What is Broly's Deal??

[Tyrant Dragon101]

Why is Broly so mad at Goku? All he says his "kakorot...Kakorot..." can somebody tell me what his deal is?

[Blacklustersoldier69]

it's because goku kept crying as a child and it disturbed Brolly in the bed next to him or something like that

[New York Man]

How can he remember something like that? I haven't seen those movies.

[Xssj2GohanX]

It was an ill-thought out scheme in which Brolly was tormented by Goku's crying and it scarred him against GOku for his whole life and he wanted revenge in movie 8.

[CBASS]

I even knew that and I've only seen cooler movie 1!

[flame_champion]

he's also after goku because he senses goku's energy, and in brolly's revenge and bio brolly, he just wants revenge for gettin whupped by goku. :D

[Dorakkusu]

Uhm...Because Toei wanted Brolly to have a reason to want to beat up Gokou and the rest of the gang?

Plus, come on...You KNOW his one-liner "Kakalotto!!" sounds cool.

[SaiyaMel04]

Just a reminder, it's Kakarot, or if you prefer the japanese/romanji way - Kakarotto. don't go by how those lousy subbers spell it... ;)

[Hiei kicks ass]

he's also after goku because he senses goku's energy, and in brolly's revenge and bio brolly, he just wants revenge for gettin whupped by goku. :D
Whupped?!. In movie eight it was hilaruois how Goku did a kamehameha right in Brolly's face and he stould there with out a scratch on him and just smiled.

[BlindWarrior]

Yea, all Broli Wanted to do was get some shut eye and goku wouldn't shut up! I'd be pretty madd too if I didn't get a good amount of sleep because some fat baby wouldn't shut up ^_^.

[exodia424]

kind of a lame point for a movie, but i did enjoy the fighting, or rather broly beating up on all of them, just a thought but doesnt broly die in like 1 hit in all his movies? not counting all the tiny hits that didnt do damage at all

[Dorakkusu]

Just a reminder, it's Kakarot, or if you prefer the japanese/romanji way - Kakarotto. don't go by how those lousy subbers spell it... ;)

Just a reminder, I don't care. =P

All are acceptable spellings, and I'm sure that it's already been debated to death around here. But, the R and L sounds are VERY similar in Japanese, just as with other non-English languages. B and V sound nearly the same, as well, which is what causes spellings like Bejiita for Vegeta's name.

Besides, when Brolly says it, it sounds like a very definite L sound in there...

[olibuhero22]

lemme put it this way.....Broly's Deal is that he is emotionally disturbed, mentally disturbed, and mad with power......and he hates Kakarot for doing something that children do quite often....cry....and then he makes a second apperance not being "quite dead", and makes another apperance as a bio-engineered freak.......and thats "Broly's Deal" in a nutshell....

[Dementia Warrior]

Now wait, Broly wasn't really that bad of a guy. He did have some 'Pet Peeves', and he may have been a little eccentric from the great power he was born with, but he never had any friends, he had an assassination attempt on his life at a very young age, he never knew his mother, how could you blame the poor man? I think 'Broly's Deal' is quite simple, he is a victim of society. Does anyone else agree?

[flame_champion]

Now wait, Broly wasn't really that bad of a guy. He had some 'Pet Peeves', and he may have been a little eccentric from power, but he never had any friends, he had a assassination attempt on his life at a very young age, how could you blame the man? I think 'Broly's Deal' is quite simple, he is a victim of society. Anyone else agree?


no.

brolly's super saiyan powers were uncontrollable.....

remember, vegeta talks about how the legendary super saiyan can only control his power while transformed. Brolly is the legendary super saiyan (not goku, not vegeta, not gohan) and he is not transformed, so therefore not only would he be unable to control his power, but probably go mad from it.


a traumatic childhood has nothing to do with "brolly's deal".....

[crazynig1086]

I also hated how Vegeta was a little biatch in that movie. It totally went against his whole persona.

[Silver52x]

I also hated how Vegeta was a little biatch in that movie. It totally went against his whole persona.
So pretty much you're saying that Vegeta's NOT a wuss...? I also believe he's backed out of fights with Frieza and the Androids... Not to mention that he needed Bebi's help to beat CHIBI Goku! So yeah, I'd pretty much say that what we saw in movie 8 was basically Vegeta's persona...

[94_BLOCK]

Broly is just a psycho saiyan just because Goku made him cry he got mad and got mad when they were babies

[Xssj2GohanX]

So pretty much you're saying that Vegeta's NOT a wuss...? I also believe he's backed out of fights with Frieza and the Androids... Not to mention that he needed Bebi's help to beat CHIBI Goku! So yeah, I'd pretty much say that what we saw in movie 8 was basically Vegeta's persona...

His persona? So are you saying that movie 8 WAS an alternate character of Vegeta?

[Hemostrat]

So pretty much you're saying that Vegeta's NOT a wuss...? I also believe he's backed out of fights with Frieza and the Androids... Not to mention that he needed Bebi's help to beat CHIBI Goku! So yeah, I'd pretty much say that what we saw in movie 8 was basically Vegeta's persona...

... except... he was the first one to fight Freezer, and fought him in his 4th form too, he fought the Andriods, and he didn't even want to fight Goku anymore in GT.

He was raised with thinking that the LSSJ had emense power beyond all belief. Wouldn't you be afraid? Someone has been sending you threatning letters all your life then you finally meet that person, he's bulky, strong, and has no fear. I wouldn't be able to fight.

[Silver52x]

Sure he's fought.. but how many times has he actually saved someone? He's a wuss... case closed.

[shannarafan]

O.o But Vegeta wasn't supposed to save people. For the most part of the series he was an ex-killer who didn't care about anyone but himself, remember?

And he's not a wuss. I don't remember him backing down from any fights in DBZ. :confused:

"Broly is just a psycho saiyan just because Goku made him cry he got mad and got mad when they were babies"

Yup. And the fact of the matter is, Brolli is gay. Real gay. How dare Toei, making that lumbering, overrated retard star in not one, but 3 of the DBZ movies.
Darn them.. darn them to HFIL!

[Blacklustersoldier69]

I think the best way he died was in Brolly returns with Goku, Gohan, and Goten all doing the kamehameha at once

[Hemostrat]

Sure he's fought.. but how many times has he actually saved someone? He's a wuss... case closed.

Yes... saving someone to fight doesn't make you a wuss. But you know, fighting for yourself does make you one. Uh-huh... :rolleyes: He gave it his best in every single fight he's been in, I have no idea how you can call him a wuss and mean it.

[flame_champion]

Sure he's fought.. but how many times has he actually saved someone? He's a wuss... case closed.



no. a wuss would be someone who would rather die than lose. That's a wuss. Vegeta has saved people on coutless occasions.......he fights with Krillin and Gohan in the namek saga....he fights the androids....he fights majin buu.......the movies don't even show you the real vegeta..none of them do....
>>>>>
Vegeta: you better watch out!

*vegeta flies at opponent, and gets beat down......

vegeta: oh no......kakarot's still better than me.......
<<<<<<<

that's bull. There's nothing in the actual storyline to suggest vegeta's a wuss.



...*finds this defense amusing since I hate vegeta*.......

[Dementia Warrior]

no.

brolly's super saiyan powers were uncontrollable.....

remember, vegeta talks about how the legendary super saiyan can only control his power while transformed. Brolly is the legendary super saiyan (not goku, not vegeta, not gohan) and he is not transformed, so therefore not only would he be unable to control his power, but probably go mad from it.


a traumatic childhood has nothing to do with "brolly's deal".....

I have to disagree. A traumatic childhood could explain everything. Any good psychiatrist will tell you that. And this guy didn't have any easy time in any aspect. His father wouldn't even let him express himself, his father instead tried to control him like a mindless drone. What kind of life is that? And of course if he was conscious during the time he was a mindless drone, it would only make his anger worse. The evidence just piles up in his favor, Broly is a victim.

[Ryouji_Junishirin]

The truth is Goku's voice is very very scary, Michael Jackson scary. Hearing him cry while you are just a little baby must be the most horrifying thing to hear in your entire life, and because of this suffering. Brolly is bent on killing Goku to end this madness.

[twisted_one540]

brolly is just jealous of goku and he pms's a lot just like a little girl he cries and cries

[brolly2020]

Ok so here's the deal... when sayians are born it's like an act of instinct to tell the sayians fighting spirit by the way they act when they're born. So what happened was Goku, and Brolly were born on the same day, and even though Brolly had a power level of 10,000 compared to goku's 1. Goku scared Brolly with his fighting spirit by thrashing about in his crib. Now it may sound retarded but I guess you can say it mentally scarred Brolly for life. Which was good for Brolly because it caused him to break from his fathers' (Paragas) hold over him when he saw Goku in movie 8. Now as for the finishing move that was not a kamehameha!!!I honestly don't know what it was, but if anything it was his super dragon fist in the works. Brolly's first movie (movie8) he had his bearings and knew what he was doing, the second one (movie10) however he was quite obsessed with killing Goku. That was until the end when he though he was about to finish Gohan off. Then there was triple kamehameha. And that was the last of the real brolly. I personally don't even count the last one it was a joke, and it wasn't even really brolly. Those are my comments and thank you.

[SaiyaMel04]

Just a lil' correction - as shown in the Bardock special, Kakarot's PL at birth was 2 not 1.

[sesshoumarux]

Wh teh hell holds a grudge over such a thing...
Brolly owns though...

[myth buster]

The point is Goku's strength has always been in his capacity to grow rapidly, not in an existing power level that is off the charts compared to who he's fighting.

[ZanarkandAce]

I didn't read past page one, and if someone already pointed this out, then props to them.

I believe the reason for the grudge against Kakarotto was because of a childish misunderstanding. Kakarotto did nothing but cry. It did upset Brolli, but the icing on the cake was this:

The one time Kakarotto quit crying was the time when the Saiyajin guards came in with the intent of killing Brolli. Brolli was wimpering at the time, and the result? Stabbed in the stomach. What was the kid to think? "He was crying, and when I cry, they think it was me and stabbed me. WTF?!?"

That's just me. A Childish Grudge for being stabbed. Brolli associated crying with being stabbed. He figured they were sent to stab the crying kid, and he was the unlucky one...

[SaiyaMel04]

I'm still gonna have to go with what Gohan said about it being an ill-thought out scheme... :p

[Concordium]

Why is it that people feel they must psychoanalyze Brolly and Goku during the first few weeks of their life in order to justify what they have done or thought throughout the rest of their eventful life? here is my opinion on it...its a freakin cartoon. the creators had to have something there in order to expand on the hatred of Goku. without something there to fuel the fire the creators had no way to justify or even initiate any sort of relationship between Brolly and Goku. just like in movies, unrealistic things happen and you cant ask why they do, just accept the fact that its a movie. as with this subject, just accept the fact that its a show and something had to be there to initiate the hatred. i myself think it was a poorly chosen way to begin such a relationship...but then again i wasnt in charge of creating the show. but thats all it is, a show. remember that next you time you go Fruedian all over someone like Brolly.

[Xssj2GohanX]

While much of that may be true, this is a DISCUSSION board where we choose to discuss any topic related to db/z/gt. If a question is brought up, we discuss it and bring up any plausible and likely ideas or theories about it. That's part of the fun in it.

[Concordium]

While much of that may be true, this is a DISCUSSION board where we choose to discuss any topic related to db/z/gt. If a question is brought up, we discuss it and bring up any plausible and likely ideas or theories about it. That's part of the fun in it.

oh dont get me wrong. i understand that fact. i am a veteran over at mustang world which is a message board for mustangs (duh). i have been over there for 3 years and have talked about almost everything. its just that when it comes to a cartoon you cant analyze what was going through Brolly's head when he was a child. you have to analyze what was going through the creators head when the cartoon was made. what was the creator trying to get at? did he also include any underlying, and perhaps not so apparent, reasonings for Brolly being the way he is? why did it have to be Brolly and not Raditz. why did he make Brolly and Paragras survive instead of just killing them off like they were supposed to? thats my main point. analyze the creators, not the created.

[Xssj2GohanX]

Point duly noted. Welcome to the board by the way.

[Concordium]

Point duly noted. Welcome to the board by the way.

thanx. the boards seem cool thus far. :D

by the way, when were these boards created? it doesnt seem like people have very many posts. i was just wondering.

[Heero Yuy]

Whupped?!. In movie eight it was hilaruois how Goku did a kamehameha right in Brolly's face and he stould there with out a scratch on him and just smiled.

Dude I found that to be the best ever, I was cracking up laughing lol I loved that part.

[superstition]

Broly Just Needs To Take A Fudging Nap For Sayians Sake.he Is Probably Just Made Because His Beauty Sleep Was Desturbid.

[Yugioh fan]

where can I buy these maybe at best buy?

[exodia424]

i think the board has been around since january, this new one, i think pojo had a few old boards but i dunno, i have quite a few posts, too many in fact

also yeah best buy probably has dbz movies

[pozr]

wut was funny when trunks pissed on brolly

[LEGACY]

The deal is brolly is ignorant. Hes overrated,he was draw up just to cash in on the super sayin hype and he make all sayins look bad.

[Silver52x]

If Broly's the "Legendary Super Saiya-jin", presumily the most indestructible being in the universe, then why is it that Goku was able to beat him only with the power of Trunks, Gohan, and a little of Vegeta... Keeping in mind that I am leaving Piccolo as giving him no power, as he is weak and doesn't count for anything.

Broly should've be invincible!

[SaiyaMel04]

The deal is brolly is ignorant. Hes overrated,he was draw up just to cash in on the super sayin hype and he make all sayins look bad.

Exactly. i couldn't have put it better myself, Jazz...and you sumed up why Brolly sucks.

If Broly's the "Legendary Super Saiya-jin", presumily the most indestructible being in the universe, then why is it that Goku was able to beat him only with the power of Trunks, Gohan, and a little of Vegeta... Keeping in mind that I am leaving Piccolo as giving him no power, as he is weak and doesn't count for anything.

The answer here is TOEI...in the the movies and once in GT - they have the other senshi all donate their energy to Goku whenever he has nothing left in him...

[573V30]

There's exactly 3 movies of which Brolly is in. First 1 is on a fake planet where Brolly's Dad wants him to kill Goku and Vegeta to become King. And the 2nd is where after Brolly was beatin in the first movie he is frozen in the ground and awakens from crying by Goten or Gohan ( One of them ) and awakens from the sleep and gets beat again by Goten/Gohan/"Goku". Then he gets reborn again as a cyborg.

[SaiyaMel04]

He gets reborn as a clone, not a cyborg. and among all the Brolly movies (or DBZ movies for that matter) - 11 sucks about the most...

[inuyasha77756]

The Deal Is That Brolly Was Born On The Same Day As Goku And Goku Cried And Cried When He Wass Little And Brolly Got Pissed Off :d

[Maverick Hunter]

if someone already explained excuse me but i didn't read the replies i just read the topic and replied...

When Kakarot and Broly were infants...kakarot was screaming and wailing contantly and broly was kept right next to him in this room of little carriage things and kakarot always wailing made broly cry continuously...

altho it doesn't seem like much...i guess the pain and fear he suffered in his early life carried into adulthood and when he was pushed over the top (mostly cuz of the thot of those memories) that's all he could think about...maybe broly believed that killing kakarot would end his suffering....not to mention the fact that he just wanted to destroy everything he saw...

and on the vegeta debate....

Vegeta is not a wuss-
-he fought freiza form 4 willingly
-he fought androids against all warnings willingly
-he fought cell who up to that point had been narly unstoppable
-he went after PERFECT CELL knowing full well he couldn't win just to avenge his son
-he is the reason gohan beat cell, remember he sent a blast at cell's back that distracted him
-he blew himself up against majin buu in the name of his friends and family...it takes guts to sacrifice ur own life (knowing ur going to HFIL when u die) to save others
-he wasnt a wuss throughout the whole movie, he grew up beign taught that the legendary super saiyan was unstoppable by any force and would kill without mercy...it's kinda like we grew up being taught that guns will kill u...if sum1 points a gun at u, whats the first thing that coems to mind? but in spite of that he did rise up and fight broly when all was said and done
- he gave up his pride to join goku many times, cowards cannot so easily humble themselves liek that

Vegeta is not a wuss, he's a prideful saiyan

[New Devimon]

I think that I asked something like this at one point or another.

[LEGACY]

The only good thing about brolly is being used as a fighting char in the DBZB games.

[Maverick Hunter]

ya there is that, but it's also fun to watch him beat up on the good guys lol

[FlameGilfer92]

its bcause he and goku were born on the same day. goku had a power lvl of 2 when born, broly was at 10,000. king vegeta thought that broly would grow up to be a threat to the saiyan race (he probly only has a power lvl of 12,000). so king vegeta left broly and his father to die by stabbing them in the heart and leaving them on a pile of garbage. later that day frieza destroyed the planet after goku was sent to earth and broly's powers saved him and paragus and brought them to safety. Broly wanted revenge on goku because all he could remember was goku's crying and paragus wanted revenge on vegeta because of what his father had done to him (wow thats an old plot).

PS:Srry if everything i wrote was posted already, didnt read through the posts