View Full Version : My Third anniversary...
clown master
07-20-2005, 10:59 AM
Well, as of today-ish(sometime around the 20th), I will have been a user of Pojo(Not always the forums, but viewing the main site) for 3 years... I've been a member of the forums for about 2 and a half years, though... But I played YGO and not Pokemon then. Yeah.........
Zangoose (M) @ Leftovers ** Clown Master
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 224 Atk / 32 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
You've seen him, you've seen what he can do...
Vileplume (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 244 HP / 88 Def / 176 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Sleep Powder
- Aromatherapy
- Synthesis
- Hidden Power [Grass]
! Need a witty Nickname
Muk (M) @ Choice Band ** Snorlax
Trait: Sticky Hold
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Focus Punch
- Sludge Bomb
-_-;
Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers ** Immortal Skull
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 172 Def / 56 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Pain Split
- Seismic Toss
- Focus Punch
- Will-O-Wisp
I need help with him.
Espeon (M) @ Leftovers ** Hi I'm Zam
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 64 HP / 252 Spd / 192 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Psychic
- Calm Mind
Unsure about this one... Suggestions?
Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** WTF is This?
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 212 Atk / 220 SAtk / 76 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Roar
- Curse
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
I'm considering Rest>Roar. Opinions?
Yeah, I value C&C and other fixes over all comments on this thread...
jolteonjak
07-20-2005, 11:45 AM
Will Shadow Ball actually kill anything with the EV's you put into Dusclops? I just never knew Dusclops to attack anything directly (except for Seismic Toss). What about using Mean Look or Confuse Ray instead?
InterFed_OV
07-20-2005, 12:10 PM
Fixes underlined (since you already have bolded stuff... :p)
Well, as of today-ish(sometime around the 20th), I will have been a user of Pojo(Not always the forums, but viewing the main site) for 3 years... I've been a member of the forums for about 2 and a half years, though... But I played YGO and not Pokemon then. Yeah.........
Congrats, dude!
Zangoose (M) @ Leftovers ** Clown Master
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 224 Atk / 32 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
You've seen him, you've seen what he can do...
Nice.
Electabuzz (M) @ Leftovers ** I<3toSkarmBliss
Trait: Static
EVs: 64 HP / 84 Atk / 108 Spd / 252 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt
!
Not bad.
Muk (M) @ Leftovers ** Snorlax
Trait: Stench
EVs: 196 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Def
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Rest
- Sludge Bomb
-_-;
Why is he nicknamed Snorlax? Just wondering...
Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers ** Immortal Skull
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 172 Def / 56 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Pain Split
- Seismic Toss
- Mean Look/Curse
- Will-O-Wisp
I need help with him.
Mean Look/Curse > Shadow Ball. Otherwise it appears to be fine.
Espeon (M) @ Leftovers ** Hi I'm Zam
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 64 HP / 252 Spd / 192 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Wish
- Psychic
- Calm Mind
Unsure about this one... Suggestions?
Espy's best as a BPer and WishPasser. You could also make him a Sunnybeamer, but Sunflora would work better for that purpose. :D
Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** WTF is This?
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 212 Atk / 220 SAtk / 76 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Rest
- Curse
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
I'm considering Rest>Roar. Opinions?
Rest > Roar is the standard. You could slap Hydro Pump on him to take advantage of STAB and Torrent, but it's really up to you.
Yeah, I value C&C and other fixes over all comments on this thread...
Pretty good team, 7/10. Also a nifty way to celebrate 3 years as a Pojo user.
clown master
07-20-2005, 12:17 PM
I will use Surf on Swampert>Ice Beam since it hasn't done me any good all day..
Muk was Nicked Snorlax to confuse people reading logs...
I decided to use Focus Punch on Dusclops>Shadow Ball.. I may change that, though.
Same with Rest>Roar for the moment..
Now I need to figure out a heal beller. Any suggestions on what to take out for Miltank/Rosellia?
EDIT: I updated it.
InterFed_OV
07-22-2005, 09:22 AM
If you're going to use Focus Punch on Dusclops, use Night Shade over Seismic Toss.
Delcatty makes a decent UU Beller:
@Leftovers
Cute Charm
Calm/252 HP/188 SpDef/88 Spd? *Not sure here*
-Ice Beam
-Thunder Wave
-Wish
-Heal Bell
clown master
07-22-2005, 11:31 AM
Sorry, but again I updated it...
Zangoose (M) @ Leftovers ** Clown Master
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 224 Atk / 33 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
Vileplume (M) @ Leftovers ** Boobs
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 244 HP / 88 Def / 176 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis
Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 72 HP / 252 Def / 184 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Curse
- Rest
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers ** Immortal Skull
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 172 Def / 56 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Pain Split
- Seismic Toss
- Will-O-Wisp
Espeon (M) @ Leftovers ** Hi I'm Zam
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 64 HP / 252 Spd / 192 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Water]
- Psychic
- Substitute
Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** WTF is This?
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 212 Atk / 220 SAtk / 76 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rest
I've decided that these are the Pokemon I want to use, so any fixes sould be based off of these. +_+
InterFed_OV
07-22-2005, 01:09 PM
New fixes in bold.
Sorry, but again I updated it...
Zangoose (M) @ Leftovers ** Clown Master
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 224 Atk / 33 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
Nice.
Vileplume (M) @ Leftovers ** Boobs
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 244 HP / 88 Def / 176 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis
Awesome. Moonlight does the same thing as Synthesis, right? At least you don't have to breed for Moonlight. Gloom learns it at around level 35 or so. Synthesis is an egg move for Vileplume, which requires more work. But this is for NB, so you can have whatever move combo you want so long as it's legal.
Regice @ Leftovers ** Iceburger
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 72 HP / 184 Def / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Amnesia
- Rest
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
Meh, he's better as a special wall than a physical one. Switch his Def EVs with his SpDef EVs and give him Amnesia over Curse. Also, S-Toss doesn't get a damage boost from a hightened Attack stat, which makes Curse even less appropriate. FYI, Regice can BoltBeam. ;) ;)
Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers ** Immortal Skull
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 172 Def / 56 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Pain Split
- Night Shade
- Will-O-Wisp
Night Shade is there to hit other Ghosts. F-Punch can hit Normal-types, so S-Toss is no longer necessary.
Espeon (M) @ Leftovers ** Hi I'm Zam
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 64 HP / 252 Spd / 192 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Wish/Baton Pass
- Psychic
- Substitute/Baton Pass
Like I said before, Espy's best as a passer. You could have him Wishpass, or he could pass Subs.
Swampert (M) @ Leftovers ** WTF is This?
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 212 Atk / 220 SAtk / 76 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rest
*yawn* Standard-ness. *ZzzzZz*
I've decided that these are the Pokemon I want to use, so any fixes sould be based off of these. +_+
Better team than before, but still 7/10 due to standard Swampert and Dusclops movesets. No real gripes, though. Just watch out for Gengar, both special- and mixed-sweeping.
clown master
07-22-2005, 01:56 PM
Vileplume (M) @ Leftovers ** Boobs
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 244 HP / 88 Def / 176 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis
Awesome. Moonlight does the same thing as Synthesis, right? At least you don't have to breed for Moonlight. Gloom learns it at around level 35 or so. Synthesis is an egg move for Vileplume, which requires more work. But this is for NB, so you can have whatever move combo you want so long as it's legal.
I know, but I perfer Synthesis. xD
Regice @ Leftovers ** Iceburger
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 72 HP / 184 Def / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Amnesia
- Rest
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
Meh, he's better as a special wall than a physical one. Switch his Def EVs with his SpDef EVs and give him Amnesia over Curse. Also, S-Toss doesn't get a damage boost from a hightened Attack stat, which makes Curse even less appropriate. FYI, Regice can BoltBeam. ;) ;)
I put curse there so he'd be able to take physical hits better. After two Curses, CB Metagross's Explosion does only 120 Damage or so. And I knew that S-Toss doesn't get affected by Curse... I Don't care about the Boosted attack. He's just there to T-Wave, Tank up, and Toss. ;P
Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers ** Immortal Skull
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 172 Def / 56 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Pain Split
- Night Shade
- Will-O-Wisp
Night Shade is there to hit other Ghosts. F-Punch can hit Normal-types, so S-Toss is no longer necessary.
I never Will have to worry about Mixed Sweeping Gengar(Since The oponent who uses it prolly doesn't even know what EVs are. And S.Sweeping Gengar cringes at Regice.
Espeon (M) @ Leftovers ** Hi I'm Zam
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 64 HP / 252 Spd / 192 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Wish/Baton Pass
- Psychic
- Substitute/Baton Pass
Like I said before, Espy's best as a passer. You could have him Wishpass, or he could pass Subs.
S.Sweeping Espy works good too. I might use wish, though.
Kuiper
07-22-2005, 04:49 PM
I like Brick Break on Zangoose for killing steel/rock types, 'specially Tyranitar. =p
Beware, daytime-based recovery moves are hard to make use of in standard, what with Tyranitar running rampant everywhere. Anyway, your set is fine, but I always liked Stun Spore, because paralyzing ground types is fun. As for the name, I dunno, maybe Blissey or something.
Regice can make good use of Bolt-Beam, which will ultimately hit more stuff for more damage than Seismic Toss would. It does better with Psyche Up than Curse usually, which actually allows it to function as pseudo-hazer. Note that Thunder functions as Thunderbolt would while allowing you to lose Thunder Wave, freeing up that extra slot you'd want for Psyche Up or something. (Rest is pretty much a staple.)
Dusclops usually does best with Spikes support, or rather, as support for Spikes. (Ghost type blocks Rapid Spin, kills Claydol with Shadow Ball, etc.) Anyway, he can make good use of Shadow Ball and Focus Punch, which I'd recommend over Seismic Toss. (If you're not gonna use Shadow Ball over Seismic Toss, use Night Shade, at least that will hit ghosts that would switch into Focus Punch, and Focus Punch handles normal types that resist Night Shade.
The only Espeon I've ever used is Espyjump, and then that one time I actually use HP:dark over Psychic. I guess the HP issue just boils down to whether you'd rather hit Metagross or Tyranitar.
Swampy should pretty much always have 401 HP. I actually like Hydro Pump, which combined with STAB and Torrent can actually do some really neat stuff, although that's somewhat circumstantial, mainly just hits Skarm, although if you use it over Ice Beam you have nothing to hit Salamence with and it’s kinda hard to damage stuff without Curse, but still…
It looks like you don’t have very much to take physical attacks, so you might want to dump more of Swampy’s EVs into defense and ditch Curse for Surf/Hyrdo Pump, letting it switch into more stuff and just increase its overall versatility, although it won’t do as much damage as it otherwise would, but hey, its typing allows it to take on so many standards it might be worth it.
Goku4rpg
07-24-2005, 11:22 AM
Just add baton pass on epseon and add rest on swampert.
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