Help With Latios! (ShineyAltaria and Absol Please Help!!)

[BD25]

Well, I just found and caught my Latios on my Ruby Cartridge and I was wondering what moveset to give it. I thought that the Lati@s learned Dragon Claw naturally so I taught it to Salamence. I ALSO thought Dragon Claw was a physical attacking move (it just seems like it) and thought it would be useless on the Lati@s newayz. Pretty dumb of me =/ Now I need help with a moveset (I'm planning to use him in the Lvl. 50 Battle Tower alongside Metagross and Starmie. A Psychic Team.)

Latios @ ??? (Lum or Shell Bell maybe?)

Quiet (+Sp. Atk, -Spd)

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=/ I'm planning to do 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 4 Def.

I'm thinking of Psychic, Calm Mind, Recover, Surf/Thunderbolt. Unless I can get Dragon Claw there =/ Since I don't have Dragon Claw, do you think Ice Beam would be good? Is Calm Mind necessary? Please, ShineyA and Absol help!!

[Kuiper]

For BT, I use:

Latios@Soul dew
-Psychic
-Recover
-Thunderbolt
-Dragon Claw
*Modest nature, 252 SA/252 speed/6 HP

Don't use only Psychic and Dragon Claw for attacking, or you'll be vulnerable to steel types. You could use Psychic, Thunderbolt, Recover, and Calm Mind. Soul dew is what makes Latios broken, so use it if you can get it. Calm Mind once or twice, then sweep. You could also replace Recover with Ice beam/Surf. Psychic and Thunderbolt work well together, so you'll probably want to use them.

BTW, Bagon learns Dragon Claw at level 49.

[BD25]

Oh my lordy... This is what happens for my ignorance... =/ I guess

Latios @ something besides soul dew (I didn't get my Latios from Eon ticket)

Psychic
Recover
Thunderbolt
???

I'm thinking either: Calm Mind, Surf, Ice Beam. I'm so stupid... I should probably restart my game and start all over with my team =/

[shineyaltaria]

I agree with Fallen Ronin, as usual. My Latios was exactly what he posted (Item and moveset, and EV distribution). I used that exact Latios on a team with Slaking and RegiTank.

Unfortunately, Latios does not learn dragon claw as a level up. If you want you can get Dragonbreath with a heart scale. It is not as powerful as Dragonclaw but it does get STAB and the 30% chance for paralysis is always real nice. Also, I eventually replaced recover with Surf because I was having trouble with the darn steels, and that worked better for me since I found I wasn't using recover much anyway.

Before a lot of posters got Soul Dew, calm mind was used more frequently to boost both special attack and special defense. The problem with that though is it's usually good to have some kind of recovery move if you have a stat up move----the idea is to tank up as best you can and then recover, and after recovering try to sweep. This means you'd only have two attacks.

It's up to you. Those are some choices that could work since you do not have Soul Dew (right?) and do not have d-claw. Oh! And since you are trying a themed team (all psychic), I'm assuming you'll be able to handle the triple weakness. Good luck. I don't know if this post will help you but I tried.

[BD25]

well, I personally don't think a moveset with Dragonbreath would work. I'll EV train my Latios, then see what moveset to give it.

Latios @ Lum (no soul dew for me)

Psychic
Thunderbolt
Surf
???

I'm thinking Recover because Latios apparently has a high sp. atk. If I Ev. Train 252 Sp. Atk onto Latios, by lvl 50 he should have around 160 atk then. That's not bad but I think Calm Mind + Recover sounds good. stat up three or four times, recover, and then hit with psychic and thunderbolt. If they have an aggron or Cacture/Shifty on me I'm pretty much screwed Maybe Psychic, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Recover. If Latios gets his Sp. Atk to at least 170 then I won't be using recover. I'll be using calm mind. its at 119 rite now. With ev. training, I don't think it's gonna be enough to get his sp. atk up +50. =/

[shineyaltaria]

Yeah that sounds ok. Ev train and sleep on the moveset. By then you'll decide. If agron comes out just use surf. But watch out for that darn heracross with megahorn. It's fast and could ohko you.

I was real dissapointed with my Latios at first. After I gave it soul dew I was kind of expecting like super uber or something but it wasn't. I checked its IVs and they were about the worst I ever saw. Four of them were 0. Then I checked my other lati@s and ALL of them had terrible, I mean like absolutely awful IVs. The one I finally decided to train wasn't much better. BTW, I just looked up it's stats for you and its Special AT (lv 50) is 154.

[RareHunterX]

i did what u did and gve dragon claw to salamence..i regreted it...but..i only wish ihad gotten a modest nature latias so it would hve done more damage at BT

[wobmaster]

without d. claw id use :

psychic
t-bolt
icebeam/dragonbreath
surf/calm mind/recover

its a matter of choice...

[Dan the Pokeman]

well, I personally don't think a moveset with Dragonbreath would work. I'll EV train my Latios, then see what moveset to give it.

Actually, Dragonbreath isn't too bad a replacement for Dragon Claw. It's not as strong, but the Paralyze can be nice.

I'm thinking Recover because Latios apparently has a high sp. atk.

I like and use Recover. You may not use it very often, but when you do it helps your odds tremendously.

If they have an aggron or Cacture/Shifty on me I'm pretty much screwed

No, you're not! Metagross can handle Cacturne/Shiftry with Meteor Mash. It usually OHKO's them. And I did see LOTS of Cacturne and some Shiftry. Also, why not teach Starmie Surf? It should OHKO Agrron, too.

If Latios gets his Sp. Atk to at least 170 then I won't be using recover. I'll be using calm mind. its at 119 rite now.

My Latios has a Sp. At. of 195, and I still use Calm Mind and Recover. The combo is simply too good to not use. If you have enough Rare Candies you can temporarily elevate your Latios to Level 50 to get an idea of what it's stats will be at that level (w/o EVs, of course).

With ev. training, I don't think it's gonna be enough to get his sp. atk up +50. =/

I caught my Latios at Level 50; it's Sp. At. was 161 before I trained it; as you can see, it gained 34 points from Vitamins/EV Training. Getting yours +50 does seem unlikely to me. Of course, mine didn't gain any from Leveling Up, where yours will, so there is a chance it will happen.

But watch out for that darn heracross with megahorn. It's fast and could ohko you.

That is so very true! I had one KO my Pokes after 99 wins in BT! :mad: No joke. I used Psycic on it, and it had just a tiny sliver of red HP, but KO'd my last Pokemon. Aaaarrrrrggggghhh! That's why I got a stronger Latios. If you IV train as suggested above, you should be faster than Heracross.

I was real dissapointed with my Latios at first. After I gave it soul dew I was kind of expecting like super uber or something but it wasn't. I checked its IVs and they were about the worst I ever saw. Four of them were 0. Then I checked my other lati@s and ALL of them had terrible, I mean like absolutely awful IVs.

I don't know what the deal is, but I had the same experience! My first several Latios had really crappy IVs, too. I had one with 4 zeros and 2-3 with 3 zeros. Here's how I finally got a good one: I restarted a Ruby version, went to Southern Island and saved the game. I then caught Latios with a Master Ball and checked it's nature. If Modest, I checked the IVs. If not Modest or if the IVs were bad, I shut off the game and did it again. I did this maybe 40-50 times until I finally got one with a Modest Nature and good IVs.

This team has 2 HUGE problems:

1) All are Psychic, which means all are weak to Darkness attacks. Eventually, the Battle Tower may create an all-Darkness team you'll have lots of trouble dealing with. I must say that if you EV Train Metagross correctly, it can deal with at least 1 Darkness Pokemon.

2) NONE of your Pokemon can be bred! You're stuck using what you've caught. Now, I also use Metagross and Latios, but I was able to basically catch them over and over until I got one with IVs and Natures that I want. I don't think you have that luxury. I recommend dropping Starmie for something you can breed, like Milotic or possibly Swampert (if you can get a Female). You can keep a strong Surf this way, but reduce your weakness, and, if you get Swampert, you can add Earthquake to your team (Marshtomp learns EQ at lv. 48, I believe).

If you went into this intending to have a Psychic Theme Team, I don't have a good suggestion to replace Starmie.

Best of luck!

[BD25]

Hmm, I see your points all of you and I like 'em! I'm EV Training Latios in SP. ATK rite now and tomorrow for me theres half price at the energy guru, so I'm waiting to get my calciums and carbos then. I was surprised, when I was EV training Latios went up 10 points in Sp. Atk. I was like O_O because when I was EV Training Metagross in Speed and Atk, its atk only went up 6 at the most. Maybe my Latios has good IVs then? I think this Latios Moveset

Latios @ Lum

Mild = +Sp. At, -Def (not as good as Modest but still adds some Sp. Atk)

Psychic
Thunderbolt
Recover
And this one is up for grabs. I'm thinking either Calm Mind/ Ice Beam/ Dragonbreath

My Starmie has Surf to take care of the Aggrons and Starmie also has Ice Beam to take care of the Shifty/Cacturne. Hmm I could heart scale on a Dragonbreath or teach it Calm Mind. I don't think Calm Mind + Recover is going to work because Latios doesn't exactly have the best Defences. So I usually Calm Mind three times, and I probably have to recover often if I wish to keep Latios alive. Plus they could just roar or whirlwind away Latios and I hafta start all over =/ Plus when I had Gardevoir who Calm Mind'ed, after the first 18 battles it made a counter team. Pokemon with snatch (usually Kadabra) Confusers, and OHKO'ers so as not to give me chance to get the combo up. =/ Now I REALLY need help on the last move slot. Any suggestions?

[133tSneasel]

Serious, though this is the best set for the battle tower, I think and it is the standard

@Soul Dew
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Recover

you can use Lum Berry, if you think stats moves will cripple him alot. I've had a paralyzed Lati@s sweep 3 pokemon. pretty pathetic. but I also learned that "surf" is good, and "ice Beam" is good too. but I still think the above set is the best. because Thunderbolt handles all waters except (Swampert, and Wishcash who resists Electric attacks with it's Ground type counter part.) and Psychic which resists Dark types. But the only Dark type that I really have problem with was Cacturne. because Shiftry would explode and Absol has a weak Special Defense, so Thunderbolt was no problem. Sharpedo and Crawdaunt are Water types. and if you ever saw Sableye, one calm mind and thunderbolt should Kill him in One hit.