Fear Factory

[Dark Ruler Ha Des]

No, not the over-the-top show, the brilliant LA-based metal band. Any fans here?

I can't wait for their new cd this summer!

[McRath]

(Criket's start to chirp) and who are they? :confused:

[Dark Ruler Ha Des]

They are one of the most innovative bands ever... They created the whole sing-scream formula.

www.fearfactory.com (http://www.fearfactory.com)

One of my personal favorite bands too.

[Linzoy]

I haven't listened to them much, but I know they say they've been influenced by gary numan, so they must be good.

[GooberGrape513]

Meh, I stopped listening to that kind of genre of metal after I discovered better bands....

[Hero of Time]

I listen to better metal. A7X forever.

[McRath]

Disturbed o yeah no offense

[GooberGrape513]

I listen to better metal. A7X forever.
Disturbed o yeah no offense
LMFAO.

The irony is just too funny.


If you think that is metal, you REALLY need to rethink your musical liking....

LMAO. Sorry, it is just too funny.

[sixersballernum3]

Don't listen to them....

Metal-wise, I'm more into Rammstein

All around, SOAD.

[Hero of Time]

LMFAO.

The irony is just too funny.


If you think that is metal, you REALLY need to rethink your musical liking....

LMAO. Sorry, it is just too funny.

Hey man, if my iPod says it's metal than it's metal damnit.

[Gotenkz1025]

Bleh. They had one good song, and it was just mediocre. Rammstein! \m/

EDIT - 1025th post! Woo!

[GooberGrape513]

Hey man, if my iPod says it's metal than it's metal damnit.

LMFAO. LMFAO. LMFAO.

OMG!!!!

HAHAHA. Apple is the dumbest company ever. HAHAH.

iPods suck. Battery only lasts 18 months. LMFAO HAHAHAH.

OMFG!!!!11111

n00b!!!!elevenTHIRTYtwo111!!!!1

Oh man.....HAHAHHA. That is the funniest thing I have ever heard.

[Hero of Time]

LMFAO. LMFAO. LMFAO.

OMG!!!!

HAHAHA. Apple is the dumbest company ever. HAHAH.

iPods suck. Battery only lasts 18 months. LMFAO HAHAHAH.

OMFG!!!!11111

n00b!!!!elevenTHIRTYtwo111!!!!1

Oh man.....HAHAHHA. That is the funniest thing I have ever heard.

I would bet that the iPod is the best MP3 on the market. Pfft. screw you anyways. You probably don't know anything about electronics anyway.

[GooberGrape513]

I would bet that the iPod is the best MP3 on the market. Pfft. screw you anyways. You probably don't know anything about electronics anyway.

LMFAO.

If you say so......

[Linzoy]

This thread isn't about ipods. If you don't like ipods, don't buy one. Alright?

This is a message board. The point is to communicate with other people. After you state your opinion, explain your reasoning. No more "LOL DISTURBED SUX!!!" That doesn't help.

Fear factory is really part of the subgenre nu metal. (Or aggro metal.) I like to think that the "nu" part was derived from gary numan, I don't really know where it comes from but gary numan rules. As far as this type of music goes NIN is the best though. This is the teaser for their new album. (http://nin.com/visuals/with_teeth_teaser.html)

[sixersballernum3]

*sigh*

iPod, Dell DJ, whatever it is...all the same......(DJ cheaper though)

But that's beisdes the point.

I didn't know NIN was coming out with a new album. I'll have to check that out.

Also, while on the topic of metal, Rammstein will be releasing a new Keine Lust single...check out all new news here (http://www.herzeleid.com)

Fear Factory....just searched for it online, heard some music...they're not awesome, but ehy're not bad.

I might have to check out their new CD.

[Linzoy]

Yeah it's called with teeth, I don't know when it's going to be out but the new single the hand that feeds is hitting the radio on march 21st. Most radio stations have claimed to be playing it already but they're lying. They do that a lot. There are also a lot of fake versions of it on the internet. But the real thing won't be out until march 21st.

I have a friend who's totally obsessed with rammstein, I just think they're ok.

[McRath]

LMFAO. LMFAO. LMFAO.

OMG!!!!

HAHAHA. Apple is the dumbest company ever. HAHAH.

iPods suck. Battery only lasts 18 months. LMFAO HAHAHAH.

OMFG!!!!11111

n00b!!!!elevenTHIRTYtwo111!!!!1

Oh man.....HAHAHHA. That is the funniest thing I have ever heard.









Dude what is your deal don't be dissing on my band just because you like green day or moroon five or what ever the hell they are you seriously don't know what metal is and you obviously have no sence in music you most likly think that Britney Spear's is metal knowing your additude so don't bust on other people's band's try to lisen to there music before you speak :mad:

[sixersballernum3]

Oh come ON guys.

*sigh*

One guy says Disturbed is metal. Just because Goodber notes that they aren't we have a huge fight. Please just stop.

Don't feed this fire with more wood.

Anyways.

@Linzoy- I'll definately be listening for that one.

As to Rammstein, it is rather hard to get into. I myself thought it was a little odd, and didn't really like it at first, but after I listened to it for a while I got into it. I commend you for somehwta liking them, heh.

With teeth, and The Hand That Feeds? Now that you mention it, I'v eprobably heard one of those fake copies of the single. I'll keep my eyes and ears open for this new material.

[GooberGrape513]

Dude what is your deal don't be dissing on my band just because you like green day or moroon five or what ever the hell they are you seriously don't know what metal is and you obviously have no sence in music you most likly think that Britney Spear's is metal knowing your additude so don't bust on other people's band's try to lisen to there music before you speak :mad:

I have more metal in one of my farts, than you do in your entire body. Hell, I know more about classic and metal than anyone one here.

Have you listened to say, Cream? Pantera? RATM? Slayer? Tom Petty? Deep Purple? Toto? Steve Vai? Joe Satriani? Steppenwolf? Spiderbait? Dio? Rush? Motley Crue? Zeppelin? Hendrix? Iron Maiden? Guns N' Roses? Clapton? CCR? AC/DC? Alice Cooper? BLS? Ozzy?

Oh no, you probably listen to all the nu metal crap. Which is probably right cause you like STRUBED and DA KNOT. Good choice in music....

Now please, sit down, son. Because obviously you have no chance in winning this considering you have no spelling or grammar skills.


Anyways, Rammstein owns. NIN....ehhh....shouldn't they have died out?

EDIT:
I have heard Distubed, they are no way metal or anywhere close to being a top band.

[Vegeta is the Best]

Aren't they the band that sings "Bite the hand that bleeds" from the movie Saw? Wait....yeah, I think that is them. They are ok.

[McRath]

I have more metal in one of my farts, than you do in your entire body. Hell, I know more about classic and metal than anyone one here.

Have you listened to say, Cream? Pantera? RATM? Slayer? Tom Petty? Deep Purple? Toto? Steve Vai? Joe Satriani? Steppenwolf? Spiderbait? Dio? Rush? Motley Crue? Zeppelin? Hendrix? Iron Maiden? Guns N' Roses? Clapton? CCR? AC/DC? Alice Cooper? BLS? Ozzy?

Oh no, you probably listen to all the nu metal crap. Which is probably right cause you like STRUBED and DA KNOT. Good choice in music....

Now please, sit down, son. Because obviously you have no chance in winning this considering you have no spelling or grammar skills.


Anyways, Rammstein owns. NIN....ehhh....shouldn't they have died out?

EDIT:
I have heard Distubed, they are no way metal or anywhere close to being a top band.





When did you become my computer teacher dude and, Tom petty some of the band's you just said aren't even metal



But you know what I'll be the bigger man and drop this flaming

[Blade Golem]

Don't listen to them....

Metal-wise, I'm more into Rammstein

All around, SOAD.

Rammstein is industrial, not metal.

[Blade Golem]

This thread isn't about ipods. If you don't like ipods, don't buy one. Alright?

This is a message board. The point is to communicate with other people. After you state your opinion, explain your reasoning. No more "LOL DISTURBED SUX!!!" That doesn't help.

Fear factory is really part of the subgenre nu metal. (Or aggro metal.) I like to think that the "nu" part was derived from gary numan, I don't really know where it comes from but gary numan rules. As far as this type of music goes NIN is the best though. This is the teaser for their new album. (http://nin.com/visuals/with_teeth_teaser.html)

For the record, Fear Factory were metal at one point, before they went in the nu-metal direction with their music.

Nu-metal is used because "Nu" means "no". Essentially: nu-metal, stuff that's called metal when it's not.

[GooberGrape513]

When did you become my computer teacher dude and, Tom petty some of the band's you just said aren't even metal



But you know what I'll be the bigger man and drop this flaming

I said I know more about CLASSIC ROCK and metal than anyone here.

Sheesh. Learn to read man.

Ok, I am done with owning you.

[McRath]

I said I know more about CLASSIC ROCK and metal than anyone here.

Sheesh. Learn to read man.

Ok, I am done with owning you.


owning *smirk* you own me hpm congradulaton's for you you own me at least you have somthing

[GooberGrape513]

owning *smirk* you own me hpm congradulaton's for you you own me at least you have somthing

That makes no sense at all.

Nu-metal is used because "Nu" means "no". Essentially: nu-metal, stuff that's called metal when it's not.

And because ******ed teens think that if you spell "new" like "nu" it gives something an edgier meaning.

[sixersballernum3]

In the immortal words of thesmartone....

goober, must you pwnz him that badly???

Hehehe. anyways, as to your little list of people, I feel inclined to say that I've listened to and am a fan of about 80% of that. Woo, go me.

\m/m/ Motley Crue, Ozzy, Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly, all the old stuff...(as you said)\m/m/

[McRath]

That makes no sense at all.



And because ******ed teens think that if you spell "new" like "nu" it gives something an edgier meaning.



let me say this so you can understand me

At least you own me but it sure seem's like you don't own anything else

[GooberGrape513]

let me say this so you can understand me

At least you own me but it sure seem's like you don't own anything else

LMAO. At least I you used proper spelling that time.

If you say so man, if you say so.

I know for sure you don't know jack **** about me, except that I just owned you and what you listen to. So don't say **** if you don't know if it is correct or not. Hell, I am pretty sure we will never talk again after this.

LMAO. I give up. This is completely pointless.

sixersballernum3: Sweet. You have my respect, unlike SOME people.

[McRath]

You know jack **** about me to so who are you judging it was my fav band and you dissed them I never said they were the greatest then you come in hear and dis mine and another person's band like a jackass. Then you start a fight which was childish in the first place, and know your ending it and saying it was stupid after you started it in the first place. Your starting to act like Kerry man but you know what I will stop the fight
because I am a bigger man then you! :mad:
back on the subject could antone give me a list of song's that this band has made

[Linzoy]

I have more metal in one of my farts, than you do in your entire body. Hell, I know more about classic and metal than anyone one here.

Have you listened to say, Cream? Pantera? RATM? Slayer? Tom Petty? Deep Purple? Toto? Steve Vai? Joe Satriani? Steppenwolf? Spiderbait? Dio? Rush? Motley Crue? Zeppelin? Hendrix? Iron Maiden? Guns N' Roses? Clapton? CCR? AC/DC? Alice Cooper? BLS? Ozzy?

Oh no, you probably listen to all the nu metal crap. Which is probably right cause you like STRUBED and DA KNOT. Good choice in music....

Now please, sit down, son. Because obviously you have no chance in winning this considering you have no spelling or grammar skills.


Anyways, Rammstein owns. NIN....ehhh....shouldn't they have died out?

EDIT:
I have heard Distubed, they are no way metal or anywhere close to being a top band.Why should NIN die out? They haven't had any hits for years, but they certainly aren't short of fans.

I don't like any of the hits very much actually. Head like a hole, closer, they're both kind of stupid. I didn't really like them until I heard the downward spiral.

[GooberGrape513]

Why should NIN die out? They haven't had any hits for years, but they certainly aren't short of fans.

I don't like any of the hits very much actually. Head like a hole, closer, they're both kind of stupid. I didn't really like them until I heard the downward spiral.

It just seemed strange that they would still be around after all these years. They are pretty good, but I thought their era at the top ended a long time ago. Same with all the other industrial metal bands, i.e. Smashing Pumpkins (well, they broke up, but you get my point).

[Blade Golem]

In the immortal words of thesmartone....

goober, must you pwnz him that badly???

Hehehe. anyways, as to your little list of people, I feel inclined to say that I've listened to and am a fan of about 80% of that. Woo, go me.

\m/m/ Motley Crue, Ozzy, Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly, all the old stuff...(as you said)\m/m/

Blasphemy! You forgot Judas Priest! :p

[Blade Golem]

That makes no sense at all.



And because ******ed teens think that if you spell "new" like "nu" it gives something an edgier meaning.

Yeah, that too. However, those are the ones who are ignorant enough to believe that "nu-metal" actually means "new metal" and is a sub-genre of metal.

[Blade Golem]

I said I know more about CLASSIC ROCK and metal than anyone here.

Sheesh. Learn to read man.

Ok, I am done with owning you.

Do you have MSN Messenger?

It's nice to find someone here who knows something about good music.

[GooberGrape513]

Do you have MSN Messenger?

It's nice to find someone here who knows something about good music.

Nah, I got AIM.

PM me and I will PM you it.

Well, technically it is a sub genre, but it isn't the metal that is TRUE metal, i.e. intricate solos.

Judas Priest is good, but their no Iron Maiden.

[Blade Golem]

Nah, I got AIM.

PM me and I will PM you it.

Well, technically it is a sub genre, but it isn't the metal that is TRUE metal, i.e. intricate solos.

Judas Priest is good, but their no Iron Maiden.

I don't have AIM, so don't worry about it.

Alternative rock isn't metal, so no, it's not a sub-genre of metal, at all. It's juust mis-labeled as that

And you're right, they are no Iron Maiden...they're BETTER.

[GooberGrape513]

I don't have AIM, so don't worry about it.

Alternative rock isn't metal, so no, it's not a sub-genre of metal, at all. It's juust mis-labeled as that

And you're right, they are no Iron Maiden...they're BETTER.


Ummm...nu metal isn't alternative. You have your genres of music mislabeled or mistaken. Alternative is like Weezer and Sound Garden.

I was never a big fan of Judas Priest so...yeah.

Also, nu metal can be looked as metal as long as you can accept the fact that they would rather play rhythmic melodies without the solos that get in the way. Nu metal is just the newer version of traditional metal. You're right, it isn't metal, but it certainly is a sub-genre of metal.

[TheOnlyStonedTowel]

Ok,first goober stop flaming other people, and your spamming on other peoples thread, this thread is about FEAR FACTORY not goober run his fatass mouth here....so if you want to talk about "how much you know about classic metal" then make yur own thread...

[GooberGrape513]

Ok,first goober stop flaming other people, and your spamming on other peoples thread, this thread is about FEAR FACTORY not goober run his fatass mouth here....so if you want to talk about "how much you know about classic metal" then make yur own thread...

Dude, I stopped the flaming.

I'm talking with Blade Golem.

Sheesh, **** and go listen to your emo.

[TheOnlyStonedTowel]

mmhmm sure, im listening to my HIM and Hawthorne Heights right now... HAHAHA!!! nah actually im listening to The Blach Dahlia Murder...so go listen to yur greenday u little punk...

[GooberGrape513]

mmhmm sure, im listening to my HIM and Hawthorne Heights right now... HAHAHA!!! nah actually im listening to The Blach Dahlia Murder...so go listen to yur greenday u little punk...

HAHAHAH. Greenday? LMAO.

Get a life and listen to some real metal.

"Oh man, did you hear of that SWEDISH metal band?? They own me!!"

LMAO. The first metal is rightfully owned by Britain, but was soon accepted by the American people, which later developed to traditional metal and that, my friend, is owned by the American music scene.

I'm a punk? But yet you know the names of some "hardcore" bands...? Interesting....it seems to be you're the little punk *****.

FYI, my sig was made in order to call attention to a certain mod....if that is why you think I am a "little punk."

[TheOnlyStonedTowel]

LMAO!, ok first what do u think is "real metal" what are you going to say rammstein or some other ***** foreign band LMAO

[Blade Golem]

Ummm...nu metal isn't alternative. You have your genres of music mislabeled or mistaken. Alternative is like Weezer and Sound Garden.

I was never a big fan of Judas Priest so...yeah.

Also, nu metal can be looked as metal as long as you can accept the fact that they would rather play rhythmic melodies without the solos that get in the way. Nu metal is just the newer version of traditional metal. You're right, it isn't metal, but it certainly is a sub-genre of metal.

Yes, it is. Nu-metal is a mis-labeled form of alternative rock.

Take alternative rock + a metal influence of some kind + "X" (random) influence, and you have nu-metal. For example, Korn is alternative rock + metal influence + hip-hop influence. Marilyn Manson is alternative rock + metal influence + industrial influence, etc, etc. I think you get the idea.

Fan of Priest or not, their influence and importance is huge.

And no, it can't be looked at as metal. Solos or not, the music simply isn't any kind of metal. Not to mention, the ideology behind it is different, too. Disreguard the second part if you're one of the people that doesn't feel that genres and sub-genres are defined at least partially by the ideology behind them.

"It isn't metal, but it is certainly a sub-genre of metal." That statement makes no sense, because if something is a sub-genre of metal, then it's part of metal.

[Blade Golem]

LMAO!, ok first what do u think is "real metal" what are you going to say rammstein or some other ***** foreign band LMAO

Try reading his posts...I didn't see Rammstein anywhere in his metal and classic rock list.

[GooberGrape513]

Yes, it is. Nu-metal is a mis-labeled form of alternative rock.

Take alternative rock + a metal influence of some kind + "X" (random) influence, and you have nu-metal. For example, Korn is alternative rock + metal influence + hip-hop influence. Marilyn Manson is alternative rock + metal influence + industrial influence, etc, etc. I think you get the idea.

Fan of Priest or not, their influence and importance is huge.

And no, it can't be looked at as metal. Solos or not, the music simply isn't any kind of metal. Not to mention, the ideology behind it is different, too. Disreguard the second part if you're one of the people that doesn't feel that genres and sub-genres are defined at least partially by the ideology behind them.

"It isn't metal, but it is certainly a sub-genre of metal." That statement makes no sense, because if something is a sub-genre of metal, then it's part of metal.

No, no, no. You are completely mixed up on all your arguments.

They have no alternative influences at all. MM has industrial and metal influences, but he is labeled as industrial. Korn has hip hop and metal influences, but labeled as nu metal because of the lack of complicated solos.

I have no disrespect of Judas Priest. I know what they have accomplished. I just said I wasn't a big fan.

The quote, I meant to say it isn't traditional metal, but is certainly a sub-genre OF metal.

You can't deny the fact that it resembles metal in one form or another, it just lacks the ideas of older metal bands.

EDIT:
Towelie guy: Umm...true metal is Metallica (old, the new stuff needs to be looked at seperately), Black Sabbath, Judas Preist (ahem), Ozzy, Zeppelin (not METAL, but one of the first metalish bands), Slayer (thrash metal).

There ya go, happy nub?

[Linzoy]

I always hated the word alternative. It could mean anything.

[Blade Golem]

No, no, no. You are completely mixed up on all your arguments.

They have no alternative influences at all. MM has industrial and metal influences, but he is labeled as industrial. Korn has hip hop and metal influences, but labeled as nu metal because of the lack of complicated solos.

I have no disrespect of Judas Priest. I know what they have accomplished. I just said I wasn't a big fan.

The quote, I meant to say it isn't traditional metal, but is certainly a sub-genre OF metal.

You can't deny the fact that it resembles metal in one form or another, it just lacks the ideas of older metal bands.

EDIT:
Towelie guy: Umm...true metal is Metallica (old, the new stuff needs to be looked at seperately), Black Sabbath, Judas Preist (ahem), Ozzy, Zeppelin (not METAL, but one of the first metalish bands), Slayer (thrash metal).

There ya go, happy nub?


No, I'm not getting my arguments mixed up.

To make it simple: The only way the music resembles metal is that it's heavy, and honestly, being heavy doesn't mean something is metal. Black Flag, Godflesh, etc. are proof of that.

[GooberGrape513]

No, I'm not getting my arguments mixed up.

To make it simple: The only way the music resembles metal is that it's heavy, and honestly, being heavy doesn't mean something is metal. Black Flag, Godflesh, etc. are proof of that.

Yes, but those are "hardcore" or "emocore" bands. They aren't nu metal. You are getting mixed up.

[Blade Golem]

Yes, but those are "hardcore" or "emocore" bands. They aren't nu metal. You are getting mixed up.

I'm aware that one of those is a hardcore band (I'm not sure what you'd label Godflesh as), I'm not saying that they're part of the same genre as the other band I mentioned. I'm saying that only resemblance nu-metal bands have to real metal is that they're heavy, and being heavy alone doesn't make them metal, as those bands from other genres have proven before since they were heavy, but clearly weren't metal.

[sixersballernum3]

Whoa, I like Fear Factory now...heh.

Dude Rammstein is not a **** foreign band.

They are a GOOD foreign band.

And yea...

[GooberGrape513]

I'm aware that one of those is a hardcore band (I'm not sure what you'd label Godflesh as), I'm not saying that they're part of the same genre as the other band I mentioned. I'm saying that only resemblance nu-metal bands have to real metal is that they're heavy, and being heavy alone doesn't make them metal, as those bands from other genres have proven before since they were heavy, but clearly weren't metal.

You just proved yourself wrong man. They RESEMBLE nu-metal bands, but AREN'T nu-metal. Like it or not, nu-metal is a sub-genre of metal and thousands(hell, maybe even millions) of others think the same.

[Blade Golem]

You just proved yourself wrong man. They RESEMBLE nu-metal bands, but AREN'T nu-metal. Like it or not, nu-metal is a sub-genre of metal and thousands(hell, maybe even millions) of others think the same.

No, I didn't. Resembling a genre in some way does not mean a band or bands is part of that genre, so nu-metal resembling metal in a way or two doesn't mean it's part of it. Black Flag had some material that resembled Black Sabbath. Does that mean they're a metal band and not a hardcore punk band? I don't think so. It's the same thing with nu-metal bands And let's not even start with the "ignorant masses say this or that, so it's true..." theory.

Actually, forget it. This argument is going nowhere. Agree to disagree?

[YGZone]

never really liked factory much tho ano sum1 who is mental on them.

[Dark Ruler Ha Des]

Damn, so much arguing over genres of music... Can't we just have MUSIC as the only genre and not ignore music because of it's classification?

[superman]

yeah ! I have a CD of fear factory!

like this song( dont know the name)remember the mortal kombat 1the movie,
scorpion vs johnny cage, that intro they use for that fight,

atleast that how the song began!

[The Catalyst]

In the immortal words of thesmartone....

goober, must you pwnz him that badly???

In all fairness... thesmartone stole that from my sig (seen below)... all he did was change the name and add a "z". So... it really should be more like "in the immortal words of Konoichi..."

But enough of that. Back to Fear Factory.

I'm not a huge fan of them, but I won't say they aren't decent. I considered buying their CD, which says something. What's that song... something like Archetype or something... I don't know. It's been a while since I've heard it, and I don't own the music... but that's quite an interesting song. Instrumentals run quickly, but the vocals seem to sing a slower song. I like that sort of speed trick.

"Look in to my eyes... and tell me what you see...
something real... THIS is real...
What you wish to be..."

Curious little chorus... meaning is a tad obscure (if existant), but it sure sounds cool. ^_^

As for music classification... I've never been one for genre-hairsplitting... I COULD use those classificational terms, but I choose not to. I simply know what I like when I hear it.

Oh, and for the record: Rammstein ROCKS. Especially when you know German.

[Blade Golem]

Damn, so much arguing over genres of music... Can't we just have MUSIC as the only genre and not ignore music because of it's classification?

Knowing the genres of music makes it alot easier to discuss it with people, since different people like different types of music. And who the hell is ignoring anything based on it's genre....? :confused:

[Dark Ruler Ha Des]

Knowing the genres of music makes it alot easier to discuss it with people, since different people like different types of music. And who the hell is ignoring anything based on it's genre....? :confused:

I never said you or anyone here was, but if you know anything about modern-day music culture and underground, you'd know that it happens alot.

[Blade Golem]

And there's probably a reason for that...some people just don't like certain genres of music, so it's fair to ignore it, rather than listen to it and hate it. Okay...that wasn't phrased too well, but I think you get what I mean.

[Trap Master]

Bumped for fanness!

I got their attention through 'Cyberwaste', a brilliant song back in 2004.

There are many good FF songs, but the current album sucks.