View Full Version : Dartz and Hitler use the same tricks
nightspade
05-23-2005, 10:47 PM
Both Dartz and Hitler did the same thing. They found people who where desperate, who would turn to anyone, and they said just the right things and promised just the right stuff. They were also intent on wiping out anyone who disagreed with them. Both also believed that they were serving the greater good. The difference being that Dartz caused the desperation of his blindly loyal followers, while Hitler just had the chance thrown to him by fate.
Both Dartz and Hitler did the same thing. They found people who where desperate, who would turn to anyone, and they said just the right things and promised just the right stuff. They were also intent on wiping out anyone who disagreed with them. Both also believed that they were serving the greater good. The difference being that Dartz caused the desperation of his blindly loyal followers, while Hitler just had the chance thrown to him by fate.
Pretty interesting thought nightspade. I agree with you since Dartz and Hitler do have some similarities. Also, if you haven't noticed one of the souls captured by Dartz contains someone in the tablet that looked similar to Hitler in this pic I saw in one of these threads.
Urza the Tyrant
05-24-2005, 09:02 AM
Wow...... good observation.
master of dark soul
05-24-2005, 09:19 AM
dartz didnt want to destroy everyone in his way he want he lavaatin and restart the world world
Snodin
05-24-2005, 09:37 AM
Dartz and Hitler both had what's called megalomania, which is a mental disorder that makes them think they're better than everybody, or greater than they really are. It's a sad, sick and twisted disorder, and saddest part of all, it's real.
KuroKarasu
05-24-2005, 03:48 PM
Dartz and Hitler both had what's called megalomania, which is a mental disorder that makes them think they're better than everybody, or greater than they really are. It's a sad, sick and twisted disorder, and saddest part of all, it's real.
Of course it is, Sno. There are all sorts of mental disorders out there. There's also egotism, which can happen to anyone. However, I wouldn't go bashing any mental disorders.
I just made a note of this in the Oreichalkos thread, so I'll summarise what I said there briefly. It seems like fascism. Those who have been successfully brainwashed are assured that Dartz is always right, which is indeed like Mussolini and Hitler. Like any fascist dictator, Dartz destroys anyone who opposes (or at least tries).
At the same time, it's not as strong as historical fascism. Note how Mai was fighting only for herself, instead of the grand cause. She had no reason to hate all of humanity, and so rebelled.
HalHornCorSec
05-24-2005, 04:46 PM
Actually, I'd say (given that description) Dartz is more like Chancellor/Emperor Palpatine of Star Wars than Hitler, reason being that he manipulated events to shape his chief enforcers (Raphael, Alister, Varon, etc.; Vader, etc.). Of course, both are fictional characters probably based on such figures as Hitler.
Anyway, yeah. Interesting thought.
Later.
Sephiroth5567
05-24-2005, 06:24 PM
Actually, Dartz wanted to kill all of Humanity, while Hitler :mad: wanted to kill the people who weren't "perfect" like him. And, you're right. They were both probably megalomaniacs, even though Hitler was way more eviler.
Shizzle
05-24-2005, 06:45 PM
Does anyone have a link to the pic of Hitler on the wall?
MindCrush!
05-24-2005, 07:59 PM
Except Hitler wasn't what he claimed ot be perfect (blode-haired, blue-eyed)
MindCrush!
05-24-2005, 07:59 PM
(sorry, stupid computer)
KuroKarasu
05-24-2005, 10:58 PM
Except Hitler wasn't what he claimed ot be perfect (blode-haired, blue-eyed)
Dartz really does that, too; he says man is evil, but seems to forget he's human as well.
Jimmy Kudo
05-24-2005, 11:31 PM
Actually, Dartz wanted to kill all of Humanity, while Hitler :mad: wanted to kill the people who weren't "perfect" like him. And, you're right. They were both probably megalomaniacs, even though Hitler was way more eviler.
Actually he wanted people who could conquer their "darkness" and pretty much the entire human race didn't fit that in his eyes. He wanted a perfect "race" of humans, but it was more complicated that Hitlers goals.
nightspade
05-25-2005, 07:48 AM
Except Hitler wasn't what he claimed ot be perfect (blode-haired, blue-eyed)
Dartz really does that, too; he says man is evil, but seems to forget he's human as well.
It seems that the people who hate themselves are the most evil people in the world. Lesson learned: Don't hate yourself, or you might end up like Hitler and his 'Master race'.
Joysweeper
05-25-2005, 05:27 PM
Dartz really does that, too; he says man is evil, but seems to forget he's human as well.
But is he?
You've heard about how modern humans are taller than their ancestors. Partly because of nutrition, but that can't be all of it.
Look at Dartz. He is not short. At all. It could be an Atlantian thing, but did you see him in the Egypt scene? Was he stooping or towering over people?
Plus, ancient humans thought living to your forties made you really old. What's Dartz, over ten thousand? I realize that it could be another Atlantian thing, and that the Orichalkos preserves him, but still.
What's it done to him? It's preserved his body and presumably his mind(He isn't senile) in pristine condition, it's kept him able to adapt to the times, it's raised his height slowly over centuries so he's always "Slightly tall, but not freakish". And it changed the color of one eye.
He might not be human anymore. Human-derived, certainly. But not human as in the sense of homo sapiens sapiens, the average human from breeding-with-neanderthal(spelling!) days to twenty-first century and beyond.
Homo sapiens orichalkos, anyone?
Dartz and "humankind is evil" is like me and "I don't like babies". Everyone always says "You were one, so you HAVE to love them, or there's Something Wrong With You, Freak"(And in my case "You're female. Your maternal instict drives you to LOVE BABIES UNCONDITIONALLY. Yes, even when they're slimy screaming red larvae."). I seek to avoid babies, children, and fellow teenagers(Sixteen today. I feel old.) as well as some young adults; Dartz seeks(sought?) to destroy those specimens of humanity that are not unlike slimy screaming red larvae.
*cough*
Zha'hai'allav'a.
cyber ape
05-25-2005, 06:03 PM
Dartz is also similar to God. God wanted to get rid of every human in the story of Noah's Arc, thus, he flood the world in the same way Dartz was going to use the Leviathin. It's a shame Yuugi could stop Dartz yet nobody could stop God :-/
Oh yeah, and both are lunatics ><
Shizzle
05-25-2005, 06:11 PM
Is it just more or.. are people on pojo flippen smart.... i.e. Jowsweeper
beaverteeth92
05-25-2005, 06:18 PM
Is it just more or.. are people on pojo flippen smart.... i.e. Jowsweeper
You figured that out on your own? Have a cookie. *gives Shizzle a cookie*
KuroKarasu
05-25-2005, 06:24 PM
You've heard about how modern humans are taller than their ancestors. Partly because of nutrition, but that can't be all of it.
Look at Dartz. He is not short. At all. It could be an Atlantian thing, but did you see him in the Egypt scene? Was he stooping or towering over people?
Plus, ancient humans thought living to your forties made you really old. What's Dartz, over ten thousand? I realize that it could be another Atlantian thing, and that the Orichalkos preserves him, but still.
What's it done to him? It's preserved his body and presumably his mind(He isn't senile) in pristine condition, it's kept him able to adapt to the times, it's raised his height slowly over centuries so he's always "Slightly tall, but not freakish". And it changed the color of one eye.
He might not be human anymore. Human-derived, certainly. But not human as in the sense of homo sapiens sapiens, the average human from breeding-with-neanderthal(spelling!) days to twenty-first century and beyond.
Homo sapiens orichalkos, anyone?
Dartz and "humankind is evil" is like me and "I don't like babies". Everyone always says "You were one, so you HAVE to love them, or there's Something Wrong With You, Freak"(And in my case "You're female. Your maternal instict drives you to LOVE BABIES UNCONDITIONALLY. Yes, even when they're slimy screaming red larvae."). I seek to avoid babies, children, and fellow teenagers(Sixteen today. I feel old.) as well as some young adults; Dartz seeks(sought?) to destroy those specimens of humanity that are not unlike slimy screaming red larvae.
Fully, agreed, JS. Especially on the baby part.
myth buster
05-25-2005, 07:27 PM
Dartz is also similar to God. God wanted to get rid of every human in the story of Noah's Arc, thus, he flood the world in the same way Dartz was going to use the Leviathin. It's a shame Yuugi could stop Dartz yet nobody could stop God :-/
Oh yeah, and both are lunatics ><
Not God, he's similar to the Antichrist. He wants to distroy the world with darkness and considers allies expendable. In a previous thread, I likened DOMA's contents to various things in The Book of Revelation.
nightspade
05-25-2005, 07:44 PM
Not God, he's similar to the Antichrist. He wants to distroy the world with darkness and considers allies expendable. In a previous thread, I likened DOMA's contents to various things in The Book of Revelation.
Symbol on the forehead= mark of the beast (?)
+ people believing a false savior to be the real thing (Dartz)
Shizzle
05-25-2005, 07:49 PM
Nightspade you live in kentucky cool ur gonna hvae ta pm me..
N E ways on topic yea i gotsta agree wit yall on the whole hitler=dartz thing... but fail to know much bout hitler for we ahvnt reach that far in History...
Joysweeper
05-27-2005, 03:14 PM
Fully, agreed, JS. Especially on the baby part.
My maternal instinct has been ...rewired. I go all coo-oh-how-cute on cats. And birds. And snakes(LOVE those forked tongues!). And especially baby crocodilians. Is there ANYTHING cuter than an ahht-ing baby croc?*incoherent babbling* Well, they would be cuter if they had longer necks, forward-facing eyes, grasping limbs, and wings, but let's not go there.
It's just humans that give me a bad reaction. I'm sorry, but human babies... I realize that all (or almost all)younglings make messes at both ends, cry and cry and will not be consoled, become ill for mysterious reasons, play loudly at all hours, etc etc, but still...
Me? Smart? :confused: Why, however did you come to that conclusion? I'm just a humble...
About god/antichrist: Hmm. It's interesting, though, how while the Pure of Heart are saved, but those who are innocent of it all and completely unknowing are killed out of hand? Or so I've been told.
I don't claim to understand religion. Oh, what a kettle of furious mutant lobsters I'd be in if I claimed that! Possibly flying cookie-cutter sharks too. Yike.
But try to keep it down. If anything triggers a "flame war", religion tends to be fairly high on the list, what with all-people-of-this-faith-are-demons views and such. I've seen a few of those.
Zha'hai'allav'a.
marauding axe
05-27-2005, 10:16 PM
The Treaty of Versailles reduced Germany to a very desperate state, indeed, which gave Adolf Hitler the opportunity to pull off an otherwise insanely impossible feat....I like the analogy with Dartz..welcome to the "thinks too much club"....becoming part of something great was very seductive...
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