Tupac Shakur

[fredisgreat]

Any fans of his work, or any one who hates him, I just wanna get an overall pojo reaction to one of the most infullencial men, not in rap, but of all time. I love him, I've heard almost every song he's made, and he's so good at rapping, that some times I get shivers down my spine when I hear him.

[xeverex18]

i dono his music. only like mnm

[GundamGuy_UK]

What makes him one of the most influential men of all time, then? I've barely even heard of him

[Kid_Buu]

I am a large fan of 2Pac's work but I disagree with him being the most influential. Out of all Rappers/Groups in History, NWA would be at the top. Straight Outta' Compton comes in as the most influential Rap album of all time, with titles of certain tracks I can't mention here. 2Pac is still a very good rapper.. I have heard all of his music, every last track, me and my friend would used to spend all day at his house listening to CD after CD. I have also heard easially over 50 of his unstated works.

[Greg]

California love is one of the best summer anthems ever.

[O_Master]

Tupac is a very influential man.

As for his music, he his without a doubt the best rapper to ever live. All of his songs were AMAZING, had a message in his songs and weren't just about sex, money, and drugs every time. No rapper compared to him. ESPECIALLY not these new so-called rappers like 50 Cent and such.


O_Master

[meteoraclown]

he's not as well known as he was before because all this new gangsta rap and stuff. his prime time was like the late 80's early 90's until he died. he had a message in all of his works. all this new rubbish is all about drugs, sex, money, and killing people, so yea. i mostly listen to undergorund hip-hop know.

[Kid_Buu]

Lets bounce again.

California love is one of the best summer anthems ever.

Don't forget, this was not 2Pac alone, Dr. Dre was involved. So I wouldn't count it as his very own work.

he's not as well known as he was before because all this new gangsta rap and stuff.

Gangsta Rap began in the 80's, Gangsta Rap came before 2Pac, N.W.A are the only true Gangsta Rap IMO because they are the only group of rappers that were ever actually united as rappers in a gang and grew up in Compton at the height of gang violence. And all of these modern day rappers who call themselves gangstas are simply thugs, there is a difference between thugs and gangstas. A good example of a true Gangsta Song would be Boyz in Tha Hood by Eazy E. So on a simpler level, all of the drug/sex/gang talk is nothing new, N.W.A were rapping about these kind of things way before 50 Cent even existed. As for 2Pac being Gangsta Rap? They class him as this because he was a thug, like I said, there is a difference, and true Gangsta Rap did not send positive messages across in songs. 2Pac is very... I'd say ''thuggish'' rap. But Gangsta Rap, sorry Pac, but no coconut.

[Mushroom Pie]

Umm... I have a general distaste for rap in general, so I can't honestly say that I'm fond of him. I don't think I've actually heard any of his songs, though, so my opinion is very generalized. From what is being said in this thread though, I can tell I'd at least like his stuff for not being infested with sex, drugs, and alcohol. Beyond that, though, if it's still fast, rythmic talking, I doubt I'd particularly enjoy it.

[fredisgreat]

yeah, thats a lot of people's oppionion, and don't get me wrong, I'm not in the least mad or any thing, but just to play the devil's advocate here: Metal music is hard to hear over screams and screams, and as far as the the words being too fast, well if a Rap song last as long as a rock or metal song and the Rap song has more words, then isn't like ur getting more for you money, or so to speak.

[Greg]

Tupac was an excelent rapper, i wsih some of the crap in the UK was half as good.

[fredisgreat]

Ah yes, he was the best of all time (except for me, that is). It's always the good ones that die young.

[Greg]

do you freestyle fred ?, do you write raps ?

[Kid_Buu]

''Ah yes, he was the best of all time (except for me, that is)''

Looking for a challenge? I'm the next Eazy E, I can assure you. :p

[Yami_Malik]

Um, never heard of him.

[TopDecking Samurai]

Tupac was great! to bad he had to die for stupid and troublesome things. The same goes for the notorious B.I.G. The thing that gets me is all the crap that is rap and hip hop right now with all the inapropiate comments and nonsense is not even worth buying a cd anymore. The last rap album I got was The great depression by DMX.

[MyOwnImij]

Big fan! He is the greatest of all time....and he would teach you something about life...if you chose to listen.
Has anyone heard/read his poetry? Or his interviews talking about life? He was a very deep thinker.

[Blayze Ciddy]

Meh, he was good, I'll give him that. But the thing about all those old so-called "Gangsta Rappers" were just that. Common gangsters. Had Tupac not tried to been gangster and been involved with the gangs and whatnot then he wouldnt've died. I'm only 15 now so I'm prolly too young to remember any of his raps, but alot of them are memorable enough to even be great classics at this point and time. If he wouldn't have run with the gang, jumped that guy, shot this guy, did this, did that then he'd still be living. Im being completely unbiased when I say that Tupac was not a good person. All "good people" who end up dying young usually had somthing pretty bad on the side.

[JAY BEE]

hey not all modern rap is all about sex, drugs, and clubs.

eminem has numerous works that go wayy deeper than that. you should listen to his latest cd. "mocking bird" is really emotional.

[Decay]

And then the rest of the tracks on Eminem's new CD are just nonsense rhyming.

2 Pac was great, yeah...but he's a bit overrated for my tastes.

Nas, IMO, is the best.

[JAY BEE]

And then the rest of the tracks on Eminem's new CD are just nonsense rhyming.

actually, "toy soldiers" was a very good song.

[Blayze Ciddy]

Look, we can all agree on one thing, most of eminem's record was stupid. Heres a qute from one of the songs

"Is it gay, to play putt putt golf with a friend?
and watch his butt butt when he tees off
bu-ut I aint done yet
In football a quarterback yells out hutt hutt
while he reaches in another grown mans ass
grabs on his nuts but just what if
it was never meant it was just an accident
but he trip, fell, slipped and his ***** went in
a teeny tiny little round hiney...."

wtf? Tupac would never been on anything gay like that

[Peace of Apple Pi]

Look, we can all agree on one thing, most of eminem's record was stupid. Heres a qute from one of the songs

"Is it gay, to play putt putt golf with a friend?
and watch his butt butt when he tees off
bu-ut I aint done yet
In football a quarterback yells out hutt hutt
while he reaches in another grown mans ass
grabs on his nuts but just what if
it was never meant it was just an accident
but he trip, fell, slipped and his ***** went in
a teeny tiny little round hiney...."

wtf? Tupac would never been on anything gay like that
I see some people fail to see how some songs are supposed to be purely for humor.

[zarf]

Love Tupac, great rapper.

[Blayze Ciddy]

I see some people fail to see how some songs are supposed to be purely for humor.
Oh no, I saw that it was for humor. Hell, I laughed my ass off when I first heard it but I was just comparing him to Tupac

[fredisgreat]

I think that an Eminem/Tupac comparison can be a good thing, in one way yes they are quite differant, 'Pac never really did any thing "funny" like Eminem. But they are compared to each other in alot of ways, in one way, both of the things they rap about seem "legit". they don't seem like when every rapper in the world says "I came up from the ghetto and now I'm great.

BTW kidBuu:

I Shoot you up like I was vietnam vet/ by 'round 6:30, I'll be higher than Saddams debt/ you catch me in the hood straight representin'/ I'll Have you on ur knees, Like I was Bill Clinton/

[Greg]

Eminem writes about his life and his up bringing, Tupac wrote about the streets and how it was to be a young black man in america