the government.

Orr, I can take the route of rap/hip-hop and just make rediculous rhymes about money, cars, and "ballin" and I'm in.

It's just that easy.....and that's all that Green Day did.

[†§íñƒüllý Åççúšëd†]

Yeah I mean the band makes money your happy! Eevery one wins, but then posers come in and well thats where things get complicated, because they make every oen else turn against you when your defending the band....