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pokeadvice
07-15-2005, 07:05 PM
It's a new strategy I've been thinking up. I don't know if anyone else thought of it first, I haven't seen it anywhere else, and sorry to the guy/girl/other sentient carbon-based lifeform who thought of it first.

Typhlosion @salac
Modest Maxed speed and S Attack, put the rest on HP
Sunny Day
Endure
Flamethrower
Thunderpunch/reversal

If I did use reversal, I'd have to find a new nature and EV distribution. I think it's a nice change from Heracross.

_-*$carface*-_
07-15-2005, 09:40 PM
Yup, the Endure/Salac/Reversal Combo is there already but I never thought/seen anyone using the other one. Instead of Reversal, use one of the starters Type increasing Abilities (Blaze, Torrent and Overgrow) after just surviving the last Attack since it increases that Types Power. Just letting you know, It's not as presice of a Power, like Return. It's just once your HP gets lower than 1/3 of you total HP, your Fire Type Attacks are Multiplied by 1.5. Same for Torrent and Overgrow it's just Grass and Water Type instead of Fire. But that's pretty cool though. Heres a suggestion I have hovering around the basic Idea of your Typhlosion.

Typhlosion @ Salac Berry
Male/Modest/Blaze
[252-SP. ATK][252-SPD][1-HP] (I just used your EV's.)
Flamethrower
Endure
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch

I wouldn't use Typhlosions Attack anywayes cuz when Maxed it's 293. (Maxed as in, Lv 100 Higher Nature) And his Special Attack is 348. Have Ice Punch for Ground Types. Most Rock Type Attacks that are used are from Rock/Ground people so Ice Punch will still take care of a lot of Part Rock Type Rock Attack users. I mean that a Pure Rock is Kinda Rare. Geodude, Onix, Rhydon. They are Rock/Ground. So Ice will still be Super-Effective. Thunder Punch for the Water Types. Flamethrower Cuz it's Strong and STABed and after say just Surviving because of Endure it will be Multiplied by 1.5. So instead of Sunny Day this would Boost Typhlosions Fire Attacks. Of couse, his HP has to be Lower than 1/3 his total HP. And they all take Advantage of Typhlosions Special Attack which is 55 better than his Attack. and Ice Punch and Thunder Punch together Cover his Weaknesses, Basically. These are my suggestions. Good job thinking up that Endure/Salac/Blaze Combo thing. Sorry If I didn't ecknowledge anyone else who might have already thought of this but I never heard this before. Thats my suggestion hope I helped.

Absol
07-16-2005, 12:25 PM
End-Salac has been done for a while. Usually it's not used with Blaze/Torrent/Overgrow, because it's harder to do when you're trying to raise both attack stats. Heracross does it with Swarm pretty well.

Blaziken is better at End-Salac-Blaze, since it gets STAB on Reversal.

TO USE ENDURE AND SALAC BERRY, YOU ONLY NEED 264 IN SPEED! YOU DO NOT NEED TO MAX IT OUT!

Blaziken@Salac Berry
Hasty/Naive, 252 Atk, 176 Spd, 80 SpAtk
Endure
Swords Dance
Reversal
Overheat/Fire Blast/Flamethrower

Don't bother with Rock Slide on here. 75 x2 against a Flying pokemon = 150. Reversal at 1 HP is 200 x 1.5 for STAB x .5 for the resistance = 150... Hmm... Swords Dance over Rock Slide is a better choice.

jolteonjak
07-16-2005, 10:19 PM
I imagine Sceptile could pull it off well too with its already high speed. You probably wouldn't need a Salac berry. Scope Lens + Leaf Blade + Overgrow

_-*$carface*-_
07-18-2005, 10:38 AM
Maybe. But I doubt it. Yeah I sometimes forget Blaziken is Pary Fighting. So I never thought of STAB on Reversal. I always thought it's Max Power was 102 not 200. But I guess that's just for Frustration and Return. That brings up another question. What is Eruptions and Water Spouts minimum Power? Like 30? or 10?