Goku's Dragon Fist Attack.

[PartyOtogi]

I heard that is his most powerful attack...is that true?

Also..why is his Kamehameha technique now "RED"?

When did he learned that dragon fist technique?

Thanks..

[Xssj2GohanX]

It is probably his strongest physical attack. It is red because they wanted GT to seem unique and even more powerful by randomly making it red. And we are to assume that he started with the technique in the years after Kid Buu.

[Charninja]

I could be wrong, but I think his kamehaha's only red when he's SSJ4. Given the predominate color scheme of that level, red isn't entirely innapropriate.

Then again, the DB/Z/GT stopped trying to be realistic a LOOOOOOONG time ago. Logic has no place in THAT universe.

[Supa Saiya]

The "red" Kamehameha is suppose to be the 10x Kamehameha or Ultimate Kamehameha as some people call it. As for the Dragonfist, it is for sure the strongest physical technique he has, but not his strongest technique. The Spirit Bomb will always be his strongest technique.

[Heero Yuy]

Then again, the DB/Z/GT stopped trying to be realistic a LOOOOOOONG time ago. Logic has no place in THAT universe.

I'll agree with you their LOL A long time ago

[Dorakkusu]

The red Kamehameha is the Juubai (though it sometimes sounds like 'jubei' when Goku's seiyuu says it) Kamehameha. "Juubai" literally translates to "ten times" or "tenfold", so it's the 10x Kamehameha.

As for the Dragon Fist (Ryu Ken), it's just one of those things that Toei decided to throw into GT after using it in Movie 13, while offering absolutely no explanation as to where he learned it, exactly what it does, or anything else whatsoever. It just looks pretty, is all...

[Mr. Announcer]

heh...I just find it kind of funny how the kamehameha is now red considering red is suppoosed to indicate the lowest energy level and blue is much higher up on the spectrum... but hey, who said GT had to make sense? Just one look at the Dragonfist and you know it doesn't.

[exodia424]

*sigh* why must the answer to all these questions diss GT, anyway ok so where did vegeta learn gallic gun, where did yamcha learn wolf fang fist, tien and tri beam, piccolo and special beam cannon (it never showed any of them learning the moves or practicing them)? gotenks even invented his own attacks, who says goku cannot do the same, sometime in his traingin goku mustve thought of an attack that was powerful and called it dragon fist, not to difficult to understand

[myth buster]

You took the words right out of my mouth.

[CBASS]

This is really pi$$in me off :mad: !!, I will give you answers!! for I am an answer giver :)

1. This is Gt we are talkin, in GT 1+5=my azz. But it is his most powerful attack requiring no ki. His real most powerful attack is the ultimate spirit bomb.

2. Yes, it is beacause of his SSJ4ness and also beacause darker auoras are red and SSJ4s are much more ruthless than ssj1s.

3. FILLER STRIKES AGAIN!! DBZ Movie 13. It takes place in between DBZ and DBGT. It is also the movie that explains the history of trunks sword. its an ok movie, broly and janemba were much better.

So there

[exodia424]

notice someone said dragon fist as strongest "physical attack" so that doesnt mean its his strongest, yeah his best attack is spirit bomb, no "ultimate spirit bomb" isnt the name of a move its just a bigger spirit bomb with more energy, and actually i see ssj4 as more calm then ssj1, goku seemed rather evil when he first turned ssj, probably because he was angry

edit:and im sure the dragon fist requires ki.......

[KaylaTheHedgehog]

*sigh* why must the answer to all these questions diss GT, anyway ok so where did vegeta learn gallic gun, where did yamcha learn wolf fang fist, tien and tri beam, piccolo and special beam cannon (it never showed any of them learning the moves or practicing them)? gotenks even invented his own attacks, who says goku cannot do the same, sometime in his traingin goku mustve thought of an attack that was powerful and called it dragon fist, not to difficult to understand.

Because the only way to explain problems like this is simply because it's GT. Goku's Kamehameha has always been blue, regardless of what stage he's in. Even when he used the Kaio Ken boost, it was still blue.

[Doom89]

Truly, dragon fist is the strongest ohysical attack. I'd say its about a half of strenght of a Ultra Spirit Bomb. Although this is only approximately.

[brndnfrtg]

Didn't he learn it in DB.

[Yugioh fan]

yeah I remember he had something like that!

[Xssj2GohanX]

Well if you consider it as just jumping with a lot of momentum through someone's body, well than sure.

[SaiyaMel04]

The Dragonfist attack is likely 100% TOEI - so Goku's strongest physical attack is the good ol' kamehameha.

[CBASS]

Nope, that was a flying punch strong enough to penetrate namekian flesh, Dragon Fist is a filler attack created by Goku in DBZ Movie 13 to destroy a giant dimmension bending monster trapped in a box.

[SaiyaMel04]

Dragon Fist is a filler attack created by Goku in DBZ Movie 13 to destroy a giant dimmension bending monster trapped in a box.

Yea, the Hildergarn i think it's called.

[exodia424]

Because the only way to explain problems like this is simply because it's GT. Goku's Kamehameha has always been blue, regardless of what stage he's in. Even when he used the Kaio Ken boost, it was still blue.

we have never seen it as an ssj4 though so why couldnt it be red, what best physical attack is kamehameha? isnt that a ki attack im lost now

[CBASS]

Well, no he's fired it as ssj4, during super hell fighter 17 saga, and during a few of the dragon battles and it is red. And yes its a ki attack not phys.

[brndnfrtg]

then why can you do the super dragon fist in Budokai 3?

[Air SSj Trunks]

then why can you do the super dragon fist in Budokai 3?
Well, first of all Budokai 3 is a game. And a game no matter how faithful to the story may bend some rules. And be a little bit more specific about "Why". Do you mean as a SSj4 or something else because I don't have that game.

[SaiyaMel04]

And yes its a ki attack not phys.

Depends on your definition of "physical attack" then...in that case neither of the senshis' attacks are physical - by the time DBZ starts it's all ki pretty well. even the Dragonfist would count as a ki attack rather than a physical. the way i see it - the ki energy comes from their bodies, thus count as physical attacks in my mind...(just like Giron's stomach goop)

The Spirit bomb/Genki dama however, does not....at least not by the user.

[exodia424]

i think of physical as an act of hitting someone with a part of your body, ki isnt a part of your body, though it did come from you, but it does seem logical he would bput ki in it to make it more than just a normal punch, like goku blocking trunks sword attacks either he said trunks wasnt going to hurt him or he was focusing his energy to his finger, i dont remember

[brndnfrtg]

there is alot of gt in budokai 3

[exodia424]

thats a game though........

[Demonic_Kid_Buu]

Well whats up with the yellow Kamehameha.

[Mr. Announcer]

Oh God, let's not bring that up again. You can theorize about that all you want but that was an animation error. What? These things happen! The kamehameha is blue dammit!

[exodia424]

when was the kamehameha yellow? obviously in GT sometime but which episode

[Xssj2GohanX]

No, it was yellow in the anime when gohan used a kamehameha against Buu's egg in the beginning of the Buu saga.

[brndnfrtg]

the kamehameha hasnt been yellow in gt. the only change is the 10x kamehameha which is red.

[KaylaTheHedgehog]

No, it was yellow in the anime when gohan used a kamehameha against Buu's egg in the beginning of the Buu saga.

That was a Kamahameha? I thought it was a Masenko. Of course I haven't seen the episode in who knows how long, so I may have it mixed up.

[crazynig1086]

Gokus 10x Kamehameha is red. As for movie 13 where he does the SSJ3 dragon fist to the Hildigarne, I disregard that movie because Trunks could never have gotten his sword like that because there was no other people in the real Trunks timeline except Gohan.

[Dark Malik]

Kayla: Yeah, it was the kamehameha. Gohan even said "kamehameha" before he fired at Buu's egg. I think the Frieza saga was the last time Gohan ever used the masenko (disregarding the movies and that filler Garlic jr. saga)

[brndnfrtg]

garlic jr. was a filler? dang so thats why i dont like it.

[myth buster]

He also must have used it as an instructor, since we see Pan use it in GT and I seriously doubt Piccolo would have put up with training another kid. By his own admission we know he doesn't like chasing kids arround.

[KaylaTheHedgehog]

Kayla: Yeah, it was the kamehameha. Gohan even said "kamehameha" before he fired at Buu's egg. I think the Frieza saga was the last time Gohan ever used the masenko (disregarding the movies and that filler Garlic jr. saga)

Thanks. Like I said, I haven't seen any of the Buu episodes in a while.

[XdragonfistX]

I know nothing of this "Dragonfist".

[CBASS]

Gokus 10x Kamehameha is red. As for movie 13 where he does the SSJ3 dragon fist to the Hildigarne, I disregard that movie because Trunks could never have gotten his sword like that because there was no other people in the real Trunks timeline except Gohan.

Well, you should disregard all the movies becuz they are filler but then again this whole topic is about a filler attack, wow, sort a funny.

And
I know nothing of this "Dragonfist".

Thats either funny or some what sad. Either way, haha

[573V30]

He learnt the Dragon Fist move which is i think called the Supreme Dragon Fist Explosion?? ( That's wat the movie name is i think ) . It's about This demon thingy that gets resurected and has Tapion's other half or little brother in it or something. And Trunks really likes Tapion so follows him around and stuff and they become good friends, Tapion then gives Trunks his sword b4 he leaves.