Power Levels

[jackleone50]

Does anyone know a website that has the power levels for the characters in DBZ and GT?

[LMR Star]

Just do a google search for dragonball z power levels.

[jackleone50]

i tried and couldnt find anything

[LMR Star]

DBZ power levels (http://www.myfavoritegames.com/dragonball-z/Info/Dragonball-Z-PowerLevels.htm)

[jackleone50]

thanks for the info

[Xssj2GohanX]

I won't provide an external link to one because I have never seen a set of power levels for the cell and buu sagas that I felt was accurate. I could provide a list that I compiled if you want.

From that link that LMR provided, I see several things that are incorrect. To name a few:
PSSJ GOku against Cell had a higher PL than USSJ Trunks put out against Vegeta.

And Trunks was not THAT much stronger than Vegeta was in his USSJ form.

SSJ Goten and Trunks are not stronger than USSJ Vegeta against Cell.

Another one is that Good Buu was less than half as strong as Fat Buu, meaning that Evil Buu would be a little more than half of Fat Buu's power.

SSJ3 Gotenks is a bit stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Gohan after his powerup is FAR stronger than Super Buu, and Super Buu is stronger than Goku.

Vegetto is FAAAAAR more than less than double SSJ3 Goku's power.

Kid Buu is weaker than Super Buu. SSJ1 Goku is not as strong as SSJ3 Gotenks.

Kinda absurd instances I pointed out.

[MooooooCow]

tons of power levels before the cell saga are wrong on that list. Jeice burter and recoome are all the same strength for example.

Link (http://www.unrivaled.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=4827)

Thats one a friend of mine did, all of the stated powerlevels are in there, and all of the later sagas are based on the levels that were stated early on.

[LMR Star]

No one knows the power levels for sure after the fight with freiza, but like xssj2gohanx said, I've never seen any two lists that are the same, so estimates are all I can give. To tell you the truth I had never seen that list until I about 5 min. before I gave it.

But the pojo dbz section has power levels.

[MyOwnImij]

This is POJO (http://www.pojo.com/dragonball/power.shtml), try the guide on this site.

[Piccolo]

tons of power levels before the cell saga are wrong on that list. Jeice burter and recoome are all the same strength for example.

Link (http://www.unrivaled.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=4827)

Thats one a friend of mine did, all of the stated powerlevels are in there, and all of the later sagas are based on the levels that were stated early on.

That power level link you posted is horrible, I'd like to see Gohans version, I'm sure its a lot more accurate then that, your friend did not even use the officail powerlevels before android saga.

[94_BLOCK]

http://www.dbzgtlegacy.com/powerlevels.shtml

it only shows up to the cell saga but i don't know if it is accurate
i think it didn't matter after the cell saga because everybody had a high power level you just got to judge on how they fight each other

[MooooooCow]

That power level link you posted is horrible, I'd like to see Gohans version, I'm sure its a lot more accurate then that, your friend did not even use the officail powerlevels before android saga.

And which levels are wrong?

POJO's are horrible, they don't even follow the stated levels, implied levels, or common sense

[LMR Star]

Are the power levels in the sagas game correct?

[Xssj2GohanX]

And which levels are wrong?

Ok. Sure. Where do I begin.
1. 20 was significantly weaker than 19
2. Piccolo was not as strong as a ssj prior to his kamisama fusion
3. 16 was stronger than imperfect cell after absorbing humans. He was a fail-safe.
4. USSJ Vegeta and Trunks were not almost double 2nd form Cell's power.
5. USSJ Vegeta's PL does not exceed his max just because he is releasing his strongest attack.
6. Trunks and Vegeta did not increase by 50% after their 2nd round of training before the cell games.
7. Perfect Cell against Gohan in the beginning of the fight is not 5 times as strong as android 16. If he were, he would easily be able to break out of the hold that 16 got him in.
8. Goten and Trunks as ssj's were not 3 times android 18's power, and they were not nearly the level of USSJ Vegeta from the cell saga.
9. Kaioshin is not stronger than Goten and Trunks as ssj's. If he were, the Kibitoshin fusion would be stronger than ssj3 gotenks.
10. Spopovich was able to utilize ki. That alone would raise his PL far more than just 62.
11. Dabura is stated to be stronger than Cell.
12. Super Buu is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks a little. He was not focusing and stressing during the battle. He was thinking of Gohan.
13. Vegetto was far stronger than Super Buu 3 in his ssj1 form.

So how's that for accurate.

[Piccolo]

And which levels are wrong?

POJO's are horrible, they don't even follow the stated levels, implied levels, or common sense

That link you posted does not follow the stated levels, I believe Pojo's do, last time I looked at them atleast.

[maph]

isnt 16 stronger then 17? if so then 17 is about as strong as piccolo after kami fused which is stronger then imperfect cell after absorbing humans. putting 16 at about 2nd form cells power. if not then how was 16 able to grab perfect cell and keep the hold?

[Xssj2GohanX]

16 is stronger than 17, who is in turn about equal to Piccolo if not a bit weaker. 16 is stronger than Imperfect Cell after absorbing bio-extract. But 16 is not as powerful as 2nd Form Cell.

[maph]

oops i misread your earlier post. i thought it said 16 was not stronger then imperfect cell after absorbing life extract. my bad.

[MooooooCow]

Ok. Sure. Where do I begin.
1. 20 was significantly weaker than 19
2. Piccolo was not as strong as a ssj prior to his kamisama fusion
3. 16 was stronger than imperfect cell after absorbing humans. He was a fail-safe.
4. USSJ Vegeta and Trunks were not almost double 2nd form Cell's power.
5. USSJ Vegeta's PL does not exceed his max just because he is releasing his strongest attack.
6. Trunks and Vegeta did not increase by 50% after their 2nd round of training before the cell games.
7. Perfect Cell against Gohan in the beginning of the fight is not 5 times as strong as android 16. If he were, he would easily be able to break out of the hold that 16 got him in.
8. Goten and Trunks as ssj's were not 3 times android 18's power, and they were not nearly the level of USSJ Vegeta from the cell saga.
9. Kaioshin is not stronger than Goten and Trunks as ssj's. If he were, the Kibitoshin fusion would be stronger than ssj3 gotenks.
10. Spopovich was able to utilize ki. That alone would raise his PL far more than just 62.
11. Dabura is stated to be stronger than Cell.
12. Super Buu is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks a little. He was not focusing and stressing during the battle. He was thinking of Gohan.
13. Vegetto was far stronger than Super Buu 3 in his ssj1 form.

So how's that for accurate.

I was talking about the stated levels, but i'll bite on some of the points you raised. I realize some of the others aren't as accurate as they could be because they're based off the original levels way back in the series.

1. I don't have that volume with me, but i don't remember 19 stated as being > 20.

2. I don't really agree with it either, but piccolo has to be quite a bit stronger than the androids, and the androids have to be somewhere around furizas power.

3. 16 was stated equal to cell

4. Why wouldn't trunks and vegeta be that stronger than cell? Vegeta smacks imperfect cell around like he's nothing.

5. Again, why would vegetas power not rise when releasing his strongest attack, when goku's does, and piccolo's also.

6. Proof to the contrary? Again, They're going to get a substantial boost, and goku says they have room to improve

7. He does easily break 16's hold, he blows him to pieces

9. why? kibito is weak

10. Videl isn't that strong, and she hurts him. He can't be strong at all

11 dabura is said to be around the level of cell, goku then says that because of magic it is going to be more difficult. If SSJ goku can fight with him, and goku's kili reading ass SSJ is implied as stronger than him, he can't be that strong.

12. we had this argument before and there just isn't enough evidence either way.

13. Then why use SSJ2 at all?

[MooooooCow]

well since this wonderful forum ate everything i was going to say to gohan, i'll just do pojo's. I was talking about the stated levels only.

Raditz has two powerlevels at the start of Z for starters, but he's said to be the same power as the cultivars, 12,000.

For the saiya-jin battle, piccolo tells gohan that gohans stronger than him. Thus gohans highest attack is stronger than piccolo. And gohans masenko is read at 2,800

by the definition of kaio-ken, kaio-ken one and two bai have to wield the same increase.

Gohan and kuririn were read as 1500 against furizas henchmen

Kui is equal to vegeta on earth, 18,000, not 20,000. Vegeta is 24,000, doduria's scouter did not break. Thus he is 24,000 against dodoria and first form zarbon. He's probably only in the low 30,000's after that.

Gohan and kurirn are only stated over 10,000. Vegeta isn't stronger than nail at this point. The guinyu force estimates are probably alot lower. Recoome buurta and jeice are stated equal.

Niether goku or ginyu "figure out" the others bodies. Vegeta is nowhere close to form one furiza. Vegeta is fully exerted after their fight while furiza isn't. Furiza form 2 is over a million, not one million.

Piccolo is stronger than form 2 furiza. Vegeta is far stronger than form 2 furiza or piccolo after being healed. Piccolo can't even see furiza's blasts, but vegeta can.

Mirai Trunks is stated as strong as SSJ goku on namek.

[Piccolo]

I remember their being official power levels up until the Android Saga, in the Dazienaen or however its spelt, and yours do not match up with them at all.

[maph]

2. I don't really agree with it either, but piccolo has to be quite a bit stronger than the androids, and the androids have to be somewhere around furizas power.


uh huh? piccolo is equal with 17. trunks stated that these androids were stronger then the ones in his timeline. trunks easily beat freiza, then babbled on about how horribly strong HIS timeline androids were. these ones are even stronger, putting them well above and beyond freizas power level.

[Xssj2GohanX]

We were talkin about Piccolo before his fusion.

[Dark_Ryushin]

The whole powerlevel thing is wrong, A.T. should have went a 4 way consideration for each character, like they did with Yu Yu Hakasho.

There should 4 different levels to measure.

Power or overall damage

Durability or Toughness

Agility

Skill or Technique (the overall experience as a fighter)

These are the four ways to determine who would win a fight, but A.T. said "I'll make it so that all four are contributed together or just focus on power, because that is what the people wanna see".

Raditz vs. Farmer:
Raditz: Power Level 1,200
Agility Level 1,000
Durability Level 1,200
Skill Level 1,000

Farmer: Power Level 5
Agility Level 4
Durability Level 3
Skill Level 1

Raditzu vs. Goku & Piccolo:
Raditz: Power Level 1,200
Agility Level 1,000
Durability Level 1,200
Skill Level 1,000

Piccolo (with weighted clothes): Power Level 322, 1330 Makankosappo
Agility Level 350
Durability Level 300
Skill Level 500
Piccolo (without weighted clothes): Power Level 408, 1440 Makankosappo
Agility Level 700
Durability Level 400
Skill Level 500


Goku (with weighted clothes): Power Level 334
Agility Level 360
Durability Level 350
Skill Level 540
Goku (without weighted clothes): Power Level 416, 1030 Kamehameha
Agility Level 720
Durability Level 450
Skill Level 540

Gohan: Power Level 1, 1307 Anger
Agility Level 2, 1500
Durability Level 5, 1000
Skill Level 10

After The Battle:
Master-Roshi: Power Level 139
Agility Level 130
Durability Level 120
Skill Level 1000

Turtle: Power Level 0.001
Agility Level 0.001
Durability Level 200
Skill Level 20

Krillin: Power Level 206
Agility Level 200
Durability Level 170
Skill Level 300

Tien: Power Level 250
Agility Level 280
Durability Level 250
Skill Level 400

Yamcha: Power Level 177
Agility Level 210
Durability Level 210
Skill Level 250

Piccolo: Power Level 329
Agility Level 360
Durability Level 320
Skill Level 600

[Xssj2GohanX]

These are the four ways to determine who would win a fight, but A.T. said "I'll make it so that all four are contributed together or just focus on power, because that is what the people wanna see".

When they measure "power level" it is a measure of the intensity of the ki that the body is surrounded by. This is the heat/electrical output. That is the ONLY thing that power level measures. But this is a better judge than you might think because this ki influences almost everything about fighting. For example, every movement such as a swing of the arm is backed up by thousands of tons of force from the ki. So it is this intensity of the ki that increases speed, agility, raw strength, and energy blast intensities.

[Chaos_Theory]

well since this wonderful forum ate everything i was going to say to gohan, i'll just do pojo's. I was talking about the stated levels only.

Raditz has two powerlevels at the start of Z for starters, but he's said to be the same power as the cultivars, 12,000.

For the saiya-jin battle, piccolo tells gohan that gohans stronger than him. Thus gohans highest attack is stronger than piccolo. And gohans masenko is read at 2,800

by the definition of kaio-ken, kaio-ken one and two bai have to wield the same increase.

Gohan and kuririn were read as 1500 against furizas henchmen

Kui is equal to vegeta on earth, 18,000, not 20,000. Vegeta is 24,000, doduria's scouter did not break. Thus he is 24,000 against dodoria and first form zarbon. He's probably only in the low 30,000's after that.

Gohan and kurirn are only stated over 10,000. Vegeta isn't stronger than nail at this point. The guinyu force estimates are probably alot lower. Recoome buurta and jeice are stated equal.

Niether goku or ginyu "figure out" the others bodies. Vegeta is nowhere close to form one furiza. Vegeta is fully exerted after their fight while furiza isn't. Furiza form 2 is over a million, not one million.

Piccolo is stronger than form 2 furiza. Vegeta is far stronger than form 2 furiza or piccolo after being healed. Piccolo can't even see furiza's blasts, but vegeta can.

Mirai Trunks is stated as strong as SSJ goku on namek.

Raditz=1,200