View Full Version : So who here does Martial Arts?
Tigress31887
11-11-2004, 07:38 PM
I'm a newbie here and out of curiosity, how many pplz do Martial Arts? How long have you been doing Martial Arts and what kind?
I have been doing TaeKwonDo since January and I'm a green stripe and I've been doing Gumdo (Korean Sword Fighting) since July and I'm a Yellow Belt.
Charninja
11-11-2004, 07:44 PM
Eh, I never got past second degree yellow belt in tae kwon do, mostly due to constant moving at the time. For the most part, now I just make moves up as I go along, and the few times they've been necessary, they were qutie effective.
Really though, nothing'll ever beat a Colt Python.
Linzoy
11-11-2004, 07:59 PM
I've been thinking about doing fencing again this year.
Yami_Malik
11-11-2004, 08:02 PM
I'm in Tae Kwon Do and I'm a second degree brown belt. The rankings go as follows:
1. White
2. Yellow
3. Orange
4. Green
5. Purple
6. Blue
7. Brown
8. Second Degree Brown
9. Red
10. Second Degree Red
11. Black
P.S. I HATE kids who get black belts when they're like 10. They're just not mature enough. :mad:
akiragale_532
11-11-2004, 08:07 PM
I have been taking martial arts classes since I was like 5 and here are some of the styles I know Tae Kwan Do,Shoto Khan,Hap Kido,Various weapon styles (Bow,Katana,Kama, several others) currently learning Tiger Style and Dragon Style
Charninja
11-11-2004, 08:16 PM
P.S. I HATE kids who get black belts when they're like 10. They're just not mature enough. :mad:
I always wondered how they got them, anyway. They'd have had to start at five or something, and the average 5 year old is nowhere NEAR disciplined enough to remember all the forms and moves to get that far that quickly. It simply defies logic in every way.
Master Thief
11-11-2004, 08:16 PM
I've gotten through my yellow belt in Karate when I was young, and took some kickboxing classes, but nothing extreme. I did place 5th for my kata in a tournament. ^_^
Tigress31887
11-11-2004, 08:19 PM
We got a black belt whose 16 in my class n he teaches and we got a temporary black belt whose like 10 and a black stripe whose like 12....yea their immature, even the 16 year old lol
Rosenkreuz
11-11-2004, 08:29 PM
I have a black belt in Tang Soo Do/Soo Bahk Do. Its a Korean karate, like a blend of the best components of several other types of martial arts. I have also taken the Brazilian born Capoeira for a while. I did archery and fencing for a good while as well. I definitly don't look like I could fight though as anyone who knows me will tell you! ;)
Senju
11-11-2004, 08:35 PM
I'm taking classes on fencing right now, its pretty hard and your legs are sore afterwords, it's also pretty rule based. I havent got to fight yet though. I also do some kicks and punches in the air when I'm bored, and I practiced standing on one leg and blocking with your other leg like Muai Thai kickboxers do. Or atleast what they do in fighting games : )
TheQuijaBoard
11-11-2004, 08:53 PM
umm..I'm somewhat experienced at the Hawaiian art of Kajukenbo (I'm not hawaiian! Im Phillipino!! Isn't that weird!!! well..not really). I started like...a few years ago..got really into it, then had to quit before i became really.."knowledgable" of the art. I also study short-staff handling (not in a formal session, I just get bored and teach myself, so not much progress on that)..yep...
*I'd like to learn fencing...
crazynig1086
11-11-2004, 09:31 PM
I always wanted to take karate but my parents would never let me... damn those ppl
Village Dag
11-12-2004, 02:56 PM
I used to do karate. Got up to green belt. When they didn't send any notification of classes starting, I quit.
chisel tip
11-12-2004, 03:21 PM
i know basic karate, i've mainly trained with japanese swords (bokkens, katanas...). it was about 3 years ago though.
Omega Ridley
11-12-2004, 07:03 PM
I took three months of Tae Kwon Do, and a little Tai Chi. I want to learn Chinese Long Sword, because the motions look more fluid than Japanese sword styles (which has an emphasis on power). I haven't seen Korean sword styles, though.
The Everett Community College offers a class that teaches Iaido, the 12 forms (kata) of Seitei Iaido, and Muso Shinden Ryu (for advanced students) for only $50. I really want to take this class...
Tigress31887
11-12-2004, 08:33 PM
The Everett Community College huh? Where's that? That sounds really interesting.
Shazam!!
11-12-2004, 08:38 PM
yes, i am under the great master, Pee king duck, he is fluent in tai wo che cha, and kayratay................no, ive never taken it.
Anansi
11-12-2004, 08:54 PM
I used to practice Boxing. Jab-Jab-Counter, yeah, the basic combo. Gotta be quick on the feet tho.
Anybody do Brasilian Jujutsu? Supposed to be tight for MMA. (Mixed Martial Arts)
Firestorm27
11-13-2004, 09:28 AM
I take Taekwondo and am a 1st degree recommended Black belt. I've trained for seven years (I am 13). The belt order is
White
Sr White
Yellow
sr yello
Green
sr green
Blue
sr blu
Purple
sr purple
Red
senior red
Brown
sr brown
1st degree black recommended
1st degree black decided (me)
2nd degree black recommended
2nd degree black decided
3rd degree black recommended
Firestorm27
11-13-2004, 09:30 AM
4th degree black
5th degree black
6th degree black
etcetera till 9th
My instructor's only a fifth degree. You have to b like 90 to reach 9th degree black
Pink Magician Girl
11-13-2004, 05:10 PM
I was a purple belt in Judo, untill one girl in our class broke her hip. After that, I stopped.
Delacroix
11-13-2004, 05:33 PM
I practise Ninjutsu since I was 8.I'm a black belt now.
I'm also developing my own fighting style using swords, cla** and wierd blades.
Tao Ren
11-13-2004, 05:52 PM
There is no such thing as Sword Art in Korea. At least, what I believe...
Kum = Ken (Kum = Korean... Ken = Japanese) And they basically mean sword.
So Kum Do and Ken Do are the same in meaning.
I got my Red/Black Belt when I was in 5th grade... Then I had to move here. I did a little bit of KenDo for a while, but it got boring quickly...
Kick boxing looks fun as hell...
Pink Magician Girl
11-13-2004, 05:55 PM
Kick boxing looks fun as hell...
Seriously! After seeing Jack*** the Movie, Kick Boxing looks so fun.
PrinceMarth23
11-13-2004, 05:57 PM
Hm....I used to take Kung Fu for like....1 year.
Zhou Yu
11-13-2004, 08:10 PM
my dad practiced wu shu since he was 8. He taught me everything i know about wu shu. I have an wu shu studio in my basement.
Tigress31887
11-13-2004, 09:22 PM
There is no such thing as Sword Art in Korea. At least, what I believe...
Kum = Ken (Kum = Korean... Ken = Japanese) And they basically mean sword.
So Kum Do and Ken Do are the same in meaning.
Actually, Gumdo is a form of Korean sword fighting. The term 4 sword is Gum...not Kum lol. And there are different types of Korean swords:
Mokgum=Wooden Sword
ga-gum=non-sharp sword
jin-gum=sharp sword
We Gumdo students use a wooden sword but when we become blue belts we're aloud to buy a non-sharp sword....yea that can still do some damage but not as much as a real sword lol. Apparently every year in Korea there is a Gumdo Championship tournament or something like that and black belt students in our school r aloud to participate. The next tournament is in 2006 and I'd love to b in it cuz most likely I'll b a black belt by then. If I can find a link on this tournament I'll post it.
O_Master
11-13-2004, 09:32 PM
Do you guys think it is possible for someone trained in tae kwon do, karate etc. could lose to a regular person? I have never tooken anything like this, but it pisses me off when 12 year old black belts thing they can beat me just cause' they can kick higher.
Pink Magician Girl
11-13-2004, 09:40 PM
Do you guys think it is possible for someone trained in tae kwon do, karate etc. could lose to a regular person? I have never tooken anything like this, but it pisses me off when 12 year old black belts thing they can beat me just cause' they can kick higher.
Yes, its possible they can win, but most of the time a person with lots of training wont lose to a regular person.
O_Master
11-13-2004, 09:47 PM
I don't care if someone is so trained he can break steal with his tongue, once the gun is pulled, your training is no longer important. Because the insant the trigger is pulled, it's over. And noone can tell me a trained person can dodge a bullet. All wars/fights use weapons use these days, leaving not to much room for martial arts. I'd say martial arts is good to keep bullies away, not the other big n' bad issues.
Tigress31887
11-13-2004, 09:50 PM
I hear in some tournaments where I live, if a bigger person spars a lil kid then the lil kid automatically wins....but the guys I heard it from r a couple of jerk offs....so who knos lol
Overlord Zatenks
11-13-2004, 11:51 PM
I am a martial artists and have been one for over a decade. I study under four primary forms.
Pak Mei Gongfu, Quan Gongfu (Dragon form), Shaolin Gongfu, and Aikido. On occasion, I dabble in Hapkido.
I am quite proficient in all four forms, and I am skilled with a variety of weapons both Chinese and Japanese. My favorites include the Bo, and the Katana. I absolutely adore the Katana though.
cocacola
11-14-2004, 12:56 AM
1. White
2. Yellow- 2nd
3. Orange-2nd,3rd
4. Green-2nd,3rd
5. Purple-2nd,3rd
6. Blue-2nd,3rd
7. red-2nd,3rd
8. brown-2nd,3rd
9. Jr. black level 1
10. Jr. black level 2
11. Black
P.S. I HATE kids who get black belts when they're like 10. They're just not mature enough. :mad:
Excuse me, buddy? You feel the need to insult me. Now I filled in the chart above with MY belts. I worked too hard for my black belt to be called immature. That's the stuff Ive been through tae kwan do. Now, I also have taken judo, jujitsu, jeet kune do, and sambo.
Lost Digi Girl
11-14-2004, 12:57 AM
I first took TaeKwonDo near the begining of my junior year in high school(in 2001), and continued there until January 2003(got too busy with school) Then this semester I took it as a class at college, and even if it was a begininer class, it was great. So now I'm considering contuning to take classes, either at college or at a different place.
And in responce to O Master, we had been told not to try to take on someone with a gun, we aren't that good. Like if being robbed at gunpoint, it's better to give in than to do something like try to attack.
cocacola
11-14-2004, 01:02 AM
Do you guys think it is possible for someone trained in tae kwon do, karate etc. could lose to a regular person? I have never tooken anything like this, but it pisses me off when 12 year old black belts thing they can beat me just cause' they can kick higher.
Ah goodness. Read my first post.
Evangelion Unit-Zeta
11-14-2004, 01:12 AM
I did Martial Arts for a year or two and then quit. I was 10 back then and all the guys in my class were like 18 and stuff.
Lost Digi Girl
11-14-2004, 01:56 AM
That's opposite of when I took in the first time. I was 17, the rest of the class were kids, and even though some were black belt, it still didn't seem to be helping me much. (it also didn't help the days where class was just me, my brother Kenny who was 10 at the time, and a 4 yr old girl also named Jennifer and one belt below us).
So in my college class, it's really good being able to work with people my own age and size, and also working with people with different skills, I guess you could say. Some are very beginner, so they are very slow and careful in their techniques, others are more serious and more forceful in their blocks and sort of things. Working with both types is useful, and worlds more than working with kids(not meaning that kids aren't good, just refering to size wise)
Heero Yuy
11-14-2004, 03:31 PM
I take Shalin, Kempo and Karate. I've done it for 15 years. I'm Second Degree Back Belt.
juvanya
11-15-2004, 08:48 PM
How 'bout Ninjitsu? The only Martial Art I like. And I mean the real shadow-like warrior-spy-saboteurs.
Tigress31887
11-15-2004, 09:03 PM
I think I've heard of Ninjitsu before but you'll hafta give me alil bit of detail on it lol. Anywayz we had to cut bamboo in my Gumdo class 2night n I had 2 use a heavy sword. It wuz kool tho cuz we had to cut it at a 15 degree angle...took me three tries to do it tho. Does n e one here have to cut or break something during belt testing?
Lost Digi Girl
11-15-2004, 09:45 PM
I never had to, although if I had continued, I know I would have for my next belt. Most of the board breaks were done during class testing, but for the black belt testing, they also had to do it at graduation(which for them was just testing in public)
cocacola
11-15-2004, 10:46 PM
I think I've heard of Ninjitsu before but you'll hafta give me alil bit of detail on it lol. Anywayz we had to cut bamboo in my Gumdo class 2night n I had 2 use a heavy sword. It wuz kool tho cuz we had to cut it at a 15 degree angle...took me three tries to do it tho. Does n e one here have to cut or break something during belt testing?
...How about English next time. But, no, I don't HAVE to break anything, I choose to. I got big pieces of wood and broke them with my fist. "It wuz kool tho cuz" I got to test my limits.
MartialArtsFreak
04-25-2005, 01:57 PM
I wonder how I ever missed this topic? Oh well, better late than never. I'm 22. I've done martial arts for quite some time. When I was 4 I started TKD at the Y. Once I turned 8 I was let into a real TKD school, not a sport oriented one. At 10 I started Aikido and Iaido as well. I'm currently 3rd Dan in TKD, and Nidan in Aikido and Iaido.
Secret Squirrel
04-25-2005, 07:23 PM
I took some Karate/TKD. Right now I'm taking Aikido and I love it. ^_^
I think everyone should take some form of martial arts in their life. It gives you a lot of confidence in everyday life that you wouldn't normally have, and not all arts are about killing your joints, withstanding blows, kicking things, etc. A lot of the philosophy is just amazing.
Charninja
04-25-2005, 08:08 PM
Do you guys think it is possible for someone trained in tae kwon do, karate etc. could lose to a regular person? I have never tooken anything like this, but it pisses me off when 12 year old black belts thing they can beat me just cause' they can kick higher.
Such a thing is imminently possible, and in some cases, quite probable. Anybody who fights regularly will tell you that no matter how well trained someone is, they have a distinct disadvantage against someone who is larger than they are. A competent, relatively large person can easily beat a relatively well-trained martial arts student when there is any meaningful difference in hight and/or weight. Of course, assumptions DO have to be made.
1.) The larger person is actually competant. No 'tards need apply.
2.) The larger person DOES have some fighting experience. They need to know that not only do they HAVE an advantage, they need to know how to USE their advantage. In many cases, leverage can be more important than speed and power combined.
3.) In most fights, speed as it is typically thought of is worthless. You never fight and race at the same time, it just isn't possible under normal circumstances. Even a big guy like myself can outmaneuver a smaller, lighter person in close combat if they know what they're doing. Running speed matter diddly squat - it's reflexes and the speed at which information is obtained, sorted, and acted upon that means very nearly everything.
4. No weapons. It really doesn't matter how good you are. You will not beat any sort of fire arm that was designed to kill people, and even if you are going against some crappy ass BB gun, you STILL are at a disadvantage since they can still shoot you in the face for damage that, though not necessarily fatal, is definitely going to effect your abilities. Hand weapons like knives and whatnot are a wildcard, since there is still the possibility that if you are quick and strong enough, you can not only fend them off, but even take that knife for yourself. The reach such weapons give is usually minimal, and so long they are avoided, they can actually leave openings for a counter attack of your own.
5. Every fight is fought in the mind first. You will automatically size your opponent(s) up, look for weaknesses such as glasses, loose clothing, or previous injuries, as well as study their movement to detect limps or other problems. You will also take in their strengths, such as their size, any obvious weapons, and compatriots. In the second or two that you are doing this, you will gain valuable impressions which will not only determine your strategy, but also whether you even want to try and fight them to begin with. Assuming that you can escape, of course. This is also where intimidation begins, and is a definite advantage for big guys. Even if the opponent is the ****y type who refuses to admit any sort of disadvantage or weakness, that is simply another advantage to abuse for the big guy, since they can attack psychologically through surprises or by goading them into a fight they cannot actually win.
When all is said and done, there are only two ways a noticably smaller person could beat a larger person. They are either very, very good at killing people and much better at it than their opponent, or they have a gun. If they do not have one or both of those at their disposal, the chances of them coming out of any confrontation with a bigger person, no matter how well formally trained, are poor indeed.
Shaggy Dog
04-25-2005, 09:46 PM
i have been taking tkd for quite some time. i am a 2nd degree black belt
JAY BEE
04-26-2005, 09:58 AM
ahh i've had training in several forms of martial arts. kung fu crane/mantis/tiger, jeet kun do, capoiera(realllly fun but very hard for some arial gymnastic moves), aikido, muy thai kickboxing, and streetfighting. my uncle is an undercover cop who used to be a kung fu teacher. he taught me a lot of stuff, like how to disarm opponents who have guns/knives, how to break arms/legs/ribs/misc in one move, etc. very useful in defeating opponents twice your size. i practice by breaking boards and cinderblocks.
streetfighting is indeed a legit form of fighting. it's an "anything goes" kind of thing that you'd use in a real fight. i have tons of sparring practice with this. i mix and match different moves from different martial arts that are the most practical and powerful. the best moves come from jeet kun do and muy thai, for the most part. lots of grappling and ground moves are used. in a real fight i'd most likely wait for you to swing at me and i'd catch your arm and break it. a very good way to start things off. i'd also go for your knee cap. you have to be brutal in a real scenario.
i also train with weapons. knife training is used heavily in the military, and it's very good to know how to use a knife. i memorized all the major arteries, nerves, and tendons on the body so i'm quite deadly with a blade. i also train with a long staff, the sais, and the katana. i <3 the katana.
Secret Squirrel
04-26-2005, 05:26 PM
Such a thing is imminently possible, and in some cases, quite probable. Anybody who fights regularly will tell you that no matter how well trained someone is, they have a distinct disadvantage against someone who is larger than they are. A competent, relatively large person can easily beat a relatively well-trained martial arts student when there is any meaningful difference in hight and/or weight.
They can't easily beat them. Try kicking and doing any kind of fighting move on a person who's smaller than you. It's still hard. The larger person does have a definite strength advantage, but getting the smaller person off balance, while keeping himself in balance, is not easy.
I think you're really zoned in on the "bigger guy can punch out a smaller guy" thought. You can still win if you can get your opponent off balance. While it might be easier for a larger person to do this to a smaller person, that doesn't mean it's not possible.
3.) In most fights, speed as it is typically thought of is worthless. You never fight and race at the same time, it just isn't possible under normal circumstances. Even a big guy like myself can outmaneuver a smaller, lighter person in close combat if they know what they're doing. Running speed matter diddly squat - it's reflexes and the speed at which information is obtained, sorted, and acted upon that means very nearly everything.
I believe that the best ability is the ability to remain calm during a fight. If you don't panic, you can relax and think things over more carefully. You don't need to be in shape to do martial arts.
4. No weapons. It really doesn't matter how good you are. You will not beat any sort of fire arm that was designed to kill people, and even if you are going against some crappy ass BB gun, you STILL are at a disadvantage since they can still shoot you in the face for damage that, though not necessarily fatal, is definitely going to effect your abilities. Hand weapons like knives and whatnot are a wildcard, since there is still the possibility that if you are quick and strong enough, you can not only fend them off, but even take that knife for yourself. The reach such weapons give is usually minimal, and so long they are avoided, they can actually leave openings for a counter attack of your own.
All I believe a knife does is add tension. That's one of the reasons why I didn't like Karate and why I like Aikido. Karate focuses a lot on one spot, such as the hand, and blocks it. If there was a knife, it would be focused on the knife. While you can't simply ignore the weapon, you can't focus on it entirely, especially when there are multiple people attacking you. In Aikido, you can pin someone with a knife down the exact same way you would someone without a knife. If there's a gun you probably can't do jack unless you can take it from their hand ie: by getting close to them. Still wouldn't want to risk that though.
5.
Again, this whole thing can be solved by remaining calm and knowing what you're doing. That shouldn't be a way that a big guy will always win. If a big guy can intimidate someone like that, the little guy shouldn't be fighting.
When all is said and done, there are only two ways a noticably smaller person could beat a larger person. They are either very, very good at killing people and much better at it than their opponent, or they have a gun. If they do not have one or both of those at their disposal, the chances of them coming out of any confrontation with a bigger person, no matter how well formally trained, are poor indeed.
I think I already covered this. It's not an auto win for the big guy, but he certainly has an advantage.
The bigger they are, the harder they fall. If you can get them off balance, you can win, and that is a fact. Getting them off balance is very difficult however.
The only thing I'm disputing about your arguement is the "only way." There definitely are more ways than that, but, it might not be likely that the smaller person will think of them at the time of the fight.
JAY BEE
04-26-2005, 06:04 PM
it's not really that hard knocking a big person off balance. their legs are the weakest spots. all you have to do is dropkick the dude in the kneecap and BAM, he's incapable of standing.
believe me, i've actually been in a real fight and it ain't pretty. some huge guy like 6'6" 250lbs was kicking around some kid and i ran from behind him and swept his legs. he fell backwards and landed reaally hard and couldn't get up. well, afterward i did kick him in the crotch and hammer punch him in the solar plexus so he was thoroughly spent =/. thank god a nearby storeowner called the police and the guy got arrested for child abuse.
anyway when fighting someone much taller and heavier than you, go for the person's legs and avoid their arms. also generally speaking because you are smaller you are much more agile and balanced. hit the opp as fast as possible in the "illegal" zones usually forbidden in tournament martial arts. go for the crotch, the pressure points, kidneys, the back of the neck, and the knees. also kicks are better against larger more "built" opponents since your legs can dish out the most damage.
Charninja
04-26-2005, 08:46 PM
it's not really that hard knocking a big person off balance. their legs are the weakest spots. all you have to do is dropkick the dude in the kneecap and BAM, he's incapable of standing.
believe me, i've actually been in a real fight and it ain't pretty. some huge guy like 6'6" 250lbs was kicking around some kid and i ran from behind him and swept his legs. he fell backwards and landed reaally hard and couldn't get up. well, afterward i did kick him in the crotch and hammer punch him in the solar plexus so he was thoroughly spent =/. thank god a nearby storeowner called the police and the guy got arrested for child abuse.
anyway when fighting someone much taller and heavier than you, go for the person's legs and avoid their arms. also generally speaking because you are smaller you are much more agile and balanced. hit the opp as fast as possible in the "illegal" zones usually forbidden in tournament martial arts. go for the crotch, the pressure points, kidneys, the back of the neck, and the knees. also kicks are better against larger more "built" opponents since your legs can dish out the most damage.
Lol, they didn't know how to fight then. It is NOT hard to fight back, even if you do get knocked down. In some cases, you actually get a slight advantage, because your legs and arms are in a primo position to hit the groin or shins. Besides, if they jump or dodge that sweep kick (which is not hard at all) you're screwed, because now you have a larger person that could very easily flatten you with their body weight alone, or just jump back further so they can fully take the situation in.
Balance is a tricky thing. Yes, losing it does present a slight difficulty, but unless your opponent immediately goes into a grapple (which is difficult, considering the postion they just put themselves into to perform the sweep kick to begin with), you can jump back up quickly enough to avoid any further attacks. Of course, if you hit your head hard enough in the fall, your chances of coming out victorious just got cut by half.
One other thing before I go: Sure, you can hit them in the groin or solar plexus to bring them to their knees... but whats to stop them from doing the same thing? They can (easily) overpower you in a parry, and I'm just as capable as grabbing a punch in mid throw and snapping that arm in two as you or anyone else is.
JAY BEE
04-27-2005, 01:14 AM
Lol, they didn't know how to fight then. It is NOT hard to fight back, even if you do get knocked down. In some cases, you actually get a slight advantage, because your legs and arms are in a primo position to hit the groin or shins. Besides, if they jump or dodge that sweep kick (which is not hard at all) you're screwed, because now you have a larger person that could very easily flatten you with their body weight alone, or just jump back further so they can fully take the situation in.
Balance is a tricky thing. Yes, losing it does present a slight difficulty, but unless your opponent immediately goes into a grapple (which is difficult, considering the postion they just put themselves into to perform the sweep kick to begin with), you can jump back up quickly enough to avoid any further attacks. Of course, if you hit your head hard enough in the fall, your chances of coming out victorious just got cut by half.
One other thing before I go: Sure, you can hit them in the groin or solar plexus to bring them to their knees... but whats to stop them from doing the same thing? They can (easily) overpower you in a parry, and I'm just as capable as grabbing a punch in mid throw and snapping that arm in two as you or anyone else is.
first of all, the guy didn't know i was behind him until it was too late. i used a streetfighting move that let me take out his legs and throw him backwards without knocking myself off balance. yeah the guy hit his head on the sidewalk when he fell, plus if you ever get hit full-force in the groin and solar plexus back-to-back you will NOT be continuing the fight no matter who you are. i did those moves immediately with incredible speed, he didn't even know what happened.
secondly, almost nobody can just snap people's arm/legs. you need to know the right technique and it takes a lot of skill to do it quick enough so it can't be countered.
3rd, people who are more trained will almost always win the fight, even if the opponent is much bigger. skill is more of a factor than size ever could be. the only time size is a ~real~ factor is if either a) the opp is 2' taller and like 200lbs heavier, or b) if you're in wrestling class and you can only use grappling moves.
speed(reflexes), technique, flexibility, and experience determine who wins. you can be the most built man on planet earth but i can kick you in the throat and kill you before you finish saying how easy it'll be for you.
Charninja
04-27-2005, 07:36 AM
you can be the most built man on planet earth but i can kick you in the throat and kill you before you finish saying how easy it'll be for you.
Care to test that theory?
You didn't win because you were better trained; you won because you caught him completely off gaurd and got in a lucky hit. Try that on someone who knows what's happening.
JAY BEE
04-27-2005, 12:03 PM
Care to test that theory?
You didn't win because you were better trained; you won because you caught him completely off gaurd and got in a lucky hit. Try that on someone who knows what's happening.
you really don't know much about this subject, seriously. you think just because a person is huge means he can't lose? pffft. if all that guy knows how to do is punch and choke you out (just the basics), he has a huge disadvantage against someone who knows exactly how to hurt a person; even if he is half the other guy's size. if i'm half somone's size and i know all the pressure points, i can put the guy out of his misery reaally fast. you really don't understand how knowledge of certain things can make even a small child a killing machine. i've been in advanced aikido classes and i've seen 60 year-old grandmas literally own 30 year-old men. they were much more trained, obviously. you can EASILY turn your opp's strength against them if you know what you're doing.
advanced knowledge of martial arts is much, much more important than size and strength. why do you think bruce lee was the best in the world? i'd be much more scared of fighting bruce lee than i'd be of fighting hulk hogan. and you can bet bruce lee could've kicked the crap out of hogan.
Charninja
04-27-2005, 03:48 PM
Stupid assumptions like that are the leading cause of asskickery in the world.
Big guys take martial arts classes to. Big guys participate in street fights just as much as little guys, and usually more so. Your failure to realize this proves that it is YOU who has no idea what they are talking about.
You are not Hiei. You are not Kenshin Himura. You are not Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, or any of those other Hollywood types. So put your money where your mouth is, and kick MY ass, or shut your mouth before I go and kick yours.
And if that does happen to be your choice... could you spot me for plane tickets? I'm poor, so sue me.
JAY BEE
04-27-2005, 10:27 PM
Stupid assumptions like that are the leading cause of asskickery in the world.
Big guys take martial arts classes to. Big guys participate in street fights just as much as little guys, and usually more so. Your failure to realize this proves that it is YOU who has no idea what they are talking about.
You are not Hiei. You are not Kenshin Himura. You are not Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, or any of those other Hollywood types. So put your money where your mouth is, and kick MY ass, or shut your mouth before I go and kick yours.
And if that does happen to be your choice... could you spot me for plane tickets? I'm poor, so sue me.
dude, the ENTIRE arguement was whether a trained man of small stature could beat an untrained man of large stature. ~obviously~ if both men were equally trained the larger man would win.
HOWEVER if the smaller man is much more trained than the bigger man, the smaller man should win.
but this doesn't apply if say, you're 7 years old and 4' and your opp is 30 years old and 7', obv~. the difference is just TOO much.
the point was that a difference in skill is more important than a difference in size. whoever has more experience and more training has the advantage.
p.s., don't threaten me, because i sure didn't threaten you. you're acting like a baby.
I always wondered how they got them, anyway. They'd have had to start at five or something, and the average 5 year old is nowhere NEAR disciplined enough to remember all the forms and moves to get that far that quickly. It simply defies logic in every way.
Yeah, even in languages the young children learn more easily than older people. This is why it is good to have a fresh start when you are very young at an age because usually they can digest knowledge and information more easily than older people. I take Tae Kwon Do and I passed with flying colors. My master was impressed at my forms and during testing to achieve an upper belt I pwn everyone because I have good academic grades in school. Really the place where I go to Tae Kwon Do they really take academic skills too as part of their testing. I also learned how to basically street fight as in anything goes. I taught myself how to use a blade and a staff too. I can do the splits and can kick very high because I am that flexible. :confused: I am a guy, so get out of my lunchbox, but I can kick over my head, which is hard for others and I invented another kick, which I call a tornado kick.
To do the tornado kick:
Lift one leg up and twist your body
With this momentum jump
now with your other foot kick
I can't really explain, but it looks awesome when you try to impress friends and is also very effective both defensive and offensive. Try it yourself.
Dark Necrophia
04-27-2005, 11:53 PM
Practiced Shotokan Karate for about 5 and a half years... got my black belt after about the first 5 years... then trained for about 6 months going 4 nights a week as a black belt... when I realized that they were not teaching me the stuff I needed to advance quickly enough for me to get any further, I quit. I had already had adequate training anyway...
Dr. Blaine
04-28-2005, 07:10 AM
I know Kung-Fu!
I'm sure someone was bound to say it sometime.
You may all beat me up now. Just no killing.
Charninja
04-28-2005, 07:40 AM
p.s., don't threaten me, because i sure didn't threaten you. you're acting like a baby.
I'm not threatening you; I'm demanding that you prove your theory under scientific conditions. If you have someone else in mind to fight, go ahead, I just want to know how well trained they are as well. Oh, and it needs to be taped as well. It isn't that I don't trust you... but... well... yeah, it is that I don't trust you.
Dark_Paladin_Girl
05-08-2005, 08:53 AM
Wow....you people are...just...wow...just put the friggin' arguement to rest already....who cares who can beat who....if you are sure of your abilities then so be it....you don't need to carry on this arguement...you're acting like babies..
Anyways...I have never taken a lesson of any form of martial arts in my life (i'm 16) I'm mainly self-taught...I learned different moves from everywhere....I mainly do streetfighting, though. I've never been in a true fight but have had lots and lots of sparring sessions. I spar with my boyfriend, friends, and my father. My dad taught me quite a few take down moves. I can use weapons...Bo staff 5', katana, sais, nanchucks...i'm rather dangerous with my fists and feet...I don't prefer weapons...i'd rather use my body. I'm flexable, can do gymnastics, and i'm pretty fast. So yeah...that's me.
Shaggy Dog
05-08-2005, 03:10 PM
and I invented another kick, which I call a tornado kick.
To do the tornado kick:
Lift one leg up and twist your body
With this momentum jump
now with your other foot kick
I can't really explain, but it looks awesome when you try to impress friends and is also very effective both defensive and offensive. Try it yourself.
yeah, you see you didn't quite invent that one. thats a move we at my dojo teach to yellow belts.
MartialArtsFreak
05-08-2005, 05:40 PM
Yeah, you definetly didn't invent that one. Also, its not effective AT ALL. It's total garbage that doesn't help you at all. I swear to god I would laugh my ass off if anyone tried to do that to me because if it was actually fast, I could just step back while you twist through the air, and if someone did it slow without much power, all I have to do is stick my arm out, break your spin, and you'd land flat on your face. Half of you people here don't know anything about true martial arts and true fighting. In a real fight you want to keep your body in almost completely facing your opponent, not to the side like many matial arts schools teach.
Keeping your body facing your oponent gives you strong kicks, helps you from being taken down by sweeps or one leg takedowns, and it keeps the back of your head out of your oponents reach. Also, jump kicks should never be used. The minute you leave the ground your oponent has the advantage. Also, never ever turn your back to your oponent. All your kicks should be low, nothing above the floating ribs. People tend to punch and kick any part of the body, you have to learn to hit vital points, otherwise your attacks will be less damaging.
Taking a stand up martial art isn't enough. You also need to take one that teaches groundfighting, like BJJ. Most real fights end up on the ground. Yeah...so thats all I can think of to say right now....I'll post more when I think of it though.
Charninja
05-08-2005, 07:56 PM
Finally, somebody who is actually worthy of their login. Don't see those very often.
MartialArtsFreak
05-08-2005, 08:33 PM
Thanks Charninja.
I have more to say on the vital points subject. Not only should your strikes and kicks be devoted to the bodies vital areas, but blocks should as well. You need to learn the pressure points along the arms and legs and try and aim your blocks for those points. However, blocking should be a last resort. You almost always want to try and dodge your oponents attack. Dodging will cause them to lose their balance, especially if they are inexperienced, leaving them wide open for counter attack. Block only when it is absolutely necessary. You need to be careful how you attack your opponent as well. Many people don't know that there is a high risk of breaking your hand when you punch your opponent in the face. This is one reason conditioning is important. Knuckle hindu pushups, give them a try, I bet they'll kill you at first, but you have to get your knuckles hard. Do alot of work on a heavy bag as well. It's also VERY important that you condition your shins. You don't want this to happen to you do you?
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/kickbreak.mpeg
Kick a heavy bag with your shins almost every day, get them tough. After a while of doing that, when you're sparring, don't wear shin pads. Some people even go as far as using a rolling pin on their shins, this however can be damaging when you're older.
It's late, I'm going to bed, I'll post more tips tomorrow.
Pharoh Atem
05-08-2005, 09:29 PM
I've been taking Tae Kwon Do for almost 3 years. I'm now a Red Belt.
Here's the order for my dojo's belts:
1. White
2. Orange
3. Yellow
4. Green
5. Blue
6. Purple
7. 2nd Purple
8. Red
9. 2nd Red
10. Cho Dan Bo(Red+Black and is worn for two belts.)
11. Black
buu11235
05-09-2005, 01:44 PM
thanx for the vid martialartsfreak, now i'm gonna take your advice and kick a heavy bag with my shin
O_Master
05-09-2005, 08:47 PM
Keeping your body facing your oponent gives you strong kicks, helps you from being taken down by sweeps or one leg takedowns, and it keeps the back of your head out of your oponents reach.
I've heard too many people say your side to your opponent is much more efficient for your self during a fight. I find this to be rather true since in my fighting experiences, I can get the quick and unexpected jabs in with my left, and power hits that can't be easily spotted with my superior right. I find this quite effective, and damaging on your opponent. Body facing your opponent leaves you vulnerable to massive chest/gut hit, which could you bring you down very quick. Although I find one terrible, terrible weakness in the side-to-side strategy. A kick to the leg. When standing to your side, a kick to your leg could snap it on impact, or cause serious pain immediately throughout your leg. Each has their flaws, I guess.
O_Master
JAY BEE
05-09-2005, 09:27 PM
yeah exactly, vital areas and pressure points are what you aim for to hit and protect. that's what i was talking about earlier.
i do knuckle pushups to stengthen my knuckles obv~, and if i don't i could really hurt my hand if i were to punch someone in the head. i have one of those wooden training apparatuses with multiple "limbs" sticking out, and it swings around. you hit one "limb" and it swings and can smack you if you don't react and block fast enough. it's great to practice combos and such.
as for stances IMO the best stance to use is bruce lee's jeet kun do stance. you aren't facing your opp and neither do you have your side to him. it's
in-between. you can do a wide variety of moves easily and while in stance you have natural defenses against leg and crotch attacks. a very good stance even in streetfighting. notice that bruce lee's fighting method was meant to be integrated for IRL.
i'd also like to recommend a book: kill-as-catch-can. it's great for learning streetfighting and ground moves. excellent for real-life situations.
ORACLEPAGER1029
05-10-2005, 01:22 PM
Orange belt in Tae Kwon Do
MartialArtsFreak
05-10-2005, 01:43 PM
Yes, I believe I said that the stance to use is not completely facing forward nor is it facing to the side. What I forgot to mention, is when you move in close to the oponent, for punches or elbows, that is when you SHOULD turn your body to the side, but when you're in kicking range, keep it more so towards the front. Watch some good UFC fights, you'll see what I mean.
O_Master
05-10-2005, 02:51 PM
Well, my advice is for people to take up boxing classes. Boxing will help you take out mostly any street fight opponent, as it gives you good speed, quick and powerful hits, along with awareness and agility. Not only that, but it's fun. Although if need be, choke your opponent and don't stop till he is in full need of air. This, however, is only because you want to protect yourself from the cruel punishments that you will receive from the law if he passes out or any other serious thing like that.
When fighting, kicks to the face/head shouldn't be attempted, with the rare exception that anyone reading this is quick and accurate enough to land a kick right in its spot before the opponent notices. Keep in mind this requires great talent, something you probably don't have.
"Dirty fighting" isn't advised. Hitting your opponent in the genitals may win you the fight, but I can guarantee you will be insulted and laughed at by your fellow peers. However, I do advise a swift and unexpected kick to the side of the knee, since it will cause them to immediately plummet, allowing you to take advantage of their extremely vulnerable position. Be sure not to kick too hard, as if this happens, you'll break their leg. And as a result of this, you'll be in some big trouble.
My best advice for a sudden street fight is fists. Forget feet completely, unless totally necessary. With fists, assuming your body is at its perfect angle facing your opponent, you can easily get jabs in, along with power hits. This works great.
Weapons? Kind of cowardly, but once again, very handy if necessary. I don't advise it, but perhaps keep it with you as a backup plan.
And if your quick enough, grab your opponents arm and twist it to an awkward position so he or she must turn in that position, leaving their back to your face. This, my friend, is the end of the fight.
O_Master
JAY BEE
05-10-2005, 05:56 PM
even better than boxing is muy tai kickboxing.
learning to use your legs as good as your arms is very beneficial in fighting, since legs are 3 times stronger than arms and kicks are 3 times more powerful than punches. it's just that most people aren't trained enough to be able to kick accurately and quickly which is essential. but with high enough skill you can be quite dangerous with your legs IRL. yes, even against a built guy in a dark alley.
O_Master
05-10-2005, 08:10 PM
even better than boxing is muy tai kickboxing.
learning to use your legs as good as your arms is very beneficial in fighting, since legs are 3 times stronger than arms and kicks are 3 times more powerful than punches. it's just that most people aren't trained enough to be able to kick accurately and quickly which is essential. but with high enough skill you can be quite dangerous with your legs IRL. yes, even against a built guy in a dark alley.
You can get your hit off faster with punching, rather than kicking.
And, a built guy in a dark alley is most definitely carrying some sort of weapon or other, so all your training wouldn't mean anything...
O_Master
tyckspoon
05-10-2005, 11:18 PM
"Dirty fighting" isn't advised. Hitting your opponent in the genitals may win you the fight, but I can guarantee you will be insulted and laughed at by your fellow peers.
Except the point of a fight isn't to do it with style, impress judges, or awe the audience. The point is to make the other guy stop trying to fight as quickly as possible with as little damage to yourself as possible. If dirty fighting is your best means of achieving that, then I don't see why you shouldn't do it. Sportsmanship is for people who have the luxury of knowing their opponent isn't really trying to hurt them either.
Divine Entity
05-11-2005, 04:58 AM
Except the point of a fight isn't to do it with style, impress judges, or awe the audience. The point is to make the other guy stop trying to fight as quickly as possible with as little damage to yourself as possible. If dirty fighting is your best means of achieving that, then I don't see why you shouldn't do it. Sportsmanship is for people who have the luxury of knowing their opponent isn't really trying to hurt them either.
Sportsmanship is only used in martial arts tournaments. It's a way of showing respect. Out on the street, by all means neccessary, KILL oyur oppenent if that's what it comes down to. Martial arts is about self-defense so don't go looking for fights acting like you know something. Agility and strength will never beat age and expierience.
Back to the topic. It is true that martial arts is a way to make your oppenent incapable of fighting but why not give yourself a challenge rather than just breaking his balls and walking away. Sounds kinda cheap to me. Instead, use what you've learned. It's the perfect time to sharpen your skills and loosen up those joints. (chances are you plan on loosining his a little more)
Anyway, use martial arts for what you want to use it for because in the end, there's always someone better than you just waiting to kick your butt.
Machinefreak
05-12-2005, 10:40 AM
i took tae kwon do for two and a half years. i made it to a redbelt.
O_Master
05-12-2005, 02:48 PM
Except the point of a fight isn't to do it with style, impress judges, or awe the audience. The point is to make the other guy stop trying to fight as quickly as possible with as little damage to yourself as possible. If dirty fighting is your best means of achieving that, then I don't see why you shouldn't do it. Sportsmanship is for people who have the luxury of knowing their opponent isn't really trying to hurt them either.
I don't know what kinds of fights you are thinking about, but most often, a fight is because some guy in school said something to another guy, starting a fight. These fights shouldn't be that serious, and the long term effect of dirty fighting will humiliate you and give you an embarrassing name. In the event that it is a dangerous fight, then do whatever is necessary as long as your not crossing the limits.
O_Master
JAY BEE
05-12-2005, 11:08 PM
You can get your hit off faster with punching, rather than kicking.
And, a built guy in a dark alley is most definitely carrying some sort of weapon or other, so all your training wouldn't mean anything...
O_Master
punching is faster but kicking gives you much more reach. it's a lot harder than you think actually catching someone's leg when he's side-kicking you in your ribs. if he hits square on, your ribs can break easily and you lose. also it's possible to be as fast with your feet as your hands. it just takes tons of training.
well ya, if running into a sinister built guy in a dark alley i'd whoop out my gat an' pop a cap...LOL.
but unless he's actually aiming a gun at you, his weapon means squat. you can disarm him. there's training for fighting armed opponents you know.
Lord of Hades
05-13-2005, 01:22 AM
I took three months of Tae Kwon Do, and a little Tai Chi. I want to learn Chinese Long Sword, because the motions look more fluid than Japanese sword styles (which has an emphasis on power).
I have taken Kendo for as long as I can remember, even beating the moron who had the nerve to call himself a Sensei (teacher).
Put shortly, he literally stabbed me iin the back with a shinai during practice, so I knocked him out cold with a single hit to the collar bone. Reverse spinning vertical to the collarbone to be exact.
But anyway, a friend of mine got in an argument with me over who would win. A samurai using a katana, or a Tai-Chi student with the long sword.
Long story short, I picked up my bokken, and he took his wooden replica, which I broke, and I beat him in my back yard.
Good times. :D
Oh, and martial arts ARE a way to kill. All are or are based of of some means of killing your opponent. Saying that they are for self defense is just a pretty lie, and in the word of the ronin that made me want to learn kendo, I much prefer the pretty lie over the bloody truth, that I do. :D
A punch and kick can break bones, rupture organs, and crack skulls. A sword can pierce the heart, or maim the limbs, and that is their true purpose. To kill.
Self defense only entitles KOing an attacker with as little force as neccessary.
Killing entitles using even less force to make sure they never get up again.
Also, disarming your opponent is a key factor in many styles.
If he tries to stab you, move to the side and dislocate his elbow.
If he tries to shoot you, run like hell. =)
tyckspoon
05-13-2005, 12:40 PM
I don't know what kinds of fights you are thinking about, but most often, a fight is because some guy in school said something to another guy, starting a fight. These fights shouldn't be that serious, and the long term effect of dirty fighting will humiliate you and give you an embarrassing name. In the event that it is a dangerous fight, then do whatever is necessary as long as your not crossing the limits.
You know a more hot-headed bunch of people than I do, then. Among the people I associate with, the result of some guy saying something to another guy is a response in kind, not a physical assault.
I have taken Kendo for as long as I can remember, even beating the moron who had the nerve to call himself a Sensei (teacher). Put shortly, he literally stabbed me iin the back with a shinai during practice, so I knocked him out cold with a single hit to the collar bone.
I kinda hate to disillusion you, but he won. In a real-arms fight, he scored a disabling hit before you.
Lord of Hades
05-13-2005, 04:32 PM
I kinda hate to disillusion you, but he won. In a real-arms fight, he scored a disabling hit before you.
That was kendo. Had it been with an actual katana, he would've killed me. If he were a samurai and it was way back when, he'd have had to commit Seppuku. Attacking someone from behind is almost the most dishonorable thing you could do. Also, if we were using real swords I wouldn't have messed around (I showboat alot.), I would've just killed him.
Heero Yuy
05-14-2005, 07:28 PM
I take a stlye called Shalin Kempo and Karate, our studio is called Villaris
Lord of Hades
05-14-2005, 11:38 PM
Anyway, whats everyones favorite move? Weapon or hand to hand, doesn't matter.
Mines the classic killing move with a katana. I forgot what it's called, I've done too many different forms of Martial Arts, but anyway. You start in the standard posistion, e.g. Hilt of the Katana around your midsection, blade pointing vertically. I'm a lefty so bear that in mind too. Drop your left hand down, and pull with right, to the left side of your body, andslide your left foot backwards. Use the momentum to spin yourself around on your left foot, and arc the blade from pointing at the ground to over your shoulder. Slam your right foot down, and as you do this, transfer into a vertical slash, slightly bent, from your right shoulder across to your left hip. This transfers all the centrifugal force into to the base of the blade. As you swing, push forward with your left hand, and pull back withyour right, like you should be anyway. :D The force of the spin is then drawn across the blade, and you'll want to connect about part way along the blade, at your opponents left collar bone. I've broken 13 collar bones with a shinai, in armor, with that technique to date.
Hand to Hand: I forgot which style (Tae Kwon Do maybe?), seeing as how I stated earlier, they kind of blend togerther after a while. You need to be reasonably flexible (and you should be). Anyway, its a basic cross kick, aimed at the side of the head. As you cross their face, bring your foot past their body and down, and then simply hit their knees with your heel. If you miss, your screwed, since you loose all balance, but if you hit, it's all good.
I combined this with the spining slash, a few roundhouse kicks, and the jumping spin slash, as I call it, which I wont even try to explain. Thats how I broke my friends wooden Tai Chi sword with my bokken. My personal style of Kenjutsu uttilizes centrifugal force to the extreme, and just about every move can be linked with some sort of spin that adds more power. It's a double eged sword though, because I get so dizzy after a few minutes that I pass out. Its fun, and flashy, and effective though.
Heero Yuy
05-15-2005, 07:33 AM
Anyway, whats everyones favorite move? Weapon or hand to hand, doesn't matter.
Mines the classic killing move with a katana. I forgot what it's called, I've done too many different forms of Martial Arts, but anyway. You start in the standard posistion, e.g. Hilt of the Katana around your midsection, blade pointing vertically. I'm a lefty so bear that in mind too. Drop your left hand down, and pull with right, to the left side of your body, andslide your left foot backwards. Use the momentum to spin yourself around on your left foot, and arc the blade from pointing at the ground to over your shoulder. Slam your right foot down, and as you do this, transfer into a vertical slash, slightly bent, from your right shoulder across to your left hip. This transfers all the centrifugal force into to the base of the blade. As you swing, push forward with your left hand, and pull back withyour right, like you should be anyway. :D The force of the spin is then drawn across the blade, and you'll want to connect about part way along the blade, at your opponents left collar bone. I've broken 13 collar bones with a shinai, in armor, with that technique to date.
Hand to Hand: I forgot which style (Tae Kwon Do maybe?), seeing as how I stated earlier, they kind of blend togerther after a while. You need to be reasonably flexible (and you should be). Anyway, its a basic cross kick, aimed at the side of the head. As you cross their face, bring your foot past their body and down, and then simply hit their knees with your heel. If you miss, your screwed, since you loose all balance, but if you hit, it's all good.
I combined this with the spining slash, a few roundhouse kicks, and the jumping spin slash, as I call it, which I wont even try to explain. Thats how I broke my friends wooden Tai Chi sword with my bokken. My personal style of Kenjutsu uttilizes centrifugal force to the extreme, and just about every move can be linked with some sort of spin that adds more power. It's a double eged sword though, because I get so dizzy after a few minutes that I pass out. Its fun, and flashy, and effective though.
Favorite Move ~ I dont know the actualy term for them, so I'll do my best lol. My favorite moves are actualy more of relaxed blocking. Keepng your arms loose and heavy, quite effective. When your lose and heavy you can end up hurting your opponet, or sparing partner w/e lol.
Weapon ~ Short Shord, Katana, I just love it in general. Now favorite move, just love them all.
Moves Hand To Hand ~ Grappling, I'm really good at grappling so I'll try to get into more of that while going hand to hand, but if I can I'm just as good fist to fist.
JAY BEE
05-17-2005, 01:24 AM
favorite move:
forward cartwheel heel hammer strike
you jump and flip forwards like a somersult, but with legs open like a cartwheel. one leg touches ground first, then your kicking leg comes down and smashes its heel down onto the top of your opponent's head. if done properly you can smash your opponent's brains out. this is one of the most powerful moves you can do.
but never attempt that without training in arial moves or experience in gymnastics. you have to be able to jump high and be quite flexible.
i also like punching/kicking in the neck. i always aim for the neck instead of the face since hitting in the neck will kill your opp, rather if you hit them in the face he'd just be stunned. if a fight is serious, then i'm serious about winning.
Ryo_Marufuji
05-17-2005, 01:43 AM
i have taken...
Kung Fu for a long long time since i was 4 untill i was 14
and i pretty much mastered it (not trying to brag just saying that i had quite a few teachers)
i am very good at gymnastics which helps alot...
i have taken Tae kwon do, but found it too boring and slow for my taste
i also took chinese swordfighting for about a year, and fencing for a year, and also weapons traingin from my fathers friend who works in the military...
so i guess you could say i am a one man wrecking crew... hehe
~Kaiser~
Charninja
05-17-2005, 08:39 AM
Lol, I remember a story I heard recently, about when my father was stationed in Asia. He was talking to some monks or something, real martial artist types, you know what I mean, and the conversation eventually turned to, of course, martial arts. Then, one of them said something rather... interesting.
"When seeking inner peace and tranquility, practice Tai-Chi.
When seeking strength and resilience, practice Kung-Fu.
When seeking to beat someone to a pulp, practice American Boxing."
ReturnOfStarterDecks
05-17-2005, 02:40 PM
Lol, I remember a story I heard recently, about when my father was stationed in Asia. He was talking to some monks or something, real martial artist types, you know what I mean, and the conversation eventually turned to, of course, martial arts. Then, one of them said something rather... interesting.
"When seeking inner peace and tranquility, practice Tai-Chi.
When seeking strength and resilience, practice Kung-Fu.
When seeking to beat someone to a pulp, practice American Boxing."
That is so hilarious. Lol.
I peronally have never taken karate of any sort, but I may start in the fall after I come back from my vacation
simpsonshorts
05-17-2005, 05:32 PM
I'm in Tae Kwon Do and I'm a second degree brown belt. The rankings go as follows:
1. White
2. Yellow
3. Orange
4. Green
5. Purple
6. Blue
7. Brown
8. Second Degree Brown
9. Red
10. Second Degree Red
11. Black
P.S. I HATE kids who get black belts when they're like 10. They're just not mature enough. :mad:
me neither I only reached yellow cause....
IM A FRIGGIN QUITTER!! :D
bigdevilyogi
05-18-2005, 12:54 PM
I took shoto kahn for a while, just got to orange though.
Machinefreak
05-19-2005, 06:19 AM
I took shoto kahn for a while, just got to orange though.
Ok Sub-Zero......so what style are you going to learn next? Dragon style by any chance? Just wondering if you're gonna buy a Kori Blade to match.
I took shoto kahn for a while, just got to orange though.
Hmm... I remembered this from Mortal Kombat. Pretty cool, pretty cool...
Millenium_Master
05-19-2005, 09:01 AM
MK ROX!!! lol....
Be nice MF, just because he knows shoto khan doesn't mean he is a member of the Lin Quei. I on the other hand am a member of the Lin Quei.
Machinefreak
05-19-2005, 11:05 AM
hey greg, i didn't know that you were in the lin queer group or whatever. sean didn't know that you have been taking akido.
Millenium_Master
05-19-2005, 11:44 AM
hey greg, i didn't know that you were in the lin queer group or whatever. sean didn't know that you have been taking akido.
YOU MOTHER (I don't wanna say it)!!!!! You need to pick on people that have your same mental capabilities.... Let's say...... Bacteria.....
JAY BEE
05-19-2005, 05:58 PM
well hey those martial arts styles in MK are indeed real.
except most of them you won't be able to learn in the YMCA...
VermillionSL
05-19-2005, 07:34 PM
I tooked:
1 year Pa Kua Chuan
6 months Tai Chi Chuan
6 months Yoga (kinda more for meditation than fighting, but really none of this is to fight with)
2 weeks Tae Kwon Do
no offense to anybody who likes tae kwon do, but god damn that shiz is boring. We did the same crap every day. so i left (i was on some trial period thingy). They didn't even bother to make it interseting to try to keep me. Pa Kua was the shizzle, though. I had no idea i could break a person's arm in so many different ways... So that's my favorite style ever. I thought about taking Shaolin at this place in chinatown that is owned by a Shaolin master from the temple in China, but wow I'm not shaving my head. I had the longest Queue when i still practiced (absorbed the impact of screwy falls), and i didn't wanna cut it off.
MercenaryBDU
05-19-2005, 09:26 PM
I do bushido and shadow boxing for martial arts including memoery lapsing for them type of excercises. SOunds strange but it works well.
Millenium_Master
05-20-2005, 01:08 PM
hey greg, i didn't know that you were in the lin queer group or whatever. sean didn't know that you have been taking akido.
Yes... I am taking Akido... Well... Self-Teaching.... but I am learning it nonetheless...
Blankauctions
05-20-2005, 01:14 PM
I really should have taken more... but i gave up. I was to frickin lazy ^_^
Tae Kwon Do - 1 week ^_^
Linzoy
05-20-2005, 09:04 PM
I've been thinking about doing fencing again this year.
Now I actually am doing fencing. My next lesson is tomarrow, I'm going even though I've been home sick the whole week. People have told me I have a good instinct for it, and I hit the teacher once.
On the outside it looks like all fencers do is poke each other, but it's a lot more tiring than it looks like. Your feet have to move around a lot and you get tired quickly. It's also a lot more fun than it looks like from the outside though.
Gameron
05-20-2005, 11:01 PM
My Favorite weapon would be the Gladius, A Very effective short range weapon. The trick is to get in close and go for the Upper Body.
Millenium_Master
05-21-2005, 09:00 PM
my favorite weapon would have to be a sniper rifle... lol...
as for meele weapons... I can't stand them.... I did take Katana lessons from my dad about a year ago...
VermillionSL
05-22-2005, 05:37 PM
I took fencing in Gym class for two years to get out of basketball (I hate physical activity). Anyways, i don't think you should consider it a martial art on the basis that it's so two dimensional. No one outside of an SNK or Capcom fighter fights on a 2D strip in real life. And there's no art to it unless you have a Hot (Femme) Swedish-nurse type instructor, and you totally get in her pants. And you film it in black and white and give it a french title. Also, a weapon is a pretty big prereq for you to get your fight on. You should learn something more... unarmed.
The Little Turtle
05-22-2005, 07:25 PM
i am a black belt in something, but i dont remember.
Charninja
05-22-2005, 08:13 PM
i am a black belt in something, but i dont remember.
Ok... sure you are... I believe you.
The Little Turtle
05-23-2005, 02:57 PM
Ok... sure you are... I believe you.
i serious man, but i do have short term memory loss.
__________
05-24-2005, 04:09 PM
TaeKwonDo for 4 years..........1st degree black. Starting Instructing this Summer
ITF TKD- half year. This style sucks.
Mantis kung fu for a bit. Not any formal training, but I hope to start soon.
general grievous
05-25-2005, 05:49 PM
all i have done that deals with martial arts is i have trained with a bow staff.
MartialArtsFreak
05-25-2005, 06:12 PM
Some one's seen Napolean Dynamite a little too much. Also it's spelt Bo.
general grievous
05-25-2005, 06:30 PM
napolion dynamite? so ya gonna sue me for typing wrong?!
Millenium_Master
05-25-2005, 06:34 PM
napolion dynamite? so ya gonna sue me for typing wrong?!
He can't... seing as many people on the boards spell wrong.... It isn't his problem.... And MartialArtsFreak, you don't even know if he has seen that movie... Just because someone uses a bo staff soesn't mean they have seen Napoleon Dynamite too many times.
He can't... seing as many people on the boards spell wrong.... It isn't his problem.... And MartialArtsFreak, you don't even know if he has seen that movie... Just because someone uses a bo staff soesn't mean they have seen Napoleon Dynamite too many times.
True dat, but some weird reason it has become a nation wide virus for quoting stuff from Napoleon Dynamite: such as (look at my SN on top of my avatar even I an intellecutal has caught that virus ah choo), and other stuff like that.
First it was I'm Rick James Bitc# then it was Gosh, Idiot, so what is next?
JAY BEE
05-26-2005, 11:05 PM
i practice with the bo staff and i never saw napoleon dynamite ever. IMO the movie looked really dumb. that ugly monotone kid didn't deserve my $ for his stupid movie.
i practice with the bo staff and i never saw napoleon dynamite ever. IMO the movie looked really dumb. that ugly monotone kid didn't deserve my $ for his stupid movie.
Yeah
It just questions me why people still look forward to watch this dull movie, either. I mean I cannot believe so many people are just quoting the phrases fromthe movie that I ignored until now. Now it is jus tplain annoying though I only like the Gosh, Idiot, but everything else is lame.
I took Tae Kown Do for two years, and I felt this style are ineffective because you kick way too high and some of the kicks are weak. Though through the Tae Kwon Do I learned how to do the splits ( why I do feel special? :p ), kick high and quick, and also learned a whole new meaning of discipline.
Machinefreak
05-27-2005, 06:50 AM
I didn't think that many people took Tae Kwon Do! I took it for a while and made it to a redbelt. I might be signing up again to go back and try to earn a blackbelt. It'll be a lot of work but it's worth it!
Millenium_Master
05-27-2005, 01:43 PM
I didn't think that many people took Tae Kwon Do! I took it for a while and made it to a redbelt. I might be signing up again to go back and try to earn a blackbelt. It'll be a lot of work but it's worth it!
Hurry up and get your black so I can use an entirely defensive style, Akido, to kick your ass....
SuperSayian4
05-27-2005, 01:54 PM
I didn't think that many people took Tae Kwon Do! I took it for a while and made it to a redbelt. I might be signing up again to go back and try to earn a blackbelt. It'll be a lot of work but it's worth it!
I take Tae Kwon Judo. It's a little bit of Judo and Tae Kwon Do.
Millenium_Master
05-27-2005, 06:23 PM
I take Tae Kwon Judo. It's a little bit of Judo and Tae Kwon Do.
Tae Kwon Judo?.... Never heard of it... try something real....
airknight_parshath
05-27-2005, 06:30 PM
You can't get anywhere with martial arts. Wrestling is for the REAL men.
Millenium_Master
05-27-2005, 08:16 PM
You can't get anywhere with martial arts. Wrestling is for the REAL men.
really.... martial arts can save your ass on the street
Machinefreak
05-27-2005, 08:43 PM
first of all Millenium, akido wouldn't stand a chance against my Tae Kwon Do if I was a blackbelt. and wrestling doesn't prove you're a man. Even weak chicks can get on top of each other and throw each other around!
Millenium_Master
05-27-2005, 08:45 PM
first of all Millenium, akido wouldn't stand a chance against my Tae Kwon Do if I was a blackbelt. and wrestling doesn't prove you're a man. Even weak chicks can get on top of each other and throw each other around!
You mean damn hot chicks rolling around in mud, right?
That would be fun....
Machinefreak
05-27-2005, 08:45 PM
by the way that was directed to you Airknight_parshath
Millenium_Master
05-27-2005, 08:55 PM
by the way that was directed to you Airknight_parshath
I know.... and once I get better... I could take you...
yugi-oh
11-26-2005, 06:48 PM
A majority of people say muay thai is the best of the martial arts. Is this true?
meteoraclown
11-26-2005, 07:21 PM
A majority of people say muay thai is the best of the martial arts. Is this true?
no, your question already answered your question... lol sounded wierd.
It's all about personal preference. Some like muay thai, some like tae kwon do, some like judo, some like capiora(sp?)
Senju
11-26-2005, 07:26 PM
Hey, speaking of Martial Arts, did anyone see that Black Belt Karate self-trainer toy for kids??? It has a mat where you position your feet, and it has a punching/kicking bag. It comes with a DVD of instructions too.
This thing looks fun, I saw it on a commercial and in the Toy's R' Us ads. But this thing might just encourage little kids to prance around wearing black belts and thinking they are the toughest guys in the world.
meteoraclown
11-26-2005, 07:46 PM
It's just another way for them to make money.
The kids will think they are tough, go face their bully and get owned. Plus I doubt they would get far while watching it. with the money spent on that, they could go to an actual martial arts dojo and like get a free class and some other things.
z33ler
11-26-2005, 10:18 PM
I did some ti kwon doe or however u spell it, up to a yellow belt. (yellow belt is after white belt, white belt is the 1st belt) im a noob
-z33ler-
Darth Payne
11-26-2005, 11:14 PM
Hey, speaking of Martial Arts, did anyone see that Black Belt Karate self-trainer toy for kids??? It has a mat where you position your feet, and it has a punching/kicking bag. It comes with a DVD of instructions too.
This thing looks fun, I saw it on a commercial and in the Toy's R' Us ads. But this thing might just encourage little kids to prance around wearing black belts and thinking they are the toughest guys in the world.
That's like a serious insult to an ancient art practiced and developed for centuries. Then some American company makes a toy out of it. :p
I was a blue belt in Tae Kwon Do, but I quit. May start again. Later
cocacola
11-26-2005, 11:41 PM
I have a black belt in tae kwan do, and I have been doing it for 7 years. For the past year, I have been training with a man who was once a student of Bruce's students. I have practiced in Jeet Kune Do (which was stopped when I broke my ribs), Brazilian jui-Jitsu, Sambo, boxing, and trapping arts. I have also been training with nunchakas (fun!)
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