Attacks that affect all types

[shineyaltaria]

I've never seen a list of attacks that can affect all 17 types, though I might have missed it. If you know of one please post. But If there isn't a list somewhere, maybe we can make one. I think this would be helpful.

For example, the attack Metal Claw---even if STABd it's not very powerful, but it has the advantage of affecting all types. It is what I'll call a universal attack.

What other attacks are there that affect all types?

Got Attacks?

[clown master]

Twinneedle
Silver Wing
Megahorn
Fury Cutter
Leech Life
Spider Web
Signal Beam
String Shot
Pin Missle
Crunch
Taunt
Snatch
Thief
Knock Off
Taunt
Pursuit
Memento
Beat Up
Faint Attack
Flatter
Bite
Fake Tears
Outrage
Twister
Dragon Claw
Dragon Rage
Dragonbreath
Counter(?)
Fire Punch
Fire Spin
Fire Blast
Blaze Kick
Eruption
Overheat
Blast Burn
Ember
Sacred Fire
Flamethrower
Sunny Day
Will-o-Wisp
Heat Wave
Flame Wheel
Aerial Ace
Air Cutter
Mirror Move
Sky Attack
Featherdance
Bounce
Aeroblast
Wing Attack
Gust
Peck
Fly
Drill Peck
Spite
Grudge
Confuse Ray
Cotton Spore
Spore
Grasswhistle
Razor Leaf
Solar Beam
Vine Whip
Giga Drain
Needle Arm
Stun Spore
Pedal Dance
Bullet Seed
Absorb
Mega Drain
Frenzy Plant
Sleep Powder
Leaf Blade
Sand Attack
Sheer Cold
Ice Beam
Ice Ball
Aurora Beam
Haze
Icicle Spear
Blizzard
Icy Wind
Powder Snow
Ice Punch
Tail Whip
Sing
Sweet Scent
Encore
Disable
Hidden Power(Depending on Type)
Supersonic
Leer
Psych Up
Growl
Roar
Yawn
Oder Sleuth
Tickle
Weather Ball(?)
Whirlwind
Teeter Dance
Block
Helping Hand
Nature Power(Depending)
Follow Me
Secret Power(Depending)
Pain Split
Smokescreen
Sketch
Struggle
Splash
Glare
Metronome(Depends)
Bide(?)
Flash
Charm
Mean Look
Lock On
Attract
Swagger
Perish Song
Sweet Kiss
Scary Face
Screech
Mimic
Foresight
Imprison
Skill Swap
Trick
Mirror Coat
Role Play
Kinesis
Rock Blast
Rollout
Ancient Power
Rock Slide
Rock Throw
Rock Tomb
Iron Tail
Metal Sound
Steel Wing
Meteor Mash
Doom Desire
Metal Claw
Water Gun
Hydro Pump
Water Pulse
Surf
Clamp
Crabhammer
Bubble
Dive
Muddy Water
Whirlpool
Waterfall
Hydro Cannon
Bubblebeam
Octozooka

Phew.. That's all of them (I think).

[TobiasX]

Do you mean all moves that nothing is Immune to, or a Moveset which will hit a Super-Effective on every type?

Here are the immunities, for those who are unsure:
Fire: Anything with Flash Fire as it's ability
Water: Anything with Water Absorb as it's ability
Electric: Anything with Volt Absorb as it's ability, or Type1 or Type2 is Ground
Ground: Anything where Type1 or Type2 if Flying
Psychic: Anything where Type1 or Type2 is Dark
Normal: Anything where Type1 or Type2 is Ghost
Fighting: Anything where Type1 or Type2 is Ghost
Ghost: Anything where Type1 or Type2 is Normal
Poison: Anything where Type1 or Type2 is Steel


Wonder Guard: Shedinja is immune to:
- Bug
- Dragon
- Electric
- Fighting
- Grass
- Ground
- Ice
- Normal
- Poison
- Psychic
- Steel
- Water

That leaves:
- Dark
- Rock

There, if you pick a moveset made of any moves from the above types, you will be guaranteed to hit every pokemon.

Lol, just realised Tyranitar gets STAB on both types. I need to get his DEF better though to deal with Fighting types...

[clown master]

He meant something that hits every type.

Also, Tyranitar ***** Sheddy without attacking.

[Sephirtoh_Masamune]

I applaud you clown master...nice listy there

[InterFed_OV]

Shedinja is also weak to Flying, Fire, and Ghost in addition to Dark and Rock. But all those types are relatively common, so Sheddy is nothing but a pansy.

[Leelue]

Um so the weaknesses are
-Fire
rock, ground, water

-Water
electric, grass

-Grass
ice, fire, flying, poison, bug

-Bug
rock, fire, flying

-Poison
psychic, ground

-Ice
fighting, steel, rock

-Rock
water, fight, steel, grass, ground

-Ground
ice, water, grass

-Fighting
psychic, flying

-Normal
fighting

-Flying
electric, rock, ice

dragon
ice, dragon

electric
ground

ghost
dark, ghost

dark
bug, fighting

psychic
bug, dark, ghost

steel
fire, fight, ground

...


Well, lets look at all the typs with 2 or less weaknesses

water, dragon, electric, ghost, normal and fighting. 2 have 1 weakness, so those tyes are required....

Earthquake
Vital throw

then you have dragon, so thats ice,

EQ
VitalT
Ice beam

than what? you have fighting and ghost and water and dark,,, none are weak to the same thing, so
BUZZ you lose.


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as for the most coverage....

Surf-beats fire, rock, ground
flamethrower-beats grass, bug, ice, steel
after that, well, you can only hit 2 types at a time, so a relitively good list looks like this

Surf
Flamethrower
Ice beam (dragons/flying)
Silverwind (psychic, dark)

so there it is, 12 types, leaving normal, ghost, fighting, electric, and water.
theres probably a better list, but, who cares, i posted something meaningfull, what is it, a tuesday?

HeHeHe, its post 3, 3, 3

[shineyaltaria]

Thanks to all who posted, and especially to Sir Clownmaster for the list. Did you get it off the net or somewhere or did you make it up. Just curious. If you made it up that would be scary good. I'll have to check and see about counter (with ghosts I guess) but man that is a great list you did.

Tobiasx, I think that the immunities are helpful too. I may decide to do some refining/organization/combining of the info and all the info and then post it to the Help Thread when I get time. Stay tuned.

And Leelue, yes you did post something meaningful indeed. BTW, there is a chart on the Help Thread that one of the mods asked me to include there and it's the standard Attack chart we've all seen that shows how each type affects the others.

Got charts?

[clown master]

At first it was off of the top of my head.. Then before I posted it, I went back and revised it by going off of the smogon movedex. The only things I missed were some of the normal stat lowering moves(IE: Tail Whip). Also, so you know.. I started my reply at 6:30 AM. =|

If anyone can find a more complete list, That would be great. >_>

[InterFed_OV]

What type is Nature Power? If it's a damaging Normal-type move, then it doesn't affect Ghosts. Secret Power doesn't hurt Ghosts, either.

[clown master]

What type is Nature Power? If it's a damaging Normal-type move, then it doesn't affect Ghosts. Secret Power doesn't hurt Ghosts, either.

They change depending on the terrain.. Secret Power can turn into Shadow Ball which hurts ghosts.

[TobiasX]

Um so the weaknesses are
-Fire
rock, ground, water

-Water
electric, grass

-Grass
ice, fire, flying, poison, bug

-Bug
rock, fire, flying

-Poison
psychic, ground

-Ice
fighting, steel, rock

-Rock
water, fight, steel, grass, ground

-Ground
ice, water, grass

-Fighting
psychic, flying

-Normal
fighting

-Flying
electric, rock, ice

dragon
ice, dragon

electric
ground

ghost
dark, ghost

dark
bug, fighting

psychic
bug, dark, ghost

steel
fire, fight, ground

...


Well, lets look at all the typs with 2 or less weaknesses

water, dragon, electric, ghost, normal and fighting. 2 have 1 weakness, so those tyes are required....

Earthquake
Vital throw

then you have dragon, so thats ice,

EQ
VitalT
Ice beam

than what? you have fighting and ghost and water and dark,,, none are weak to the same thing, so
BUZZ you lose.


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as for the most coverage....

Surf-beats fire, rock, ground
flamethrower-beats grass, bug, ice, steel
after that, well, you can only hit 2 types at a time, so a relitively good list looks like this

Surf
Flamethrower
Ice beam (dragons/flying)
Silverwind (psychic, dark)

so there it is, 12 types, leaving normal, ghost, fighting, electric, and water.
theres probably a better list, but, who cares, i posted something meaningfull, what is it, a tuesday?

HeHeHe, its post 3, 3, 3

You missed out Bug on the list of things that you covered, so the list of types not hit super-effectively is:
- Bug (Fire, Flying, Rock)
- Fighting (Flying, Psychic)
- Ghost (Dark, Ghost, Psychic)
- Psychic (Bug, Dark, Ghost)
- Water (Electric, Grass)

My preference would by Flying, because that can hit Shedinja and something else on this list (Fighting), leaving Ghost, Psychic and Water not hit super-effectively. An alternative would be Rock (hits Bug, Fire, Flying & Ice super-effective).

Best idea I think would be either Hidden Power (Flying) or Rock Slide.

My suggestion, get a Dragonite (Good stats, STAB Hidden Power [Flying]), and teach it Ice Beam, Brick Break and Earthquake. I had 1 with EV training that still had 300 ATK with a Modest Nature. Even the EV's between ATK and S.ATK (252 each, and 6 on HP) and it should be fine.

For Rock Slide, get a Rhydon (yes, I know it's 4x Weak to Water and I think Grass as well) and teach it Seismic Toss by Breeding, and teach it Ice Beam, Rock Slide and Earthquake.

[_-*$carface*-_]

What places effect what Secret Power will do? Like on normal outdoor routes its Normal Type and has a 30% chance of Paralyzing. In a cave I think it's Rock Type. Maybe it's a 30% chance of Flinching. Like Rock Slide. When your Surfing I think it's Water Type. I don't know about any Special Effects though.
Thats what I know.

[shineyaltaria]

It's been a while since I used it but yeah the actual attack changes depending on like if you are in tall grass, or on water, or a cave. Should be easy enough to just try out and see.

Ok well I just completed putting in the attack info to the Help Thread, plus the immunity info too. I put it in Post #8 since it seemed to belong best there. Anyone interested can check it out whenever they need it. SA

[Kuiper]

On a vaguely related note, anything that resists Ghost attacks is weak to Fighting attacks.

[Leelue]

cool, never knew that.


You missed out Bug on the list of things that you covered, so the list of types not hit super-effectively is:
- Bug (Fire, Flying, Rock)
- Fighting (Flying, Psychic)
- Ghost (Dark, Ghost, Psychic)
- Psychic (Bug, Dark, Ghost)
- Water (Electric, Grass)

My preference would by Flying, because that can hit Shedinja and something else on this list (Fighting), leaving Ghost, Psychic and Water not hit super-effectively. An alternative would be Rock (hits Bug, Fire, Flying & Ice super-effective).

Best idea I think would be either Hidden Power (Flying) or Rock Slide.

My suggestion, get a Dragonite (Good stats, STAB Hidden Power [Flying]), and teach it Ice Beam, Brick Break and Earthquake. I had 1 with EV training that still had 300 ATK with a Modest Nature. Even the EV's between ATK and S.ATK (252 each, and 6 on HP) and it should be fine.

For Rock Slide, get a Rhydon (yes, I know it's 4x Weak to Water and I think Grass as well) and teach it Seismic Toss by Breeding, and teach it Ice Beam, Rock Slide and Earthquake.


Naw, i think i included flamethrower on my list, so sheddy dies too.
I'd like to see someone elses 4 attack list that hits at least a dozen types, that'd be cool.

[Leelue]

oops, i double posted.

[_-*$carface*-_]

Also, Psychic in Not-Very-Effective against Steel I beleive.