View Full Version : GX dub in fall, skipping 2 seasons?
princedraco
05-28-2005, 03:46 PM
Is 4kids skipping KC Grand Prix and Millinium seasons?
MetallicPyreal
05-28-2005, 03:51 PM
No.
They are showing KCGP sometime this summer(we assume), and then in the fall they've got Memory World and GX on the same timeslot, side by side.
Shizzle
05-28-2005, 03:54 PM
Man they are retarded....
They should at least wait until the Memory Arc is finished and then show GX.
Jimmy Kudo
05-28-2005, 05:44 PM
They didn't want kids to get "bored" with the Memory arc. Little dueling, remember?
Hieibiki Tokaichi
05-28-2005, 06:06 PM
YGO was better when it wasn't all about the card game. <_> <3 01
drizzztdourden
05-28-2005, 06:39 PM
yeah, the story was always great though, no matter if it was involved in the card game or not; although the dub slaughtered the story into a watered down version
MetalYugi23
05-28-2005, 06:46 PM
yeah, the story was always great though, no matter if it was involved in the card game or not; although the dub slaughtered the story into a watered down version
Yeah, the dub destroyed any storyline we could have hoped for, I am looking forward to the two being run side-by-side so that we can see GX and its new characters, without forgeting about the old ones, but obvioulsly I like GX way more than Memory World.
Psyche, ha, Memory World rules-seriously :D
J-Head
05-28-2005, 09:02 PM
Going by what I've read so far in Shonen Jump, if the anime version of the Memory arc is anywhere near the same, it's going to be butchered like woah.
KuroKarasu
05-29-2005, 09:44 AM
Going by what I've read so far in Shonen Jump, if the anime version of the Memory arc is anywhere near the same, it's going to be butchered like woah.
"Butchered like woah" is comparable to saying that lots of people died in the Holocaust. Though true, it's a major understatement.
Just from the two eps of Memory Arc I've seen, I can forsee at LEAST 20 changes total. Mind you, this includes dialogue edits, picture edits, etc.
Eyesh
05-29-2005, 11:25 AM
"Butchered like woah" is comparable to saying that lots of people died in the Holocaust. Though true, it's a major understatement.
Just from the two eps of Memory Arc I've seen, I can forsee at LEAST 20 changes total. Mind you, this includes dialogue edits, picture edits, etc.
Ya, the dub killed YGO. I loved the days when they said: "Kaiba's dead, and up there is his ghost!" Now, they have: "My little brother was taken away from me, and it's all your fault!"
Duzell
05-29-2005, 11:30 AM
Lots of death in the Memory Saga. Im spilt between 4kids screwing themselves over trying to make everything make sense as the butcher it. and not wanted to watch it cause itll be uncomparibly stupid
cyber ape
05-29-2005, 12:00 PM
Since KC Grand Prix is so short, it's assumed it will begin in August and end in October, which will invoke both Pharaoh's Memory and GX.
That isn't particularly bad, because GX hasn't yet had any "OMFG I can't understand this because I never saw the predecessor" moments.
Romancer
05-29-2005, 12:30 PM
GX in the fall? Skipping KC Grand Prix and the Memory Arc? LOL, KC Grand Prix was pretty awful in Japanese, and honestly, it'd be no big loss if it was never released in English, but it will probably be aired before GX's release. As for Memory Arc, after that hits the chop block, there won't be a Memory Arc left.
They should just do what was done to Sailor Moon. Never release the last season in English, and let the hardcore fans import the Japanese Original in all of its uncut glory. I gave up on the English anime series somewhere between Battle City and Duelist Kingdom. Once you have seen the originals, there is no going back.
I'm just looking forward to see how badly GX gets butchered. It's pretty inoffensive, but I gurantee they'll find a way to water it down until even toddlers turn their noses away in disgust. I'll cross my fingers and pray for the minimal of chopping on GX, but I won't hold my breath.
Ryusaki
05-29-2005, 12:58 PM
Once you have seen the originals, there is no going back.
I find it amazing how different the Dub seems with different background music. That is one of things I like so much about the original. Nothing in the dub can compare to Malik's God Phoenix burning the crap out of Jonouchi with the God's Anger music playing in the background. Anyone who has seen this will understand.
KuroKarasu
05-29-2005, 07:31 PM
As for Memory Arc, after that hits the chop block, there won't be a Memory Arc left.
They should just do what was done to Sailor Moon. Never release the last season in English, and let the hardcore fans import the Japanese Original in all of its uncut glory. I gave up on the English anime series somewhere between Battle City and Duelist Kingdom. Once you have seen the originals, there is no going back.
Oh, but they can't do that. See, it's all about a good advertisement for them. They don't want the kiddies saying, "Hey, what happened to Yugi?"
Worst case scenario: They'll show like 9 eps of Memory Arc, possibly chopping a few into one. The sparse amount that gets through will be the eps that have dueling. That's pretty much what they did in the Sakura Card Arc for CardCaptors over here.
In fact, I could go on about the comparison between CC and YGO. Though they are clearly of two different genres, the main problem is the same: Both Nelvana and 4Kids screwed up in deciding the target audience (Nelvana more so). Both companies acted like psivamps (as JoySweeper would put it), sucking out emotion or any potential for relationship. Both tried to make the anime Monster-centered instead of character-centered. Any ep that didn't relate to the Monsters had cut potential.
Disturbing, no?
myth buster
05-29-2005, 08:54 PM
They'll probably push the envelope a bit out of necessity. They'll continue with the normal shadow realm bit, but won't eliminate the violence because they can't.
MindCrush!
05-30-2005, 09:39 AM
I really wish they'd release the whole series uncut. I, personally, don't really like reading subtitles, I like to understand what I'm hearing, and i do, for the most part, like the english voices. So I'd love to see it in its true form in english.
Yūgi's Black Magician
05-30-2005, 09:47 AM
I may be up for that, if they got rid of Eric, Wayne (unless his Jonouchi improves) and Bella Hudson (new Mai).
Strange fact: Sugoroku's English VA is the same VA as Meowth of Pocket Monsters Advance Generation.
Yami_Malik
05-30-2005, 12:58 PM
As long as KCGP is being shown, I'm happy.
retaleate
05-30-2005, 01:02 PM
As long as KCGP is being shown, I'm happy.
what is the kcgp arc in yugioh?
slingblade
05-30-2005, 01:21 PM
what is the kcgp arc in yugioh?
More of a Tournament styled dueling story. One character vs. another.
And in the end whoever wins get's to duel Yugi.
They KCGP is after Doma when they are trying to get to Egypt. Mokuba says that if Yugi participates in this tourney then they will get a lift. It's a filler season that was added to let the Memory World manga finish in Japan.
Darkyami7
05-30-2005, 02:30 PM
Ahem. Let me just say, I hate the dubbers more than anything. They make the whole thing seem like "Let's skip through the flowers and lahdie lah bull crap." I think that they just should have put the whole thing in English, NO EDITING, and shoved it on adult swim on CN.
Also, I think that they should release uncut dvds a whole season at a time, because I want to see certain episodes uncut more than others.
Back to GX. It doesn't seem good. Summaries that I have read say "Yuki Judai's in a dueling school and he wants to show everyone that I don't suck!" I probably wouldn't be so sarcastic about it but their putting it on before they even give Yami a chance to die, and by the way, they'll probably change that in the U.S version to "He went on Vacation," or something stupid like that.
Jimmy Kudo
05-30-2005, 04:41 PM
Gx isn't good as in "good" good, but more like a fun break from the mega-angst of the original.
It is old knews that the dub sucks people. We get it already.
Ryusaki
05-31-2005, 02:08 AM
GX has improved vastly from the boring episodic early episodes. The music has also improved. (I love Carmulla's theme).
Romancer
06-04-2005, 01:37 PM
I wouldn't say that GX sucks. It really is more like bubble gum than anything else. You enjoy it for a half hour at a time then move on with your life. Whereas the original was much more like a 12 course dinner, forcing you to sit through every course to reach your meat and deserts.
cyber ape
06-04-2005, 01:47 PM
They didn't want kids to get "bored" with the Memory arc. Little dueling, remember?
Little dueling, and a complete butcher to boot.
RedEyes Black Dragon
06-04-2005, 05:54 PM
I wish they wouldn't change this stuff. Stupid dubbers! They even changed the name of my fave Legendary Dragon! Jus cause it was HELmos(I think)!More stupid dubbers.....
Sigh it would be a miracle if the dub doesn't butcher up the memory saga. So much deaths, so much edits, so much picture edits, and eveyrhting that I won't believe woudl happen. These dubbers are being far beyond overprotected soccer moms. Gosh, like these kids haven't seen more graphic stuff.
Also, to the person who said something about Card Captors I could feel the same thing. The ending was kind of empty. Also, the sailor moon last season never reached American shores, which was displeasing. I really wished they had shown the uncut version of the episodes like somewhere in a station or something. Too bad that I have only public television, so I cannot watch adult swim.
jaws_is_ra
06-05-2005, 06:32 PM
you all have not see it yet so you can not say any hting htye might get hte right to show the uncut of the last part of hte seairs
that the only part to let you know
and htye might hswo the last seairs on CN just to let you know WB is not the only on es killing hte show other stamsins do also
liek hte UK they have it being shown on NICK
Nickelodeon United Kingdom Yu-Gi-Oh! webpage (http://www.nick.co.uk/nicktoons/shows/yugioh/index.aspx)
Nickelodeon Australia Yu-Gi-Oh! webpage (http://www.nickelodeon.com.au/allnick/tvshows/yugioh/)
just to let you know htye get to show the hsow 1 month before the usa and htye are the ones editei ng the show firs not WB
KuroKarasu
06-05-2005, 07:00 PM
Sigh it would be a miracle if the dub doesn't butcher up the memory saga. So much deaths, so much edits, so much picture edits, and eveyrhting that I won't believe woudl happen. These dubbers are being far beyond overprotected soccer moms. Gosh, like these kids haven't seen more graphic stuff.
Also, to the person who said something about Card Captors I could feel the same thing. The ending was kind of empty. Also, the sailor moon last season never reached American shores, which was displeasing. I really wished they had shown the uncut version of the episodes like somewhere in a station or something. Too bad that I have only public television, so I cannot watch adult swim.
Yay, someone else who doesn't have cable!
Heck, they could probably squeeze all of Memory Arc into one movie for the ending.
P.S.- (Spoiler for CC fans) For those of you CC watchers wondering, the REAL ending was in the never-dubbed second movie. The "Hope" in the dub was originally nameless, and fused with The Void in the second movie to make The Hope. Reason for not dubbing? It was almost entirely about Li/Sakura relationship.
master of dark soul
06-06-2005, 08:22 AM
remember they are over killing the yugioh fan next year no one would watch it if they keep showing it side by side
kidhero
06-06-2005, 04:32 PM
YGO was better when it wasn't all about the card game. <_> <3 01 i agree with u monster world is the best lost yugioh episode ever
kidhero
06-06-2005, 04:35 PM
"Butchered like woah" is comparable to saying that lots of people died in the Holocaust. Though true, it's a major understatement.
Just from the two eps of Memory Arc I've seen, I can forsee at LEAST 20 changes total. Mind you, this includes dialogue edits, picture edits, etc. its called "millenium world" people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Twilight-Hacker
06-06-2005, 05:02 PM
GX has improved vastly from the boring episodic early episodes. The music has also improved. (I love Carmulla's theme).
Yeah it's awesome.
A lot of people think GX is bad, which it really isn't. It's a good break from: "OMFG! You destroyed my Alphabet Magnet Warrior! Now I'll never win and the owrld will crumble into the Shadow Realm! Waah..."
I think GX is great. The cards are cool, and the opponents they duel are mad awesome. Vamp. Cammilla has to have the coolest deck.
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Ryusaki: Did you see it on Nebs tk.? I think they skipped the part when V Camilla was beaten, or it's just like that.
Ryusaki
06-07-2005, 10:08 AM
Twilight-Hacker: I started using nebs after that episode. I had other ways...
heero
06-07-2005, 10:27 AM
Just to lay to rest the rumors that they are either skipping this or GX is on after yu gi oh, here is the fall 2005 kids wb schdule:
8:30 a.m. COCONUT FRED'S FRUIT SALAD ISLAND *(New Series)
9:00 a.m. LOONATICS *(New Series)
9:30 a.m. XIAOLIN SHOWDOWN
10:00 a.m. POKÉMON *(New Adventures)
10:30 a.m. JOHNNY TEST *(New Series)
11:00 a.m. YU-GI-OH!
11:30 a.m. THE BATMAN
MONDAY-FRIDAY
3:00 p.m. POKÉMON
3:30 p.m. XIAOLIN SHOWDOWN *(New to Weekdays)
4:00 p.m. YU-GI-OH!
4:30 p.m. THE BATMAN (New to Weekdays
Yu Gi Oh GX will appear exclusive only Cartoon Network during the Miguzi show.
MetallicPyreal
06-07-2005, 10:47 AM
its called "millenium world" people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope, that's the Shonen Jump translation. The real name for the series is "Pharaoh's Memory Saga" or "Memory World." Millenium World just doesn't sound very good, IMO, but it's better then the crap 4Kids would've come up with.
myth buster
06-10-2005, 11:22 AM
Just to lay to rest the rumors that they are either skipping this or GX is on after yu gi oh, here is the fall 2005 kids wb schdule:
8:30 a.m. COCONUT FRED'S FRUIT SALAD ISLAND *(New Series)
9:00 a.m. LOONATICS *(New Series)
9:30 a.m. XIAOLIN SHOWDOWN
10:00 a.m. POKÉMON *(New Adventures)
10:30 a.m. JOHNNY TEST *(New Series)
11:00 a.m. YU-GI-OH!
11:30 a.m. THE BATMAN
MONDAY-FRIDAY
3:00 p.m. POKÉMON
3:30 p.m. XIAOLIN SHOWDOWN *(New to Weekdays)
4:00 p.m. YU-GI-OH!
4:30 p.m. THE BATMAN (New to Weekdays
Yu Gi Oh GX will appear exclusive only Cartoon Network during the Miguzi show.
Well that's a twist.
i actuly like the memory saga with the all of that blod and all that force from the gods good as bad and how it al ends thats the best
mřlla
06-12-2005, 09:55 AM
the memory saga is gonna be so bad becous 4kids gonna make the show so happy and cut away al the killing.
Yay, someone else who doesn't have cable!
Heck, they could probably squeeze all of Memory Arc into one movie for the ending.
P.S.- (Spoiler for CC fans) For those of you CC watchers wondering, the REAL ending was in the never-dubbed second movie. The "Hope" in the dub was originally nameless, and fused with The Void in the second movie to make The Hope. Reason for not dubbing? It was almost entirely about Li/Sakura relationship.
I hope they don't squeeze all of the Memroy Arc into one movie for the ending because I really want to feel everything, not just a digest of the storyline. If they butcher up that Arc I would be uber pissed. Also, Yu-gi-oh, Family Guy, Pokemon, Simpsons, and American Dad are the only things that I usually watch on T.V since I don't have any cable (I miss Futurama so much.) Anyways, if they do make it a movie, they better not dub anything and make it even more graphic than Yugioh:The Movie. I mean, when I watched the movie I was suprised that 4Kids did not pointlessly dub anything in the movie and it was better than expected. I mean, who couldn't love Joey's arse getting stabbed by IFL, Yugi getting stabbed by Peten, and the word "die" takes me back some memories. It just made me wished that the series weren't dub either even more. ...Sigh I really wished I could see an uncut version of Yugioh on T.V. because that would just be sweet.
Roland
06-12-2005, 01:37 PM
I really don't know hwo there gonna show the meories arc, i mean c'mon... Dragon wang? seriously people Dragon wang! THE HORROR!! THE HORROR!!
MetallicPyreal
06-12-2005, 02:53 PM
I really don't know hwo there gonna show the meories arc, i mean c'mon... Dragon wang? seriously people Dragon wang! THE HORROR!! THE HORROR!!
WTF are you talking about?
KingofGames1400
06-13-2005, 10:45 AM
Someone already posted the news reported in this post
kaze950
06-13-2005, 04:44 PM
How do you all watch the GX episodes? Because I really want to see em, but i only have the subtitled DVD for epsidoes 1-13. I really want to see the 7 assasins and all that.
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