View Full Version : Kaiba keeps it REAL.
nightspade
05-08-2005, 09:02 AM
Yami: (Of arriving at Dartz's lair.) We have arrived at the heart of darkness.
Kaiba: Must you always be so dramatic?
Kaiba: (When Yami plans to take down Dartz.) Stop saving the world for once and get a hobby!
Kaiba: (After Yami tells him it's his destiny to help take down Dartz) If I had a dime for every time you said the word 'destiny', I'd be even richer.
I have only recently noticed how 'real' Kaiba is. What do you think?
KuroKarasu
05-08-2005, 09:12 AM
Indeed. I rather like the quote about saving the world. :)
Manjyome Thunder
05-08-2005, 09:15 AM
yeah Kaiba was unusually funny in Saturdays 2 eps.
MetallicPyreal
05-08-2005, 10:28 AM
Dub Kaiba is an inconsiderate pigheaded *******. The original Kaiba was not like that at all.
All of Kaiba's lines in the new eps disgust me.
DarkMorphmon
05-08-2005, 10:44 AM
C'mon. If you were Kaiba, who grew up with technology, would you believe in magic and monsters? I doubt it. Plus, he makes some interesting points about the Pharoh. He is a malodramatic windbag who saves the world once too often. He does need a hobby, but isn't Duel Monsters a hobby?
Too bad all the duels he is in turns into life-or-death struggles. It must be becoming annoying to him.
Oh well. That's what you get when you're the protagonist :p .
Ryusaki
05-08-2005, 10:46 AM
Smart, dub Kaiba is not. Dub Kaiba's lines good, are not. Better, original Kaiba was. Yoda, I am. Dub Kaiba, I hate.
MetallicPyreal
05-08-2005, 10:48 AM
C'mon. If you were Kaiba, who grew up with technology, would you believe in magic and monsters? I doubt it. Plus, he makes some interesting points about the Pharoh. He is a malodramatic windbag who saves the world once too often. He does need a hobby, but isn't Duel Monsters a hobby?
Well I would believe in magic if I got my soul sucked out of my body not once, but TWICE. And then in Battle City he saw countless people get blasted to hell by Ra, but didn't believe it.
And wtf was up when Kaiba said that the Pharaoh needed a new hobby? I thought him 'saving the world'(but only in the dub) was a good thing.
Charninja
05-08-2005, 12:31 PM
Alright, if you hate Dub Kaiba so much, what did he say in the Japanese version?
MetallicPyreal
05-08-2005, 12:41 PM
Alright, if you hate Dub Kaiba so much, what did he say in the Japanese version?
Something nicer then in the dub, probably.
I only remember a few of the japanese Kaiba lines.
DUB
Kaiba: (holding Critias after Jounouchi dies. Critias glows.) It must be a glitch in the hologram.
ORIGINAL
Kaiba: (same scene) Critias is crying...
DUB
Rebecca: Maybe you should let me come work for you sometime.
Kaiba: Yeah, right.
ORIGINAL
Rebecca: (something along the same lines)
Kaiba: I'll consider it.
He doesn't believe in magic that much in the Japanese version either, apparently(from what I've read at Cody's Episode Guide), but he's a more decent person and actually has emotion. He's not as much of an ass in the original.
Shizzle
05-08-2005, 01:01 PM
Man their COMPLETELY different people thats just weird. That just goes to show you how much they change.
Horoko
05-08-2005, 01:03 PM
He calls the "magic and such" a bunch of "Occult nonsense"
Kaiba: Why don't you go tell that Occult nonsense to someone like Yuugi?!
- VS Bakura
Oracle of Dreams
05-08-2005, 01:07 PM
I thought Saturday's episodes with Kaiba were hilarious. If they've already made Kaiba an overly arrogant character they may as well get some fiunny lines out of it, imo.
drizzztdourden
05-08-2005, 01:39 PM
kaiba is my favorite character in both dub and original, however the original is better without a doubt (2nd favorite is Malik, or Marik in english version);
the thing is, in comparision with the original version, everthing about the english version sucks
edit: does anybody know when the undubbed us versions will be released on DVD?
RareHunterX
05-08-2005, 01:43 PM
I Liked those Kaiba Quotes/
Regardless of how it sounds.
I do agree he is vey arrogant in teh dub but w/e.. I still Like him
Snodin
05-08-2005, 02:30 PM
The original Kaiba sounds like someone I'd like to get to know...
But whether dubbed or not, there's only one thing about Kaiba that really keeps it real: his deck. He undoutedly has one of the most playable decks in the anime; it makes me wonder why Yugi's deck isn't like that at all, since he's the King of Games.
But we already had this topic, didn't we?
Eh, I'll get back on the subject... I really started to hate Kaiba after the end of the Duelist Kingdom arc, because up until then, his ignorance was fairly tolerable. I mean, he only experienced the powers of a Millennium Item once (well okay, technically twice when Atem shocked him after beating him with Exodia), so it seemed to fit that Kaiba would keep this macho "I care for noone but myself and screw all magic speeches" attitude for a little while...
Then Battle City started, and it began his slow but steady downfall, personality-wise. Like Yugi/Atem, he's sounding more and more like a broken record, and it's really starting to bother me. He even said "There must be a glitch in the hologram" TWICE. Somebody should seriously slap him a few times.
I winder if they'll finally change his attitude after this arc....
Nah; knowing Kids WB, they won't.
KuroKarasu
05-08-2005, 03:26 PM
Snodin, you haven't seen how playable his deck can GET; he uses Chaos Emperor Dragon and a sick Dimension Fusion combo later on.
Zalde
05-08-2005, 09:51 PM
Movies/Shows/ w/e, change when they get dubbed.
EG. Spirited Away
Dub
Sen: 'Haku, BITE 'EM!'
Original
Sen: 'Haku!' (in realization of what she has said) 'Haku?'
And from that point on it is completely different. She keeps wondering in the original, whereas in the dub she knows.
Then how in Princess Mononoke,
Dub
Moro: 'A****aka, can you save the girl you love'
Original
Moro: 'A****aka, can you save my daughter'
And how they change 'Deer God' to 'Great Spirit of The Forest'
Arc Reiland
05-09-2005, 01:15 AM
Kaiba thinks Yugi needs to get a hobby?? This coming from a boy who spent millions to publically crush Yugi at Duel Monsters (ref. the original Japanese manga), sponsored an entire freakin' tournament just to reclaim his title as #1 Duelist, and in the cartoon staunchly refuses to let up on his quest to trounce Yugi and prove his superiority?
Man, this kid seriously needs a time out from card playing.
Best Seto line eva (voicing a viewer's exact feelings to one too many card effects discussed in minute detail):
PEGASUS: "I activate Cost Down, which means--"
KAIBA: "-Do you ever shut up? I know what it means."
--Yu-Gi-Oh! The Movie
Lonely Wolf
05-09-2005, 09:03 AM
Kaiba is cool, but they need to quit dubbing all his good lines.
grrrrrrrrrrrr
Oracle of Dreams
05-09-2005, 09:35 AM
Kaiba thinks Yugi needs to get a hobby?? This coming from a boy who spent millions to publically crush Yugi at Duel Monsters (ref. the original Japanese manga), sponsored an entire freakin' tournament just to reclaim his title as #1 Duelist, and in the cartoon staunchly refuses to let up on his quest to trounce Yugi and prove his superiority?
Man, this kid seriously needs a time out from card playing.
Well when you live in a world that is run by a trading card game, owning a company that produces that trading card game is actually a wise decision. He's like the Donald Trump of the YGO world. Nobody is out telling Donald Trump to get a hobby.
master of dark soul
05-10-2005, 07:03 PM
i want a dime for every time that atem say destiny i be like a billionarlol
fusion duelist
05-11-2005, 02:51 AM
Well when you live in a world that is run by a trading card game, owning a company that produces that trading card game is actually a wise decision. He's like the Donald Trump of the YGO world. Nobody is out telling Donald Trump to get a hobby.
Industrial Illusions owns the rights to Duel Monsters, it is owned by Pegasus, but the game would not be played by everyone and their grandpa without KibaCorps holographic technology.
-BlackMagician-
05-14-2005, 10:25 AM
Ha, Seto's extremely funny in the dub XD
cyber ape
05-14-2005, 12:41 PM
Dub Kaiba is an inconsiderate pigheaded *******. The original Kaiba was not like that at all.
All of Kaiba's lines in the new eps disgust me.
Weren't they always stupid?
Yeah, the dub exaggerates on every character.
Oh well...
Nobody
05-14-2005, 12:54 PM
Weren't they always stupid?
Yeah, the dub exaggerates on every character.
Oh well...
Imagine the Dub GX....
jinzojinzo
05-14-2005, 01:04 PM
Haha, Kaiba likes to keep things down to earth.
blackpaladin87
05-14-2005, 03:21 PM
Still an unbeliever, eh?
Remember when Kaiba was justifying his attack on the Mirror Knights to Yugi?
"They're still holograms, and I know how you manipulated them, Dartz!"
As taken from Janime, the Japanese dialogue.
Kaiba: "We have overcome all of this and have come this far! What is in my heart...is the light that will carve out our future! That is all we need!"
Yugi: "Kaiba..."
Kaiba: [pointing to Mirror Knights] "If they are true duelists, they should have no regrets when they fall! Strike down everything, Mirror Force Dragon! Genocide Big Bang!"
IMO, much better than that "hologram" broken record speech.
He's also less self-centered...
Kaiba: (after he activates his LP-restoring trap and collapses) "Now...I have repaid my debt... you must press on, over ... my remains..."
Dub Kaiba: "You have to win, Yugi. I've fought too hard and too far to let it end here." (or something to that effect).
Much more inspiring and much less egocentric.
nightspade
05-14-2005, 08:53 PM
Still an unbeliever, eh?
Remember when Kaiba was justifying his attack on the Mirror Knights to Yugi?
"They're still holograms, and I know how you manipulated them, Dartz!"
As taken from Janime, the Japanese dialogue.
Kaiba: "We have overcome all of this and have come this far! What is in my heart...is the light that will carve out our future! That is all we need!"
Yugi: "Kaiba..."
Kaiba: [pointing to Mirror Knights] "If they are true duelists, they should have no regrets when they fall! Strike down everything, Mirror Force Dragon! Genocide Big Bang!"
IMO, much better than that "hologram" broken record speech.
He's also less self-centered...
Kaiba: (after he activates his LP-restoring trap and collapses) "Now...I have repaid my debt... you must press on, over ... my remains..."
Dub Kaiba: "You have to win, Yugi. I've fought too hard and too far to let it end here." (or something to that effect).
Much more inspiring and much less egocentric.
yeah, but that ego of Kaiba's is something we've all come to love... or possibly loathe. And every character on the show is a broken record.
Heero Yuy
05-14-2005, 10:11 PM
Yami: (Of arriving at Dartz's lair.) We have arrived at the heart of darkness.
Kaiba: Must you always be so dramatic?
Kaiba: (When Yami plans to take down Dartz.) Stop saving the world for once and get a hobby!
Kaiba: (After Yami tells him it's his destiny to help take down Dartz) If I had a dime for every time you said the word 'destiny', I'd be even richer.
I have only recently noticed how 'real' Kaiba is. What do you think?
Kaiba, yeah he keeps it real man.
Tyrant Dragon #2
05-15-2005, 10:30 AM
What I find hilarious is that most of these peopel commenting how the 'superiority' of the original probably gets these so-called lines from subtitled episodes.
For those who didn't know, pretty much all non-movie Japanese DVD's with english subtitles are fake. This includes those with optional subtitles, not just those that have mandatory subtitles.
yeah, but that ego of Kaiba's is something we've all come to love... or possibly loathe. And every character on the show is a broken record.
And don't forget, on this show they have crap such as people trying to take over the world with trading cards, cards that absorb people's souls, etc. Expecting quality is expecting too much of this show (ANY VERSION of this show)
nightspade
05-15-2005, 10:53 AM
And don't forget, on this show they have crap such as people trying to take over the world with trading cards, cards that absorb people's souls, etc. Expecting quality is expecting too much of this show (ANY VERSION of this show)
Uh... Are you a fan of this show or what?
KuroKarasu
05-15-2005, 11:03 AM
Uh... Are you a fan of this show or what?
I can see his angle on it; without the Sennen Items playing a part, it's just an advertisment.
They're supposed to contain/channel actual magic, though. Would you prefer chess to save the world?
Possum_the_Furry_Monarch
05-15-2005, 11:11 AM
Well IMO I think a combination of kaiba's witty comebacks and his serious japanese self woulda been better...cause then he could be funny by makin fun of yugi which is always a good thing yet serious when the time is right.
Horoko
05-15-2005, 11:39 AM
For those who didn't know, pretty much all non-movie Japanese DVD's with english subtitles are fake. This includes those with optional subtitles, not just those that have mandatory subtitles.
For the most part (Excluding card names and character names) the dialouge doesn't change that much. Also, some of the stuff posted is from Janime's site.
I can understand spoken Japanese so I really don't need subtitles, but they can be funny to read sometimes (Don't be joking XD)
TopDecking Samurai
05-16-2005, 12:45 AM
Dub Kaiba is an inconsiderate pigheaded *******. The original Kaiba was not like that at all.
All of Kaiba's lines in the new eps disgust me.
What the heck are you talking about thats why people like Kaiba so much, because of the way he is, you gotta love his style is bad ass!
Ryusaki
05-16-2005, 10:18 AM
Dub Kaiba is unlikable because of his personality. Anyway to the person who said the animé is just a card advertisment, you might wanna know it came out quite a while before the card game was made. And tha manga was made years before the card game came out.
MetallicPyreal
05-16-2005, 02:41 PM
What the heck are you talking about thats why people like Kaiba so much, because of the way he is, you gotta love his style is bad ass!
Dub Kaiba sucks compared to the original one. They took out all emotion and feeling to his character and replaced them with dumb one liners and insults. Why would someone like the way Kaiba is in the last few eps against Dartz? He's an ass. I didn't mind Dub Kaiba before the beginning of the Dartz duel, because he was tolerable. But his new lines are so stupid it's not funny.
TopDecking Samurai
05-16-2005, 10:49 PM
Dub Kaiba sucks compared to the original one. They took out all emotion and feeling to his character and replaced them with dumb one liners and insults. Why would someone like the way Kaiba is in the last few eps against Dartz? He's an ass. I didn't mind Dub Kaiba before the beginning of the Dartz duel, because he was tolerable. But his new lines are so stupid it's not funny.
You gotta think that they made him that way so more people would love to hate him. It works because a lot of people think he is funny!
Ryusaki
05-17-2005, 10:20 AM
Problem is, Kaiba wasn't supposed to be funny.
Yūgi's Black Magician
05-17-2005, 06:18 PM
Got a point their Ryusaki, Kaiba has become so stupid and selfish in the Animé, it's hard to believe his goal...
_Gaara_
05-18-2005, 05:51 PM
While I do agree on how Kaiba's attitude has changed from Japan's to ours, I like his style. Instead on just running his mouth, he gets straight to the point.
CBASS
05-18-2005, 07:22 PM
I know little bout the original Kaiba but I know he'd be a genious of a buisness man in the real world more so than in YuGiOh. He has the harshness, down to earth attitude of Oprah and Trump put together. I'd love to get an audio clip of kaiba saying "YOU'R FIRED" . I'd make that my computer start up music. haha
Horoko
05-18-2005, 08:02 PM
While I do agree on how Kaiba's attitude has changed from Japan's to ours, I like his style. Instead on just running his mouth, he gets straight to the point.
Uh, yeah he does get to the point...AFTER he runs on at the mouth...
nightspade
05-19-2005, 04:42 PM
Ok, I think the reason why Kaiba is such an @$$ in the dub is because Japanese and American cultures are different. The Japanese do not like rudeness, not that we do, but we are more accustomed to it, so Kaiba is much more mellow in the original so the Japanese audience will like him and he is more of an @$$ in the dub because most of us can brush it off and still like Kaiba.
Then again, what do I know? I've never seen the original and I know jack-diddly about Japanese culture other than what I know from books. I do know that their culture promtes patience, but that's it.
Ryusaki
05-20-2005, 10:04 AM
And don't forget, on this show they have crap such as people trying to take over the world with trading cards, cards that absorb people's souls, etc. Expecting quality is expecting too much of this show (ANY VERSION of this show)
Who's betting this guy hasn't seen the original? *hand up*
Immortal_Yata
05-20-2005, 03:02 PM
Ya I agree with nightspade..Being in America is extremely different compared being in Japan.
UnderCoverFanGirl
04-17-2010, 05:23 PM
That's my boy. Always the cynic.
blacktrance
04-17-2010, 05:29 PM
Perhaps this is nostalgia speaking, but I prefer dub Kaiba.
13eyond13irthday
04-17-2010, 09:47 PM
Wow. A 5-year necrobump? =\
Fook123
04-19-2010, 10:47 PM
Wow. A 5-year necrobump? =\
This is why Necro Gaurdna is limited to one.
Joenen
04-19-2010, 11:42 PM
lol, necro bump.
on topic I like dub kaiba.
necrobump
Aichi Sendo
04-22-2010, 12:17 AM
Thank you for letting me relive a topic from when I was young. XD
On topic:
I hate Dub Kaiba.
necrobump
BEWDMaster
04-22-2010, 10:57 AM
i like the combos of kaiba both work well
i just liek the good lines form the dubed and the japanesse had a mroe humble kaiba after battle city but he was still a lttle bit of a jerk even in the unduebd yugioh
Blues
04-23-2010, 07:33 AM
Dub Kaiba was fantastic. As much I loved the original, Kaiba was hilarious.
...ORE NO TURN ORE NO TURN ORE NO TURN.
Dub Kaiba was actually pretty decent. Enough joke video fodder. Nothing beats our Still Krabby though.
Jynxsan
04-24-2010, 04:26 AM
LOL. I am going say some of the lines both dubbed and the original should be merged. As for the opening Pharoah needs a new hobby is a good one. Kaiba is pragmatic and I am sure he is tired saving the world and what not.
Katoshi Marusame
04-28-2010, 11:27 PM
Wow, yeah this is a necro bump from the underworld :D, and btw I am a major major kaiba fan, and the dub Kaiba was alright, at first. But eventually he got really annoying, so much so I wanted to kill him and destroy his company. Now the original Mature Businessman Kaiba is awesome!!!
Jynxsan
04-29-2010, 03:51 AM
I will admit that I miss the original series.
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